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| Topic | turbopuns mafia topic 5 (ft. the end of day 2) |
| benjamin3740 05/31/17 5:27:48 PM #362 | |
| Topic | turbopuns mafia topic 5 (ft. the end of day 2) |
| benjamin3740 05/31/17 1:08:36 PM #332 | UItimaterializer posted... htaeD posted...UItimaterializer posted...Sceptilesolar posted...benjamin3740 posted...Sceptilesolar posted...htaeD posted...is especially unpleasant, because there may not be a clarification if we mislynch today, night4 could be the end! What do you think about Mzero? The other claimed roleblocker --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 1:00:36 PM #330 | Sceptilesolar posted... How many votes are on Ben right now? I thought I counted 3. That's well past hammer territory unless multiple of the voters are scum. Of the people on me, the one I feel good about being Town is Eaed His vote on me also seemed genuine enough since he "wanted me dead since day 1" -.- I dont see scum hammering today, even moreso if Chris is Town, but I do really think someone should unvote just in case since we have Sceptile's scan still coming --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 12:54:42 PM #329 | MZero11 posted... benjamin3740 posted...If he is scum then he was scared to claim anything (since there are no vanillas) and thought he was best claiming his real role. Didnt just claim roleblocker because then trackers could be like "Well i didnt see you block this guy like you claim" And okay, good to know. @MysticBrohan - were you blocked twice? And claim plz --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 12:51:40 PM #327 | Sceptilesolar posted... benjamin3740 posted...Sceptilesolar posted...htaeD posted...also scum shot MK, probably because he wasnt an immediate doctarget in their eyes Maybe. But Chris' whole theory was that scum kept him alive risking doc protects just to mislynch him today. So I guess that's why he expected me to come out swinging. --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 12:45:18 PM #324 | Sceptilesolar posted... htaeD posted...also scum shot MK, probably because he wasnt an immediate doctarget in their eyes Sigh. I'm just telling the truth. --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 12:42:56 PM #322 | htaeD posted... also scum shot MK, probably because he wasnt an immediate doctarget in their eyes I already said, I am putting no value in role meta anymore. I know I am jailer, so that is not the issue. As scum it would be easy to go after those two immediately because both their roles should not exist alongside mine, but I am valuing reads over anything else. WHy did Chris counterclaim Terra, and why did Mzero claim Ninja? And if Chris is Town, I want him alive tonight to give us a chance to get another scan --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 12:38:28 PM #320 | And if he makes up some crap like I blocked him, then I will know for sure he is scum. I'll still die but at least I'll die with the game figured out. (And if there is a day 5, you'll know who to kill) --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 12:36:49 PM #318 | htaeD posted... just that we have no idea if scum can or cannot still block people Yes. And if anyone blocks Chris tomorrow, then they are mafia, and he will see it. --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 12:31:09 PM #316 | htaeD posted... benjamin3740 posted...Sceptilesolar posted...benjamin3740 posted...Sceptilesolar posted...htaeD posted...is especially unpleasant, because there may not be a clarification if we mislynch today, night4 could be the end! What's that mean? --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 12:30:12 PM #315 | htaeD posted... benjamin3740 posted...htaeD posted...another question for Ben is And do you really think it's not risky for me (as scum) to leave a doctor alive and unblocked a whole night? --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 12:26:38 PM #312 | |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 12:26:03 PM #310 | Sceptilesolar posted... benjamin3740 posted...Sceptilesolar posted...htaeD posted...is especially unpleasant, because there may not be a clarification if we mislynch today, night4 could be the end! Never tell me the odds And yes, well, IF Chris is doctor, you should be able to at least get off another scan tomorrow. If Chris is roleblocked, he will see who it is. It's a win-win night. If Chris is town. So you agree, Chris? --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 12:23:57 PM #309 | htaeD posted... Nanahara715 posted...Death - how do you feel about Ben claiming to target you N1? I used it purely offensively when i had no substantial information. Of course I'd change my tacticts from the previous night when there is a claimed Doctor out and about. :b Come on now. --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 12:20:42 PM #305 | eaedwards6400 posted... We need to burn Ben at the stakes. Jailer was the exact claim that was made by Sheep in Chrono Cross mafia when he blocked VI and was tracked by Oddity. When I claimed it, I assumed I used my ability to do something important and that it needed to be spoken about. That was before I knew that EVERYONE got sent to VI --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 12:17:44 PM #303 | MZero11 posted... benjamin3740 posted...Chris, if I flip Town, and the game still goes on, what would your next thoughts be? That was in regards to "if" I die. I was well aware I could have said When, but then the game is probably over if I say when --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 12:15:14 PM #301 | htaeD posted... eh Ben assumed the same thing is the problem It's not that. I just want to be very careful with who we kill. And IF Chris is Town he's dead in the night --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 12:10:54 PM #299 | Sceptilesolar posted... htaeD posted...is especially unpleasant, because there may not be a clarification if we mislynch today, night4 could be the end! Oh thank god. This day can still be salvaged --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 12:08:49 PM #298 | htaeD posted... another question for Ben is Well I thought it would be too much blocking since I am a jailer, but with this game I do know there is a chance for anything to be possible. I took the chance there was not a roleblocker. Also, regarding Mzero. I fully get the argument that we should not both exist as town, but I cannot get over the way he claimed, or why he even claimed at all if he is scum. He claimed before he knew I had jailed Chris, so then why claim blocks on other people when your real blocks (Or scummate's blocks( are going to be reported by town who was blocked. --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 12:03:59 PM #295 | htaeD posted...
