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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68716467

Michael Macartney, 50, who went by the alias "Torture King", was charged in Virginia with conspiracy to create and distribute animal-crushing videos.

Mr Macartney was one of three key distributors identified by the BBC Eye team during a year-long investigation into sadistic monkey torture groups.

Two women have also been charged in the UK following the investigation.

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Mr Macartney, a former motorcycle gang member who previously spent time in prison, ran several chat groups for monkey torture enthusiasts from around the world on the encrypted messaging app Telegram.

They sent their ideas to video makers in Indonesia, along with money, to make these specific films and distribute them in the chat group. The article contains some descriptions that I wont share here of what they wanted done to these monkeys, which also included baby long-tailed macaque monkeys.

According to charging documents, Mr Macartney, who lives in the US state of Virginia, is accused by prosecutors of collecting funds from his chat groups and distributing videos depicting the "torture, murder, and sexually sadistic mutilation of animals, specifically juvenile and adult monkeys".

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Mr Macartney has cooperated with investigators from the Department of Homeland Security and agreed to plead guilty to conspiracy charges. He will formally make a plea later this month and is facing up to five years in prison.

Speaking to the BBC Eye investigations team last year, Mr Macartney confessed to his role in the torture network, describing himself as the "king of this demented world".

"I was the man," he said. "You want to see monkeys get messed up? I could bring it to you."

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The BBC understands that more charges are expected to follow soon for other key players in the monkey torture network. At least 20 people were placed under investigation last year globally, following the BBC's investigation.

Three participants have already been charged in the US, including Mr Macartney. Two torturers were arrested and jailed in Indonesia, and three women have been arrested in the UK, two of whom have been charged.

Holly LeGresley, 37, of Kidderminster and Adriana Orme, 55, of Upton-upon Severn were charged last month with publishing an obscene article and causing unnecessary suffering to a protected animal.

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In the US, two others have been charged with the same counts as Mr Macartney.

David Christopher Noble, 48, a former US Air Force officer who was previously court-martialed and dismissed from the military, and Nicole Devilbiss, 35. They are both facing up to five years in prison.

Not surprised to see the Trump flag

Trump wants to be dictator king of America, end term limits, enact christian sharia law, mass deportation, use the government to crack down on political opposition

the rock: Im not going to say anything about that, but I will say cancel culture and woke libs bug me so much, they should let us be true to ourselves.

Vyrulisse posted...

Been plenty of descriptions of "woke culture". Just because you don't accept any of them doesn't mean they don't exist.

One such fitting description is, the boogeyman.

Do you not accept this descriptor?

Its entirely unnecessary to employ dogwhistles and evoke right winger boogeymen if you just want to tell people they should be true to themselves.

ItsNotA2Mer posted...

Depending on how much of the quote you ACTUALLY quote anyway. Why did you intentionally leave out the part where he specifically mentioned cancel culture and woke culture? lol
Let's at least keep it real here.

Its funny because they also mentioned quotes being accurate, and then deliberately took his words out of context by not including the first part of the quote complaining about the woke boogeyman.

Why did you leave out the first part of the quote where he complains about cancel culture and woke culture?

specialkid8 posted...

He barely mentions "woke culture". Fuck out of here with the clickbait title. He's just not sharing his opinions publicly because he doesn't wanna put anyone off of his brand. He doesn't want to lose any popularity.

If he mentioned it at all, thats really not a good look for him to dabble in ignorance or bigotry.

Wow diddy on the run.

Its not a good deal unless you just happen to want this one specific car and can afford more expensive cars anyway.

Assuming youre on a budget, its not a good deal and older BMWs, Audis, etc are not good cars to buy on the cheap.

MrFingers07 posted...

I need to remember that most people here live in the suburbs so when they hear someone getting food that late in the night that it'll shock them but that's very normal here in NYC. It's called the city that never sleeps for a reason.

Its textbook victim blaming, nothing more.

streamofthesky posted...

Two women get stabbed and Clay plays asinine misandry shit.
What happened to the two sisters is tragic, doesn't give you an excuse to condemn an entire gender.
If a woman murdered people and someone said "something's seriously wrong w/ women,' the poster would have a month long vacation from the site within 24 hours.

Terrible comparison, misandry isnt a systemic problem like misogyny. The patriarchy perpetuates misogyny to the detriment of men and women. Not misandry.

Labeling an individual person horrible and bad because they are man would be an example of misandry.

It was heavily lacking intrigue and suspense, I felt. Still enjoyable to watch.

apocalyptic_4 posted...

Has anyone in this topic actually looked at the photo?

Why, should we be policing femininity in public toilets and harassing women who appear masculine and/or with short hair?

