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I'm sure she's very disappointed /s

mystic_belmont posted...

I wonder if the courts can stop that. It can't be legal to take one department, and change into something completely different, to circumvent the checks and balances.

It isn't legal, but Congress is controlled by MAGA so they won't stop him, the cabinet is MAGA stooges.

The only avenue left is the courts which isn't exactly in our favor either, but could at least stall things.

That and marketing to voters to pressure their congressman to hold Musk and Trump accountable..... but Dem politicians and Dem voters are absolute trash in the messaging department.

Kick out West Virginia from New England. The most far right state in my new country.

Laurentia, think you guys would love this state.

nocturnal_traveler posted...

They're better than the Republicans. Also, every faction that aren't the establishment Dems have the potential to be better.

I wouldn't count you as among the problematic ones.

IceCreamOnStero posted...

Why are progressives, who the democrats have ignored and belittled for ages, responsible for running Biden's campaign and messaging?

Progressives are definitely not solely responsible, but once Biden was the nominee the specific ones joining hands with Republicans to message on "Biden bad" as if Trump was better.... have some responsibility.

Non voters, 3rd party voters and voters who didn't want Trump to win but spent 60 to 90%+ of their time specifically attacks Democrats want no accountability in the role they played. It doesn't work like that.

Elections have consequences regardless. The Democrat General nominee will win or the Republican General nominee will win. Spending months before the General election directing most of your messaging at negatively attacking Democrats only served to help Trump.

Regardless of whatever shortcomings the Democrat nominee has. It doesn't change spending months helping Republicans, and messaging on trying to convince others "they mind as well be the same" or absurd logic akin to it helped Trump.

HylianFox posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/16805ce4.jpg

I'd say that meme isn't accurate.

Democrats have shown they are better at governing. They suck at messaging.

While Republicans suck at governing but better at messaging.

It's easy to sabotage and destroy progress to helping people given how the United States Government works.

Take for example the false narrative that Democrats shifted right. The facts and history shows this is just plain false. Yet Democrat politicians have failed to market on the many things they have accomplished that has shifted the party left. Then you have voters who refuse to take any accountability for making shit worse themselves by promoting a purist ideology.

To add on, Republicans have successfully bred a coalition of left/Dem leaning individuals to regurgitate purist ideologies that if a Democrat has any flaw or agenda that's bad, "they shifted right." Facts and evidence be damned.

Democrats need the numbers in government to pass anything obstruction proof. Yet we have voters who still don't know this, or peddle specific ire to mostly Democrats while ignoring simple basic math showing its not the Democrats blocking and obstructing progress helping average Americans.

Now remember guys. Democrats are the groomers

/s

Cotton_Eye_Joe posted...

fatter, older

Need a lil more specifics.

A lil chubbier and older is no big deal. People tend to look a lil different from their profile pictures and highlight photos. I just expect that.

But coming to a date looking like you added a whole 200 lbs and aged 20 years is another thing entirely.

I get confused for a Mexican sometimes due to my hair and skin tone, but I think I'll be fine for the most part. Without giving my location away, I live in a predominantly black area that's multicultural.

I do feel sorry for the people that aren't.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/c0313058.jpg

How different?

So how did DEI cause this one?

bfslick50 posted...

Reading every job description is hard. Knowing where they have not enough employees vs too many is even harder. Much easier to just ask everyone to quit. Thatll surely give us the small government they want.

That all assumes there's at all a pragmatic plan in the first place.

These are the same people trying to force end of telework, but has no realistic plan to bring everyone back to the office.

chaos_knight posted...

Elon Musk might be America's greatest threat at this rate.

Too late. I'd argue he already is our biggest liability.

They're letting this sociopathic manchild treat the United States Government as his personal playground to fuck up shit.

Granted I find Trump a threat as well. But atm I'm finding Musk to be the bigger problem right now.

Ar0ge posted...

Yes. My wife is a federal worker. OPM is completely compromised and fucked right now. There's a lot of shit going on right now. Take a look at some of the federal worker subreddits.

I'm hearing a lot of things from my wife before it even hits the news, and many other things that aren't even being covered by the media.

