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red13n posted...

I kind of just want to pull a lynch out of boko/han/shad here.

Did I miss VI elaborating anything about his claim? all I recall seeing in my readthrough here was a flavor and nothing more.

The only thing I remember is you saying I felt inactive which is probably the most questionable thing I've read all game. At this point I feel you're just being lazy or stubborn.

htaeD posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Your vote provided the alternative path aside from a puns lynch. That's what I mean.

At the very least, it laid the groundwork for the next people to hop on and make it serious (Leo/KBM, then Scare in quick order).

at the time, wasnt FFD way behind?
either way, I take some responsibility, but not all. I never told people to vote FFD. Thats just who I felt comfortable leaving a vote on

also comment on the european thing, are you aware of my timezone?

On that note
Its rather sketchy that you would go after me first with your logic of tying me with Puns

Yes I'm aware you're overseas and no I do not see why that is an important factor.

And no, I'm pretty sure you tied FFD with puns, and the only person who had multiple votes aside from that was Stan who people were still getting off.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

Your vote provided the alternative path aside from a puns lynch. That's what I mean.

At the very least, it laid the groundwork for the next people to hop on and make it serious (Leo/KBM, then Scare in quick order).
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

Ok.


So the big issue with Death is that he basically pushed forward the alternative lynch to puns, in FFD. The options were Chris, Nana, FFD, and Leo, as the other people with one vote. FFD was the easy pick (aside from Nana whom apparently Death said he felt good about).

What I don't like about Death's justification on his vote is that it was the lowest hanging fruit (he "felt more life" from puns, which of course kinda led FFD's lynch). That's lazy, it's weak, and even when FFD showed up Death just sat there, seemingly content.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

There was a time when Chris saying a player he knew well was town meant something.

I've looked at your reasoning and I don't agree with it. I kinda trust you which is why I took a long look at VI and threw up reasoning for going after him (being one of the worse votes at end of day, along with Leo/dowolf), but where Death is concerned, I think you're flat wrong.

Death does look better if puns is Town though.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

Shaduln posted...

Hmm, I feel much more comfortable about a death lynch than a VI lynch.

Would someone like to explain the VI lynch to me? He's seemed to be genuinely trying to encourage activity.

Awkwardly kept his hands clean of the lynch yesterday.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

Also come on, it's less than 5 hours til deadline and we've just kinda sat around like "well... we could vote Death... maybe VI... some people wanna kill puns".

Let's do something.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

I'm probably gonna be on mobile for end-of-day so if anyone wants me to explain things in good detail now would be way better than later.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

Abu
Gizmoduck
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

Btw, after reading through it and dipping further, whether or not last day's lynch was Town/Town or Town/Scum doesn't really seem to change all that much.

If it was Town/Scum, then puns is obv Scum and Leo/dowolf look a lot worse.

If it was Town/Town, then Nana and Shad look worse, puns is Town, and everyone else still looks bad.

The problem is, as we have it, FFD was lynched as Town. It did seem like, towards the end, dowolf and Leo were protecting puns and the same could possibly be said for people who stayed off the lynch - MI, VI, Boko are examples.


If it was just Town/Town, then you have a lot of erratic behavior, which I guess could be explained by Scum just wanting FFD dead more.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

VeryInsane posted...

Vengeful_KBM posted...

I just realized Han never explained what he meant when he called me "Anakin from Episode 2."

I think it just meant bad acting

VeryInsane posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

I don't doubt my gut.

And yet, your line of questioning towards me, at least from how I see it, implies otherwise

Can you actually explain this further? I don't think that you have to be Town if puns is Scum.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

I don't doubt my gut.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

See, it's perfect? Larrington will attempt to bribe the door open and will think he succeeded.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

I kind of agree because I'm just now really looking at the lynch in detail and if nobody else has really been saying much about you it means other people haven't been examining it either.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

My Immortal posted...

I feel like I'm being ignored.

I got your back VI.

Did you ever respond to me?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

VeryInsane posted...

Man where is @Leo3L when you need him

He was always the best at reading me

Leo? The guy who actually took his vote off of dowolf and voted for one of FFD and puns?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

Larrington will attempt to bribe door R into opening.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

VeryInsane posted...

Not that early, like a couple minutes.

Also T-Puns I was thinking more of when you claimed that sex god thing

it was a few minutes before deadline. You appeared to be there but didn't say anything.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

bng_mmmk posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

If we both pegged Ulti immediately then you weren't doing your job in helping me get him lynched day 1.

What does that matter

What matters is that he should've been dead by day end and I was doing my damnedest to make it happen.

This is why people should listen to me tbqh
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

If we both pegged Ulti immediately then you weren't doing your job in helping me get him lynched day 1.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

So the problem is that you kept your hands clean of the FFD vs puns lynch and followed MI onto dowolf, then stayed even when the dowolf lynch had fallen out of favor (which happened plenty early enough).
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

VeryInsane posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

VI - if you had to have picked between voting FFD or puns yesterday, which one would you pick?

