They're coming after no fault divorce laws now

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Texas, ND and Nebraska just to name a few.

The war on women rages unending.
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I really wanna know the exact point people decided the march of progress was too much and decided, "screw this, let's turn back."
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Ivynn posted...
I really wanna know the exact point people decided the march of progress was too much and decided, "screw this, let's turn back."

When they decided trying to save 50c on eggs and brown people they'll never meet existing holds far more weight than their own civil liberties and rights.
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Ivynn posted...
I really wanna know the exact point people decided the march of progress was too much and decided, "screw this, let's turn back."
Literally every social advancement in human history.

If you're talking when it really started to gain traction, 2008.

Electing a black man absolutely broke something in conservatives' minds.
Doesn't take a lot of brains to be a good fighter.
Now? Hasn't that been ongoing for a bit?

Still sucks though :/
Why not go all in?
Wife and I already decided if this happens well get divorced. Still live together.
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Ivynn posted...
I really wanna know the exact point people decided the march of progress was too much and decided, "screw this, let's turn back."

They never wanted the progress in the first place.

Texas in particular has been going after no fault divorce for years.

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KiwiTerraRizing posted...
Wife and I already decided if this happens well get divorced. Still live together.

thats probably a really bad idea.
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I admit Ibe been forgetting this and remembered it this morning. Holy shit imagine living in a world where women cant get a divorce.

I also want to say that this would turn women against the GOP, despite also thinking that for abortion. The problem is married and abused women still vote so who knows whatll happen with that.
KiwiTerraRizing posted...
Wife and I already decided if this happens well get divorced. Still live together.
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KiwiTerraRizing posted...
Wife and I already decided if this happens well get divorced. Still live together.

Why tho
LearntoRead posted...
I also want to say that this would turn women against the GOP, despite also thinking that for abortion. The problem is married and abused women still vote so who knows whatll happen with that.
Even worse, with more people getting mail-in ballots, there's also the real possibility that their husbands will dictate and hover over their shoulders to make sure they're voting the "right" way, if not outright fill out the ballots themselves.
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Even worse, with more people getting mail-in ballots, there's also the real possibility that their husbands will dictate and hover over their shoulders to make sure they're voting the "right" way, if not outright fill out the ballots themselves.

Yeah we saw an example of this in the previous election.
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Excuse my ignorance, but how is it an attack on just women
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Ivynn posted...
I really wanna know the exact point people decided the march of progress was too much and decided, "screw this, let's turn back."
In the US, 1980 is a pretty clear turning point.
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Dyinglegacy posted...
Excuse my ignorance, but how is it an attack on just women

Women initiate divorce far more than men do. They would be much more negatively affected by this than men.

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Dyinglegacy posted...
Excuse my ignorance, but how is it an attack on just women

Before no-fault divorce women were stuck in abusive marriages they couldn't escape and a lot of them eventually died in.

Like, sure, there's probably a few examples of men you could find the same, however they are exceptions, not the rule. Traditionally marriage in itself has been used to control women and treat them like property, them being unable to escape such marriages is an example of that. Women used to literally be sold to men by their fathers if the dowry was suitable enough.
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KiwiTerraRizing posted...
Women initiate divorce far more than men do. They would be much more negatively affected by this than men.
Why do they initiate more
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Dyinglegacy posted...
Why do they initiate more
Because men are much more likely to be abusive/violent.
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get rid of alimony. Thats some nonsense imo
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Even worse, with more people getting mail-in ballots, there's also the real possibility that their husbands will dictate and hover over their shoulders to make sure they're voting the "right" way, if not outright fill out the ballots themselves.
It could be even worse than that. Because some Republicans have outright said they don't think women should vote. And Trump put a time period to his "Great" America (1890) and it was also before women had voting rights.

Thankfully the SAVE Act didn't pass the house, because that would have screwed over a lot of married women (as well as transgender people).
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Ivynn posted...
I really wanna know the exact point people decided the march of progress was too much and decided, "screw this, let's turn back."

Because they have no plans on getting an abortion or a divorce, so they don't care if they change the laws regarding them.

You gotta laugh. That is the one thing at the end of your life you will not wish you did less of.
The goal is to make women property like they were before WW1.
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Dyinglegacy posted...
get rid of alimony. Thats some nonsense imo

So you're just not going to address any of the responses to you because you don't agree with that assessment or what? The world is not 50/50 on fairness. When John Lennon & Yoko Ono made the song "Woman is the N-word of the World" it was to point out how human history as a collective whole has not been kind to them and spent much of history trying to control them and take away their rights/free will.

Republicans have been saying this not-so-behind-the-scenes for decades, they're just emboldened with the current Christo-fascist USSC and recent electoral victories to bring it to the forefront discussion.

I bet you'd shit your britches in surprise as well if I told you that their anti-abortion stance is also primarily based around controlling women and their bodies.

NoxObscuras posted...
Thankfully the SAVE Act didn't pass the house, because that would have screwed over a lot of married women (as well as transgender people).

Yeah, you can expect that piece of shit to come back around.
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Kradek posted...
So you're just not going to address any of the responses to you because you don't agree with that assessment or what? The world is not 50/50 on fairness. When John Lennon & Yoko Ono made the song "Woman is the N-word of the World" it was to point out how human history as a collective whole has not been kind to them and spent much of history trying to control them and take away their rights/free will.

Republicans have been saying this not-so-behind-the-scenes for decades, they're just emboldened with the current Christo-fascist USSC and recent electoral victories to bring it to the forefront discussion.

I bet you'd shit your britches in surprise as well if I told you that their anti-abortion stance is also primarily based around controlling women and their bodies.

Yeah, you can expect that piece of shit to come back around.

? My questions were answered.
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BlackScythe0 posted...
I don't understand why this is bad?
Try reading the topic next time
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BlackScythe0 posted...
I don't understand why this is bad? I only know the negative connotation that no fault divorce benefits cheaters.

No fault divorce means you can file for a divorce and that's it. No need to prove your spose did anything wrong or have your spouse agree to the seperation.

Without it, people (largely women) can be trapped into abusive marriages
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Marital rape is next on the list after this, First make sure the women can't escape from abusive relationships, then prevent them from being able to get help if they try to say no to their husbands
How will conservatives feel when this just leads to more couples living together without marrying?
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Dyinglegacy posted...
Why do they initiate more

Partly men are more likely to be abusive (physical & financial), but another thing is that there are lazy ass men that cant be bothered to start the process.
Theres like five women in Nebraska. Im not surprised.
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Dyinglegacy posted...
? My questions were answered.

Oh ok, wasn't sure if you were aware of that the way you just didn't at all address/acknowledge it and moved onto something new.

Raiden2909 posted...
Marital rape is next on the list after this, First make sure the women can't escape from abusive relationships, then prevent them from being able to get help if they try to say no to their husbands

Oh absolutely.
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Alimony is fine but only if one of the spouses was a homemaker.
Dyinglegacy posted...
Excuse my ignorance, but how is it an attack on just women
they suffer disproportionately from it

obv it makes it worse for everyone but it's pointedly more harmful to minorities and women
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If you want to invoke no fault divorce, then you at least should have to forfeit alimony. Otherwise, divorce just turns into a way of legally scamming your more successful spouse, & given family courts have an overwhelming preference for women that usually initiate divorce, it's usually going to be the man getting screwed.
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LeTigre posted...
Texas in particular has been going after no fault divorce for years.
Ahhh Texas! The state where a wife is forced to stay with her abusive husband, and who fathered a child with their underage daughter.
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