clair obscur and the lack of a map

Bet people are missing that yellow paint now.

I kinda hope they patch one in. Despite the growing reviews, this is a common touch point that all of them have said.

So I am in the minority that it doesn't need maps? When I reach a new flag, instead of resting, I go back and make sure I didn't miss any route since the last flag. As the enemies stay dead ubtil you rest, it is easy to search and ensure nothing was missed. It isn't hard and it makes the exploration more fun. If you had maps, you would see how simple these areas actually are.

These dungeons are deceptively linear. A lot of "alternate paths" just loop around back to the main path where there's only one direction to go.

So I am in the minority that it doesn't need maps?

Bet people are missing that yellow paint now.

Its in the game via lights is it not?

Its in the game via lights is it not?

I don't think it needs maps either, but having one that you could turn on/off couldn't hurt. It would be good for those who want it.

I love not having a map. Lets you become more intimate with the environment.

I don't think it needs maps either, but having one that you could turn on/off couldn't hurt. It would be good for those who want it.

This is now a Soulsborne "easy" difficultly conversation lol

Until you get lost

idk why cutting quality of life stuff and throwing out general consideration for the player or their time has become this cutting edge statement, like it's daring and avant garde or something. this shit made Outward 150,000% worse

Bet people are missing that yellow paint now.

as if i'm gonna skip everything because i can see where i can go. hello?

the defense for this stuff is always stupid, and always assumes the person against it doesn't like exploring. there's just no good reason for limitations, or the immediate, predictable "figure it out, the complaining is sad" condescension

Wah

I never liked the "Respect the player's time" arguments because it's typically made by people that just want to get through a game/something in a game/etc. as fast as possible and get annoyed by any inconvenience whatsoever.

If you want your time "respected," just follow the lights. They show you the main path to get through.

Respect the players time means "let me pause the fucking game"

really dude? you can't take a single criticism about a game without devolving to this kind of response? act your damn age

I just get tired of the complaints about an artistic choice being considered lack of quality of life or not respecting the player. You don't have to personally like it, but it was not done to piss you off. And this is the same as the argument about Souls games not having difficulty options.

then say that instead of saying "wah," then going back and editing in more As, as if the point wasn't made well enough with just one. strange behavior

i didn't kick your dog. again i reiterate for those who may have missed it, act your age, it's a video game product to be consumed for money. i'm not going into the Louvre saying your favorite painting is shitty.

appreciating the convenience of a map doesn't mean i want my hand held, doesn't mean i want to beat the game as fast as possible and skip everything, doesn't mean i don't enjoy challenge- not that a map has anything to do with challenge anyway. chill out

You might need to chill. I explained and even apologized for my behavior