I was most unsure of killing him at the beginning when he claimed Protective Jack. Thought him and Chris being Town together was ridiculous, and also couldnt imagine Chris counterclaiming him as scum. So I was torn but felt better odds were on lynching Terra. When he claimed more things, it just felt like he had really been counterclaimed and was trying hard to stay alive by saying whatever. Like saying he was princess in the last 10 minutes. In the moment it was VERY hard for me to believe and made me feel better about killing him. So I was still very shocked when he flipped Town Princess + psychic + whatever, because that was the stuff i wasnt buying from him --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 1:29:49 AM #271 | SSF2 Beta is out. Also a big thing I didnt like from you when reading up is how you kept saying I was hiding because i was caught. You could go and check my online status if you wanted to see I hadnt been on gamefaqs in 5+ hours (Since my lunch break). I thought it was scummy trying to lead town to think that when it was not true. This is just explaining why i was so initially against you as I came back and read up on the day --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 1:12:35 AM #269 | Also Chris, why the sceptile save? Sceptile claimed 1 use, and VI was also dead at that point --- |
| Topic | turbopuns mafia topic 5 (ft. the end of day 2) |
| benjamin3740 05/31/17 1:09:47 AM #268 | benjamin3740 posted...
If Mzero is scum Ninja roleblocker, I dont know why he didnt claim vanilla. If he is scum then he was scared to claim anything (since there are no vanillas) and thought he was best claiming his real role. Didnt just claim roleblocker because then trackers could be like "Well i didnt see you block this guy like you claim" ... But no that makes no sense and sounds really stupid and I want to believe he's just town. BUT THEN WHO BLCOKED ULTI. Why are the roles so screwed this game --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 1:04:49 AM #267 | And if you were town in my position, what would you even do? Sceptile needs to give his scan (unless it is super irrelevant for some reason.) Brohan needs to give his role Mzero's claim does not work with my role at all, but I have no idea why he even would claim the ninja part of his role if he is scum roleblocker. I guess because it is an easy claim? Not sure if I want to put any weight into roles since Chris, Eaed, and Me should not exist together either. Chris being scum would solve that, but I need to stay confident in my initial reads of him. Failed with Terra --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 12:59:04 AM #266 | DoomTheGyarados posted... I'm going to be honest with you, Ben. If you're not scum we're probably fucked. Yep --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 12:58:13 AM #265 | Also at the start of today, I saw a post by Nana and started to think of a world in my head where Chris and him are scum togther. Nana acted like my role was multi use, when I was sure that he knew before it was 1 use. He said many times I am just a vanilla. Then today nana acts like I am multi use to try and throw shade on me. Why would he think that? Because he was there when Scum psychic Chris saw me target him. But Nana has always been a top town read of mine so. ._. Waiting on his explanation --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 12:55:50 AM #263 | DoomTheGyarados posted... DoomTheGyarados posted...DoomTheGyarados posted...If it makes you feel better I believe scum psychic could be a fun thing. Oh, skipped over that because I thought you meant something else --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 12:55:01 AM #262 | And yes, I read you town at the very beginning of the game, so maybe i should stick with that. If you are doctor, you HAVE to die soon. Possibly the next night. So I am cool not lynching you today. The main reason I even think you're scum now is because of how strongly you want to kill me, but thinking about it from your perspective I would PROBABLY do the same??? I dont know, I dont like that you threw away your read of me so fast. I know you saw me block you, but I had already claimed jailer day 2 because i thought I saved VI. It was a jail, not a roleblock. I'm mad Puns doesnt specify that. --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 12:50:52 AM #259 | Thinking about the game from Town Chris perspective, really the only thing that doesnt check out is why he thought nothing of Terra claiming Psychic (Well I'm just waiting for an explanation on that), and why the hell he is still alive today. ANd yes, you can say it is because you were being framed, and that is valid, because