Lurker > HanOfTheNekos

VeryInsane posted...

No I know he explained why

But why is he willing to push an inactive that is being attacked by two people who he considers to likely be scum?

Fill in the blanks: S_ _ M
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

Is that the entire press conference? Only 14 minutes?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

bng_mmmk posted...

Work bathroom post

Han you didn't echo shad in terms of using his argument. Echo wasn't the best word. I meant you pointed a finger at me without pushing it then when shad also suspected me you were like "atta boy shad" while yet again not pressuring me

So why do you think I'm scum?

read the topic
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

It felt a little weird that Scare felt the need to ask who said the quote Chris put in his post. Otherwise, he really didn't say much of anything at all. It didn't feel as forced though.

Leo threw out "gut" as reasoning, and then Stan threw out bullshit.

Now, gut is a perfectly acceptable reason to vote someone, but I disagree with Leo's gut entirely here. So Leo is coming in with what I consider weak reasoning. Stan's vote is utter bullshit though.

Next onto the train is puns whom I don't like as well. However, he actually seems to just be hopping on the train to get it moving and talking with Scare, so it's the most acceptable reasoning so far.

Then Death, whose vote is shit and literally admits to it being an easy lynch for Scum as he hops on it (RED FLAG).


So basically I feel like Scare is Town because everyone on his lynch looks awful (Stan > puns > Death >= Leo in order of Scumminess).

And Nana and MI (the only two people to get on my Townish list by page 6 of last topic) agree with me :)
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

Scare was mostly a non-entity to me in topic 1 and the votes being thrown on him felt weird, so let me go back and take a read.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

@bl1
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

That said, Boko was known for being inactive and I don't like that he is at this time.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

Oh damn, you guys asked about Stan. I hope that post clears up that question.

My Immortal posted...

My Immortal posted...

Yeah if I had to rank people on the Scare lynch, Stan would probably be worse.

I know Stan is another old timer who returned for this game, but unlike FFD or Boko (oh god I forgot about Boko until I typed this what the hell has he done this game) I have never heard anything about him.

So some old timer tell me about Stan.

No one answered me on this, so Han! Tell me about Stan!

I don't really have the best memory, nor do I put much stock in the days of yore, so I'm not the best person to ask about his past.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

This game is called "Stan's posts so far".

MysteriousStan posted...

I feel like I've been transported back to the early 2010's looking at that list.

How's everyone doing? Playing Persona 5 right now myself. It's p. great.

This reads straight-up as "game started, I need to say something, uhhh"

Next is a fluff post about the last time he played and P5. Then...

MysteriousStan posted...

What about all the other people that haven't played in years, eh, VI? I don't think I'm the only one!

I don't like this one because he interjects himself into conversation, but it's still about nothing. And it feels less natural and more "I need to say something!"

MysteriousStan posted...

Scare said: "KBM, Nana, Stan are my top 3 "Going to be up for lynch anyways" group"

I'm curious, please elaborate, Scare.

This is after not posting for awhile, and he just chimes in to ask about why he would be considered up for lynch.

MysteriousStan posted...

So I was thinking before going to bed (this was a bad idea, couldn't get to sleep quickly) that I really didn't like Scare's comments earlier. Don't want my question for him to get glossed over in whatever recap that he does so I'm just going to leave this here for now.

##Vote: Scare

This is the weakest reasoning. "Really didn't like Scare's comments earlier". That's ALL. No specifics about the comments, just putting a vote on a guy who said that he thought Stan would be lynched. That reads like a stealthy defense by putting pressure on someone who suggested he would be the one under suspicion.


MysteriousStan posted...

I don't think that analogy works when the votes are meant to kill scum...not protect baby elephants.

But anyway, for me it was really the "anyways" it of Scare's post when he listed me, KBM, and Nana as top easy lynches like it was already a forgone conclusion that that was what's going to happen. The rest of the content of his posts are pretty much rehashes of stuff that's already happened. So when he gets back I'd like to know why he listed those three specifically.

This is his actual explanation for the vote which was basically all said already. There's nothing here.

MysteriousStan posted...

Why do you suspect Leo?

MysteriousStan posted...

