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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies
benjamin3740
05/27/17 4:16:28 AM
#269
But really I felt nothing towny about those votes. Sure you "liked mzero more than those guys", but you spent the end of the day explaining why Chris and Nana were scum, and Eaed and Red basically became "well better them than me" lynches, which I didn't get a sense you thought were THAT scummy until it was time to change your vote to then
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies
benjamin3740
05/27/17 4:13:03 AM
#268
htaeD posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
And if Confirmed town red didnt die. Btw, what does everyone think about the people on the lynch? Whose votes look the worst?

i mean i think Death obviously. Said it even last night


you think anything I do is automatically bad, so thats not saying much
and like I said then and I also said it now
I was voting A. to preserve my own life
B. to keep Mzero alive too who I trusted more than Red and Eaed (at least until Eaed claimed and you pointed out you were also a serial role)
also I already didnt like Red at the time

to be honest, you saying Red was townconfirmed all along makes me like you a lot less
the 'I told you so' attitude comes off as you knowing he'd flip town and were trying to keep your hands clean
and for someone who wanted Red to not die, you didnt try to do a whole lot about stopping his lynch

1. I was calling him confirmed town since his VERY. VERY. VERY first post. Not merely when he was about to be lynched.

2. I did try.

3. And yes, everything you do is automatically bad, because when scum do things it's bad, even when those things appear towny. :D
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies
benjamin3740
05/27/17 3:35:16 AM
#265
Sceptilesolar posted...
Ugh, pj. Very bad.

This night was very interesting for me. I'm curious if someone will have a comment about what just happened.

Sceptile you said this at day start, which implies you had an ability and something happened to it. But then when I say I jailed VI, you vote him. Did your ability not also get redirected to VI?
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies
benjamin3740
05/26/17 11:26:38 PM
#256
DoomTheGyarados posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Sir Chris is Gilgamesh from Fate/Zero.

Chris, if you could refer to us as "Mongrels" in all your posts, that would make my day :D

@Scept: I did that at first, until MK said that he was joking when he claimed. So I threw that read out of the water. My subsequent reads are due to the fact that I know him IRL, and for some reason I can read people way better when i do. Such as my brother when he plays. (Especially the times his roommate accidentally tells me his role, but that is cheating ;) ) . So I could be wrong, sure, but I really think Mk is town.


A mongrel doesn't get to dictate to his king the manner in which they communicate. Don't talk to me with your head unbent again.

(Like that?)

And yes, exactly *.*
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies
benjamin3740
05/26/17 11:25:35 PM
#255
Oh uhh, Sceptile, updated thoughts on VI after the claim?
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benjamin3740
05/26/17 11:04:28 PM
#248
Sir Chris is Gilgamesh from Fate/Zero.

Chris, if you could refer to us as "Mongrels" in all your posts, that would make my day :D

@Scept: I did that at first, until MK said that he was joking when he claimed. So I threw that read out of the water. My subsequent reads are due to the fact that I know him IRL, and for some reason I can read people way better when i do. Such as my brother when he plays. (Especially the times his roommate accidentally tells me his role, but that is cheating ;) ) . So I could be wrong, sure, but I really think Mk is town.
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies
benjamin3740
05/26/17 10:45:52 PM
#233
Sceptilesolar posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
... I have trouble believing you don't know what Gambler is considering it is my favorite role to use as a host and it's pretty common in general.


I've played in multiple games hosted by you and I don't remember that one coming up. Also I've looked at a bunch of different role lists for inspiration to prepare Persona Mafia and also don't remember that one. You may be overrating its popularity a lot.

Either way, this is a dead-end. Let me leave VI and you aside for a second and talk about someone else who I didn't find to look good yesterday. MetaKnight is the person I refer to. I don't think anyone is really expressing very strong opinions on him, except 'is new'. He has been talking a lot but I don't know if he has made any particularly salient points.

You're going after all of my favorite people. Stahp.

