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The crests are to blame, after all.
Except everything.
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Except she did everything wrong and caused the deaths of countless people
She's like a cat in the dark.
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Dimitri: "Must you continue to conquer? Continue to kill?"
Edelgard: "lol why you fightin back bro"
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Nothing whatsoever.
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All of TH could've been avoided if Byleth just put Aymr on the top shelf.

Down with Midgetgard.
I disposed of doubt long ago.
This will be a day long remembered.
Three Houses really exposed how much of the FE community is misogynist.
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She did plenty wrong, but was acting on modified/half truths so its to be expected.
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The thing is she could have accomplished almost all her aims without the continental wide war.
-Prosecute anyone involved with the crest experiments performed on her and her family.
-Ally with the Church and other nations to get rid of TWSITD.
-Implement laws banning discrimination based on crests.
-Employ Hanneman and like minded individuals to create weapons comparable to crest weapons for the crestless.
-Discuss with Dimitri/Claude how the crest system is ruining their societies and how measures need to be taken to fix this issue. Claude is basically already seeing this. Dimitri may need more coaxing, but seeing how in Azure Gleam he employs Miklan to prove that people without Crests could be just as capable as people with them, he is also of the same mind.

That just leaves the Church around, but most of the problems it generates disappear if people quit worrying about crests. Edelgard also could decide to ignore the Church's rulings that keep technology stagnant and allow society to progress. Rhea may be mad, but she isn't going to declare a war over it.

Of course, we don't get Three Houses if El doesn't choose violence...so she is a tragic antagonist to give us one of the best Fire Emblem's to date. Oddly enough, in Crimson Flower the world ends up better than it was before post-TWSITD being defeated, but yeah, it took a war and a lot of deaths to do it.
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Tmaster148 posted...
Three Houses really exposed how much of the FE community is misogynist.
Theres a gulf between Edelgard is the deepest of scum and was just evil to be evil and Edelgard did nothing wrong tho lol

She absolutely does a lot wrong and none of it is because shes a woman
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The only thing she did wrong was not tell her allies the ballistic missiles were used by those who slither in the dark. Otherwise, she is 100% in the right in the Crimson Flower route.
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Edlegard fans be like "She's hot, so she's right"
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Unsuprised_Pika posted...
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Yeah, I've noticed it as well. Probably not helping matters is I thought Engage was a spinoff or something tied to the horrible gacha phone game FE Heroes considering all the previous games' characters being promoted, so I didn't and still haven't gotten around to playing it.

People wanted a narrative strong title like Three Houses. Not a game with villains that mine as well be Team Rocket with how many times you defeat them only to come back.
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LordFarquad1312 posted...
The only thing she did wrong was not tell her allies the ballistic missiles were used by those who slither in the dark. Otherwise, she is 100% in the right in the Crimson Flower route.
I mean I think working with the slithers in general is incredibly wrong on its own lol

Shes definitely better in Crimson flower than she is in the other routes though
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Why did Edelgard get a cavity?

Becase the
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Is to blame
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Three Houses discussion is kind of a mess because characters act drastically different depending on which route you are on.
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YellowSUV posted...
Three Houses discussion is kind of a mess because characters act drastically different depending on which route you are on.
Also very true.

I started with Blue Lions which does not have a charitable interpretation of Edelgards actions lol
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Unsuprised_Pika posted...
Why did Edelgard get a cavity?

Becase the
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Is to blame

Why are you bringing toothpaste hair from Engage into this discussion?
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LordFarquad1312 posted...
The only thing she did wrong was not tell her allies the ballistic missiles were used by those who slither in the dark. Otherwise, she is 100% in the right in the Crimson Flower route.
Okay but how about how she behaves in the other 75% of the game that isn't the route specifically written to make her look better?
edelgard is like leluche
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OmegaShinkai posted...
Okay but how about how she behaves in the other 75% of the game that isn't the route specifically written to make her look better?
You mean the other 3 routes in which Byleth isn't around to guide her, which is entirely the point of the game as Dimitry also goes off the deep end without Byleth?

Charged151 posted...
People wanted a narrative strong title like Three Houses. Not a game with villains that mine as well be Team Rocket with how many times you defeat them only to come back.
You may not like the story of Engage, but it's told very well.

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Ivynn posted...
Except everything.

