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https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2025/sep/30/riyadh-comedy-festival-saudi-arabia

Billed as the biggest comedy festival in the world, the inaugural Riyadh Comedy festival, which is running 26 September to 9 October, features some of the biggest names in US comedy. The lineup features Dave Chappelle, Louis CK, Bill Burr, Kevin Hart, Whitney Cummings, Pete Davidson, Aziz Ansari and Jo Koy, among many others who are all taking their fees directly from the Saudi government. These comedians have already received criticism from Human Rights Watch, which argued in a news release that the festival is an effort by the Saudi regime to whitewash its notorious abuses. This whitewashing comes amid significant increase in repression, said HRW researcher Joey Shea, including a crackdown on free speech, which many of these comedians defend but people in Saudi Arabia are completely denied.

Comedians performing as the festivals headliners do not seem particularly concerned about the criticism or the alleged wrongdoing. One reporter was killed by the government unfortunate, but not a fucking hill that Im gonna die on, Jim Jefferies said on Theo Vons podcast in August, arguing it is for the greater good that freedom-of-speech machines such as himself bestow their edgy material on the kingdom and its subjects. (Since making the comments, Jefferies has since disappeared from the festivals lineup; his representatives did not respond to inquiries about this.) Distefano, chatting with Halkias, joked that an upside to the kingdoms repression of women is that his fiancee cant come with him. Mark Normand, on the other hand, joked he would bring his wife to show her how good she has it in America: I want to be like, You see? You think Im an asshole? Well, theyll cut your clit off, bitch.
Some comics were transparent about their willingness to ignore their moral convictions in order to play at the festival. So what, they have slaves? asked Tim Dillon in a podcast segment that led to his firing from the festival.

Theyre paying me enough money to look the other way. Pete Davidson offered a similar take, acknowledging in a chat with Von that people have asked him why, given his fathers death on 9/11, he would take a paycheck from the Saudi government. He did not address the criticism directly, but he did suggest he was happy to forget 9/11 for the right price: I just know I get the routing, and then I see the number, and I go, Ill go. How high is that number? According to Dillon, pretty high: in the same podcast that got him fired, he said the organizers offered him $375,000 and claimed that some comedians were offered millions. Gillis did not reveal how much the organizers offered him, but he did say that when he initially refused, they doubled the bag. Tough news for Dillon, who elsewhere claimed he asked for $500,000 but had to settle for less.

Wow. They got Bill Burr didnt expect him to be bought.
Hey now.
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BlueTigerLion posted...
Theyre paying me enough money to look the other way. Pete Davidson offered a similar take, acknowledging in a chat with Von that people have asked him why, given his fathers death on 9/11, he would take a paycheck from the Saudi government.
this is one of the most disgustingly weak things ive ever read in my life.
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I thought this was an onion article and when I double checked apparently TC was posting the Guardian.

BlueTigerLion posted...
Jim Jefferies said on Theo Vons podcast in August, arguing it is for the greater good that freedom-of-speech machines such as himself bestow their edgy material on the kingdom and its subjects. (Since making the comments, Jefferies has since disappeared from the festivals lineup; his representatives did not respond to inquiries about this.)
Wow. TC you absolutely sure this isn't an onion article?
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A_Good_Boy posted...
I thought this was an onion article and when I double checked apparently TC was posting the Guardian.

Wow. TC you absolutely sure this isn't an onion article?

I feel bad for the Onion, because it's hard to do parodies when real life is just a giant one already...unless this is a virtual reality simulator and in that case "I WANT OUT NOW!"
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A_Good_Boy posted...
I thought this was an onion article

Lol, yeah I was at least half expecting SOME generic bullshit but I guess good on them for telling everyone to fuck off they only care about money.
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Asherlee10 posted...
I'm struggling with similar ethics right now, too. Nothing on this sort of scale, but understanding that some of the clients I have for my primary business are companies that not always ethically "good."

