Kamala Harris Book Tells Biden Called Just Before Debate with Trump

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/19/angry-and-disappointed-kamala-harris-critical-of-joe-biden-in-new-book

Kamala Harris has revealed she was angry and disappointed when Joe Biden called her hours before her US presidential debate with Donald Trump to suggest powerful associates of Bidens brother refused to support her.
The former vice-president and Democratic nominee recounts the episode and other criticisms of Biden in her campaign memoir 107 Days, obtained by the Guardian before its publication next week.

Harris writes that in September she was in a hotel room in Philadelphia, poised to take on Trump in a potentially decisive debate, when the then president called to wish her good luck and to ask if she would be back in Philadelphia before the election.
Harris wondered why Biden would ask such a non sequitur. According to the book, he told her: My brother called. Hes been talking to a group of real power brokers in Philly. He offered several names and asked if Harris knew them. She did not.
Harris writes: Then he got to his point. His brother had told him that those guys were not going to support me because Id been saying bad things about him. He wasnt inclined to believe it, he claimed, but he thought I should know in case my team had been encouraging me to put daylight between the two of us.

The then vice-president asked Biden to put the group in touch with her directly. But he was not done with the call. He sought to rewrite the history of his own disastrous debate performance against Trump three months earlier.
Joe then rattled on about his own former debate performances. I beat him the other time; I wasnt feeling well in that last one. He continued to insist that his debate performance hadnt hurt him much with the electorate. I was barely listening.
Harris goes on to reflect that her debate against Trump would be like a big prizefight, with huge consequences for America and the world, and she needed to be at the top of her game.

She writes of Biden: I just couldnt understand why he would call me, right now, and make it all about himself. Distracting me with worry about hostile power-brokers in the biggest city of the most important state.
Her husband, Doug Emhoff, could see how angry and disappointed I was. Let it go, he said. He knew I had to redirect my focus. Dont worry about him. Youre dealing with Trump. Let it go.

During the campaign and in its aftermath, Harris had avoided criticism of the president she served beside and defended him amid questions about his mental acuity.
But in 107 Days she lays bare tensions between the two. When the supreme court overturned the Roe v Wade decision on abortion in 2022, for example, Joe struggled to talk about reproductive rights in a way that met the gravity of the moment.
Harris acknowledges there was a distinction between Bidens ability to govern and to campaign, and that she had concerns about the latter. His voice was no longer strong, his verbal stumbles more frequent, she writes.

There was an awkward meeting on 4 July, when Biden was facing growing calls to step aside after his feeble debate performance. Harris hugged him and notes that he felt so frail, while Emhoff was led away to see the first lady at the time, Jill Biden.
Harris reports: She seemed tense, even angry. Whats going on? she demanded. Are you supporting us? Of course, Doug said. Of course we are supporting you. OK. Thats really important. We need to know that.
When I joined him, Harris continues, Doug was wearing a grim expression. Doug runs cool. Hes slow to anger. But I could tell something had gotten to him.

Later, he unloaded. They hide you away for four years, give you impossible, shit jobs, dont correct the record when those tasks are mischaracterised, never fight back when youre attacked, never praise your accomplishments, and now, finally, they want you out there on that balcony, standing right beside them. Now, finally, they know you are an asset, and they need you to reassure the American people.
And still, they have to ask if were loyal?
Harris had felt similar frustrations, recalling how she was once castigated by Bidens team for apparently delivering a speech too well. Their thinking was zero-sum: Ifshes shining, hes dimmed .

Biden bowed to the inevitable and dropped out of the election race on 21 July, then endorsed Harris. Campaign advisers urged her to distance herself from the president. David Plouffe, a senior aide, eventually told her: People hate Joe Biden. Harris admits: It was hard for me to hear that.
She had just over three months to fight Trump and his army of rightwing influencers. At the end of July, the Republican nominee falsely claimed that Harris, whose mother was Indian and father is Jamaican, happened to turn Black a few years ago, a remark that blew up all over the media.
Harris told the campaign aide Brian Fallon that she was not going to take Trumps bait. She writes in the book: Today he wants me to prove my race. What next? Hell say Im not a woman and Ill need to show my vagina?
Brian, on the other end of the phone, fell silent. I imagined the deep crimson of his blush.
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Rotterdammerung posted...
Biden was a necessary evil. He thought he was an essential evil.
Biden stopping Trump in 2020 probably saved hundreds of millions of lives in the long run

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The time to distance herself from Biden was before the election.
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ai123 posted...
The time to distance herself from Biden was before the election.
When she was Vice President under Biden?

The excuses you people make to not blame Trump voters and non voters is bonkers

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UnfairRepresent posted...
Biden stopping Trump in 2020 probably saved hundreds of millions of lives in the long run

Calling him evil is like calling factions evil in Warhammer 40k
Thus necessary evil, you absolutely silly sausage.
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She should call her book What Happened 2: Electric Boogaloo
Biden is saying his debate wasn't that bad

Biden was in his own bubble for 2024 possibly in 2023. God the 2024 election was fucked from the get go.
name_unknown posted...
Biden is saying his debate wasn't that bad
To be fair, its not nearly as bad as the media pretended it was and Trump was even worse against Harris

So I kinda see his point
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UnfairRepresent posted...
When she was Vice President under Biden?