Wanna help me kill Death instead?
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies
benjamin3740
05/26/17 10:44:02 PM
#232
Sceptilesolar posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
So it's obvious why we're all serial, as that is to force 1 shotters to use their powers night 1 and get used up by VI. But why is (Town backup nurse) Eaed Serial? What purpose does that achieve? Maybe it was to throw us off. If he were to claim later in the game, I wouldnt believe it for a second and I'd think serial was just to look like other town. But scum couldnt have known about all the serial roles at the time he claimed. And if scum had a serial role in their party, that doesn't give Eaed any reason to think Town is full of serials does it? So yeah, I'm torn because neither side really makes sense why Eaed would claim serial. I'll take the more likely "He's town" side for now though.


We already know for a fact that we aren't all serial.

Oh i know. But I'm asking why Eaed claimed it without knowledge of any serials. Because on one hand that's town points, on the other it missed the point of "serial" and sounds like a fake claim now that VI's role exists
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies
benjamin3740
05/26/17 10:41:38 PM
#230
So it's obvious why we're all serial, as that is to force 1 shotters to use their powers night 1 and get used up by VI. But why is (Town backup nurse) Eaed Serial? What purpose does that achieve? Maybe it was to throw us off. If he were to claim later in the game, I wouldnt believe it for a second and I'd think serial was just to look like other town. But scum couldnt have known about all the serial roles at the time he claimed. And if scum had a serial role in their party, that doesn't give Eaed any reason to think Town is full of serials does it? So yeah, I'm torn because neither side really makes sense why Eaed would claim serial. I'll take the more likely "He's town" side for now though.
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies
benjamin3740
05/26/17 10:08:16 PM
#201
Ultii posted...
You're confirmed and no one died, and if PJ wasn't a fucking idiot town would be in pretty good shape!

And if Confirmed town red didnt die. Btw, what does everyone think about the people on the lynch? Whose votes look the worst?

i mean i think Death obviously. Said it even last night
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies
benjamin3740
05/26/17 10:03:48 PM
#199
VeryInsane posted...
It's 1 use

Every action that is 1 use is completely useless this game, btw

Oh okay. that makes a little more sense. Now I dont feel nearly as special. Thanks VI. Just when I think I'm having a good game, the game shows that it all revolves around you. D:<
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies
benjamin3740
05/26/17 10:00:50 PM
#196
VeryInsane posted...
I am Town Serial Unblockable Universal Lightning Rod

Told you I knew I would be the target of everything

Whaaaaaaa. So do you use it every night or is it 1 use? That's kinda OP if it confirms us both and guarantees that Night 1 goes without a death (assuming me or you aren't lynched), AND makes sure you're the kill Night 2. That's multiple levels of sick and disgusting
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies
benjamin3740
05/26/17 9:37:20 PM
#176
benjamin3740 posted...
Nanahara715 posted...
eaedwards6400 posted...
Here's my claim. I'm a serial nurse. When the doctor dies I can protect town players. The serial part means if I refuse to save someone then I die.


Serial isn't a modifier. The modifier you wanted to use in your fakeclaim is compulsive.

##Unvote
##Vote: Eaed

What if I told you I'm serial. And yeah I'm being super serial right now

And it was before VI did. Although I dont think he saw my post yet since they were close together
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies
benjamin3740
05/26/17 9:35:38 PM
#175
Terra-enforcer posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Was that me? Pretty sure that was me.

Town Serial Jailer [1 use]

*sips tea*

Wait, you're Serial as well? Why didn't you speak up before when eaed claimed?

I did
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies
benjamin3740
05/26/17 9:35:28 PM
#174
Sceptilesolar posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Sceptilesolar posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Oooh. Okay Terra.

I'll say who it was now then, before people think I'm stalling my claim. My final target was VI

However, that was not my initial target. A firebender redirected my lightning


Interesting. This seems very damning to me.


What for? If personal info then I don't need to hear it till you're ready. But what for?


I don't trust VI, especially after yesterday. He ended the day with a weak attack on death and a very suspicious defense of red, as if he already knew red would flip Town. Considering that you also blocked him as a possible cause for the no-kill, he seems likely scum.

Well. Uh. Ya know if there is anyone who looked like they knew Red was Town, it was me. VI looked unsure to me more than anything, so I dont really agree there. I find your vote on VI looks pretty forced, because you dont seem to even be contemplating he miht have been the saved Scum kill target last night. He DID hint at being a power role (Said he was serial something), and is a strong player. Could easily have been targeted last night. Maybe I'm also biased because aside from Death you are my second most suspected player going into today. In fact I almost targeted you last night.

