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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 9: And I Will Always Love You
MZero
03/04/24 12:43:34 AM
#10
Actually there is something pinging me about Kirby that I kind of glossed over before

Can you guess what it is Lopen?

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 9: And I Will Always Love You
MZero
03/04/24 12:28:41 AM
#4
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Mzero would you feel better if I showed the back and forth with Chris it literally wasn't much.

I said some but in reality it wasn't alot.

Idk why I thought I needed to hide some info from that chat. I mean like I said earlier I didn't even want to claim I was slept with to save Town from claiming its probably last unclaimed power role.

Sorry I missed this. Yeah let's see it imo

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 9: And I Will Always Love You
MZero
03/04/24 12:21:35 AM
#3
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Litterally not true

TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Their is no way to put any pressure on anyone this game you can't even vote but if i and a vig shot I would have shot Kirby already.

These two statements contradict each other? You said it's not true that you haven't pushed a scum read and then said there's no way to pressure anyone

TheSultanOfSlam posted...
I've been spending more time defending myself against bad arguments and some clarifications I've been having no time to scum hunt I must have been on the right track somewhere to get distracted but idk

And here again you said you haven't been able to scum hunt because you're defending yourself, which 1) means you haven't been pushing scum reads and 2) have been pressured, so it's not impossible

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TopicKill My Gen 1 Pokemon
MZero
03/03/24 11:53:30 PM
#186
Mewtwo59 posted...
A lot of the Gen 1 Pokmon have dumb Japanese names like that.

Beedrill - Spear
Scyther - Strike
Charmeleon - Lizard
Raticate - Rat
Magnemite - Coil
Haunter - Ghost
Drowzee - Sleep
Krabby - Crab
Moltres - Fire
Zapdos - Thunder
Jolteon - Thunders

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 8: You Give Love a Bad Name
MZero
03/03/24 11:45:10 PM
#446
Kirby321 posted...
Was Lopen in Paper Mario Mafia, by any chance, MZero? Wondering if you happened to pick up any insight on him from that game.

He was my co-host actually

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 8: You Give Love a Bad Name
MZero
03/03/24 11:37:50 PM
#444
Even putting everything else aside, the fact that Sultan has yet to push a single scum read all game is concerning. Instead he's like "you guys are dumb I'm amazing at this game" which is unlike any Sultan I've ever seen before

I gave him a pass at first because it's a weird format but he should something better than PoE at this point

Go read Paper Mario. He was applying pressure everywhere and when he got lynched he didn't really lash out like this

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 8: You Give Love a Bad Name
MZero
03/03/24 11:34:17 PM
#443
I understandnot wanting to kill Sultan today but LOCK town is a head scratcher

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 8: You Give Love a Bad Name
MZero
03/03/24 11:26:34 PM
#441
Lopen posted...
Power wolfing

after reading some of YGO Mafia power wolfing does not appear to in Scum Kirby's tool box

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 8: You Give Love a Bad Name
MZero
03/03/24 11:03:45 PM
#434
Isquen, though, I'm okay with lynching if he's just going to peace out. I know he does this every game, and I know it's lazy, but it's frustrating to deal with. Only problem is that his lynch doesn't tell us much if he flips scum, but a dead scum is still a victory regardless. Though I'm not sure what else we get out of an Isquen lynch if he flips town.

Kirby, Paper Mario Mafia

Similar vibe, not really reading him scum but "he's frustrating to deal with"

he voted Isquen in this same post btw

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 8: You Give Love a Bad Name
MZero
03/03/24 10:53:26 PM
#431
Oh and by the way, in response to the whole Rule of Lopen stuff, town says "let's lynch x even though they're town" all the time. Probably more than scum does as scum is more concerned about looking bad whereas town sometimes get emotional and flips out

I do it all the time when Ulti starts doing his "you all suck and i'm saving screenshots" rants. Hell I think I did it this game