The excuses you people make to not blame Trump voters and non voters is bonkers
You don't think her saying she would not have done anything differently was damaging?
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ai123 posted...
You don't think her saying she would not have done anything differently was damaging?
No not really.

You think the "champions of Gaza" who voted Trump or stayed at home really cared?

You think people heard Trump ranting about illegal transgender surgeries in prisons and eating dogs but then went "Well I don't know about Harris' economic plans to help small businesses,"

On some level you can't ignore that most Americans either flat out support dictatorship or won't lift a finger to oppose it

"but what if she had worn a green hat on Tuesdays!?" is just making excuses and I think you know that even if you refuse to admit

You're acting like her loss is reasonable and if only she had made minor nitpick changes, reality would alter.
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name_unknown posted...
Biden is saying his debate wasn't that bad

It was, objectively, the worst presidential debate performance in US history. No other debate has ever directly resulted in one of the two main party candidates exiting the race prior to election day.
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We really got folks in here defending Kamala when she couldn't even do the bare minimum and denounce the ongoing genocide in Gaza?
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UnfairRepresent posted...
No not really.

You think the "champions of Gaza" who voted Trump or stayed at home really cared?

You think people heard Trump ranting about illegal transgender surgeries in prisons and eating dogs but then went "Well I don't know about Harris' economic plans to help small businesses,"

On some level you can't ignore that most Americans either flat out support dictatorship or won't lift a finger to oppose it

"but what if she had worn a green hat on Tuesdays!?" is just making excuses and I think you know that even if you refuse to admit

You're acting like her loss is reasonable and if only she had made minor nitpick changes, reality would alter.

Lots of people think that her failure to distance herself or differentiate herself from a deeply unpopular President was a significant strategic mistake. One that alienated voters not on the hardcore of each side in a narrow election. Ai123s position is a perfectly reasonable one to take.

If one were to make the bad decision to go back and read my posts on this board about the election, one would see that I place blame on the electorate more than any other thing (other than the bad faith GOP itself). Trump has been terrible since well before he got into politics, he had a disastrous first term, he tried to overthrow the duly elected government when he lost, and the voting public still elected him. I am disgusted by that, and always will be.

But elections are always lost for more than one reason. Harris needed to distance herself from Biden and tell worried Americans how her different policies would make their lives better, and she didnt. It was a clear mistake, and one that was obvious at the time.

An opinion does not turn into a fact simply because the person holding it feels strongly about it.
yeah this book got way more interesting to me now. Ill be picking this up. I thought this book was not gonna be about her campaign.

It was all good and momentum was there early. then people just didnt show up to vote i guess.
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refmon posted...
We really got folks in here defending Kamala when she couldn't even do the bare minimum and denounce the ongoing genocide in Gaza?

Harris has said during her campaign that what was happening in Gaza was wrong and talked about support for a ceasefire and 2 state solution.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/25/politics/harris-netanyahu-israel-hamas-ceasefire

Vice President Kamala Harris vowed to not be silent about suffering in Gaza amid the Israel-Hamas war, saying she expressed her serious concern to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu Thursday while telling him it is time to lock down a ceasefire deal.
Israel has a right to defend itself and how it does so matters. What has happened in Gaza over the past nine months is devastating, Harris, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, told reporters in remarks after her meeting with Netanyahu in Washington.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-harris-says-two-state-solution-end-of-israel-hamas-war-is-crucial

Vice President Kamala Harris was asked how she would broker a deal to end the war between Israel and Hamas, a stalemate President Joe Biden says hes been unable break through amid numerous attempts to broker cease-fire deals in the war that has raged on close to a year.
Harris said she would continue to work on a two-state solution around the clock.
In that solution there must be security for the Israeli people and Israel and in equal measure for the Palestinians, Harris said. But the one thing I will assure you always, I will always give Israel the ability to defend itself and in particular, as it relates to Iran and any threat that Iran and its proxies posed to Israel. But we must have a two-state solution where we can rebuild Gaza where the Palestinians have security, self-determination and the dignity they so rightly deserve.

But go on about how Harris was bad for Gaza as we have elected the guy who promised to turn Gaza into beachfront property.
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Tmaster148 posted...
Harris has said during her campaign that what was happening in Gaza was wrong and talked about support for a ceasefire and 2 state solution.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/25/politics/harris-netanyahu-israel-hamas-ceasefire

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-harris-says-two-state-solution-end-of-israel-hamas-war-is-crucial

But go on about how Harris was bad for Gaza as we have elected the guy who promised to turn Gaza into beachfront property.

but she could have done more and her laugh and and something else Im sure they can think of later.

refmon posted...
We really got folks in here defending Kamala when she couldn't even do the bare minimum and denounce the ongoing genocide in Gaza?

