I might be remembering wrong, man I was back in college during the time of the brief Dem Congress, but I do recall those two fucking up votes for Biden's more progressive proposals.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/cbd33f12.jpg
I might be remembering wrong, man I was back in college during the time of the brief Dem Congress, but I do recall those two fucking up votes for Biden's more progressive proposals.
People like you rally others to not vote or pushing then to go 3rd party.
People like us keep voting for shit Dems like this that sell us outWe agree, and those shit Dems who caved need to be primaried.
People like us keep voting for shit Dems like this that sell us out and then people like you blame us for not liking it.Which of these did you vote for?
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/cbd33f12.jpgYeah that is what I mean. I'm seeing examples on Google but Imma be real I'm cozy in bed on my phone and don't feel up to grabbing links but like I'm pretty sure.
Because people like you disingenuous rally people to "both sides bad so why bother vote." Your literal disingenuous argument as we speak is to blame and rally around the entire party dropped the ball instead of rallying behind the actual less than 10 who need to be removed for dropping the ball.I dunno dude, it feels like an unimportant distinction to me. The party is in trouble, this isn't even the first time this happened this year. I said some harsh things after the election because I was angry but you seem to be grinding some weird axe against me.
People like you rally others to not vote or pushing then to go 3rd party.
DrizztLink posted...
Done.
Thank you.
Yeah that is what I mean. I'm seeing examples on Google but Imma be real I'm cozy in bed on my phone and don't feel up to grabbing links but like I'm pretty sure.
There were issues, but it wasn't like this. They were stubborn assholes, but a lot of good stuff got passed through them. There's a big difference between "how good can we make this bill" versus "will healthcare subsidies still be paid?"Oh yeah I'm not trying to say they're exactly the same but that there is a trend of there being just enough Democrats to flip on a vote the party supports to keep it from going through. But back then was smaller potatoes compared to now.
Manchin actually lied to McConnell at one point that he didn't support the infrastructure bill so McConnell would let the GOP vote for it on the floor. Manchin switched his vote to a yes and the bill passed
Which of these did you vote for?
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/717dcf9d.jpg
DrizztLink posted...Its an important distinction because theres a vast difference between specific Democrats caving and fucking people over, and claiming the entire party caved.... which is not actually true.
Done.
Thank you.
Yeah that is what I mean. I'm seeing examples on Google but Imma be real I'm cozy in bed on my phone and don't feel up to grabbing links but like I'm pretty sure.
I dunno dude, it feels like an unimportant distinction to me. The party is in trouble, this isn't even the first time this happened this year. I said some harsh things after the election because I was angry but you seem to be grinding some weird axe against me.
Its an important distinction because theres a vast difference between specific Democrats caving and fucking people over, and claiming the entire party caved.... which is not actually true.
The former is specific, the latter disingenuously generalizes to perpetuate the "both sides bad, why bother vote/we should go 3rd party" problem. The former says we need to hold specific problematic Democrats accountable for fucking up.
Why are you more concerned with this distinction than the 7 Dems who betrayed the nation?Here lies why I say your disingenuous.
Here lies why I say your disingenuous.So why aren't you doing that? You're only talking about me.
Reread what you actually asked.
The distinction is literally focus on the 7, not disingenuously claim its the entire party like you are doing.
So why aren't you doing that? You're only talking about me.My first post literally said to focus on the 7.
My first post literally said to focus on the 7.Yeah yeah I know, but like, the vast majority of your posts have been about me, so like, I think that they should be about the thing you're really concerned about instead.
You replied to me and said not the 7, but the entire party.
Yeah yeah I know, but like, the vast majority of your posts have been about me, so like, I think that they should be about the thing you're really concerned about instead.My first post literally said to focus on the 7.
I never said not to blame the 7, not sure why you keep saying I didYou literally didnt read my post based on this response.
This is a failure of every Democrat in the senate. That they couldnt keep their people in line, that the leadership they chose failed.Government workers weren't getting paid and Republicans don't care. Dems had to consider them in this political calculus. Calling it a failure is a bit much.
Schumer has long since showed his ass so if they had put someone in charge who actually gives a fuck long ago maybe this would have gone differently
senate dems and by extension the entire party owns this
Yeah yeah I know, but like, the vast majority of your posts have been about me, so like, I think that they should be about the thing you're really concerned about instead.Remember when he said you are disingenuous?
Remember when he said you are disingenuous?I really don't want to get into a thing so I'll say this and leave it, asdf if I recall has pointed out that I spend more time criticizing the Dems than Republicans. I find that he spends more time arguing with leftists and playing defense for the Dems than criticizing Republicans or holding Dems accountable. Though on both cases a lot of it is just responding back to people.
Well right here you are proving him correct.
Government workers weren't getting paid and Republicans don't care. Dems had to consider them in this political calculus. Calling it a failure is a bit much.This is a complete and total failure in all aspects
I'm not even thinking about the midterms at the moment. I'm just baffled and honestly feel like a moron for having faith in the Dems for once.
I genuinely feel like I'm living in an episode of the twilight zone.
It did happen with Manchin and Sinema during the brief super majority. Which is part of why it seems like there is always just enough, even when the Dems control Congress.There never was a "super majority".
it's weird how there's always exactly enough democrats caving to pass unpopular things, and there's always exactly too few republicans voting against their party
And I still think we should damn well primary other Dems and oust Schumer from leadership over it. I just wish we could have primaries without unserious clowns as the insurgents.
This is a complete and total failure in all aspectsand it will be blasted all over media
the people suffered, and they achieved nothing
and now the optics are that is was the dems fault all along
this give republicans a total win
Yeah, that's the thing that sucks about it. It's like when people screech about how the 2 party system sucks and if we all just band together and vote 3rd party it'll super duper totally fix things.... then those 3rd party people are Jill Stein and Gary Johnson.
Or we get people like Graham Platner and complete jokes.Shes running again btw.
We had to wear Cori Bush and Jamaal Bowman like an albatross for two years because they were unserious clowns who did damage to the party on a national level. Cori Bush was a legit crazy person who claimed she cured cancer with faith healing
Shes running again btw.
So it really was the Democrat shutdown after all.That's what it looks like. Seems like all those Hatch Act violations were correct to blame them.
Or we get people like Graham Platner and complete jokes.
We had to wear Cori Bush and Jamaal Bowman like an albatross for two years because they were unserious clowns who did damage to the party on a national level. Cori Bush was a legit crazy person who claimed she cured cancer with faith healing
I noticed you have a hyper fixation for progressive politicians.
What do we think of Hakeem Jeffries? I saw him punk out some dude, told him to shut his mouth looking him right in the eye. Kinda enjoyed that