Ofc the media isn't covering it. They only clutch their pearls when Democrats do something.

If you don't mind me asking, what particular personal records is Musk getting access to? (Asking as a federal worker myself, but dont answer if it will compromise your wifes job)

Kain_Highwind posted...

Its bad optics no mater how you slice it

Saying "This guy sucks so much that he can't even deport as many as we do" doesn't just make him look weak, it makes you look bad too

And yet those "optics" need not apply to dear leader Trump/Musk.

Pitbuller_26 posted...

I find the 78% to be unacceptable. Needs to get back to the high 80s or low 90s but too many elders are starting to pass away and some of these young men want to be yns.

Doesn't help male rappers who were big in the past are selling out to Trump and Republicans.

I agree that it is very unfortunate to see the number go down to 78%. I also don't support any of the rappers or influencers who support Trump.

That said, let's not go the main stream media route of trying to shame black men when 78% went to Kamala, not Trump. Also a majority of us wasn't out there messaging on telling people not to vote.

Rappers and fringe youtubers are not the majority of us.

Black men were the 2nd highest race demographic that voted for Kamala. Right behind black women.

Cory898 posted...

I didnt say anything about non voters. I said Pro-Palestine protesters probably wish the few of them who sat out had joined them in voting for Kamala.

What I said goes for the Pro Palestine Protestors who promoted staying home, going uncommitted, going 3rd party.

Also the ones that didn't vote are non voters btw.

Humble_Novice posted...

I'm thinking many of them have fallen for the alt-right manosphere being propped up by the almighty algorithm.

There definitely is a rise of propping up black men to seem like we are now right wing.

Despite the statistics showing we voted for Kamala by approx 78%.

Cory898 posted...

Probably wishing that all of them had voted for Kamala instrad of most of them. Not that that stops Humble from blaming that tiny fraction for overturning the entire election. Theyre like DEI is for Trump. A scapegoat to blame for everything.

I wouldn't compare the 2.

The non voters arent blameless in their actions, don't deserve to be coddled flwanting sympathy for their suffering, and they certainly aren't comparable to people who at least tried to stop Trump but now being labeled, "DEI."

LosingStreak06 posted...

TC tacitly admitting he hasnt taken part in any pro-Palestinian demonstrations is one of the biggest self-owns I can imagine. Let me guess, you sat on your computer ceremoniously typing while the Black Lives Matter protests were happening in 2020, too?

How is that a self own on the TC if his point is most of the protestors ever so coincidentally disappeared the moment Trump was elected?

The BLM protestors actually protested against Trump during his presidency.

Kain_Highwind posted...

https://x.com/ChrisMurphyCT/status/1885023609871106126

...I'm not sure "Hey we actually deported more people than Trump" is great messaging but you do you

Not really surprised you are intentionally spinning what he said.

The only people I feel sorry for are the ones that voted for Kamala.

The rest I have no sympathy for. They should be happy since they are getting what they so clearly wanted.

Most of us Black people voted for Kamala. I havent been following this supposed beef if there even is one. Im black, and no one around me is telling latinos to go back to Mexico. Though I admit my experience is anecdotal.

Regardless, if this supposed beef is real, I agree with the video. The latino community needs to start questioning their own community more often as well, not just us black people. My community wasn't the one that voted in Trump to deport you guys.

nocturnal_traveler posted...

If he's bi, why is he only assaulting women?

Your sexuality has very little to do with if one assaults women.

That just makes him a bisexual individual who also happens to assault women.

darkknight109 posted...

I'm sorry, are you unfamiliar with the Never Trump movement? Project Lincoln? Does none of that ring a bell to you?

People think the Republicans are united because they won the last election. Yeah... and they got one of the smallest congressional majorities in history to show for it, so how united were they really?

You aren't making a point.

None of the people you listed changes the Republican majority base falls in line regardless if they aren't madly head over heals for their candidate.

Literally nothing you are talking about changes this beyond you trying to find rational to pretend otherwise. The bottom line is Republicans are more reliable to show up to vote to at the very least make sure Democrats don't win.