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Charged151 posted...
The thing is she could have accomplished almost all her aims without the continental wide war.
-Prosecute anyone involved with the crest experiments performed on her and her family.
-Ally with the Church and other nations to get rid of TWSITD.
-Implement laws banning discrimination based on crests.
-Employ Hanneman and like minded individuals to create weapons comparable to crest weapons for the crestless.
-Discuss with Dimitri/Claude how the crest system is ruining their societies and how measures need to be taken to fix this issue. Claude is basically already seeing this. Dimitri may need more coaxing, but seeing how in Azure Gleam he employs Miklan to prove that people without Crests could be just as capable as people with them, he is also of the same mind.
Man, now I know how the victims of gish gallops feel. I could go into detail of how all five of your points are nonsense to begin with and why Edelgard wouldn't attempt to do them while Rhea's still in power, but I'd be spend five times as long minimum refuting sentence-length drivel that I've already refuted a dozen or so times before, so instead I have some reading material for you:

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AudienceAwarenessAdvantage

LordFarquad1312 posted...
You may not like the story of Engage, but it's told very well.
No, it genuinely isn't, the game is a tonal nightmare which features things like a young girl getting shanked by her mother figure and a father attempting to murder and actually murdering one of their kids just before we get the ridiculous "I'm the Fire Emblem!?" scene, and also it resorts to villains getting their sad backstories vomited in the player's face all in one go mere minutes before their deaths at least three times .
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Metal_Gear_Raxis posted...
Man, now I know how the victims of gish gallops feel. I could go into detail of how all five of your points are nonsense to begin with and why Edelgard wouldn't attempt to do them while Rhea's still in power, but I'd be spend five times as long minimum refuting sentence-length drivel that I've already refuted a dozen or so times before, so instead I have some reading material for you:

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AudienceAwarenessAdvantage
Damn man I dont think that dude was saying anything wild lol

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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
Theres a gulf between Edelgard is the deepest of scum and was just evil to be evil and Edelgard did nothing wrong tho lol

She absolutely does a lot wrong and none of it is because shes a woman
People in this fandom have an issue with hyperfixating on the flaws of its female leads. Eirika, Micaiah, Lucina, Celica, and now Edelgard have all been put under the microscope and raked across the coals for every mistake they make, and meanwhile people turn Sigurd's reckless, thoughtless subjugation of Verdane and Augustria into a "Sigurd took a walk one day and accidentally conquered two countries!" meme.

I've seen so many people unironically excuse Dimitri committing torture on screen .
Time is a funny thing, you know? I guess in the big picture of my life, you were only a blip. But oftentimes, those "blips" make the biggest impacts.
I don't think pointing things out like how Edelgard allows her subjects to be kidnapped, experimented on and turned into hideous beasts is being put under the microscope but go ahead and claim that it's because she's a woman and lump her in with other female leads that aren't mass murderers with a Napoleon complex if it makes you feel better.
She started a war of conquest
Metal_Gear_Raxis posted...
People in this fandom have an issue with hyperfixating on the flaws of its female leads. Eirika, Micaiah, Lucina, Celica, and now Edelgard have all been put under the microscope and raked across the coals for every mistake they make, and meanwhile people turn Sigurd's reckless, thoughtless subjugation of Verdane and Augustria into a "Sigurd took a walk one day and accidentally conquered two countries!" meme.

I've seen so many people unironically excuse Dimitri committing torture on screen .

Dimitri is also a terrible person. Literally Claude is the only good lord in the game. Edelgard, Dimitri, and Rhea are all pieces of shit.
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Dimitri is also a terrible person. Literally Claude is the only good lord in the game. Edelgard, Dimitri, and Rhea are all pieces of shit.

I wouldn't go as far to say Dimitri (or even Rhea) is a piece of shit. Dude was the most moral of the lords but then had his whole world destroyed during the time skip. Becoming a murder hobo was bad and the way he treated his friends and allies was disgraceful tho.
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Dimitri is also a terrible person. Literally Claude is the only good lord in the game. Edelgard, Dimitri, and Rhea are all pieces of shit.
Yeah, I honestly regret playing Golden Deer first because the other two paths felt terrible by comparison, and I never bothered following through with Edelgards completely because she was just... Well, her.
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Dimitri is also a terrible person. Literally Claude is the only good lord in the game. Edelgard, Dimitri, and Rhea are all pieces of shit.
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Dimitri falling so far from grace to the point he was a murderous shell of himself did make for an incredibly interesting character tho.