Uh, she did.

Gotta flail though, right?
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Tmaster148 posted...
But go on about how Harris was bad for Gaza as we have elected the guy who promised to turn Gaza into beachfront property.
Pay no heed to CoG ramblings. They'll say anything to justify their handing of Gaza to Trump.
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HashtagSEP posted...
Uh, she did.

Gotta flail though, right?
She didnt do it hard or loud enough!
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Based on this article and the follow up one on the Guardian about Shapiro and Buttigieg, it just makes everyone involved look ridiculous.

In the book, Harris questions her decision to not confront Biden, explaining that of all the people in the White House, I was in the worst position to make the case that he should drop out and feared that, if she did, it would be seen as incredibly self-serving and poisonous disloyalty.
In Harris account she writes that Shapiro, before shed interviewed him, had asked how many bedrooms were in the vice-presidents residence and if the Smithsonian would lend Pennsylvania art for display.
SaikyoStyle posted...
She didnt do it hard or loud enough!
because it was killer Kamala vs Donald the dove

most fall into the trap US can influence Bibi, you can't he is going to do what is best for him that keeps him in power and out of prison
Giod lord. That is certainly a version of events.

Setting aside the stray complaints mentiond in the article, her decisions towards the end of her campaign had doomed her chances. Not Biden calling her before a debate.

Shes going to try to rewrite her loss as a combination of Trump and Biden preventing her from doing well.

So despite never running a successful national campaign, Harris will be trying to position herself as the obvious nominee. And well have to go through all the bullcrap from the election again instead of hearing from new candidates.
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Hospy posted...
Based on this article and the follow up one on the Guardian about Shapiro and Buttigieg, it just makes everyone involved look ridiculous.

Jesus Christ. That's the reason she didn't choose an official from a critical swing state?

I like Tim Waltz but that was a wild miscalculation choosing a safe state governor over a critical state.
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refmon posted...
We really got folks in here defending Kamala when she couldn't even do the bare minimum and denounce the ongoing genocide in Gaza?

ai123 posted...
You don't think her saying she would not have done anything differently was damaging?

And yet, you still refuse to see the bigger picture, even many months into Trump 2.0.
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divot1338 posted...
Shes going to try to rewrite her loss as a combination of Trump and Biden preventing her from doing well.

Her campaign hit the shitter the second she started courting Republicans and laid off remarks calling them weird.
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Charismic_Zach_Gowen posted...
Jesus Christ. That's the reason she didn't choose an official from a critical swing state?

I like Tim Waltz but that was a wild miscalculation choosing a safe state governor over a critical state.
Eh, the article goes a little more in depth of why she didn't pick him, but that particular tidbit just made Shapiro look enormously out of touch

Harris writes that she mused that he would want to be in the room for every decision and told him that was an unrealistic expectation and a vice-president is not a co-president.
Charismic_Zach_Gowen posted...
Her campaign hit the shitter the second she started courting Republicans and laid off remarks calling them weird.
Both things can be true.

It was painfully obvious that Biden was holding her back and it was painfully obvious the moment he opened his mouth during his debate that he had lost the election for everyone.

Harris did not help herself at all.
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while I appreciate the concept of getting that bag, would it not have been better to say all this back when it actually mattered
Why not go all in?
Voidgolem posted...
while I appreciate the concept of getting that bag, would it not have been better to say all this back when it actually mattered
Whining about her own party, while vice president, would have helped her election chances? I swear, CE just adamantly refuses to see the folly in fighting against your own while in the middle of an active campaign.
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I actually agree that she couldn't have turned on Biden herself, that would've been seen as a Sith move. The rest of the party and Biden himself doesn't have that excuse.
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Whining about her own party, while vice president, would have helped her election chances? I swear, CE just adamantly refuses to see the folly in fighting against your own while in the middle of an active campaign.

How much worse could the campaign have turned out. Be honest.
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TheFuzz3451 posted...
It was, objectively, the worst presidential debate performance in US history. No other debate has ever directly resulted in one of the two main party candidates exiting the race prior to election day.
It wasn't even the worst debate performance on that stage .
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DrizztLink posted...
It wasn't even the worst debate performance on that stage .
Trump held it together and didn't have an extremely long awkward pause. Whether he was truthful or not is an entirely different matter. The public thought Biden lost the debate and shouldn't even be running.
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I missed this topic, this book honestly sounds interesting. Of course you need to take everything she says with a pinch of salt since she's obviously going to try to make herself look better, but hearing about the behind the scenes drama is weirdly fascinating.

As for the discussion, she could have broken away from him on some things during her campaign, it should be expected. Saying she will be the same as Biden was extremely damning.

Biden announced his support for gay marriage before Obamna did and that really made me like him so much more. I wanted him to run in 2016 before he was sadly unable to.
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I lost a lot of respect for Kamala. After the election...she should've asked for recounts and investigations. Plenty of shady stuff did happen. Instead of trying to help....she just wants to sell a stupid book.
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