Lurker > transience

Hello! With the 3DS out, the DS is on its last legs. It's time that we determine the best game on the platform.

Rules:

* You can nominate 10 DS games on your first day (ends 12am EST)
* You can nominate 5 DS games on each subsequent day
* A game is eligible for the contest when it has 5 nominations. More nominations means a higher seed.
* The goal is a 64 game bracket; given the DS's depth I don't think this will be an issue
* Anything is allowed - ports/remakes/collections/whatever. I expect voters will take the game's merits into consideration and not claim Chrono Trigger DS or Super Mario 64 DS to be the best game ever, but if they want to, that's cool too.
* I am open to suggestions on format if people have them.

DS Game lists

Gigantic List of DS Games: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_DS_games
List of DS games by ratings: http://www.gamerankings.com/browse.html?site=ds&cat=0&year=0&numrev=1&sort=0&letter=&search= (probably an easier list to navigate if only because it won't have tons of shovelware. hopefully people don't go into a nerd rage over what games got what review score)

Enjoy! My goal here is to celebrate the Nintendo DS and its large, varied library so hopefully this topic can stay positive.

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xyzzy

whoa, date moved to August 19 in Europe

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-07-08-new-xenoblade-chronicles-release-date

six weeks!

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xyzzy

1. Chrono Trigger
2. Link to the Past
3. Mario 3
4. Pokemon RBY
5. Super Mario 64
6. Mario World
7. Ocarina of Time
7. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations (8-0) – W, 35-20 vs. Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald
8. Resident Evil 4
9. MGS3
10. Super Smash Bros. Melee (6-2) – W, 32-25 vs. #2 Super Mario 64
11. Paper Mario (8-0) – W, 23-17 vs. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
12. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (6-2) – W, 33-20 vs. Pokemon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum
13. Metal Gear Solid (7-1) – W, 33-3 vs. Gunstar Heroes
14. Metroid Prime (7-1) – W, 28-12 vs. Lunar: Silver Star Story
15. Final Fantasy X
16. Super Mario Galaxy 2
17. Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest
18. Super Mario Galaxy
19. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
20. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
21. Super Metroid
22. Super Smash Bros. Brawl (7-1)
23. Batman: Arkham Asylum
24. Final Fantasy VI
25. Twilight Princess

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xyzzy

yep, about 5ish hours. I was excited for it but it kinda disappointed me, at least what I played of it.

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xyzzy

DS has depth, man. I think the one weak point of the system is that it lacks AAA games. outside of maybe PW, there isn't a top-tier game, at least from my perspective. there's no genre-defining action game, no truly great RPG that's not a port, and not really any influential games.

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xyzzy

I just like speed running more than 100%ing.

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xyzzy

bzzt!

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xyzzy

I spend way too much time trying to get an adequate time. I just can't stand having a crappy leaderboard position!

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xyzzy

walking: the game

I wish I found some appeal in Journey. I think it has some great ideas -- super simplicity, embracing the traversal aspect of games, quiet and peaceful co-op, taking in scenery. this is a game that relies very heavily on its one appeal and Journey doesn't seem very fun to just wander. I'd like to try it out just to make sure I'm not missing something.

that said, LTM's argument here is absolute garbage.

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xyzzy

2.5/10

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xyzzy

the thing with Xenoblade is that its appeal isn't really apparent in videos. it's one of those things where you touch it and want to just explore everything. the music kicks in and the expansive environments capture you. it just feels good in a way that most modern RPGs don't these days.

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xyzzy

apparently, impressions based on gameplay videos are not allowed and people should just buy games randomly based on their name!

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xyzzy

actual gameplay starts about a minute in, not just scenery

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xyzzy

I was playing on 360 controller today. it's just too much of a bother to set it up for a quick 10 minute gaming session. I was mostly just title grabbing anyway and that doesn't take much skill.

I need some kind of title faq.

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xyzzy

I'm doing this too. I'll also make 1001 because it looks cool.

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xyzzy

damnable! it's like I could only play it on day 1

I'll get it back

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xyzzy

...and by that I mean Hero 30 Second, not HMH XBLA!

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/japanese-walking-half-minute-hero/717053

who doesn't want to play this masterpiece

speaking of HMH XBLA, I finally got to play some more today. beat a couple more quests (and some of Kleenex's and Icehawk's times!)

best game

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xyzzy

speaking of which, I wonder what this is



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xyzzy

eh, star fox 64

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xyzzy

I haven't even bothered to look at it. it never really appealed to me but if it comes out here (still not a guarantee) then I'll play it. it looks a bit more interactive than recent FF games anyway.

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xyzzy

I see that one got delayed to Fall today! Square'd

80% complete, though, that's cool

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xyzzy

I'm okay with 13, but the video just seemed like more of the same. FF13's thing was all style and no substance, and that video seems to be just taking the original formula and pushing it to 11 instead of actually mixing things up and trying something new.

