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ConfusedTorchic posted...
well, yes, since this is something only happening in america

it's one of those things where the brand name just becomes the name regardless of if it's the brand name product or an offbrand. any tissue is a kleenex, any glass cleaner is windex, ect.
I think the US is also relatively unique in having several different names for the same drug, but I'm not super-certain on the other markets.

Like, I know they think our drug commercials are fucking weird , but that's roughly it.
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Fucking Trump making me support a fucking pharmaceutical company.

One of the lowest, vilest things to ever exist.

Makes me sick.
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Umbreon posted...
Tylenol could make a woman experience less pain, and we can't have that. After all, this administration doesn't actually view women as people.

"To the woman he said, 'I will surely multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children'" (Genesis 3:16, ESV)

Seriously though, why are they so hellbent on blaming autism on some type of medication? It's most likely always been a thing, only back in the day severe cases were institutionalized with no real diagnosis. That's how society hid conditions they didn't understand or know how to treat. Out of sight, out of mind.
Presumably they make sure the Tylenol brand sticks so people pay more for it.

The generic version of Extra Strength Tylenol costs 35p ($0.47) for 16 tablets in Aldi.
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Takato posted...
US government: This drug that isn't available in most of the world and is primarily available in the USA, is the cause of something that exists in all countries at a reasonably comparable rate.

Also US government: Gun-fetish culture and ease-of-access that isn't available in most of the world and is primarily a thing in the USA, is in absolutely no way the cause of mass shootings / school shootings which exist in the USA at a very significantly higher rate than most of the world. Also now's not the time to talk about gun control.

US policies really don't add up when you consider the other developed nations that have similar cases but don't come up with the "2+2 = *toddler shit smear on the page instead of a 4*" answer that Trump's administration always seems to come up with.
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im pretty sure the antivax movement started in the UK by a doctor who wanted to push a alternative vaccine that he had finical stake in
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when i heard the announcement that Trump was gonna officially reveal the cause of autism, i immediately suspected it was gonna be something stupid.

and yeah, i wasnt wrong...
Funkydog posted...
Fucking Trump making me support a fucking pharmaceutical company.

One of the lowest, vilest things to ever exist.

Makes me sick.

Saying, No, Tylenol doesnt cause autism, Mr. Stupid Orange Man, is not supporting a the pharmaceutical company.

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Takato posted...
Tylenol is just panadol? Why's Trump blaming a specific brand rather than the active ingredient?
As much as I want to say because hes fucking stupid, it does seem hes not actually naming specific brands and its the media injecting that part.
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A decade ago I thought we were moving in a different direction as a society. Now we're full blown deep in the anti-science shit. It's quite depressing.
AceMos posted...
im pretty sure the antivax movement started in the UK by a doctor who wanted to push a alternative vaccine that he had finical stake in
Andrew Wakefield. The paper he wrote was so bad that it was not only retracted by the journal that published it but Wakefield himself was struck off by the British Medical Association after he was found to have committed fraud so he's no longer allowed to call himself 'Dr Wakefield'.

Despite all that the antivax movement he kicked off is not only still alive but arguably stronger than ever.
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AceMos posted...
im pretty sure the antivax movement started in the UK by a doctor who wanted to push a alternative vaccine that he had finical stake in
That's where the vaccine-autism fraud originates.

But the anti-vax movement is as old as vaccinations themselves. As in this 19th Century cartoon:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/94b20b8f.jpg

It used to be a fringe belief, often associated with hippie 'wellness' culture. But then you add politicization to conspiracy-minded, internet-addled brains, and we end up where we are today.
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Glad the guy leading our health is going to set medical science back decades if not centuries... Really cool of him...

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ai123 posted...
That's where the vaccine-autism fraud originates.

But the anti-vax movement is as old as vaccinations themselves. As in this 19th Century cartoon:

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It used to be a fringe belief, often associated with hippie 'wellness' culture. But then you add politicization to conspiracy-minded, internet-addled brains, and we end up where we are today.
Just to add to this, Wakefield recommended individual vaccines over the MMR jab, primarily because he benefited financially from such a course of actions. That means that the antivax guy of the modern era wasn't even against vaccines, just a specific vaccine .

This isn't to discount the damage he has done to healthcare, but those that he influenced didn't even follow what he said.
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Alright, so who in the administration, and to what extent, has money invested in this leucovorum alternative drug? Cos that's the main thing I see here is that it's probably yet another grift.
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If it's based on scientific studies that the article mentions, we'll see how Tylenol reacts.

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random_man9119 posted...
The worm should've eaten the rest of his brain...

