Super common growing up in gym class starting in 7th grade. Showers were required after gym class and frankly I enjoyed taking one after gym class. Continued in high school and then into the military and it was always pretty common at any type of sports/workout facility. I mean who hasnt really? I dont know maybe it was just more common in my era. Maybe things are different now.I don't in particular remember seeing these prior to joining the Army.
I don't in particular remember seeing these prior to joining the Army.
Though I might have just forgotten. Also, I was never one for PE, swimming or any real physical exertion that would've put me in proximity to one
Where Im from gym/PE was always required and starting in junior high they started making us shower. So the whole I was never one for PE wouldnt apply. You didnt have a choice. And I specifically remember some kids in 6th grade being nervous about having to group shower starting in 7th grade. Also besides gym having been to any YMCA or recreation center these were always the common shower. Any public pools these were the showers. Any gym these were the showers. After sports practices these were the showers. Again maybe Im just out of touch and things are so different now but in my era this was just the normal thing.We had mandatory PE but I just have no memory of being made to shower prior to or after class. Though this was late 00s/early 2010s so requirements may have changed. I also think my high school, at least, had individual shower stalls. Nothing super private but enough to maintain privacy
I mean who hasnt really?Its definitely not common in school anymore in the US.
Its definitely not common in school anymore in the US.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mzItS5BmUNw&pp=ygUKWmVsZGEgZ29vZA%3D%3D
Is it good? The hyper individualism in the States typically isn't a good thing. Now, I'm obviously not saying that individual showers is the cause of hyper individualism but it is a symptom and certainly is a contributing factor.This is reaching bruv.
This is reaching bruv.
Every single day for 3 months with 90 other guys while a man in a funny hat yelled at usMy basic training experience did not include being yelled at in the shower.
Is it good? The hyper individualism in the States typically isn't a good thing. Now, I'm obviously not saying that individual showers is the cause of hyper individualism but it is a symptom and certainly is a contributing factor...... you honestly think this is because we arent having children bathe together in school anymore.....?
Yes, but it was a hell of a lot better than the photo you chose lmaoThats a building I was in earlier today lmao.
..... you honestly think this is because we arent having children bathe together in school anymore.....?
Legit question, are you skimming and not reading whole posts or is your reading comprehension actually this bad? I expressly pointed out how it's far from the only contributing factor and I also didn't phrase it in any sort of way as you have in how you narrow it down to children bathing together in school.Day drinking again?
I absolutely am however stating that one of the many contributing factors is the fact that people are so very much anti-communal bathing. It's both a symptom and a contributing factor.
Course you'll probably just skim this and keep on pretending that I'm saying that individual showers is why the States is so hyper individualistic because that's an absurd enough statement that it's easily dismissed and mocked.
I mean who hasnt really?
Day drinking again?
So are you arguing that what used to be completely normal is now considered weird but only in select countries and just happens to also be countries where people are incredibly individualistic and getting more and more so as time goes on is not actually anything to do with individualism and people shying away from community?Nah man, I think you just care way too much about communal shower experiences.
Legit question, are you skimming and not reading whole posts or is your reading comprehension actually this bad? I expressly pointed out how it's far from the only contributing factor and I also didn't phrase it in any sort of way as you have in how you narrow it down to children bathing together in school.Legit question, did you skim my post? Or is your reading comprehension this bad?
I absolutely am however stating that one of the many contributing factors is the fact that people are so very much anti-communal bathing. It's both a symptom and a contributing factor.
Course you'll probably just skim this and keep on pretending that I'm saying that individual showers is why the States is so hyper individualistic because that's an absurd enough statement that it's easily dismissed and mocked.
Legit question, did you skim my post? Or is your reading comprehension this bad?
What I said last post applies to your entire argument.
Your post was incredibly reductive and frames what I said as suggesting that I'm saying the States is hyper individualistic because we don't have children bathe together any more. So no, I read exactly what you said and am calling it out.Except no, you didnt read exactly what I said. I said i dont care what word you want to use here whether its contributed, caused, whatever.
you disagree then make your case for why finding communal bathing weird and working towards eliminating it isn't at all a symptom and/or a contributing factor.You made the original claim in the first place that it contributed. You prove that it actually contributed.
And see, you're hung up on kids bathing together. That's your framing, not mine. Curious why you jump to that specifically. When I think of communal bathing I think of the gym, I think of the pool, I think of onsens. Why are you hung up on kids?Thats actually your original framing that you are trying to walk back on. The post/user you literally responded to was about children bathing together in school, with you deciding to respond to that user specifically talking about that with how its not a good thing it declined because you believe it contributed to individualism.
I expressly pointed out how it's far from the only contributing factor and I also didn't phrase it in any sort of way as you have in how you narrow it down to children bathing together in school.I notice one thing you didn't point out is how it contributes in any substantive way whatsoever beyond your bizarre speculation.
Except no, you didnt read exactly what I said. I said i dont care what word you want to use here whether its contributed, caused, whatever.
Whether you think it contributed, caused, doesnt matter.... I dont think it was anything to do with it.
You made the original claim in the first place that it contributed. You prove that it actually contributed.
Thats actually your original framing that you are trying to walk back on. The post/user you literally responded to was about children bathing together in school, with you deciding to respond to that user specifically talking about that with how its not a good thing it declined because you believe it contributed to individualism.