Okay cool. I was going to say that it'd be weird for you to say that you suspect Leo and not me for his Scare vote. But you did. I'm liking you right now, Mr. Zero.

Playing the buddy card with someone who said they suspected him.


Then some other posts that are brief questions or statements.

That's all for the first topic. Second topic is fresh enough, but is basically boils down to "Stan asks questions but states nothing". The only things Stan has really committed to at this moment is that he's on a lynch for Scare that he's been on all day (for basically no reason) and he feels Town about KBM.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

Hey Jeff, where is your vote right now and why isn't it on Stan?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

Something changed in Larrington. As he ran earlier, he knew he was done for. But somehow, he was pulled down and out of the way, at just the right time. As the two collapsed to the floor, Larrington knew that he only had his life thanks to this demon.

With that thought, he brought himself to his feet. If the demon was to die for him, then he would make sure it was not in vain. Drawing his rapier which he had never used on a living thing before, Larrington awkwardly grasped it with both hands and charged forward at the Knight with an unintimidating battle squeal.

"YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

MZero11 posted...

will the season end tonight?

more important question:

how many nuts will the warriors hit tonight?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

Definitely don't like VI for throwing extra non-committal wood on me.


Going to look at KBM again.


But really at this moment I am a little dumbfounded that Stan is continuing to skate by. He's been on enough people's lists and yet the only thing he's doing is asking me questions that I've already explained. That's not even a defense, that's a lazy "look I'm here"
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

FFDragon posted...

Finishing the last topic the main thing that sticks out to me is:

HanOfTheNekos posted...

FFD is nothing. He's a void to my gut. I don't trust that.

I went through a great deal of effort to make sure everyone would have some opinion on me last night, so this sticks out like a sore thumb.

I have an OPINION. Not an alignment lead. You were creating good discussion, you were trying to make things happen. That's good, but also a good Scum player would know to do the same.

I read into tone of posts. That's why I can assure you Stan is Scum. He posts like a Scum member.

You didn't have anything in your posts that made me feel like they were coming from a Town member, nor did they ever feel falsified. That's what I mean by a null-tell - you seem like a cold and calculated player and less like a person trying to fit into a role.

bng_mmmk posted...

Han suspecting me D1 is noteworthy in my mind. I don't think town han has ever suspected town me really. And he just sorta pointed the finger and echoed shad but hasn't questioned me directly. Possibly scum.

I said you were suspicious before Shad made a single post this game. Also, I've certainly suspected you before. Whether or not you were Town or Scum in those games, I don't remember.

If you're correct that you were not Town in those games, then I feel more confident in saying you're not Town here!

FFDragon posted...

But seriously Han spent a lot of fluff being noncommittal about me and then went limply after Stan. This all feels like an attempt at appearing useful while definitely not actually doing anything.

"The thing that sticks out to me the most" is not fluff. Maybe I didn't explain it well enough to you, but I wouldn't have said anything if it wasn't important. I wouldn't have thought it if it wasn't important.

And Tony's were on last night.


DoomTheGyarados posted...

The only thing I remember from Han is him being all like "I was a good scum player 6 years ago!" and trying to use that as a reason to not be happy with me this game, or something. Han's usually more impactful than this and as FFD said I don't really get how you can read the game and point to FFD as the guy you feel nothing for.

Han explain yourself.

I wasn't trying to use that as a reason, I was just calling you wrong. And what is your lean on FFD? Before catching up, mine was firmly in the "I don't have a feel for him one way or the other, nothing has stuck out in terms of tone and that's incredibly strange for me".


I'm still catching up but jeez I didn't expect what I said about FFD to fly over everyone's head so much.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

oh Bette Midler
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

HaRRicH posted...

Just noticed Han posted between my updates, whoops. I haven't seen any of the shows this year so it's hard for me to root for too much besides Laura Linney and any play August Wilson wrote (Jitney this year).

hue hue

The writer of Natasha, Pierre, and the Great Comet of 1812 studied under the same composition professor as I did, so I'm biased towards that show, but listening to the soundtracks, it's my preferred as well.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

Nothing looked like something I'd want to play.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

MysteriousStan posted...

I don't have a problem with Scare's vote btw, Boko.