Alas there just wasn't enough nutrition for it.
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Who even uses Tylenol anymore?
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McMarbles posted...
Who even uses Tylenol anymore?
Anyone with a fever or pain but don't want an nsaid.
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McMarbles posted...
Who even uses Tylenol anymore?
Tons of people? It's a super common over the counter drug here in the UK.
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Starks posted...
Anyone with a fever or pain but don't want an nsaid.
Or cant use an NSAID.
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McMarbles posted...
Who even uses Tylenol anymore?
I did less than a year ago
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Some of the most dear people in the world to me have Autism, including family and friends.

From that vantage I say, as usual: fuck this administration, everyone in it, and everyone who supports them.

They are as usual politicizing a serious issue instead of trying to help people impacted by it. Trump is again making these revelations all about himself. These are unserious people doing unserious things and setting medical science back and negatively impacting peoples lives for their own gain.

These ridiculous people say they have solved Autism in a matter of months. Yeah right. I would not trust this administration if they announced water is wet. Every one of them is a corrupt, terrible person doing terrible things. They all make me sick.
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McMarbles posted...
Who even uses Tylenol anymore?

Why would you think people don't use acetaminophen anymore?
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McMarbles posted...
Who even uses Tylenol anymore?

I have Tylenol in my cabinet or atleast cheaper brand versions of acetaminophen all the time available.

My works first aid containers have acetaminophen in them as well.

I assume the Tylenol report they are trying to frame will be something about acetaminophen in general. Although who knows, maybe they just hate Tylenol and it is specifically them.
emblem-man posted...
Why would you think people don't use acetaminophen anymore?

Guessing they meant Tylenol specifically, as in the brand name acetaminophen.
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Westernwolf4 posted...
These ridiculous people say they have solved Autism in a matter of months.
Yeah. As soon as they put out a deadline like "We'll have it by September" I knew they were full of shit. You can't know for sure when you'll have the answer to a question like this. You might find it tomorrow, it might take you ten years, and there's always the possibility you'll never find it. That's just how science works.
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Lillymon posted...
As soon as they put out a deadline like "We'll have it by September" I knew they were full of shit.
What this probably actually means is like, "we approved more trials for this one drug that will start in september"
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Tylenol brand is only worth it for the faster-acting liquid gels and your pharmacy doesn't have their own much cheaper store brand for them.
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Starks posted...
Tylenol brand is only worth it for the faster-acting liquid gels and your pharmacy doesn't have their own much cheaper store brand for them.
I'd say it's not even worth it for that. Regular old tablets are absorbed so quickly the difference between them and the 'faster-acting' liquid gels is probably best measured in seconds if it can be measured at all.

It's really just a bunch of marketing fluff to get people to pay more for a product that doesn't do more.
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McMarbles posted...
Who even uses Tylenol anymore?

Lots of people. What a weird question.
their whole "cure for autism" is going to be the same as their "cure for the pandemic" half a decade back:

"If we don't diagnose it, number go down!"
Why not go all in?
Voidgolem posted...
their whole "cure for autism" is going to be the same as their "cure for the pandemic" half a decade back:

"If we don't diagnose it, number go down!"

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Voidgolem posted...
their whole "cure for autism" is going to be the same as their "cure for the pandemic" half a decade back:

"If we don't diagnose it, number go down!"

Immediately made me think of

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Rexdragon125 posted...
I thought they would be pushing ivermectin to cure autism

Arent red states making it prescription free to get it now?
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Enclave posted...
Immediately made me think of

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/16739126.jpg

lol
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On the one hand, this will push expecting mothers to alternative painkillers that are legitimately hazardous for fetuses.

On the other hand, seems like it will be specifically people who follow what Trump actually says... So the bulk of people who will suffer will legitimately be his own followers and their offspring
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So from a super brief googling it sounds like leucovorin shows that it may be helpful in specific cases of autism but more research is needed.

So of course RFK believes it to be a blanket cure I guess?
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Enclave posted...
So from a super brief googling it sounds like leucovorin shows that it may be helpful in specific cases of autism but more research is needed.

So of course RFK believes it to be a blanket cure I guess?
Last time we had this situation a whole bunch of people shit themselves to death.
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Starks posted...
Anyone with a fever or pain but don't want an nsaid.
This. I avoid NSAIDs (aspirin actually causes intense stomach pain).
Cuticrusader09 posted...
This. I avoid NSAIDs (aspirin actually causes intense stomach pain).
Aspirin is known for that. Ibuprofen is generally considered superior because it doesn't do that.
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