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 8: You Give Love a Bad Name
MZero
03/03/24 10:49:12 PM
#430
Oh yeah and also Kirby was claimed vanilla so the chance of hitting power/getting a claim was there as well

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 8: You Give Love a Bad Name
MZero
03/03/24 10:46:51 PM
#428
think Peaf thought that by saving Kirby, one of two things would happen. If Kirby died first, Peaf looks good. If he died first, Kirby would get sussed. Kirby almost died yesterday so this almost worked

I think the reason he felt comfortable doing this is that everyone in the final group was town, so saving Kirby for some town cred didn't matter because another town would just die anyway. Thus, I think the remaining scum can be found in the players who were comfortably matched up, who wouldn't even be pressured into breaking up and have to worry about suspicion if they refused

Chris - death was not around
Ulti - red probably wasn't around and wouldn't have broke things off anyway
Sultan/MZero - I was snoozing. For fairness I will include myself as well
Corrik/Isquen - partnered up just before the mayhem. Corrik is claimed deputy so he can be taken out

If Kirby is town, I think scum is in Chris/Ulti/Sultan/Isquen. I've explained why I don't think it's Ulti or Isquen, but they are technically still in play.

I literally posted this earlier in this very topic

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 8: You Give Love a Bad Name
MZero
03/03/24 10:39:41 PM
#422
Lopen posted...
Wheel of names is done spinning and I think it's Mzero + Kirby

So I guess Chris was right. Damn good game from Mzero here.

The blunder you made was making too much sense across the board. It makes it harder to accept the illogical takes like "Peaf just went nuts and put himself out there with a bunch of town for no reason"

Other people don't like me or aren't reading the game. You don't have that excuse.

I didn't say for no reason. I said to make himself look good or Kirby look bad later cause they were getting a mislynch either way. and you've literally been proving my point by tunneling Kirby yesterday and today lol

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 8: You Give Love a Bad Name
MZero
03/03/24 10:37:09 PM
#417
Lopen posted...
I openly townread you at the point and saw you as a mislynch because of Chris's force of personality

Kirby just has one out for giggles it seems

Dude Kirby has town read me multiple times and mentioned that I made good points against Sultan

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 8: You Give Love a Bad Name
MZero
03/03/24 10:31:44 PM
#409
Lopen posted...
Kirby also randomly has a date request out to Mzero right now which is pinging me.

didn't you send me a date request too lmao

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 8: You Give Love a Bad Name
MZero
03/03/24 10:28:16 PM
#408
Lopen posted...
I've not said to lynch any of them because they're town though.

technically you also advocated lynching yourself so...!

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 8: You Give Love a Bad Name
MZero
03/03/24 10:27:37 PM
#406
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
I can't get past how 2 players litterally spent the whole day saying I was shackled to Ulti when I was never with Ulti.

Dumey and Kirby... coincidence?

Ulti said he was never letting you die

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 8: You Give Love a Bad Name
MZero
03/03/24 10:25:59 PM
#404
Lopen posted...
He has been basically up for lynching anybody including multiple people he has said "when they flip town" about

Also I'm pretty sure you've suggested lynching more players than Kirby has today lol

Chris, Sultan, Ulti, Kirby, Me

I think maybe even some Dumey early in the day

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 8: You Give Love a Bad Name
MZero
03/03/24 10:23:47 PM
#402
Lopen posted...
Isn't that literally what I just said Kirby is doing?

I mean not making an argument for lynching anyone. Kirby at least has explained why he wanted to lynch each of his candidates even if they aren't great arguments

Like Sultan, Ulti, and Chris. Sultan has been busy defending himself, but didn't make any pushes day 1 or 2 either. Ulti basically just said don't kill Sultan or Ulti. Chris said to lynch me because "I said so" and tried to clear Sultan

at least Kirby is trying

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 8: You Give Love a Bad Name
MZero
03/03/24 10:16:53 PM
#396
Lopen posted...
You have to take Kirby's play today as a little suspect though?