It's also not just the last election. It's the last 3 elections. Like it or not Trump changed the political atmosphere drastically, and his cult of a base is far more reliable to vote than ours. Even the people that dont like Trump, but hate Democrats more, will shut their mouths once hes the nominee, and show up election day to vote for the Republican in the general election. They are far less likely to hop on YouTube or Fox to critique how Trump did xyz wrong, and that we are all doomed, and that they will begrudgingly vote for Trump.

Democrats on the other hand in contrast have people far more likely to spend months after the general election is decided tearing down their nominee for flaws and positions they dont like. Being hyper critical about the nominee every step of the way.

darkknight109 posted...

None of those people are Democrats.

And Dems have similarly donated money and ad buys to Libertarian candidates in races where it looked like they might sap support from the Republicans. That's not a Republican thing, that's just a normal feature of "First Past the Post" voting systems.

And?

The topic is about what works for one and not the other.

In this political atmosphere, Democrats are far more divided and more easy to convince to stay home. Republicans are not as easy to convince to stay home general election day.

When Democrats attempt the strategy you speak of, the purity types and wanting to appear fair/balance types among our side use this as more ammo to justify their constant criticism of Democrats during an election. "Earn my vote" being go to, and being confused why people point out this only serves to help Republicans.

There's too many examples to count for Biden and Kamala, that in contrast to Trump would barely even be a blip in the right wing response if he did the same thing.

Republicans absolutely do not do this on the scale that Democrats do it. Fox News, Steve Bannon, and all of the right wing darling media/social media think tanks were not constantly being hyper critical of Trump for months before the election.

In contrast, Democrats constantly had their own "allies" being hyper critical of Biden/Kamala in an attempt to appear fair or above approach. With powerful voices constantly muddying the water. Even popular social media spaces you can try to deem as an ally to us, graded Biden/Kamala far more harshly than it did Trump.

That's not to say Republicans don't have their dysfunction. But where they unfortunately are far less dysfunctional is in winning general elections playing the long game, and more likely to unite in their messaging to make sure a Democrat loses.

Some good might come out of this. So I welcome it.

This was bound to happen. You can't have 2 sociopathic attention whores wanting the spotlight at the same time. Them 2 were bound to clash. The question now is only when will they really have a falling out.

cjsdowg posted...

There literally have already been people protesting Trump

On the scale of what they were doing before the election is what's being addressed. Which itisn't, which is the point.

darkknight109 posted...

No, they're not.

Seriously, one look at the Republican party should tell you this. Republicans are an alliance of convenience of four major groups, none of whom share much common ground beyond their hatred of the Democrats:

-Big Business and the Wealthy, who are in favour of deregulation and low taxes, but otherwise generally favour socially progressive policies (because then the government is paying for things that they would otherwise need to provide for and/or which, if left unaddressed, would impede their ability to accumulate wealth - think healthcare or education).

-The Religious Right, who generally favour socially conservative policies on religion and abortion, but often still favour a strong social safety net for moral reasons.

-"Tea Party"-style far-right - mostly wonks who favour extreme positions on low taxes, privatization of everything, and the removal of as much of the government as possible.

-The MAGA Cult, whose beliefs are whatever Donald Trump says they are at the time. The most fascistic of the group, they favour a large, centralized government (directed at outgroups they don't like), which is against traditional conservative orthodoxy, but they're currently a large enough faction to overrule the old guard. Generally more focused on identity and grievance politics, as well as fighting the culture war, than the other three groups.

These four groups share an uneasy alliance, but one look at Republicans trying to govern (or the slew of Republican voters asking what the fuck Trump is doing right now) should give you some idea as to their (lack of) unity of purpose, as many of their goals are mutually exclusive, if not outright antithetical to one another.

Democrats are more united, because groups further left tend to have a greater appreciation of the needs of the collective than groups on the right, but they also have a larger proportion of "soft"/apathetic voters who don't turn up for them.

Everything you are saying is irrelevant.

At the end of the day they all still morr united behind whoever the Republican General nominee is.

