The Ferengi were a failed villian species when they first appeared in TNG.Quark in general was a more morally sound Ferengi compared to others, comparatively speaking. One point even he knew weapons were more profitable than running a bar but he enjoys serving people and seeing their pleased reactions to his service.
But I think they turned out fine. It was refreshing and entertaining how they were one of the few people allowed to greedy, sexist, and driven by profit. However they had their good points too like Quark caring about his nephew Rom.
when they were introduced they were bizarre cavemen guys with electric whips.This. They were basically just space goblins. All the hyper-capitalist and misogynist stuff came later.
When they were first introduced, they were suspiciously stereotypical Jewish caricatures. Nowadays, however, they're obvious stereotypical conservative Republican caricatures.Humans. They were based on 20th century humans.
Did they even appear in TNG past the first season? I thought they were a one off thing until DS9 made one of the main characters a ferengi.Yeah, there was at least one episode where a few Ferengi showed up for negotiation over ownership of a wormhole, and they wound up going through it. Those Ferengi would later appear in Voyager.
Yeah, there was at least one episode where a few Ferengi showed up for negotiation over ownership of a wormhole, and they wound up going through it. Those Ferengi would later appear in Voyager.
Yeah, there was at least one episode where a few Ferengi showed up for negotiation over ownership of a wormhole, and they wound up going through it. Those Ferengi would later appear in Voyager.I remember that. It turned out that the wormhole wasn't fixed to a specific location, so it could spit people out in random places. Stranding them.
They also got outsmarted by a bunch of the crew who were turned into children.There was also a Ferengi bad guy in Captain's Holiday, played by the same actor who would eventually play Rom.
I remember that. It turned out that the wormhole wasn't fixed to a specific location, so it could spit people out in random places. Stranding them.Most wormholes are like that. DS9 was special in that it was near a wormhole where one end was stable. The Borg had the technology to lock down wormholes which let them get to lots of places in the galaxy that they wouldn't have been able to otherwise.
This. They were basically just space goblins. All the hyper-capitalist and misogynist stuff came later.
Did they even appear in TNG past the first season? I thought they were a one off thing until DS9 made one of the main characters a ferengi.Yeah they did. Picard had an old nemesis DaiMon Bok from Season 1 (Bok was the recipient of a 'slight' when Picard was on the Stargazer) and he resurfaced in Season 7 trying to get revenge (again). But by that point the DS9 changes had taken place so Bok being crazy was even more pronounced by then.
Eh, they were misogynist from the start, in their first appearance on TNG they commented about how obscene it was or something that the Federation clothed their females.
But yes, the hyper capitalism was later and it really wasn't until DS9 that the species really got fully fleshed out.
Yeah they did. Picard had an old nemesis DaiMon Bok from Season 1 and he resurfaced in Season 7 trying to get revenge (again). But by that point the DS9 changes had taken place so Bok being crazy was even more pronounced by then.
They also got outsmarted by a bunch of the crew who were turned into children.
DS9 fixed them.
Don't forget the Doctor Crusher murder mystery episode.
I think the quote was "You clothe your females, yoomaan?"
Humans. They were based on 20th century humans.That explains why the Star Trek Humans aren't so stupid. Are they supposed to be Earth Humans, or were there Humans from other galaxies?
The humans in Star Trek are not based on real humans.
That explains why the Star Trek Humans aren't so stupid. Are they supposed to be Earth Humans, or were there Humans from other galaxies?They're Earth humans who grew up in a future where capitalism no longer exists
Capitalism exists in ST they're just post-scarcity and in the backstory it took a ton of shit to get there.Kinda depends on who's running the show at a specific point. TOS still has characters referring to buying and selling things, but TNG and DS9 pretty explicitly state that money as a concept no longer exists (on Earth) and people just work for their own satisfaction, self-improvement, and betterment of those around them. I think Enterprise backpedals a bit on this but I didn't watch a lot of Enterprise.
That explains why the Star Trek Humans aren't so stupid. Are they supposed to be Earth Humans, or were there Humans from other galaxies?
When they were first introduced, they were suspiciously stereotypical Jewish caricatures. Nowadays, however, they're obvious stereotypical conservative Republican caricatures.
This. They were basically just space goblins. All the hyper-capitalist and misogynist stuff came later.They were mocking capitalists. Yankee traders was used as a comparison in the first conversation about them. Making them act as foolish as they did completely ruined them.
Kinda depends on who's running the show at a specific point. TOS still has characters referring to buying and selling things, but TNG and DS9 pretty explicitly state that money as a concept no longer exists (on Earth) and people just work for their own satisfaction, self-improvement, and betterment of those around them. I think Enterprise backpedals a bit on this but I didn't watch a lot of Enterprise.Also in Star Trek IV Kirk explicitly says they don't have money in his time.
Don't forget the Doctor Crusher murder mystery episode.Underrated episode. That was the first attempt at fleshing out the Ferengi giving us the first example of one who didn't care about scheming and profit.
Rule of Acquisition #91 - Your boss is only worth what he pays you.That's a pretty good quote.
Words to live by.
Capitalism exists in ST they're just post-scarcity and in the backstory it took a ton of shit to get there.
Did they even appear in TNG past the first season? I thought they were a one off thing until DS9 made one of the main characters a ferengi.