I am certain this was asked earlier but puns

He was initially my topic 1 page 1 pocket gut, fwiw. More I think about it though, him being cute with his Moon boy claim (did he claim that or Moon man) reminds me a bit of Hearthstone Mafia when he tried to play around with his role Day 1

See, I thought he wasn't acting cute enough because I usually ping him comparing him to Hearthstone mafia as well.



Second question - why didn't you pick FFD or puns yesterday?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

1 on 1?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

bng_mmmk posted...

I want MI Chris and red to answer this

Gun to your head right now rank VI, death, and dowolf from most likely to least likely scum preferably with some reasons

puns > puns > puns
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

htaeD posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Death, since you're still around, what did you think of Nana around the time of Stan's claim?

I recall liking Nana
cant immediately remember why tho

anyway I am gone now, ciao

When you get back, can you answer that same question for Chris and Leo?


DoomTheGyarados posted...

My Immortal posted...

Chris you don't think it's concerning that all anyone death suspects has to say is 'nah' and death backs off of them?

As someone Death had concern about I gave in depth thoughts that eased Death's mind about me, and he appeared to weigh my words, so I don't appreciate or like the casualness of your argument here to make Death look worse.

It feels like I've been completely unable to get through to Death here so either he's intentionally misplaying my arguments or he's not thinking as critically as you claim he is.

Also, his argument for hopping on FFD yesterday was weak.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

VI - if you had to have picked between voting FFD or puns yesterday, which one would you pick?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

Death, since you're still around, what did you think of Nana around the time of Stan's claim?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

htaeD posted...

also if you were being serious thats even worse Han
of all the reasons to make you snap and vote me, the quote thing is the silliest

No... I don't think we're talking about the same thing right now.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

htaeD posted...

that reminds me that I asked Han about that too
Han, did I miss your reponse?
when I asked you whether or not you were joking when you voted me (and were voting me for other reasons)

I was being very serious.

And for the last time, I wasn't "making things up".

You said something Scummy. I used hyperbole in saying you said it all the time as Scum.

That doesn't mean it's not Scummy, that doesn't mean it's not a good reason for gut to ping on you.



DoomTheGyarados posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

Furthermore, Han indicates that "following others who have posted, this is a bad list", and I'd like him to clarify what he means by that.

Aside from puns, nobody had said anything at all about me until, in very quick succession, Chris, red, MI, you.

Chris's statement was bad because it relies on him not reading the game, red's statement parroted Chris's, MI's actually had sense behind it, and then yours came completely out of nowhere. That's why it looks so bad. Like you're trying to sneakily hop aboard a train of suspicion on someone who is Town without giving any clear explanation.

I have read every single post in this game.

I'm not convinced!
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

Nanahara715 posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

Furthermore, Han indicates that "following others who have posted, this is a bad list", and I'd like him to clarify what he means by that.

Aside from puns, nobody had said anything at all about me until, in very quick succession, Chris, red, MI, you.

Chris's statement was bad because it relies on him not reading the game, red's statement parroted Chris's, MI's actually had sense behind it, and then yours came completely out of nowhere. That's why it looks so bad. Like you're trying to sneakily hop aboard a train of suspicion on someone who is Town without giving any clear explanation.

Ok, cool, so this explains why you think YOU being on my list is bad, but doesn't explain why YOU think the "list" is bad as a whole.

Unless your assertion is a blunt "any list with my name on it is bad", in which case you're arguing that no one should be suspecting you for any reason at all.

I mean, it's particularly because I'm on it and it didn't seem to make sense, except in the context that other people were floating my name around which makes the timing look bad. The only other thing bad with the list is that poor Boko is on it.



MI, since you're around, what do you not particularly like about me today? You've been one of my few Town reads this game and I feel like we usually gel as both Town, so it seems odd unless you just really don't think Death or puns are Scum.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

MajinZidane posted...

Yeah I like nana a lot

Nana has been one of my few Town reads but that post made me second guess myself.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

Nanahara715 posted...

Furthermore, Han indicates that "following others who have posted, this is a bad list", and I'd like him to clarify what he means by that.

Aside from puns, nobody had said anything at all about me until, in very quick succession, Chris, red, MI, you.

Chris's statement was bad because it relies on him not reading the game, red's statement parroted Chris's, MI's actually had sense behind it, and then yours came completely out of nowhere. That's why it looks so bad. Like you're trying to sneakily hop aboard a train of suspicion on someone who is Town without giving any clear explanation.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

Nanahara715 posted...

I dont know what you want me to say? "Guys it's ok, Boko finally voted after 100+ game hours, he's not scum."?

Yes.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

htaeD posted...

Han. A puns lynch would lead to clarity about the end of day1.

No duh?

I said puns was a waste of time today. Where did I say I didn't want to lynch him? Go back and check my posts, I fully expect to end today with my vote on him. It would just be useless to keep my vote there for the whole day when I've already finished all the prodding I've done to him, especially when deadline is still ways away.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

Trying to quote the other topic and then post the posts in the right topic are mixing me up, here's the post that was supposed to be between those two:

htaeD posted...

speaking of players on me
I really dont like the underhanded comments Han sometimes makes

like that post I just quoted, I want to know why he felt Puns was a waste of time

Read the game. Christ.


Fine, let's put suspicion on puns and make him claim.