And you're voting for me now instead of earlier Han becauuuuse? Why again? You say the timing of my vote is weird but it's really nothing compared to my first post.

Because you hadn't posted much of anything and I wanted to get a few more posts out of you before I threw suspicion on.

And I'm satisfied with waiting. The posts I waited for definitely confirmed for me my initial gut.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

MysteriousStan posted...

I feel like I've been transported back to the early 2010's looking at that list.

How's everyone doing? Playing Persona 5 right now myself. It's p. great.

This was Stan's first post.

Just feels so fake. "Hey guys, I'm here. Look at me."

Then when he finally returns it's some weird go on Scare which, tbh, the timing with Leo made look worse but isn't the lynchpin on this.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

Yeah.

##Vote: MysteriousStan

This is our lynch for today.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

I think Dear Evan Hansen will win, but I want Great Comet to.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

Shaduln posted...

OK, I've read through page 5, and puns is not coming off well at all. I don't like the single mindedness with MI. There isn't anything "modkillable" like red said, but to me it looks like puns trying to make a reason to vote on MI "hey guys look MI ran away and didn't answer my question".

##Vote: puns

Also, I don't like Nana's JZ vote. Literally going for the newbie.

Chris and FFD seem very comfortable. Don't think that means anything, as they probably both would be as either scum or town. Maybe slight town points to FFD as he's out of practice?

Gonna make some coffee and tackle the rest.

puns suspicion is good.

What is wrong about going for the newbie?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

My Immortal posted...

(Watch him be mafia godfather and me look like shit for saying this)

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

My Immortal posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

My Immortal posted...

Han, how do you judge a new player? How much should you expect them to do when they are unfamiliar with the game at large?

For a new player, it's how much they feel genuine vs. how much they feel like someone who is trying to fit in somewhere they don't.

I fully admit my gut sometimes falters on new players because most new players are playing while trying not to arouse suspicion, but I don't feel like that's the case here.

It feels like JZ is palling along with everybody in a sort of "hey guys! haha! I'm your friend!"

How well do you know JZ? Because I'm fairly sure that "I'm your friend" is just... him.

Well enough to agree with you on that account, but it still feels more like he's trying to fit in as opposed to just being natural.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

My Immortal posted...

Han, how do you judge a new player? How much should you expect them to do when they are unfamiliar with the game at large?

For a new player, it's how much they feel genuine vs. how much they feel like someone who is trying to fit in somewhere they don't.

I fully admit my gut sometimes falters on new players because most new players are playing while trying not to arouse suspicion, but I don't feel like that's the case here.

It feels like JZ is palling along with everybody in a sort of "hey guys! haha! I'm your friend!"
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

That's understandable, but it was the thing that stuck out to me the most so I wanted to get it out there.

What are your thoughts on bokbokbokbok?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

VeryInsane posted...

Like if the main thing he took away is "I am wary of FFD he is a good player" then that disappoints me greatly

Maybe I didn't explain it well enough, but that's not it.

Let me put up a trio of players - Chris, red, FFD. All good players, all tough to read (at least to me).

Chris seems very happy to play this game. Chris is an emotional player. He tried to put Boko back on track early. I don't really have an alignment read either way from him yet, but the gears are turning and I feel myself locking on some opinion of him after this day.

Red is traditionally pretty inactive, but he carries a little bit of a scheming energy to him when he's Scum, or a more earnest energy when he's Town, so I feel that I can lock him down eventually.


FFD has posted a lot and I feel absolutely nothing. That's a huge red flag, because usually I feel at least SOMETHING. death looked a little bad for his first couple posts until I read them correctly and realized I liked what he was talking about in terms of meta. Boko posted a little, but it still came across as Scummy. I already have someone pegged as Scum for their first post.

FFD is nothing. He's a void to my gut. I don't trust that.




(just refreshed before posting)

Not set on a feel for red yet. It feels more like he's been pulled into the game instead of saying his own piece. I do like that he's sort of at-odds with FFD, and I do like that he's trying to keep people on track, though Scum Red would say that exact same thing.