He has been basically up for lynching anybody including multiple people he has said "when they flip town" about

I get what your saying but it's kind of weird for scum to be that brash? Like, you don't even need to push mislynches in this game. Just try and get a date and maybe keep heat of your partner

That's why I'm much more suspicious of players who don't seem to care much who dies and are more concerned with keeping people alive

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 8: You Give Love a Bad Name
MZero
03/03/24 10:13:37 PM
#394
Lopen posted...
OMGUS specifically is saying "oh my god you suck" because they suck for suspecting you. Not because they're having a bad game.

I always thought it was Oh my god ur scum

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 8: You Give Love a Bad Name
MZero
03/03/24 10:12:55 PM
#392
I mean Peaf looks *good if Kirby dies first

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 8: You Give Love a Bad Name
MZero
03/03/24 10:12:27 PM
#389
Lopen posted...
I could see Kirby bussing yes. Have said this from the beginning

I think FD, the guy who Kirby was pining for being out there is what threw a wrench into the plan

Peaf and Kirby would both look really bad if FD is not paired with-- possibly a blunder but I have long said that Peaf only ever makes that swap if

Dumey is scum (gambit)
Or
Kirby is scum (rescue mission)

It has no logic otherwise

Peaf had committed to the Kirby town read at that point and kind of had to save him

I stand by my interpretation. It was all town at the end aside from peaf. Scum was safely paired so scum didn't care who died.

Peaf saves Kirby. Kirby looks bad if Peaf dies first, Peaf looks bad if Kirby dies first. He probably didn't expect to die Day 1 but that first scenario is exactly what's happening here

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 8: You Give Love a Bad Name
MZero
03/03/24 10:09:36 PM
#387
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
It's litterally haha you dayed your scum read you suck it's OMGUs bull shit

I presented a lot of arguments that have nothing to do with your dating history. Also I don't think you know what OMGUS means. OMGUS is suspecting someone because they suspected you, which no one is doing... or even could be doing because you haven't really pushed any scum reads

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 8: You Give Love a Bad Name
MZero
03/03/24 10:03:18 PM
#381
Lopen posted...
This actually makes you look worse in a way

If he is peacing out does that not imply the understood gameplan is for you to accept his date?

do you think Kirby just stabbed Peaf in the back like that?

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 8: You Give Love a Bad Name
MZero
03/03/24 9:17:10 PM
#346
Honestly Lea died because she decided too. She had opportunities to save herself and just didn't

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TopicVG Character of the 2000s: Zidane Tribal vs. Midna | Victor Sullivan vs. Shadow
MZero
03/03/24 8:38:19 PM
#4
Midna
Shadow

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 8: You Give Love a Bad Name
MZero
03/03/24 8:25:49 PM
#326
SirChris posted...
this game: I'm just lost on how to talk to someone who keeps going in circles about godfather prosty in a way that doesnt hurt my brain.

you could start by answering why you didn't try to date claimed vanillas as a town prosty and instead went for unclaimeds

also earlier in this game to both Dumey (I think) and myself when we defended ourselves against you were like "why are you mad it's not like I can kill you lol" so the fact that you're acting like this when no one is going to let you die anyway is pretty ironic

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TopicKill My Gen 1 Pokemon
MZero
03/03/24 8:10:24 PM
#138
Rhyhorn

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 8: You Give Love a Bad Name
MZero
03/03/24 11:29:58 AM
#122
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
holy ducks

lmao

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 8: You Give Love a Bad Name
MZero
03/03/24 11:29:25 AM
#120
Lopen posted...
Unless

1. Chris is scum Godfather Prosty
2. There exists scum Prosty who can sleep with everyone in a room that isn't Chris then they can keep targeting Chris's room with impunity and his claim is "confirmed"

Well I'm not disagreeing with 1, I'm disagree with the "Chris isn't any kind of prosty" possibility

2 I guess it possible but is very convoluted and Chris would be toast if the Prosty flipped

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 8: You Give Love a Bad Name
MZero
03/03/24 11:26:58 AM
#118
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
JC I was back and forth with POE and Scum even from our chat if you remember. Look at My read list in their I had him as scum lean

Sure I member. I even asked you about it, to which you said

TheSultanOfSlam posted...
My mind didn't really change as much as o think my scum lean was more POE than it was an actual scum read.