Just feel like you;ve been taking odd sides on a whim and on weak arguments, with Nana on day 1 and now jumping on VI.
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies
benjamin3740
05/26/17 9:31:25 PM
#172
Nanahara715 posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Oooh. Okay Terra.

I'll say who it was now then, before people think I'm stalling my claim. My final target was VI

However, that was not my initial target. A firebender redirected my lightning


If you are town, Redirector likely town then.

Mafia wouldn't redirect you onto their own kill or their killer, not knowing your role.

Oh yeah that is true. And if the redirector is town, then I might as well tell my full story.

Figured I would put all my eggs into the roleblocking aspect of Jailer and target Death, as I'm fairly confident he's Mafia. Could have tried to protect Town, but i did not want to pick the wrong target only to block the potential Town's ability. And given that me and Red are both 1 use abilities, I thought that this might be the only night for Town to use their best abilities. So I went for roleblocking scum to either block their shot or stop their powers. But my PM said my action was successful and redirected to VI.
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies
benjamin3740
05/26/17 9:17:39 PM
#168
Sceptilesolar posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Oooh. Okay Terra.

I'll say who it was now then, before people think I'm stalling my claim. My final target was VI

However, that was not my initial target. A firebender redirected my lightning


Interesting. This seems very damning to me.

##Vote: VI

What for? If personal info then I don't need to hear it till you're ready. But what for?
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies
benjamin3740
05/26/17 9:14:07 PM
#164
Oooh. Okay Terra.

I'll say who it was now then, before people think I'm stalling my claim. My final target was VI

However, that was not my initial target. A firebender redirected my lightning
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies
benjamin3740
05/26/17 9:09:14 PM
#160
Nanahara715 posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Was that me? Pretty sure that was me.

Town Serial Jailer [1 use]

*sips tea*


And you blocked who?

Im not sure yet if I blocked or protected the target. I don't want to say who yet, in case I can trap someone.
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies
benjamin3740
05/26/17 9:07:40 PM
#159
Also it behooves me the amount of people who got nothing from Red talking about his role so much. I figured he was trying to draw a night kill, because who talks like that about their role as scum, and looks like that was confirmed.

I want Death to claim

##Vote: Death
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies
benjamin3740
05/26/17 9:03:38 PM
#155
Was that me? Pretty sure that was me.

Town Serial Jailer [1 use]

*sips tea*
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies
benjamin3740
05/25/17 8:58:39 PM
#141
DoomTheGyarados posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Awww. i thought I was onto something with Red. And guys he's not even here to defend himself >_>

Why him over Death? Do you like Death;s defenses?


For me personally it is something that death pointed out that I had noticed but hadn't gave it thought... there was a lot of dead space between death and I when I was talking about him. Very little movement. That's strange.

Well I was making dinner if you wanna know where I was -.- Death pointed out things like this as scum last game btw. It's one of his favorites. He looks for moments when no one is posting to make his desires look more desirable
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies
benjamin3740
05/25/17 8:57:08 PM
#135
Kinda salty someone on our ***official*** confirmed town list dies day 1
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies
benjamin3740
05/25/17 8:55:18 PM
#125
Awww. i thought I was onto something with Red. And guys he's not even here to defend himself >_>

Why him over Death? Do you like Death;s defenses?
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies
benjamin3740
05/25/17 8:53:04 PM
#116
DoomTheGyarados posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
He's been jumping to the lynch leaders -.-


No he hasn't in fairness. Neither red or I were leading lynch candidates when he voted.

Well not the leaders, but the people getting voted who arent him. There was a jump to Eaed just a second ago before people unvoted after the claim
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies
benjamin3740
05/25/17 8:50:23 PM
#100
He's been jumping to the lynch leaders -.-
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies
benjamin3740
05/25/17 8:50:08 PM
#98
Topicturbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies
benjamin3740
05/25/17 8:47:45 PM
#86
Nanahara715 posted...
eaedwards6400 posted...
Here's my claim. I'm a serial nurse. When the doctor dies I can protect town players. The serial part means if I refuse to save someone then I die.


