A lawsuit disputing the results of the 2024 election has moved forward after it was revealed that former Vice President Kamala Harris received no votes a New York state district.
A seminal case calling the results of the presidential race as well as state senate races into question has advanced. The case refers to the results of the election in Rockland County, New York, with Judge Rachel Tanguay of the New York Supreme Court ruling that a full hand recount must occur following the discovery.
The case's lead plaintiff is SMART Legislation, the action arm of SMART Elections, a non-partisan group that advocates for voting security and voter rights.
"There is clear evidence that the senate results are incorrect, and there are statistical indications that the presidential results are highly unlikely," Lulu Friesdat, founder and executive director of SMART Legislation, said in a statement.
"If the results are incorrect, it is a violation of the constitutional rights of each person who voted in the 2024 Rockland County general election. The best way to determine if the results are correct is to examine the paper ballots in a full public, transparent hand recount of all presidential and senate ballots in Rockland County. We believe it's vitally important, especially in the current environment, to be absolutely confident about the results of the election."
The complaint outlined how a number of voters relayed under sworn testimony that they voted for independent U.S. Senate candidate Diane Sare, yet the Rockland County Board of Elections recorded fewer votes for Sare than should have been reported.
In addition to this, 331 voters in Rockland County NY district 35 reportedly chose Democratic State Senate candidate Kirsten Gillibrand during the 2024 elections, but allegedly none of them continued to vote for Harris in the presidential election.
A similar incident occurred in Rockland County NY district 55, where 909 voters opted for Gillibrand but only two cast their votes for Harris.
Comparing the results of the 2024 election to the results collected in 2020, a statistician stated that the alleged results of the election in four out of the five towns making up Rockland County are "highly unlikely".
"These data would require extreme sociological or political causes for their explanation, and would benefit from further assurances as to their fidelity," said Max Bonamente, a professor of physics and astronomy at the University of Alabama in Huntsville.
ok NOW i think something fishy may be going on
IF THIS IS TRUE that is
if we can get confirmation she got 0 votes that is a major red flag
i fully believe that Trumps heavy focus on "the election is rigged" during the last few years was to make it so Dems put all their weight on saying that the election results have to be trusted, and thus make it near impossible for them to question the results when he then rigs it
While it sounds true I always feel like I can't believe any of these election fraud theories for the same reason I couldn't believe other conspiracy theories; do you really think they could keep that many people's mouths shut? Even with Musk's ketamine fueled meltdown earlier wouldn't he have said it? Plus the other people involved, with how frequently Trump burns bridges how could they swear hundreds of people to silence? Even this isn't because of a whistleblower really and the idea of Trump planning out something four years ahead of time when I'm not sure he could even remember something that long at this point, lol.I think the major difference between the two is that the Trump fraud bs fizzled out in court each and every time. This one for Kamala was granted cert, so let's see how the claims play out. If the company can win and actually prove their claims (unlike the ones for Trump) then I think the effort may be worth it.
I don't think it'll matter
It's not like Trump is gonna step down or anything.
So because there would be a fight if it turns out he actually legitimately lost that means we shouldn't even bother to find out the truth?It'd be nice to learn the truth, but I'm just not getting my hopes up that it'll actually amount to anything.
While it sounds true I always feel like I can't believe any of these election fraud theories for the same reason I couldn't believe other conspiracy theories; do you really think they could keep that many people's mouths shut? Even with Musk's ketamine fueled meltdown earlier wouldn't he have said it?
I don't think it'll matter
It's not like Trump is gonna step down or anything.
My biggest suspicion was how fast the final count was tallied up but was told to shut upI felt something was off about that too. The 2020 election took over a day to finalize but this one was called before midnight.
I felt something was off about that too. The 2020 election took over a day to finalize but this one was called before midnight.That was weird to me as well but I didn't see anyone questioning it and didn't want to be a conspiracy theorist.
Hate to say this, but even if it's true, does it matter at this point? Meaning nobody is going to kick Trump out anyway.It probably wouldn't result in Trump stepping down, but it still needs to be pointed out. This would be truly heinous levels of election fraud and would completely destroy trust in the election process.
i fully believe that Trumps heavy focus on "the election is rigged" during the last few years was to make it so Dems put all their weight on saying that the election results have to be trusted, and thus make it near impossible for them to question the results when he then rigs it
Elon REALLY KNOWS those machines.
Exactly this. He knew what he was doing when he was falsely saying it was rigged when he lost. He knew it wasn't rigged. But more than that, he knew his idiot followers would believe it was rigged all because he said so.
Hate to say this, but even if it's true, does it matter at this point? Meaning nobody is going to kick Trump out anyway.
At this point, does it matter if it is rigged? There is no way in hell Trump is ever going to step down.This, and the mechanisms intended to investigate this and hold him accountable are under his control.
If true, I don't think there is anything that can be done legally.
Inb4 the hurr its a conspiracy, its impossible to hack the machines, Harris ran a bad campaign posters.
If true, legality would no longer hold any meaning.
Inb4 the hurr its a conspiracy, its impossible to hack the machines, Harris ran a bad campaign posters.
Rockland County has districts that are 100% Orthodox Jewish and they just vote with whatever the rabbi says.
Same district voted 100% for Trump over Biden in 2020 so it's not really shocking they'd do it again.
I would say we should probably wait for concrete evidence before we start setting up the streamers.
Hate to say this, but even if it's true, does it matter at this point? Meaning nobody is going to kick Trump out anyway.The truth still matters. All really is lost if truth is abandoned.
If true, legality would no longer hold any meaning.Yep, that's the general idea.
Even if nothing meaningfully changes stuff like this needs to be investigated. People get way too defeatist sometimes.