I also feel that I am being framed. Chris, if I flip Town, and the game still goes on, what would your next thoughts be? --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 12:46:11 AM #256 | Chris, if you're Town then screw Puns and screw fate, because this is a horrible sequence of events. Even I admit it is hard to call you scum from your counterclaim of Terra. And I really dont want to meta roles anymore after Terra. It's all reads now --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 12:43:31 AM #253 | DoomTheGyarados posted... Yeah and then you have no scapegoats and town VI who is obvious town calling point. You dont think there would be people on my team who would KILL you and make sure you're dead? Now you're assuming I'm scum by myself to push the narrative. Even I would kill doctors first. Both of them. And that is why I jailed you. Really hoped I'd be a hero night 2 --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 12:41:22 AM #251 | DoomTheGyarados posted... Look Ben, you played a good day game. I was convinced you were town until I saw your name pop up. Doctor Psychic is a hilarious role that you had no way of foreseeing. This isn't your fault and I don't expect you to admit it. 'You got me Chris, I'm the scum roleblocker!" Keep fighting the fight my man. That's not even funny. With how things have turned out I admit I look like an easy, easy, easy mislynch for scum. Not going to let it happen. --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 12:37:23 AM #249 | UltimaterializerX posted... benjamin3740 posted...If I was mafia roleblocker, why were you not blocked or killed night 3? This isnt about me even. Here, lets say this. "If there was a mafia roleblocker, why were you not blocked?" Actually I dont believe Ulti being blocked at all. It doesnt fit into the game, unless Mzero is lying and blocked Ulti that night. So either Mzero or Ulti is likely scum. REMEMBER THAT IF I DIE. Or there is some third scum player out there with anohter roleblock which would be blegh >_> --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 12:34:39 AM #247 | DoomTheGyarados posted... I mean if you kill me eaed just becomes doctor in my place. Why not? 2 Nights. perfect time to kill both --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 12:34:05 AM #246 | DoomTheGyarados posted... Oh, of course you don't want to kill me. Eaed becomes doctor anyway and makes it kind of a moot point as far as the protection land scape goes. Better to feed off paranoia and 'boy chris should be dead now' Right. And not kill both doctors? Seriously, my move to block you was supposed to PROTECT you if you were doctor like you said. Imagine my role is Town Jailer. Do my actions not make sense? You've only been following the narrative that I am scum. That's --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 12:31:50 AM #244 | DoomTheGyarados posted... benjamin3740 posted...MZero11 posted...benjamin3740 posted...3 use roleblocker.... That's so disgusting and in any normal game I'd say you're automatic scum. But I really dont even want to meta the setup anymore because Puns is clearly a biatch. With Terra my reads did not match the absurdity of his claims, so I'm gonna put reads at the forefront for the rest of the game. Will come back to Mzero when caught up The reason I said it was disgusting had nothing to do with "3 use". It had to do with you claiming roleblocker while i am jailer. lol --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 12:28:39 AM #242 | Sceptilesolar posted... benjamin3740 posted...Sceptilesolar posted...DoomTheGyarados posted...I... didn't expect Ben to admit it. Yeah I didnt see why Chris would ever counterclaim Terra as scum. Then at the end of day I thought about how powerful Terra's role would sound to scum and that maybe Chris would sacrifice himself to get rid of it. I made a post about this at EOD and Chris responded and then didnt respond to my followup. And Chris, if you were backup psychic, what did you think of terra claiming psychic?? Nothing at all? --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 12:25:14 AM #239 | DoomTheGyarados posted... I use Jailer offensively, as I view a roleblock to be very powerful for town. If Chris the Doctor dies that's a tragedy but it avoids messy situations later in the game where people go "Wow, the guy who immediately called bullshit on the bulllshit claim and is clearly protection through the lens he has played the game so far is alive, HOW STRANGE." It was half used offensively. If you were town, you were going to be targeted by the kill. If you were scum, it was going to be used offensively on you. With me being Jailer, I figured it was 50/50 on your