Serial isn't a modifier. The modifier you wanted to use in your fakeclaim is compulsive.

##Unvote
##Vote: Eaed

What if I told you I'm serial. And yeah I'm being super serial right now
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies
benjamin3740
05/25/17 8:44:23 PM
#74
Okay there's a small aspect of the claim I like.

##Unvote

##Vote: Death


Back to the basics
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies
benjamin3740
05/25/17 8:37:02 PM
#47
htaeD posted...
but at any rate
I concede that it may all just be your work and my personal bias factoring in together here

##Unvote

I still wanna lynch dis guy too though
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies
benjamin3740
05/25/17 8:36:37 PM
#46
Leafeon/Red is immune to being lynched today. He's in the ***official*** confirmed town book. So dont even try it.
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies
benjamin3740
05/25/17 8:34:10 PM
#37
Topicturbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies
benjamin3740
05/25/17 8:33:17 PM
#31
eaedwards6400 posted...
I legitimately don't remember Chris saying anything about Death. On top of that, this flailing like a man child doesn't make any sense to me. When he isn't even the lynch leader!

Also, what's the "dpoesnt make any sense to me" mean? Does that mean he's scum or is that fluff?
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies
benjamin3740
05/25/17 8:32:18 PM
#24
eaedwards6400 posted...
I legitimately don't remember Chris saying anything about Death. On top of that, this flailing like a man child doesn't make any sense to me. When he isn't even the lynch leader!

You havent seen his recent posts asking people why they ignored his accusations of death??? He only complained about that like 4 times in the last hour
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies
benjamin3740
05/25/17 8:31:32 PM
#21
MZero11 posted...
I don't like how eaed got called out for voting Nana over Ben and then backpedaled and voted Ben. It's stinky

anyone else want to lynch eaed?

Yeah I could go back for Eaed. Dont like his last post of throwing shade at Chris.

I stated this in the last topic, but in case anyone missed it, Chris is town *sips tea*
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benjamin3740
05/25/17 8:26:41 PM
#436
Woah, hello Sir Chris.

He's town - look at the frustration. Plus he sounds genuine and committed in his read of me. Dont like how Eaed is still biting at Chris after all that, and for a faulty and untrue reason. The "its not great bob" reads as a huge shade trowing post
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benjamin3740
05/25/17 7:42:22 PM
#365
Sceptilesolar posted...
There's also this fact that I don't like how quiet things are so close to deadline. Feels like scum is content with today's direction. Makes me want to surprise them.

Wait what's today's direction? Isn't it like tied at 2 between a bunch of people.
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benjamin3740
05/25/17 7:41:31 PM
#362
eaedwards6400 posted...
I was once crucified as scum for saying confirmed town about the other players. If you are truly town I would avoid those words unless there are actions ACTUALLY confirming town.

Oh I know, people go after me any time I do it. I just end up being right (except for corrik that one time -.- ), and that's all I care about
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benjamin3740
05/25/17 7:29:05 PM
#350
eaedwards6400 posted...
He's not the exact same. In that game he bussed the hell out of you guys. We don't know if he is bussing yet though. However, you cannot play the same game every time. The thing that bothers me is the activity and the overall type of activity. He's always in here but what has he really offered. That is what reminds me of his Chrono Cross game.

I confirmed 4 towns man ):

Or at least I think my reasoning is pretty strong
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benjamin3740
05/25/17 6:15:45 PM
#297
htaeD posted...
you didnt look at the topic for 2+ minutes?

okay, plausible

but why wait til now to change?

Yeah I was reading people's posts about Mzero, which led into making that post.

Because PJ wont claim, so maybe you will. I think it's very possible you're both scum too.
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benjamin3740
05/25/17 6:11:46 PM
#292
htaeD posted...
also not sure what to make of Ben waiting til Chris shows up to make his move against me

I made my vote on you before I saw his post
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benjamin3740
05/25/17 6:07:59 PM
#288
Sceptilesolar posted...
Nanahara715 posted...
Sceptilesolar posted...
Nanahara715 posted...
I feel like I'm dying IRL.