I ask myself questions like, "Do I continue to take their money knowing that I try to live an ethical life and donate to good causes? Or am I shitty because I still take their money?"
Are you impossibly rich?

it would be an easier question to answer if so imo
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Comedians in America: We are the brave tellers of facts who speak truth to power! We are the court jesters who go after the King!!!!

Comedians after they see Saudi money: Man, I was dating this girl and there was such a big red flag that she thought she should be allowed to drive and go out without a male escort!

Also, I bet they can ask their colleagues colleagues what they think hahahaha just kidding Saudi Arabia doesn't allow Jews in its borders.
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Man real disappointing about Bill Burr
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Pete Davidson has literally become his Chad character.

"We're responsible for your father's death, but we'd like to pay you handsomely to entertain us."

"Okay."
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BlueTigerLion posted...
Theyre paying me enough money to look the other way. Pete Davidson offered a similar take, acknowledging in a chat with Von that people have asked him why, given his fathers death on 9/11, he would take a paycheck from the Saudi government. He did not address the criticism directly, but he did suggest he was happy to forget 9/11 for the right price: I just know I get the routing, and then I see the number, and I go, Ill go.
Fucking wow.
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I know not all stand up comedians are bad people, but so many comedians nowadays make me hate stand up comedy. It's all so annoying now.

Sad to see Bill Burr doing this after all the shit he talked about so many others. He's Billy Blood money now. Jesus Christ at that Davidson quote. Some people just have no principles at all.
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Asherlee10 posted...
What does impossibly rich mean?
Dave Chappelle, for example, gets paid $20 million per special

it should be easy for him to say no to Saudi money
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I would go there with the express purpose of making my entire comedy routine about Islam and the Crown Prince while grilling bacon over a sterno on stage.
It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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Tyranthraxus posted...
I would go there with the express purpose of making my entire comedy routine about Islam and the Crown Prince while grilling bacon over a sterno on stage.
You'd get yanked off stage and you wouldn't be going home again.
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People who said Bill Burr was brave and awesome for heckling his own crowd in Philly....that's like saying a dominatrix is brave for whipping a judge.

It's what they're paying for. There's no risk
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Tyranthraxus posted...
I would go there with the express purpose of making my entire comedy routine about Islam and the Crown Prince while grilling bacon over a sterno on stage.
They'd just pull you off the stage and pay you nothing. At best.
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A_Good_Boy posted...
You'd get yanked off stage and you wouldn't be going home again.

I'd have my dignity and soul and that's all that matters.
It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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Atsuko Okatsuka was offered, and not only did she turn it down, but also spilled the beans of how strict the set material mandate was.

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Tyranthraxus posted...
I would go there with the express purpose of making my entire comedy routine about Islam and the Crown Prince while grilling bacon over a sterno on stage.
They had to sign a contract explicitly prohibiting them from discussing certain topics including any criticism of Saudi Arabia

i assume they get no money or worse if they were to do something like that
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Tyranthraxus posted...
I would go there with the express purpose of making my entire comedy routine about Islam and the Crown Prince while grilling bacon over a sterno on stage.

It's literally in their contract they can't do that.

And for all their galavanting how brave they are, they won't do it because that's a real, genuine risk
Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen
The next obscene spectacle will be WrestleMania in Saudi Arabia.
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I don't think this is anything new. IIRC, Gabriel Iglesias (Fluffy) visited SA years ago and did bits about it.
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Yeah this whole thing doesnt sit right. Why are they even doing this just to show the world they can buy our richest most famous citizens?
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Tyranthraxus posted...
I'd have my dignity and soul and that's all that matters.

You could just

Not go.
Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen
Asherlee10 posted...
I'm struggling with similar ethics right now, too. Nothing on this sort of scale, but understanding that some of the clients I have for my primary business are companies that not always ethically "good."

