Best Soulslike that isn't from From Software

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Hollow Knight on this poll feels like cheating, it's mostly a different genre and its playrate is way higher

But also the correct answer is Lies of P
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Is Tunic really a soulslike? It has elements but its more a zelda clone imo
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KamikazePotato posted...
Hollow Knight on this poll feels like cheating, it's mostly a different genre and its playrate is way higher

But also the correct answer is Lies of P

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That said, salt and sanctuary/ sacrifice are both very good and i highly recommend them both
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I was a bit iffy on Hollow Knight and Tunic, but the influence on both titles is pretty obvious so it felt worth including.
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Not sure why Hollow Knight is here but that won't stop me from voting for it
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Lies of P.

Hollow Knight is maybe the most overrated game of the last decade. It's good, but way overstays its welcome.
MZero posted...
Not sure why Hollow Knight is here but that won't stop me from voting for it

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I haven't even played it yet and still voted Lies of P.
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KamikazePotato posted...
Hollow Knight on this poll feels like cheating, it's mostly a different genre and its playrate is way higher

But also the correct answer is Lies of P

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I voted Lies of P. Just beat it yesterday. Incredible stuff.

Hollow Knight I like better, but idk, doesn't really fit in the same regard to me.
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Hollow Knight is definitely not a souls-like, especially when compared to actual 2D souls-likes like Grime, Moonscars, and Death's Gambit

But I did vote for it anyway
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I'd say Hollow Knight counts (inb4 actually it's a Bloodbornelike), but it does feel weird because 2D "soulslikes" are almost always also Metroidvanias.

Shoutouts to Jedi: Fallen Order though, perfect 7/10 game, very fun
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Hollow Knight is a soulslike aesthetically. The gameplay isn't the same (it's profoundly better tbh) but it's impossible to deny the influence dark souls had on it. It belongs imo
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Salt and Sanctuary is an actual 2D Soulslike game. Hollow Knight is a straight up Metroidvania with a straight up FromSoft plot and look. Like way more a FromSoft aesthetic in that regard than most of these Soulslikes.
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Nioh would be great but it's difficult to the point of just not being fun
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Lies of P easily
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Dark Souls is a Metroidlike so yeah Hollow Knight is Soulslike
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Dang, didn't realize Lies of P was that popular on this board.
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Big_Bob posted...
Dang, didn't realize Lies of P was that popular on this board.
No, the defenders assured me it wasn't popular at all and very underrated
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Haven't played Lies of P yet but Nioh 2 has some of the best combat I've ever seen in a video game. Just such an absolutely insanely fun system and it's a bummer that Team Ninja has yet to match it again in all of this time and a solid handful of releases now.
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there's a lot of metroidvanias that definitely actively feel like they take as much inspiration from souls (or else just other metroidvanias that that do) tbh, i feel like you could've easily fit a blasphemous game or grime here too, and arguably even ender lilies or dead cells. i'm even pretty sure if you did a steam tag search on both you'd get a pretty hefty chunk of all metroidvanias in the last decade, and i wouldn't actually disagree with them

anyway i guess this is a pretty difficult call for me since i don't tend to play many since i manage to get too motion sick for a lot of 3d games, which is kind of why i can say more about metroidvanias, and ac6 (which is more pick up and play because of its mission structure) is probably my favourite """soulslike""" overall. i wonder if rise of the ronin is good
Fallen Order is also a metroidvania. With elements of Uncharted and Sekiro, the only thing it really got from Dark Souls is the bonfire system. Which doesn't even make sense in a Star Wars context.
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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
I'd say Hollow Knight counts (inb4 actually it's a Bloodbornelike), but it does feel weird because 2D "soulslikes" are almost always also Metroidvanias.

Shoutouts to Jedi: Fallen Order though, perfect 7/10 game, very fun
Dark Souls itself is a Metroidvania, so it's not just the 2D ones.
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Hmm... does Kena: Bridge of Spirits count?
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CassandraCain posted...
Fallen Order is also a metroidvania. With elements of Uncharted and Sekiro, the only thing it really got from Dark Souls is the bonfire system. Which doesn't even make sense in a Star Wars context.