I still want to lynch Sceptile. Every post since the beginning of the day towards me has been trying to [even preemptively] discredit my role. Some of the mental gymnastics are ridiculous.

I like Ben. Tbqh he's reminding me more of CHrystal Chronicles mafia Ben than previous game's Ben.

No one will convince me Gran wasn't softclaiming and I buy him as town 100%.

Don't like MZero's claim or game but it makes me feel not fuzzy lynching the same guy D1 back to back


Your argument towards me is so weak. I don't trust anyone, no matter how they claim, and I worry that the more role meta gets thrown around, the more likely we are to trap ourselves with our own logic. I don't want to give scum a hole to hide in. I don't like it when you and Ben want to give them that hole.


What hole?


That scum knew that backups were what to claim and someone was bringing it up early on deliberately.

I thought that's the idea you proposed to explain why Nana is scum??
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benjamin3740
05/25/17 6:07:01 PM
#286
What do people think about Mzero besides his claim? Which could go either way imo, and is NOT worth lynching him over

Still dunno if I wanna go for Pj or death. Prolly death
##Unvote

##Vote: Death

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benjamin3740
05/25/17 6:04:13 PM
#282
VeryInsane posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
My thoughts on Red are pretty decisive, since he's already labeled himself as having a weird role. His first post was that this game would be very interesting, and later he made a post saying he feels very sorry for the Town members that rolled normal roles, and that those claims would be brutal. So it's clear he has a weird role. Scum doesn't talk about this stuff out loud. Especially on the first post. If Scum had a weird role they would hide it.

So Leafeon is town unless his role claim ends up not being weird at all, which has been his persona this game


I disagree. I feel like it's extremely easy to hide a weird role if you can make it appear incredibly pro town

There was a game where some people could talk at night (a limited number) and as scum I could converse with people at night and let them share their thoughts to the town. It seemed pro Town, but I was actually scum with that ability.

That's true, but Red hasnt even been trying to make it seem pro town. In fact I'm concerned it's not entirely pro-town, due to his interesting comment. All he has said is that it was a weird role, not attempting to trick anyone into thinking he;s town. That;s why i feel it's honest
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benjamin3740
05/25/17 5:28:26 PM
#259
htaeD posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
htaeD posted...
I cant even recall why MK and Terra come into the mix
leaving aside calling those four confirmed

MK and Terra are strong town reads to me primarily from their posts. There's also Terra saying he's powerful role, which locks him into a non-backup claim and isnt a move I've seen from scum him. Also his response to me calling him town for it was excellent


I see, you're just misusing the word 'confirmed' then

But I'm literally using it right. Literally!

Jk. Yes I know I'm using it wrong, but I like being positive
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benjamin3740
05/25/17 5:26:07 PM
#256
My thoughts on Red are pretty decisive, since he's already labeled himself as having a weird role. His first post was that this game would be very interesting, and later he made a post saying he feels very sorry for the Town members that rolled normal roles, and that those claims would be brutal. So it's clear he has a weird role. Scum doesn't talk about this stuff out loud. Especially on the first post. If Scum had a weird role they would hide it.

So Leafeon is town unless his role claim ends up not being weird at all, which has been his persona this game
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benjamin3740
05/25/17 5:20:37 PM
#251
VeryInsane posted...
Oh

That is a list alright

I'm basically summarizing my thoughts from the rest of the day and figuring out for myself who i want to lynch since I diont have a super strong "Lynch this guy this guy" scum read yet. Every person I listed as seeing town tells from, I did make a post about earlier in the game when i saw them.
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benjamin3740
05/25/17 5:17:54 PM
#250
htaeD posted...
I cant even recall why MK and Terra come into the mix
leaving aside calling those four confirmed

MK and Terra are strong town reads to me primarily from their posts. There's also Terra saying he's powerful role, which locks him into a non-backup claim and isnt a move I've seen from scum him. Also his response to me calling him town for it was excellent
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benjamin3740
05/25/17 5:13:26 PM
#247
Oh never mind, former, I MISSED THAT WORD
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benjamin3740
05/25/17 5:13:04 PM
#246
htaeD posted...
either that or Ben has gotten so warped he can only bus former scummates

Are you my scummate? 0:
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