So yeah, you even admitted that PoE isn't really a scum read

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 8: You Give Love a Bad Name
MZero
03/03/24 11:20:29 AM
#110
Lopen posted...
2. He doesn't have to be Prostitute at all if Sultan is scum.

it would be suicidal to claim it if he's not because he'll be found out tomorrow

and in this case Sultan is scum so had no reason to confirm that he got the slept with message, since I think some hosts don't do that?

either way doesn't really make sense unless they were literally shook so bad they threw up a Hail Mary which I find unlikely. Either way we can leave Chris alive today and if his partner says they weren't slept with, checkmate

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 8: You Give Love a Bad Name
MZero
03/03/24 11:03:44 AM
#98
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Enchantress (Lea)- town Lean
Mzero- Town
Lopen- Town
Chaeix (JC)- POE canidate no true Read
Isquen- same as JC
FD- Seems Towny. His attack on me for being lazy was pretty good
Ulti- idk i want to say this is town Ulti but I'm not 100 sold hence why I accepted the date originally.
Dumey- still think Dumey is pretty towny
Corrik- POE/Null
Red- ??? How many times I've played with red idk how to read red but I think some of his play comes off as towny and is to bold to be scum. Played with scum red he was pretty cautious from what I remember
Sultan- I'm town
Kirby- need a reread tbh
Sir Chris- still got a sinking feeling could be scum

which of these is your other scum read?

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 8: You Give Love a Bad Name
MZero
03/03/24 11:00:58 AM
#97
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Gosh darnit Mzero am I not aloud to think in topic!

gosh darnit is so pure I almost want to town clear you lmao

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 8: You Give Love a Bad Name
MZero
03/03/24 10:58:12 AM
#94
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
I've exsplained it and you guys like no you only Date town reads. Not when you have multiple scum reads/ null reads near the bottom why wouldn't you date someone you know really well mind you, who you think is scum. I was busy end of day if I would have Been around when Chris was scanned Town I would have probably tried to move and have someone else take Chris.
But can't play the what ifs.

dating a scum read is fine but dating your only scum read is weird

like ideally you shouldn't want anyone else dead over them

but we're beating a dead horse now

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 8: You Give Love a Bad Name
MZero
03/03/24 10:51:54 AM
#88
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Both death and I were not claimed. But yeah that would have been a good move to date a claimed vanilla.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Strategy to do weird things such as date a suspect or playing Prosty aggressively in your chat is simple plays come on guys I know you're not this dumb. Either theirs a scum on your bunch or you are playing with your heads cut off

this is a weird 180

it does make you wonder if Chris threatened death to claim saying he was prosty and that's why scum killed him. This requires Godfather Prostitute of course

...I am deep in the rabbit hole

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 8: You Give Love a Bad Name
MZero
03/03/24 10:47:25 AM
#86
Kirby321 posted...
I still don't have any faith in Sultan being town, but I doubt we're gonna make any headway there until Ulti is convinced. Problem is, I don't know who else is scum. I had a feeling at least one of my town reads was scum, but I'm not sure who it could be.

you know what

##Date: Ulti

let's see if he'll stick to his loyalty thing and let Sultan die :P

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 8: You Give Love a Bad Name
MZero
03/03/24 6:37:58 AM
#77
Lopen posted...
Ulti stop being paranoid and lazy and just let me suicide into Chris and Sultan

He is not prosty. His play does not fit prosty.