This is splitting hairs but I don't really think it took anything from Sekiro considering they both came out the same year. Seems more likely they started with Souls-inspired combat and ended up independently coming up with a very similar samurai parry system
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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
Seems more likely they started with Souls-inspired combat and ended up independently coming up with a very similar samurai parry system

I find that hard to believe considering how similar it is to Sekiro combat. Along with the posture bar. But I guess it's not impossible they developed a similar system on accident, that's a crazy coincidence if so. I'm more willing to believe they saw early footage of Sekiro and decided to copy it.

However yes it is splitting hairs, which is what we're doing with Hollow Knight too. Just wanted to point that out.
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Hbthebattle posted...
Dark Souls itself is a Metroidvania, so it's not just the 2D ones.
It is a nebulous classification for sure. Anything with a semblance of open concept gets filed as a Metroidvania. But your only roadblocks are the path itself and what you can boil down to a glorified key for a glorified door, except often without the glorified part. Then there's DS3 that flies in the face of even that, so there's definitely at least some distinction between the two to be made.

UF8 posted...
dead cells
Unironically more of a Soulslike than Hollow Knight.
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as someone who usually abuses multiplayer in souls games, Code Vein was a pretty fun take on the genre
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kevwaffles posted...
It is a nebulous classification for sure. Anything with a semblance of open concept gets filed as a Metroidvania. But your only roadblocks are the path itself and what you can boil down to a glorified key for a glorified door, except often without the glorified part. Then there's DS3 that flies in the face of even that, so there's definitely at least some distinction between the two to be made.
Yeah I agree. I can see the argument but Dark Souls doesn't really do movement upgrades and that's a pretty important part of the Metroidvania DNA. Not having a map is also fairly damning tbh
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Kenri posted...
I can see the argument but Dark Souls doesn't really do movement upgrades and that's a pretty important part of the Metroidvania DNA
Understanding how to jump is essentially an upgrade that you get after ~15 hours of gameplay
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tazzyboyishere posted...
I voted Lies of P. Just beat it yesterday. Incredible stuff.

Hollow Knight I like better, but idk, doesn't really fit in the same regard to me.

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Kenri posted...
Yeah I agree. I can see the argument but Dark Souls doesn't really do movement upgrades and that's a pretty important part of the Metroidvania DNA. Not having a map is also fairly damning tbh

Concur with this. There's roughly three schools of Metroidvania and, amusingly enough, Dark Souls is closest to Hollow Knight's more than the other two (the other two being of course Metroid and Castlevania). Even then though, HK's Castlevania and Megaman Zero DNA is almost as pronounced in its gameplay as the Dark Souls influence is in its aesthetics, so it's not that similar.
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Lies of P. Hollow Knight doesn't really strike me as a "Soulslike" as others have said. Both are great though.
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KanzarisKelshen posted...
it's impossible to deny the influence dark souls had on it.

The devs had never played Dark Souls when they made the game.
Only the exceptions can be exceptional.
azuarc posted...
The devs had never played Dark Souls when they made the game.
I mean Swery also says he never watched Twin Peaks.
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Grand_Kirby posted...
Is The Legend of Zelda a Metroidvania?

I consider it one, tbh. Or at least LTTP. I've never played Zelda 1 past a few minutes in a department store when I was like 7 and would get my ass handed to me by the first octoroks.
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Grand_Kirby posted...
Is The Legend of Zelda a Metroidvania?
officially as per like 2005 wikipedia entry conventions, metroidvanias are explicitly 2d platformers to differentiate it from zelda and 3d stuff (and castleroids/castloids are explicitly the term for igarashi's games circa sotn though i guess that term died a fiery death the moment igavania got coined instead)
lol official wikipedia
kevwaffles posted...
I mean Swery also says he never watched Twin Peaks.
They were obviously influenced by Demon's Souls, not Dark Souls.
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MacArrowny posted...
lol official wikipedia
considering it's a fandom term to begin with i think og fan definitions actually can be considered safe for once
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