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Lopen posted...

... yes you do

You can push the narrative of "Chris was targeted by nk night 1 he's town"

I also kinda doubt the setup has roleblocker but you assuming it's a given is odd

We had a bodyguard and scum has a scanner. I'm just assuming the most common scum role is out there.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Oh, there's red.

Why is Chris/Death settled? I'm waiting to hear from Chris still of course, but I'm not convinced Chris was the NK Target.

You don't have to be convinced.

But we would be wise to look elsewhere I think. You don't pair up with people just to shoot them. Hell if they claim bodyguard you still don't shoot them. Especially presuming they have a roleblocker where whenever they need a kill they can roleblock death.

Beyond that the only change in circumstance is Chris/Death feeling settled.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

red has posted 5x so far, but hasn't said much yet.

Ulti stole a bunch of thunder I could have by literally posting our chat.

Death would be smart enough to not say anything about his role.

Chris would be unlikely to date Death just to murder him. There is too much value in pocketing your own dates.

I would be surprised if Chris is scum not sure why we are making dumb conclusions.

bussing with a team of 3 to the point you guarantee you murder yourselves will lose the game a majority of time.

I don't expect scum to be wanting to gambit being a team of 3.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Lea, MZero, Corrik, Sultan, and Chris.

I think thats our PoE.

I think Chris is fine with the death death.

Already was a game for furries.

Kirby's gamesolving is lackluster.

EDumey posted...

Oh no, you can't lock someone into a date from the first page of the topic. What a shame.

You cant lock anyone into a date without consent. I figure it'd make more sense that if both people agree then they both have to agree to split.

Oh, well thats a dumb rule.

Kirby321 posted...

And then you have Red flagrantly ignoring Chris's idea lmao

Though... I'm curious. Sorry for trying to break your game when it hasn't even been an hour yet, Chang

##Date: Red

...

##Breakup

Does that automatically cancel all of Red's proposals?

No it requires both players to breakup to cancel a date.

##Date: Lea
##Date: Mzero
##Date: Lopen
##Date: JC
##Date: Isquen
##Date: FD
##Date: Ulti
##Date: Dumey
##Date: Peaf
##Date: Corrik
##Date: Sultan
##Date: Kirby
##Date: Chris
##Date: Death

Have at it.

okay sure in.

Most Zelda games are better than any Star Wars movie what is this(Yes I know don't respond).

No. I think it is just a week before Pokemon Day.

there yet?

town revealed a lot with that early vanilla convo. It could have turned into a power massacre real fast.

Eights

GenesisSaga posted...

Charon seems to think that

I also assumed this but I don't mention it for fear we would be a less welcoming place, let people keep their privacy and such.

Fantasy

Also apologies I have am having new carpet put in tomorrow and thus today is really being spent cleaning things out. So quite busy.

This is why I hate claiming flavor btw. None of the game had any real reason to be up front with their flavor. It had no game relevance at the time. And now we have a chance to verify something and cant because no one in the game hid a thing.

Keep in mind scum also had vanillaizer to theoretically take something off the board forever.

Chaeix posted...

without Kirby we have

doc/vig
neighbor/track
cop scan
flavour scan
mayor variant

Half a cop scan, Half a flavor scan.

Chaeix posted...

still concerning Kirby died n2. Why shoot him over Lea unless his role was valuable? I know Ive said it already but it bears repeating for thinking about the overall meta.

Because Lea was poisoned, duh?

changmas posted...

for whatever it's worth, i still don't understand why lopen and kirby were day 1 and day 2 kills.

Lopen was obvious, he looked incredibly town.

kirby I still think we can assume was a rolescan.

why you and not lea?

What makes you think you were a day 1 poison target.

You are right.

But it is basically reverse-confirmed by reading Death's PM. The strongman specifies unblockable, the poison specifies kill that takes 2 nights.

changmas posted...

im getting very frustrated at the lack of reading comprehension

I'm trying to comprehend why you think you know what is in my role PM.

changmas posted...

it's not as though your doctor role explicitly says it heals poison either

what?

changmas posted...

well my answer would have been that either it gets blocked by bulletproof and went into me

poison.

bullet.

Because we can surmise pretty well that Death went poison->janitor->strongman

changmas posted...

idk about all that i certainly wouldn't allow it in a game i hosted, should that day ever come to pass

but anyways if all you're gonna do is sit here and pull apart my honest thoughts with tweezers you might as well send me to the peanut gallery already and start the POE cascade moving.

i've said all i need to say and analyzed all i need to analyze tbh. unfortunate that things are likely to end this way.

if you believe i'm town then vote for ben and if you don't then go ahead and kill me. and then once you believe my flip, kill ben>lea/sbell>sbell/lea. do not kill ulti over any of those people.

board 8 loves to ignore what people say after they die and just do their own thing but don't do that, do what i said please :)

okay, run this back for me again.

What do you think happened with the poison?

Chaeix posted...

i don't see why scum would janitor kirby instead of red if they scanned red doc n1 to prepare lea's claim fwiw

My role is "unethical Doctor" which theoretically could have been taken as me being serious about being vigi. But if I get janitored, town has to take my claim at face value as vigi and can't really assume anything else. And we know from the flip scum doesn't get info off what they janitor, so they wouldn't know they killed doc either.

Unless rolecop was given the full flavor text.

But this is highly, highly, unlikely.

I'm going to be honest, I really kind of wanted to shoot chang or ulti on a re-re-read but I was feeling like I had to make a safe play and take out FD.

Dang, I had a brief thought to save wallz but decided to make the safe play and just take out the person suspected by both ben/sbell.

Hans Moleman and Peter Griffin are not flavor clears.

htaeD posted...

Wasnt Mzero a traditional cop?

Oh your right. Scratch that.

But that still leaves even odds of godfather or flavor godfather(Both?).

I would also reiterate I don't think FD and death could orchestrate the vanilla claim conversation on a scumteam together. So not a pair.

I think I have definitely talked myself into thinking at least 1 of sbell and ben has to be scum. We (likely) don't have a traditional cop, so we don't need a traditional godfather. Flavor godfather makes all the sense in the world.

I think there are 3 things working in changs favor: day 1 vote, lots of vanillas, and BP being countered by both vanillaizer and unblockable. If I erased day 1 and the roles I'd be gunning for his head.

depends on how janitor works. Do they see the flip or is it blind to everyone. Without that information it is hard to say. We know they would have 1 role cop prior to that.

The one curiosity that boggles my brain still is how corrik came into the day knowing he was doomed(By scan, not poison, which I assume he made up).

Unless paranoia there is 3p lurking out there but no reason to think this atm.

Town
Red
Fd
Lea
Ben
Jc

Potentially town
Ulti (assuming wallz is telling truth)
Wallz (assuming wallz is telling truth)

I would doubt that corrik listed all town here.

I've said this before, but I reiterate.

I was about to post, I think there is no way kirby was vanilla.