Town prosty, at least

fits scum prosty like a glove tbh

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 8: You Give Love a Bad Name
MZero
03/03/24 6:37:22 AM
#76
Lopen posted...
Hold on

Hold on

If Chris is Prosty

Why hasn't he been dating claimed vanillas

huh, this is a great catch

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TopicMore hot VGM Trivia action
MZero
03/03/24 6:36:17 AM
#10
Round 1: 12 points Mega Man (1), Pokemon (1), Nier Automata, Persona 3 Reload, Street Fighter 2 (hint), Mario Vs Donkey Kong, Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth
Round 2: 7 points Mario Party (1), Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (hint), Final Fantasy X
Patreon Round: 8 points Twilight Princess, Trails in the Sky, Mario (1), Final Fantasy X, Mario (1)
Round 3: 6 points Shinra HQ - Final Fantasy VII (should have gotten Ori and Odyssey)
Round 4: 16 points Gamecube, Game Boy, Wii, Atari Jaguar (I think I usually plug in my headphones after my PS5 is already on so I never hear it)
Round 5: 2 points KotOR (never played it but it sounded Star Wars-y)
Bonus 2: 0 points I've played none of these games except Minish Cap 20+ years ago

Total: 51 points

Really dropped the ball in Round 3. I was disappointed that City Escape wasn't in there

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 8: You Give Love a Bad Name
MZero
03/03/24 5:27:08 AM
#72
Enchantress posted...
B8 has never understood me and why/how I play mafia, and they never will. It is irritating to deal with miller suspicion all game, so I will not.

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 8: You Give Love a Bad Name
MZero
03/03/24 5:24:51 AM
#71
Kirby extended a date which Lea acknowledge with a meme but didn't accept, then Kirby paired up with red

She said something along the lines of not wanting to put up with Miller meta for the rest of the game or something

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 8: You Give Love a Bad Name
MZero
03/03/24 4:03:54 AM
#68
Corrik7 posted...
Why did lea get killed after red claimed and confirmed her town.

Lea rolled over, she had offers iirc

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 8: You Give Love a Bad Name
MZero
03/03/24 3:46:13 AM
#60
Corrik7 posted...
So reds role was broken. Heh.

do you think scum has a godfather for balance?

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TopicPlaying Persona 3 for the first time (Reload)
MZero
03/03/24 3:43:16 AM
#165
Maxed all S.Links besides Judgement with a week to spare, feels good man

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 8: You Give Love a Bad Name
MZero
03/03/24 3:31:07 AM
#58
The fact that FD has nothing to say about me in that post is concerning

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TopicFill in the Blank 214: The Legend of ___
MZero
03/03/24 2:42:15 AM
#30
Heroes

Surprised that beat out Zelda

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 8: You Give Love a Bad Name
MZero
03/03/24 1:48:08 AM
#52
Oh yeah also I believe Kirby had already claimed vanilla, so added bonus of maybe hitting power instead

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TopicValentine's Day Mafia Topic 8: You Give Love a Bad Name
MZero
03/03/24 1:47:06 AM
#51
I think Peaf thought that by saving Kirby, one of two things would happen. If Kirby died first, Peaf looks good. If he died first, Kirby would get sussed. Kirby almost died yesterday so this almost worked

I think the reason he felt comfortable doing this is that everyone in the final group was town, so saving Kirby for some town cred didn't matter because another town would just die anyway. Thus, I think the remaining scum can be found in the players who were comfortably matched up, who wouldn't even be pressured into breaking up and have to worry about suspicion if they refused

Chris - death was not around
Ulti - red probably wasn't around and wouldn't have broke things off anyway
Sultan/MZero - I was snoozing. For fairness I will include myself as well
Corrik/Isquen - partnered up just before the mayhem. Corrik is claimed deputy so he can be taken out

If Kirby is town, I think scum is in Chris/Ulti/Sultan/Isquen. I've explained why I don't think it's Ulti or Isquen, but they are technically still in play.


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