Like these?
https://www.thepinknews.com/2022/10/31/cis-woman-harassed-transphobe-female-toilet-short-hair/

https://www.vox.com/2016/5/18/11690234/women-bathrooms-harassment

https://www.newstimes.com/local/article/Woman-mistaken-for-transgender-harassed-in-7471666.php

https://www.advocate.com/news/2022/11/01/cis-woman-mistaken-transgender-records-being-berated-bathroom

Toonstrack posted...

Yup, its why I don't even entertain these accusations at this point. The hypocrisy is unreal.

Lol, are you now trying to renounce all the TERF talking points and misogyny you used to post on 261 in topics about trans people, when you argued trans women shouldnt be allowed in bathrooms or female spaces?

LSGW_Zephyra posted...

A lot of untagged people I've never seen before saying sketchy shit in this topic all of a sudden.

Im the woman they love to use as a punching bag, apparently.

The lack of self awareness from transphobes about clutching pearls is nearly awe inspiring.

They just cant help themselves and come out the woodwork every time with their unhealthy obsession over transgender women.

Toonstrack posted...

You quite literally just took a general statement he made, completely transformed it into another statement entirely and then turned THAT into an accusation

Wtf is wrong with some of yall lol

What is the pearl clutching in reference to, then, if youre so keen to explain? Bear in mind, these kinds of bizarre interjections are not made in a vacuum and both of you have a known posting history of virulent transphobia.

LoveLikeJazz posted...

The pearl clutching is so real in these topics lol

You think its okay to record others in the womens locker room and post it on social media?

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Certainly some fucked up takes to assign blame on someone for attempting suicide, but then again a lot of people dont understand mental health and hold grave misconceptions.

She needs to get help and OP isnt equipped to deal with that. He did what he could and helped save her life.

Kai_Laguna posted...

I've lost more and more interest in gta the more and more they've shifted towards the more realistic stimulator style gameplay they've been doing. Plus the cancer that is gtao.

GTA is a lot of things, but simulation style gameplay it is not and nor does it try to be. This is apparent from the driving to the shooting, and the spirit of all the gameplay mechanics throughout the regular DLC releases and QOL updates.

This will very much carry over to GTA VI. Its got some of the best driving car play of any game, but it is distinctly arcade game-like and not comparable to car crash sim games or other driving/racing sims, for example.

GTA has its share of problems, especially if youre on PC, however that is rectified by playing on current gen consoles. Beyond that, legit complaints can be made about gating content behind their relatively new paid subscription model for GTA+ members.

Im going to play GTA VI Online on day 1

UnfairRepresent posted...

"It will will revert you physically to exactly how you were the day after your 18th birthday forever."

"Yeah but what if it wasn't forever?"

"Then that wouldn't be this scenario"

"What a stupid constraint!"

God imagine giving you the trolley problem

"Why can't I just divert the trolley onto an empty track!?"

"Because there isn't one"

"That seems like a stupid constraint!"

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Dakimakura posted...

Is this a good deal? Should I buy it?

No.

Naysaspace posted...

261 is why I miss CE

The 261 refugees should have gone to one of the dead social boards. Not here.

The admins shut down the community boards when we did that. This place isnt quite 261 but we decorate it where we can and make do living rent free.

So, even more scummy. Really piling on here!

ItsNotA2Mer posted...

*checks tag* Yeah, that tracks.

Yep.

Its like theyre perpetually desperate to find any little opening or thread to grasp for some kind of weird validation.

FolkenRawr posted...

This is such unmitigated bullshit.

Respectability politics strikes again!

The only motive is profit.

mystic_belmont posted...

BTW, even if Wendy's decides to not go through this, I've made it my goal to never go. The fact that they thought this was good enough to broadcast it means I won't go.

^
I used to love Wendys but mostly stopped going years ago, and this all but guarantees I will never, ever return again.

Glad to see we have a few eager beavers ready for some literary learning!

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Retcon

Reframing or adding to past events to serve a current plot need. Take the page image: a pre-existing space elevator is in the city, but one did not appear to exist earlier in the work despite the fact that a building reaching up into space would be plain to see in any wide shot. However the current story requires a space elevator, so it's been added and treated as if it's always been there.

In its most basic form, a retcon is any plot point or detail that was not intended from the beginning, but treated as if it always had been (contrast this with The Reveal, where the author usually intended such an addition from the beginning). The most preferred use is where it contradicts nothing, even though it was changed later on. An ideal retcon clarifies a question alluded to without adding excessive new questions.

While the term comes from comic books, dating to All-Star Squadron #18 in 1983 and shortened to "retcon" by the end of the decade, the technique is much older. Often, it's used to serve a new plot by changing its context or expanding an existing setting; however, it's also done when the creators are caught writing a story that violates continuity and isn't very plausible.