In summation, not enough content for me to really settle on him, but from what I've seen so far, it doesn't look like he's trying to fly under the radar.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

All I've seen from Jeff so far are comments on things. Doesn't feel like any real playing, and I know people like to handwave "new player" on, but that's a really bad strategy when that new player is Scum. But yeah, Jeff is doing classic Scum strat of being active through posting a lot and commenting on things without really directly contributing to discussion. Feel good about this lynch.

Nana focused on Jeff from early-on which I liked, especially when other people are going the "oh he's new route", which puts Nana in the Townish tier for me. I really disliked puns early defense on Jeff for that (not gonna seek out the exact post though I might in a bit). Basically dislike puns there for the same reason I like Nana.

More on puns - hate the complaining about flavor. Too much, feels forced. However, his posts continued to play out in his semi-dumb-playful manner, so if that keeps up (which I'm not seeing!) then that's usually a Town tell for him.

KBM is obviously an easy lynch, but I really hated her hopping on Nana. That just feels like Scum picking an 'easy' lynch to put themselves on to.

Boko hasn't really posted much, but it was a whole smattering of fluff so that really rubs wrong. Want to see more, but that's still the early read.


That's basically my shorthand (minus my #1 Scum read) at the moment. MI would be on the Townish tier but that was just for saying I was a good player.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

My Immortal posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Han was never a good scum player

Currently reading on the topic, but I single-handedly won two Scum games in a row then kept rolling Scum and nobody gave me the benefit of the doubt and that's why I stopped playing mafia back in 2011.

So we should lynch you, you say?

Oh and VI I can't think of one in this board Nana has been lynched in specifically, that's not what my thought is in

Should lynch Chris for being a dirty liar, is what I say.



I've caught up in topic, can give sparknotes of my thoughts right now, but I'm a little hesitant because I want to see some more posts from certain people.


Main thing is that I'm afraid of FFD. He is a good player, is playing well, and I have no lean on him either way. He is a person who can run this game regardless of alignment, so it's very worth keeping eyes on him. Also, I heavily encourage this red vs FFD thing.

Will give a few more thoughts after reviewing my notes.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Han was never a good scum player

Currently reading on the topic, but I single-handedly won two Scum games in a row then kept rolling Scum and nobody gave me the benefit of the doubt and that's why I stopped playing mafia back in 2011.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

Larrington curses. "Oi demon, help us with this fellow and you'll get a cut of the treasure. After all, if this thing has been here, maybe he was one of the ones who experimented on you!"

Larrington will aid Lionel by distracting the Imperishable Knight.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

Curious to see how Family Guy handles this.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

Larrington laughs.

"But of course, you could not expect us to let you out so easily! Demons are dangerous, after all.

"Promise to assist us in our adventure in searching this dungeon, and I will gladly Release You."
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

TV's Adam West :(
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

Screw the Empire. I support of a vision of an independent Dantooine.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

wow reds really completely dropped the ball there
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

This game needs a zamboni break
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

Warriors can't catch back up without playing dirty
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

I guess going for the nuts is a team thing, and not just limited to Draymond.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

And MWC would still have you believe it's refs vs GS.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

Larrington will call down after learning about Short: "Do you have treasure? We are searching for great treasures!"
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

Abu
Gizmoduck
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

The worst thing is that Ulti is "better", but not by much. Yet he holds onto his "improvement" as if it means a lot more than it does.

This is partly why he overreacts. He thinks he's changed, and though he has, it's a negligible amount. 3 lbs. of dog shit is less than 8 lbs. of dog shit, but at the end of the day, it's still shit.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

Theme from "Bill Nye the Science Guy"
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

Considering a number of players have also made that decision, it's not really a story.

Some people just don't want to play mafia with Ulti.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

Angelina Jolie
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

Where's Mewgenics?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

MZero11 posted...

foolm0r0n posted...

Or you can swap in a high hp character and then attempt to escape and heal outside the battle so you don't risk losing all your progress in a game over

Particularly you can have Tidus on standby so that on any turn you can swap him in and Flee for a 100% safe escape

Live and let live!

I won't go so easy on you next time!

See ya!
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

get some gator bites

and make sure theyre the good kind. Anywhere out of nawlins that you get gator bites, they use scrap meat
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

Conform
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic