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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 5 (ft. the end of day 2)
benjamin3740
05/30/17 11:53:41 PM
#205
Sceptilesolar posted...
Nanahara715 posted...
Like, Sceptile's "Oh Chris should have saved VI" is so base with literally no regard for alternative options


Chris should have died N2 if he was town. It's really that simple.

This is 100% true. WHO leaves an infinite use doctor alive 2 nights??? Especially when chris made it clear he was gonna save VI. And now that I think about it, clearly the only reason I am even alive is because Chris saw me block him and I was kept alive to be framed today. Chris is scum
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 5 (ft. the end of day 2)
benjamin3740
05/30/17 11:48:42 PM
#201
Sceptilesolar posted...
Also, Ben, aren't you confirming Chris's claim here? After all, he knew it was you who targeted him. Or do you think he's scum psychic?

Yes.W why not Scum psychic over "Town psychic doctor" ?

We already had a town psychic
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 5 (ft. the end of day 2)
benjamin3740
05/30/17 11:47:57 PM
#200
Nanahara715 posted...
Sceptilesolar posted...
Uh. Chris needs to die. The fact that VI died N2 cannot possibly happen if Chris is telling the truth. I am not willing to concede this point. Why do you want to kill Ulti so badly?

Also, I want to hear about top suspects. Because you see, I have info.


And this is why you fail. Leaning scum on you again, this makes me like Chris better.

Roleblocker could be a thing.

Actually, having a Doctor and a nurse makes sense because it guarantees if Doctor is lynched d1 there is still no kill because the nurse takes over.

HOWEVER THIS MAKES BEN'S ROLE SUPERFLUOUS.

Chris and Ben's roles serve no mechanical reason to exist together. I call one is scum.

How do you know i had more than one use of jailer?
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 5 (ft. the end of day 2)
benjamin3740
05/30/17 11:46:43 PM
#198
UItimaterializer posted...
I got turned into a miller on night 2. When I abandoned backup tracker, I became an enabler. Enabled VI of all people on night 2. He said he had other stuff and I believed him.

Attempted to enable Sceptile night 3. Got roleblocked.

Who the hell roleblocked YOU?
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 5 (ft. the end of day 2)
benjamin3740
05/30/17 11:45:48 PM
#197
Sceptilesolar posted...
Uh. Chris needs to die. The fact that VI died N2 cannot possibly happen if Chris is telling the truth. I am not willing to concede this point. Why do you want to kill Ulti so badly?

Also, I want to hear about top suspects. Because you see, I have info.

Actually, i dont know if Scept and Chris can be scum together because of him going after Chris with Chris' knowledge of me jailing him
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 5 (ft. the end of day 2)
benjamin3740
05/30/17 11:44:18 PM
#195
Kill sceptile.

Going back to read the rest
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 5 (ft. the end of day 2)
benjamin3740
05/30/17 11:43:33 PM
#193
Sceptilesolar posted...
Also I doubt you would have accepted the Terra/Chris debacle D2 so easily if you were really another strong protection role, after we were busy calling Terra out for the same thing.

I didnt accept it. I killed Terra, despite my Strong strong strong town read on him. His claims broke my acceptance meter to shreds
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 5 (ft. the end of day 2)
benjamin3740
05/30/17 11:42:58 PM
#191
Sceptilesolar posted...
Sorry, Ben, I don't trust multiple protective roles in the game. We lynched Terra for that. I'm willing to lynch you for it too.

Is Chris even Doctor?
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 5 (ft. the end of day 2)
benjamin3740
05/30/17 11:42:25 PM
#189
MZero11 posted...
No point in hiding anymore

I'm Town 3-use Roleblocker and Backup Ninja. Blocked Brohan N1 (redirected to VI of course), and again night 2.

##Vote: Chris

Chris has to be scum, no way he lives this long as town... especially after claiming doc

3 use roleblocker.... That's so disgusting and in any normal game I'd say you're automatic scum. But I really dont even want to meta the setup anymore because Puns is clearly a biatch. With Terra my reads did not match the absurdity of his claims, so I'm gonna put reads at the forefront for the rest of the game. Will come back to Mzero when caught up
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 5 (ft. the end of day 2)
benjamin3740
05/30/17 11:37:56 PM
#186
Haven't read anything yet.