alignment and was the perfect move. --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 12:20:54 AM #234 | DoomTheGyarados posted... "Hey guys, I am scum roleblocker. I blocked Chris night 2 to kill the obvious town and then killed some random night 3 to make him look like shit. WHO LEFT CHRIS ALIVE" You really think that is more likely than what I'm seeing? >_> That I'd keep the doctor alive. You could have stopped night kills. If I was mafia roleblocker, why were you not blocked or killed night 3? --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 12:18:03 AM #232 | MZero11 posted... benjamin3740 posted...3 use roleblocker.... That's so disgusting and in any normal game I'd say you're automatic scum. But I really dont even want to meta the setup anymore because Puns is clearly a biatch. With Terra my reads did not match the absurdity of his claims, so I'm gonna put reads at the forefront for the rest of the game. Will come back to Mzero when caught up Yes. What's that have to do with it? --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 12:17:21 AM #231 | MZero11 posted... and ben is oddly absent as well Was at work. My second day on the job so I wasnt touching my phone, as muchSceptilesolar posted... benjamin3740 posted...Sceptilesolar posted...Also I doubt you would have accepted the Terra/Chris debacle D2 so easily if you were really another strong protection role, after we were busy calling Terra out for the same thing. At that point I was coming to grips with there being 2 protective roles in the game, because I knew they couldn't BOTH be scum --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 12:13:52 AM #228 | DoomTheGyarados posted... I'd just like to point out that I have a great imagination but psychic doctor? I'd have to be high to come up with that. Doctor was your gambit claim to counter the extremely powerful Terra (who turned out to be lying all along, ha!) Psychic is your real role. WHat are you left with? Psychic doctor --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 12:10:49 AM #225 | Nana and Ulti arenot scum together. Write it down for later --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 12:08:02 AM #222 | DoomTheGyarados posted... You know I am a bit sad I was expecting some big confrontation with Ben where he was all like "No! I deny it! You're evil scum Chris pew pew" and me and him would fight over a pit of lava. Chill. I was at work until 10:30 -.- --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 12:05:47 AM #219 | DoomTheGyarados posted... I am sorry I got to live my life long enough to be a psychic doctor who saw the dude who roleblocked him, this game is a train wreck but it is AMAZING. Shouldnt be this excited over a game so complex, and with so few Mafia lynched. (Also, did it say you were rolelocked or jailed?) --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 12:03:54 AM #218 | DoomTheGyarados posted... I think it's because I submitted 'Save VI' Night 2 and I got back that you had targeted me and that I was roleblocked. I think that might be my problem. That's looking at it from a mafia biased perspective. That's something you can lynch me over, not something that makes me scum. If you were jailer, who would you have targeted night 2? (Assuming there was a claimed Doctor out there who was smart and knew who to save - VI ) --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 12:02:12 AM #216 | DoomTheGyarados posted... So I am guessing scum thought it clever to leave me alive to bring TERRIBLE SUSPICION UPON ME by the way I saved sceptile last night. WHy sceptile? --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/31/17 12:01:03 AM #215 | Sceptilesolar posted... Unless he lied about being 1 shot like I did. Turns out that totally works. I did, so that I could use at least one more before being nightkilled. --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/30/17 11:58:37 PM #213 | DoomTheGyarados posted... Your fuck up, by the way, was admitting to blocking me. In this case you go "Chris is talking CRAZY here guys!" but I guess that's inexperience. I said the truth. The honest truth. I'm not going to say anything else. Why dont you have any iota of faith in me? It's because you're trying to frame me? Right? --- |
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| benjamin3740 05/30/17 11:55:50 PM #208 | Sceptilesolar posted... DoomTheGyarados posted...I... didn't expect Ben to admit it. Because I read him Town. T.O.W.N. He was in the *Official* confirmed town book.(Turns out I should always trust in that) Literally the only reason I killed him though was because too much protection. --- |
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