I was very pleasantly surprised that they went as dark as they did with post timeskip Dimitri. The dude was closer to a feral animal than a man by the start of the timeskip
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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
Dimitri falling so far from grace to the point he was a murderous shell of himself did make for an incredibly interesting character tho.

I was very pleasantly surprised that they went as dark as they did with post timeskip Dimitri. The dude was closer to a feral animal than a man by the start of the timeskip

Not really. He had no real character for a few chapters, then suddenly switched to make the whole point of it meaningless. Dimitri is by far the worst written character in all of Three Houses.
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Tmaster148 posted...
Not really. He had no real character for a few chapters, then suddenly switched to make the whole point of it meaningless. Dimitri is by far the worst written character in all of Three Houses.
His first few chapters is being the noble and righteous pretty boy. He would probably tell himself hed be that person forever no matter what happens. He then immediately loses literally everything and becomes a murder hobo while trying to survive for those years.

I found him regressing into a beast pretty cool, particularly because it shows Felix was kind of right about what kind of person he was when shit got tough. I also dont really put massive expectations on fire emblem writing I guess
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OmegaShinkai posted...
I don't think pointing things out like how Edelgard allows her subjects to be kidnapped, experimented on and turned into hideous beasts
When did this happen?

lump her in with other female leads that aren't mass murderers
Edelgard's a mass murderer?

with a Napoleon complex
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You don't even know what you're saying, do you?
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Did he ever actually guard any Edels?

Checkmate.
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Funny thing is that in Three Hopes, you actually do see some of Edelgard's plans come into fruition without Rhea throwing a monkey wrench into by bringing in Byleth. She managed to have Monica rescued and not be killed like she was in Three Houses and she was able to expose the Agarthans faster with the temporary partnership with Rhea and stopping them from doing more damage than they could have. She was also able to bring into judgment those who were using her situation and the Agarthans to their advantage within the court like Ferdinand and Bernadetta's fathers.

Of course, people then complain about how Claude was ruined in that game.
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Ivynn posted...
Dimitri: "Must you continue to conquer? Continue to kill?"
Edelgard: "lol why you fightin back bro"

In his own route Dimitri defends the continent's objectively fake religion because "people need faith" even though said religion is causing massive discrimination, so neither of the two is working with a full set of gears.

3 Hopes Claude has the right ideas.
Sorry.
Not sorry.
Cynrascal posted...


Of course, people then complain about how Claude was ruined in that game.

What did they do to them?

Tmaster148 posted...
Three Houses really exposed how much of the FE community is misogynist.

I don't necessarily disagree but can you unpack this? Then again I don't think we needed Three Houses to show that.
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SecretBase posted...
In his own route Dimitri defends the continent's objectively fake religion because "people need faith" even though said religion is causing massive discrimination, so neither of the two is working with a full set of gears.

3 Hopes Claude has the right ideas.
3 hopes Claude feels misguided to me. That has more to do with Golden Wildfires second half feeling.weird tho. I actually read a pretty good post earlier about how 3 hopes Claude seems to rapidly become akin to a dictator who trusts absolutely nobody, and the game doesnt really portray that too negatively

The second half of Golden wildfire is basically launching their own war of aggression that doesnt seem like it really fixes things by the end, and Claude in game seems to feel exactly the same way
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Three Houses really exposed how much of the FE community are simps
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The Church of Seiros had to go, that much is true. Edelgard just had the most violent way to go about it.
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El_Dustino posted...
What did they do to them?

Claude is more cutthroat in Three Hopes with his plans and schemes and had to be eventually called out for it by Shez and Judith. He intentionally sacrificed Randolph just to get the opportunity to kill Catherine. He also willingly start up an alliance with Edelgard in both the Golden Wildfire (Leicester Federation route) and Scarlet Blaze (Adrestian Empire).
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Cynrascal posted...
Claude is more cutthroat in Three Hopes with his plans and schemes and had to be eventually called out for it by Shez and Judith. He intentionally sacrificed Randolph just to get the opportunity to kill Catherine. He also willingly start up an alliance with Edelgard in both the Golden Wildfire (Leicester Federation route) and Scarlet Blaze (Adrestian Empire).
No sir I don't like it, Claude was the only lord i tolerated in the OG game lol
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People fundamentally misunderstood Claude in 3H. He was always supposed to be the evil machiavellian bastard that he is in 3Hopes but 3H's rushed, cursed dev cycle prevented him from having his own route where he actually shows it.

He comes back and conquers Fodlan by force in every ending he has the opportunity to, after all.
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