I am THREE use jailer. Night 2 I jailed Chris. I thought it was the perfect play. If Chris was town, he was obviously going to be targeting VI. Therefore I saw no reason for the mafia to target VI, as they would instead DEFINITELY be targeting Chris. If there is a doctor, you have to kill the Doctor before you kill the person that you KNOW the doctor is going to target. VI being killed - that alone makes me heavily distrust Chris is doctor.

The reason I did not jail VI is because if Chris was town I knew that he was going to protect VI. Since mafia thought I was 1 use, I didn't think there was any way mafia would target VI. Didn't want to block VI from using an ability since he hinted scan the day before, and really thought Chris would be the target if he was town.

Night 3, VI is dead, my jailer ability is now gone. So I could do nothing last night.

Reating now
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 5 (ft. the end of day 2)
benjamin3740
05/28/17 8:55:03 PM
#32
This just in. HE CLAIMED PRINCESS
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 5 (ft. the end of day 2)
benjamin3740
05/28/17 8:47:45 PM
#21
DoomTheGyarados posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
MZero11 posted...
BTW this is a scum 101 post. Going by the traditional rule of 3 town 1 scum I'd say there's a high chance eaed or Sceptile are scum

lol whatever man. It'll just end up biting you in the ass tonight and then you'll see your pretentious ass isn't as smart as you think you are. Hopefully next time you'll try reading the game and people's actions and behaviors more.

I still stick by my list from before but without ben this time. I think at least 3 of the four I listed have to be scum (assuming there's 4 scum players). Just making sure my ten cents are known before we take this big hit coming our way.

Why didn't you list Chris? If he's the guy that countered you and you're town, wouldn't that make him scum?

OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE I KNEW I WAS FAKING THE ROLE

Thanks for mentioning that actually. That's another thing everyone except ben is overlooking. My reaction to Chris even after I read his claim would be uncharacteristic of a scum player or a true healing role in my position.

You're right about that. There's just too much going against you.

And if Chris is going 1 for 1 just to take out a Protective Jack then screw you ):


He's not a protective jack, mind you. He literally lied!

Yes, but you wouldnt have known that if you're scum at the time you claimed.
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 5 (ft. the end of day 2)
benjamin3740
05/28/17 8:46:15 PM
#17
Meta_Knight123 posted...
#Vote: Tera

. . . . . .
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 5 (ft. the end of day 2)
benjamin3740
05/28/17 8:45:47 PM
#13
Terra-enforcer posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
MZero11 posted...
BTW this is a scum 101 post. Going by the traditional rule of 3 town 1 scum I'd say there's a high chance eaed or Sceptile are scum

lol whatever man. It'll just end up biting you in the ass tonight and then you'll see your pretentious ass isn't as smart as you think you are. Hopefully next time you'll try reading the game and people's actions and behaviors more.

I still stick by my list from before but without ben this time. I think at least 3 of the four I listed have to be scum (assuming there's 4 scum players). Just making sure my ten cents are known before we take this big hit coming our way.

Why didn't you list Chris? If he's the guy that countered you and you're town, wouldn't that make him scum?

OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE I KNEW I WAS FAKING THE ROLE

Thanks for mentioning that actually. That's another thing everyone except ben is overlooking. My reaction to Chris even after I read his claim would be uncharacteristic of a scum player or a true healing role in my position.

You're right about that. There's just too much going against you.

And if Chris is going 1 for 1 just to take out a Protective Jack then screw you ):
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 4: why so serial?
benjamin3740
05/28/17 8:33:30 PM
#445
Maybe the reason he left me on is because he noticed he didnt have enough Town on his list
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 4: why so serial?
benjamin3740
05/28/17 8:29:07 PM
#434
And Terra, if you are town, then you played Psychic Untargetable BEAUTIFULLY, so know that.
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 4: why so serial?
benjamin3740
05/28/17 8:27:00 PM
#428
Well to be fair, Terra, my only reason for not voting you now is so that day doesnt end early

##Unvote: Brohan
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 4: why so serial?
benjamin3740
05/28/17 8:20:22 PM
#414
Well hey, I DID say Terra was Town until he claims, which is when he'd be reassessed. That did kinda happen so...good job me! :{
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 4: why so serial?
benjamin3740
05/28/17 8:15:41 PM
#407
GranAures posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
It does bother me that Terra basically ignored Chris' claim, even when it was shown to him.