"oops"

I guess I'll back and forth and see how puns responds to suspi-

"oops"



Literally at this point puns will just shitpost (as he has already been doing) so there's no reason to waste time on somebody we're not getting something out of.

Unless you think it's a better use of time to just put my vote on the guy and sit around all day. But see, in not doing that, I've gotten your weak defense of him, so hey, Scumhunting at work.




I love how red says "Han has been in the background" when I literally led the lynch opposing his on day 1. "lynch all liars"

Nanahara715 posted...

Morning observations.

Boko has yet to make a vote a full 104 hours into the game.

I would be voting for KBM whose only posting the entire day was 22 hours ago and directed to me responding to my accusation calling her scum, responding by acting incredulous when I called her obtuse. There's no engagement since yesterday morning.

That said, the scales have tipped over the town point on Chris for me. I support the VI lynch fully for the same stuff Chris said, which is parallel to the logic on my initial vote.

MI - also a town read, but more in the middle. I'm tying him to dowolf (i.e. Scum/scum or town/town)

Scum in order of certainty- VI, KBM, Boko, one of Dowolf/Puns (but I don't think both), and either Han or Jeff

This particularly stands out.

Why am I on Nana's list?

Nana hasn't said a word about me, there's not even justification there. After there was a little talk about me, this pops up out of nowhere. Following the other guys who just posted, this just reads like a really bad list.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

htaeD posted...

I was just saying you were wrong about votes on Puns being useless because the votals came right after your post

also the way you say 'solidify' doesnt sound like a town thing to say
more like you just want to find things you can use against me, instead of still assuming I could be town

The votes on puns are useless as I just dictated. I don't know if you were paying attention, but we got a claim and almost a lynch out of him day 1. Now, if you would pay any further attention, you would see that between puns and I, we've been circling the same damn wagon. Other people can vote puns if they want, but where is that going to lead?

Honest question - where do you expect that to lead?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

Other topic >_>
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

htaeD posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Shad, puns is a waste of time right now vote Death.

nice try lying Han, votals immediately shut that up didnt it?

... does this even mean anything?



I'm going to take a look back through the topics to solidify myself on Death but also respond to Chris's scenarios, but first I'm taking a quick look at the random underhanded suspicion being thrown my way.


(accidentally posted this in last topic)
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

htaeD posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Shad, puns is a waste of time right now vote Death.

nice try lying Han, votals immediately shut that up didnt it?

... does this even mean anything?



I'm going to take a look back through the topics to solidify myself on Death but also respond to Chris's scenarios, but first I'm taking a quick look at the random underhanded suspicion being thrown my way.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

Shad, puns is a waste of time right now vote Death.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

DoomTheGyarados posted...

No one asked actually. It's simple, I thought puns was scum after reading so I shot at him. What kind of trash player doesn't shoot someone they think are scum?

Lots of players are just kind of floating to me right now aside from puns. shad (who seems kind of soft on puns despite poking him a lot), dowolf, han, boko, are all kind of like 'blah blah' without anything behind them.

Did you miss the part where I led a train on Stan yesterday and then pushed for puns to be one of the lynches?

Do you even think puns is Scum without me prodding him?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

I had a problem with what you said about me.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

MajinZidane posted...

I assume that wasn't directed toward me, @HanOfTheNekos, but I answered you. :)

Do you think that dowolf is town? If I voted for him right now, would you have any objections?

If putting your vote on him creates discussion, then go for it. Otherwise, I think it'd be better suited on Death (or KBM but you seem to not want that).
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

dowolf seemed Townish to me yesterday, but his vote being awol at day end is a little disconcerting, especially if puns is Scum (which I'm sure he is).

What bothers me is that I only trust one person currently on him. Otherwise I wouldn't be adverse to it at all.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

Yeah, that felt a lot more Townish than your earlier post this day.

Gut is probably just pinging on you because you're new.


We've hit a point of stagnation. Let's get this thing moving. More votes on Death.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

I'm honestly a little bit mollified by you backing off so easily.

It's making me second guess myself.



Boko, I asked you a question before, can you answer it?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

Sometimes there are things that are very important to say right away, such as "Jeff you're insane if you think I was particularly inactive yesterday".
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

I mean, you have to be Scum because the alternative is that you don't understand the concept of people catching up on topics.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

Oh yeah.

Welp.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

VeryInsane posted...

That's just my playstyle. I play pretty reactive and try to push questions.

Don't think it's necessarily scummy

Hey VI Death is Scum, y/y?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

My Immortal posted...

You think shad is town? Thoughts on other players voting or expressing suspicions on shad? (Vi, leo, me)

Based on puns, I think Shad is Town. I don't think suspicion on Shad is Scummy because he has been completely under the radar, but it is unnerving that a lot of you are following puns in that direction.

htaeD posted...

to be fair when I said 'striking' I was basically trying to subtly increase suspicion on Town members. That way, if other people agreed, I could help push forward some Town lynches.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic

Shaduln posted...

Han seems upset. Which is typically town Han, right? I don't think I've played with scum Han recently though.

Hamilton is the only game I've been Scum in since like 5 years ago or so.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." -FAHtastic