They don't spend months after the primary is over through purity nonsense and moral posturing their own that their general nominee isn't perfect without flaws they disagree with.

Sure they will infight amongst their own, but when it matters on general election night, they show up to at the very least make sure a Democrat doesn't win. Or in their eyes, a radical left communist.

Our side doesn't have that. Especially when it comes to the coalition on our side who loves to morally posture, and campaign specifically on bashing our nominee all the way up until election night. A coalition btw that has a loud megaphone. Loud enough to make Dems lose swing states. Hence the Republican playbook to prop up that mindset including even propping up the likes of Jill Stein, Cornell West and RFK.
@darkknight109

Deej posted...

Republicans don't spend months talking themselves out of voting for their guy (unfortunately)

Also this

What's more unsettling is how will the mad felon clown respond to this.

We don't exactly have a rational adult in the White House.

EPR-radar posted...

That's not what's happening. Nobody is getting shit for saying "US I/P policy was unacceptable under Biden (and has been unacceptable for decades), but vote for Harris anyway because that's the better of two shitty options on I/P".

People are getting shit for saying "I voted/will vote for Harris, perhaps you should also do that, but GENOCIDE JOE KILLER KAMALA GENOCIDE JOE KILLER KAMALA GENOCIDE JOE KILLER KAMALA GENOCIDE JOE KILLER KAMALA GENOCIDE JOE KILLER KAMALA."

That second part cancels out the first part (and honestly makes it incredible on its face).

This, and to add on those same people are as we speak still quiet on Trump. Or, still as we speak primarily focused on "Genocide Joe."

Some of who I think are cosplaying. Given their criticism tends to focus only on Dems or they try to play the "both sides are bad, and here's why not voting or going 3rd party is justified" card.

Heineken14 posted...

Because they are a small tent party that only caters to greed and spite. The Democratic party has many different interests and goals in it so sometimes there are disagreements.

This.

We could dig into the many factions within the large tent that is the Democrat Party, but short version is definitely the above.

Loved those things as a kid because my grandfather always gave me one.

Tried one again out of sheer nostalgia. Spit that shit back out on the first sip.

Taste like chemicals....

I know I'm going to regret asking this. How again does this have anything to do with DEI?

I know the claim is dumb, I'm just trying to follow what specifically are they latching to, to call this DEI.

Happy the guy they wanted to win, won.

You won't see these people investing as much attention on Trump.

Are we blaming DEI yet?

El_Dustino posted...

I don't think anyone who voted for Trump this election deserves sympathy but the gleeful hoping that they suffer and die from some people is very off-putting. And rather Republican like.

I can't speak for others but I will speak for myself.

I'm not hoping for their death. I am however not going to lose sleep over anything happening to them and have no issue pointing out you are getting what you voted for. I also have no problem treating them with no sympathy, or coddleing them as if what they are getting isn't their own fault. Nor will I pretend they hold no blame for any suffering they complain about.

Elections have consequences.

Same level of non existent sympathy from me goes out to the non voters and 3rd party voters who only care about appearing like they care about marginalized groups while they to this day defend helping Trump. Who's much worse.

tb333 posted...

The amount of people on this board who are gonna laugh at people in camps for "doing it to themselvs" disgusts me. Some people got tricked by a conman and many were apathetic. If you think you care about people and the stuff happening now makes you happy no you dont. There is stuff that can still be done and now is a time for action. Can those of us that are not part of a troll farm stop doing this "lol" blame bs and point out the con to those who will listen.

This kind of talk is pretty ironic given the actions of the exact people who shot themselves in the foot, and continue to make excuses why their self inflicted wound was justified. While demanding everyone feel pitty for them shooting themselves in the foot. In fact, defenders of this behavior want us to coddle this behavior.

Sorry not sorry, these people are not blameless in their actions. You can't help people who think they are teaching people some lesson by hurting themselves, to later demand sympathy for an action they are still justifying. You can't help people who claim to support a cause by intentionally trying to sabotage/make life worse for the people they claim to want to help.

The people who supported not voting or going 3rd party actively supported a movement that made life far more worse for the people they claimed to care about all so they can posture as being morally clean. Not voting Kamala regardless of their moral posturing, helped Trump. Regardless of the excuses they tend to present.