I ask myself questions like, "Do I continue to take their money knowing that I try to live an ethical life and donate to good causes? Or am I shitty because I still take their money?"

Yeah it's tough because they touch so much stuff. Google, Nvidia, oracle, AMD, sports, oil...like most of us are involved with them in some way.

I wish Bill declined, but I'm not going to boycott him either. If the Saudis give me millions just to tell jokes, not even say positive stuff about them, just say my regular stuff, then I'll probably do it too.
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Tyranthraxus posted...
I would go there with the express purpose of making my entire comedy routine about Islam and the Crown Prince while grilling bacon over a sterno on stage.
Sounds like a good way to disappear and be hacked to bits with a bonesaw, tbh.
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Bill Burr is disappointing tbh. Pete Davidson's involvement is disgusting though. Like those mfs killed your dad lol
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Bill Burr is disappointing tbh. Pete Davidson's involvement is disgusting though. Like those mfs killed your dad lol

I thought we accepted that 9/11 was the fault of Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda with Taliban backing
Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen
At least some of them have the balls to admit they have no morals and only care about the money, I guess
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While its really wild that out of the lineup Pete Davidson could accept I actually appreciate the fact he didnt try to spin it like its about free speech or connecting to the world or anything. He was basically 100% just like I saw the amount and I was willing to overlook everything. Like hate it all you want but he didnt try to dress it up.

Also totally different subject but one of the most fascinating documentaries I watched was The Lost Leonardo and the money the Saudi Prince was willing to spend on a painting that has basically disappeared really just shows you how much wealth is there.
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LightSnake posted...
I thought we accepted that 9/11 was the fault of Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda with Taliban backing

Yes there's no evidence Saudi Arabia funded Al-Qaeda at least not during 9/11. If they ever did fund them at all, it was years earlier.
It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Yes there's no evidence Saudi Arabia funded Al-Qaeda at least not during 9/11. If they ever did fund them at all, it was years earlier.

Yeah, Bin Laden was a wanted criminal in saudi Arabia long before 9/11
Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen
Saudi citizens funded and participated in 9/11 but apparently theres no proof the Saudi government did anything
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Asherlee10 posted...
Got it - I see what you mean and I agree.

I am certainly not "impossibly rich," but we are certainly very comfortable.

the questions you need to ask your self are

1 can you get a job with another company that is less shady

2 can you retire with your current savings

3 is it worth the discomfort its making you feel
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That's the sad thing isn't it? Not all comedians are rich (not sure wtf Bill Burr is doing lol). If they got a chance to sell their souls, it's like why wouldn't they? Either work for pennies or exposure for 20 years for the same money or take the money and probably effectively disappear from the US.

I just wish people were more enraged by any other entities in other areas saying yes to Saudis, like 99% of the esports world and the sports world pretty much entirely capitulating to money.

The other problem is the people en masse even watching these events. The esports one didn't get as many views as their standard affair, but it wasn't like a drastically lower %. It was more like 60/40.
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Respect for taking the cash.

most of them have probably fought the man enough times to the point where a big payday is due especially considering the economy is fucked with big orange man in charge.
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I completely agree. It feels especially egregious with comedians, though, as they're constantly primping themselves
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I'm fine with them taking the money. Can't pass up a big pay day that won't actually legitimize the regime in the long-run.
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Dungeater posted...
this is one of the most disgustingly weak things ive ever read in my life.
I almost respect that he's so outright open about it.

Like, he's a slimy little fuck, but at least now we know he's willing to accept weregild for the murder of a family member.
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Guys, come on, the Saudis didn't kill Pete Davidson's father. Al-Qaeda hates the Kingdom
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AsucaHayashi posted...
Respect for taking the cash.

most of them have probably fought the man enough times to the point where a big payday is due especially considering the economy is fucked with big orange man in charge.

Most of the comedians are already wealthy and the orange man/US government is strongly tied with the Saudis.
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People really surprised a douchebag like Pete Davidson would do it anyway
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