See also Ass Pull, which is something that was not properly set up before it is sprung on the audience, and Cliffhanger Copout, in which a perilous situation is retroactively changed to allow the characters to escape. It is related to Deus ex Machina. Some, but not all retcons are Ass Pulls, and a good retcon can actually improve the current narrative. A good way to get away with a retcon is to reveal new implications or motivations for events that have already been established.

Smoother retcons won't be distinguishable as such, and can even make what was initially an Ass Pulllater look like everything was Just as Planned. (In other words, No Prize it into plausibility and away from the dizzying realm of the Ass Pull.)

The retcon is considered by many to occur when current events contradict the past continuity of the series and is evidence of a Writer on Board. Perhaps more often, the retcon does not actually violate Canon, but rather violates fanon, the set of unstated interpretations usually made by the audience (an interpretation violated this way is said to be Jossed). Most competent writers achieve a retcon by relying on a less-obvious but still perfectly valid interpretation of what was previously seen.

KajeI posted...

This is fucking embarrassing and you should really stop now while you're still above ground.

I never said it was a good retcon, lol.

pegusus123456 posted...

Literally every example in that article is about altering or ignoring something in a previous work.

And Dumbledore was altered, what was open for interpretation is no longer, if you accept Rowlings ramblings as canon.

thronedfire2 posted...

because it was never mentioned at all.

And mentioning it after the fact recontextualizes the character and his story, aka retroactive continuity.

thronedfire2 posted...

so you just assumed he was a straight man with zero reference to the subject at all, in the entire book series?

His sexuality was open to interpretation.

thronedfire2 posted...

can you point out which facts in the fictional world of Harry Potter were established in Book 1-7 with regards to Dumbledore's sexuality?

Dumbedlore exists as a character, who has new information provided by the author that adjusts and supplements the story, and recontextualizes the character and his story in previous works.

and also

To change or clarify how the prior work should be interpreted.

^ as a motivation in the wiki

So now the character isnt just Dumbledore the wizard, hes Dumbledore the gay wizard.

pegusus123456 posted...

Show me an example of someone using it to mean what you're meaning.

Heres a good place for you to start

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retroactive_continuity

pegusus123456 posted...

Literally no one uses it in the way you're talking about.

Thats not accurate at all, but Im happy to have helped broaden your horizons on the meaning of what a retcon is.

Dumbledore couldve been straight, or gay, bi, pan, ace, demi, or whatever you want. The author later establishing a sexuality retroactively affects the continuity. This most definitely includes new information that was not previously established, particularly in a book series as new information is introduced in later volumes that retroactively affects continuity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retroactive_continuity

pegusus123456 posted...

No, I think you might be the one that doesn't know what retcon means. The series itself says nothing about Dumbledore's sexuality. Rowling saying he's gay after the fact doesn't change anything, it's just info we didn't have.

Thats called retroactive continuity, or a retcon. This doesnt have to be contradictory information.

Retroactive Continuity is when new information is added to a story that retroactively affects continuity. It doesnt even have to be something contradictory, but sometimes it can be. Sexuality definitely falls under this, if it is not initially established, as well as any material related to a characters backstory.

Hinakuluiau posted...

Everyone who claims it's a retcon

Im not sure you know what retcon means, then. Dumbledore being gay is 100% a retcon.

Hinakuluiau posted...

It was a pretty common fantheory in the mid 00's before she confirmed it. She's bad because of a bunch of reasons, we don't need to make up shit to point out how awful she is as a human being

Who is making shit up?

Tyranthraxus posted...

This video was published in 2018 if anyone was looking for a time table of how quickly her descent into terf madness was. The first 20 seconds of this video or so aged extremely badly lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKxpwlKRQ2U

LMAO

This was back when JK Rowling was making bizarre comments on Twitter and people thought maybe she was losing her mind or some such

pegusus123456 posted...

It also wasn't really this. Dumbledore being gay didn't have anything to do with the story and she just answered when someone directly asked if he'd ever been in love with someone. This was back in the early 2000s when a gay character in a children's story was insanely progressive and more likely to hurt sales than help them.

Exactly, which is what makes it so shitty and why it was off putting to many people in the LGBT+ community

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They had gay sex.

Shoe horning in a retcon purely to score points

pretty shitty representation in media to only indicate he is gay after the fact

Prey didnt really do it for me. It wasnt disappointing exactly but its not compelling either, and tries too hard to be more like YA fiction rather than a horror/thriller film.

So I shouldnt start watching NBA games again?

There are various meditation techniques you can practice to help with that. It takes practice.

Mindfulness is one.