Antifar posted...

Every Democrat should be waving this around as a symbol of the deregulation and incompetence to come.

Agreed. But that would mean actually hiring a good marketing team and not letting Republicans control the narrative per usual.

GrandConjuraton posted...

EVERYBODY should know at least Auschwitz.

The fact that they don't is an indictment of our education systems.

To be honest, I don't think this is the thing to hit home on people not remembering.....

The Holocaust being real in the first place is far more important than being able to name a concentration camp....

Being able to name a camp really doesn't amount to much at all if the importance of remembering the atrocities itself happening is lost.

StarFighters76 posted...

Blocking me just proves I'm right lol.

The fact that anyone would block because they dont like hearing what's being said only proves our overall point with non voter defenders.

These people only want an echo chamber safe space where they only interact with people who will forever tell them everything they do is awesome, justified, and morally clean.

They will ask questions about some winning strategy to win them over, but show they aren't actually serious about wanting to be won over. Given through their purist utopian agenda of unless they get everything they want, it's the same as getting nothing to them.

All the while refusing to produce a tangible realistic alternative to the worse option. A bunch of moral posturing and wanting everyone to coddle them for choosing help Trump win during the general election.

Tom_Joad posted...

Hey, it's the "the Democrats are useless and we shouldn't vote for them" thread.

The exact same shit that got Trump elected.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80924317

TC makes many topics like this. Just look at the first page of this forum. It's a theme.

mystic_belmont posted...

This feels like what Musk did.

Also, what happens when the government shuts down?

In theory there would be no shutdown if it was privatized.

Since it would essentially be a company wealthy owned entity. This is what the Heritage Foundation and Musk wants. Not specifically the elimination of shutdowns, but the ability to have complete control of the government through a plutocracy.

I won't be taking this offer. Haven't gotten the email yet, and even if I did it's not worth it.

Only 7 months? Also what guarantee I have this money won't forever be in the mail? Trump isn't exactly reliable on paying people.

I'd advise my fellow federal workers to decline this offer.

LightSnake posted...

At what point are you going to stop with that misleading statistic?

At this point, pretty sure never.

I believe it's intentional hes playing ignorant while doing the very things people are pointing out.

SpiritSephiroth posted...

I think you got the concept mixed up. It's the same universe but a different timeline.

DBS already introduced the multiverse and that's something totally different.

I don't have the concepts mixed up. My issue is DB itself and it's attempt at the concept.

A different timeline is still an introduction to a brand new universe. To call it "time travel" and time travel alone in concept doesn't track since its hopping over to a universe where alternative events happened. The universes or timelines operate independently from one another. Even their history is different in their simultaneous existence.

Especially when factoring how vastly different a universe can become with the butterfly effect, the farther you go back. In theory, we could talk about a timeline with humans never evolving to become a thing, and dinosaurs still roaming around in 2025. Or a timeline where some advanced elephants species evolved to be the dominate intelligent special ruling the planet.

In theory all of those timelines can exist since different events played out, but the concept itself is no different than a different universe. It's certainly wouldn't be the same universe we are in given these hypothetical scenarios have a vastly different history than our own that independent to our history.

FLOUR posted...

I have a better question. Why was she entitled to my vote, especially when there were third party candidates who were way more compatible with my political beliefs?

So what's the better question?

First you have to define porn since that widely varies to some apparently.

Garioshi posted...

Democrats have allowed

I swear some of yall live in a fantasy that doesn't actually know how government or elections work.

"Allowed."

CRON posted...

Crazy how so many people still idolize the man despite him being barely able to communicate. He can't go a single sentence without mumbling and stuttering. That alone should just subject him to endless shame and mockery. Even all the Nazi bullshit aside, there's something so viscerally offensive about Elon trying to imitate how a human talks but not getting it.

I'd argue that alone isn't a reason to mock someone.

The only reason I'd agree to mocking Musk for it is because he's hype up as some intellectual genius when he's not. On top of his list of abhorrent views and agendas.