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xyzzy

no kidding

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xyzzy

Battletoads (Brawl for Broke Conference)
Half-Life 2 (Sonic Overload Conference)
Portal (Patriot Time Portals Conference)
Suikoden V (Patriot Time Portals Conference)
Worms: Armageddon (Patriot Time Portals Conference)
Hotel Dusk: Room 215 (Smackdown Hotel Conference)
Chrono Cross (Sonic Overload Conference)
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (Patriot Time Portals Conference)
F-Zero GX (Patriot Time Portals Conference)
Sonic CD (Sonic Overload Conference)
Demon's Souls (Zelda Overload Conference)
Fire Emblem 7 (Smackdown Hotel Conference)
Gears of War 2 (Zelda Overload Conference)
#10 Super Metroid (Nintendo Objections Conference)

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xyzzy

http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/34144

what does everyone think of this? I don't know why but it cracks me up. it looks so cool but then it's just waiting for ATB gauges to fill up.

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xyzzy

just accepted a bunch of old friend requests I didn't even know I had

my times are sliding down the leaderboard. still #1 on quest 11 though. damn you smartguy for barely beating my time on that sleeping evil lord level

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xyzzy

okay, quest 13 down (more like 18 but whatever). #1 on a couple of the stages. I'm currently two seconds ahead of #2 on quest 11. that'll last about 3 hours.

too bad I won't be able to play again until Sunday at the earliest, argh

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xyzzy

woo beat Evil Lord, what a ***** he is

thank god I have a fight pad because otherwise this game would be kinda unplayable

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xyzzy

this is good news. I'd rather him be employed than on the outs at square

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xyzzy

ha-ha, beat you by .4 seconds on quest 4

bug swatter the best

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xyzzy

alright screw this I'm busting out my sf4 fight pad

damm you 360 controller

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xyzzy

whoa, you can race your ghost when you retry a level. that's awesome.

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xyzzy

this is kinda awkward on an analog stick.

hmm, I should use my arcade stick! this is like an arcade game after all

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xyzzy

it's up! 327 mb

http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/Product/HALF-MINUTE-HERO-Super-Mega-Neo-Climax/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d80258410b3d?cid=search

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xyzzy

it felt a lot less natural than the nub. it's probably okay once you get used to it but I found it less functional.

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xyzzy

I played a 3ds today for the first time. first impression on approximately 75 seconds of gameplay: wow, the slide pad is really awful. I bet you get used to it but for someone who's used to just tilting the analog stick lightly, it was pretty jarring. 3d is pretty much as expected.

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xyzzy

once you leave DQ8 it's tough to pick it back up. it took me a couple years to get back to it.

game is really good if you can handle its size.

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xyzzy

I listened to that podcast. he didn't confirm anything besides hinting at Move support. shock and awe.

DQ6 has some seriously stupid trigger points. when you have to hit a FAQ to figure out where to go in a town, something is wrong.

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xyzzy

AC2 beat Silent Hill 2 by one vote. that ain't gettin' ranked unless there's a damn good reason for it to get votes.

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xyzzy

so basically, it's

438 - Chrono Trigger
425 - Super Mario 64
417 - Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow

372 - The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
367 - The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past

324 - Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
320 - Super Mario Bros. 3

306 - Super Mario World
305 - Resident Evil 4

271 - Super Metroid
251 - Super Smash Bros. Brawl

229 - Super Mario Galaxy 2
221 - Super Smash Bros. Melee
215 - Paper Mario
215 - Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations

160 - Final Fantasy X
143 - The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
133 - Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
128 - Metal Gear Solid

78 - Super Mario Galaxy
64 - Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
63 - Metroid Prime
58 - Tales of Symphonia
51 - Final Fantasy VII
48 - Final Fantasy IX

that's kinda interesting.

I always thought it was weird that MGS3 was getting rated so far ahead of RE4. those two games seem equal to me. it's probably just one point on everyone's ballot but when Mario 3/World are between them it looks wrong.

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xyzzy

I heard the 360 version was smoother.

reason the demo was good was because it was Green Hill Zone!

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xyzzy

it's weird. I don't really consider myself a big DQ fan but this is probably my 13th DQ game or so. 1-9, DQM1-4 (with 5 on the way), Rocket Slime. 5 of those games probably crack my top 100, too.

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xyzzy

what's that? 4-5-6?

I never hear anybody talk about 6 at all. I literally know nothing about it besides class system and Link to the Past.

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xyzzy

started playing dq6. I'm enjoying this more than I thought I would.

- game starts out surprisingly story-heavy
- it's kinda weird with no real party members. there's this assumed character that you take on that's not really communicated to you very well.
- light/dark world zone
- I hate how you can't use the touch screen to advance text. I do that in most of my DS RPGs.
- battles are so very fast compared to the slogfests that are dq8 and dq9. none of this wasted time with animations.

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xyzzy

yessss

http://www.play.com/Games/PSP/4-/20463201/Half-Minute-Hero-2/Product.html
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Half-Minute-Hero-Sony-PSP/dp/B0054J10TC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1308578432&sr=1-1

Europe's killing it lately. first Xenoblade, now HMH2

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xyzzy

lol nostalgia

I remember that game

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xyzzy

you get into my s2 suffering more than anyone else in the world combined !

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xyzzy

screw you

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xyzzy

I'm looking for a good handheld one actually! I want to play a DQ game, kinda, but it's 8 I want to play and screw sitting in front of a tv for 60 hours. maybe I'll try DQ5 again after I finish up AAI.

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xyzzy

hrm. I feel like playing an RPG.

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xyzzy