Smells like a bus "bothers you" or doesn't want to trying to push a counter lynch on Chris "bothers you"

Well I just dont see how a true Protection Jack wouldnt suspect Chris is scum or at least have some sort of reaction
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 4: why so serial?
benjamin3740
05/28/17 8:11:53 PM
#403
Oh, terra, now that you are being nearly killed, which power did you use night 1 and who did you target?

You have 60 seconds to tell me before I think you're making it up :D
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 4: why so serial?
benjamin3740
05/28/17 8:10:51 PM
#402
It does bother me that Terra basically ignored Chris' claim, even when it was shown to him.
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 4: why so serial?
benjamin3740
05/28/17 8:08:10 PM
#397
Terra-enforcer posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
I assumed the intent of being so transparent/threatening scans was to draw a kill

Not sure why it took so long for someone to even mention this. No point in hiding it anymore since if I survive today scum won't bother killing me as they'll just try for another mislynch.

The more I think about it, I'm glad this is the scenario that occurred as it seems to be revealing a lot about people.

Wait wut. you claimed it before you started getting lynched.

Okay kill him. I was wrong!
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 4: why so serial?
benjamin3740
05/28/17 8:07:18 PM
#392
This is a matter of whether I should only trust my read on someone or go solely off of their role claim, that;s why it's tough for me
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 4: why so serial?
benjamin3740
05/28/17 8:05:55 PM
#389
I'm not gonna vote because I dont want to go against the official book of confirmed town (And if I wouldnt be putting him at -1) but I do think we need to kill Terra to sort things out.
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 4: why so serial?
benjamin3740
05/28/17 8:04:02 PM
#386
Terra-enforcer posted...
VeryInsane posted...
Hey Terra name four scum for me

1. Sceptile
7. eaedwards6400
8. benjamin3740
11. Brohan
12. MZero

Removing the players who I trust or I've gotten a high town read on right now, this is what I'd be left with. Also l definitely lean town in ben's favor but I'll have to reread some of his posts for a better assessment. So without him, that leaves four. Either for poor plays, or coming across as scum to me for one of many reasons.

So why did you even leave me there at all -.-
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 4: why so serial?
benjamin3740
05/28/17 8:01:03 PM
#381
Terra was saying he had a super powerful role in his first post. I assumed the intent of being so transparent/threatening scans was to draw a kill. Which makes sense with "self heal". So yes he either pre-planned his claim incredibly well or we have doctors out the wazoo and Puns is a troll
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 4: why so serial?
benjamin3740
05/28/17 7:54:37 PM
#379
Topicturbopuns mafia topic 4: why so serial?
benjamin3740
05/28/17 7:49:33 PM
#369
Terra, do you actually think it's possible you and Chris exist together?
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 4: why so serial?
benjamin3740
05/28/17 7:43:02 PM
#352
benjamin3740 posted...
If Chris has unlimited use, then I that's too much protection and one of them is lying. But I have to say that is REALLY hard. REALLY hard to accept Terra being Town. He would have had to plan this claim from the beginning. Certainly settled on the claim at the beginning of day 2. And his behavior all game has been so Town Terra.

On the other hand Chris counterclaiming makes little sense unless he is suicidal.

*acceot terra being scum
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 4: why so serial?
benjamin3740
05/28/17 7:41:39 PM
#346
If Chris has unlimited use, then I that's too much protection and one of them is lying. But I have to say that is REALLY hard. REALLY hard to accept Terra being Town. He would have had to plan this claim from the beginning. Certainly settled on the claim at the beginning of day 2. And his behavior all game has been so Town Terra.

On the other hand Chris counterclaiming makes little sense unless he is suicidal.
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 4: why so serial?
benjamin3740
05/28/17 7:35:38 PM
#328
Topicturbopuns mafia topic 4: why so serial?
benjamin3740
05/28/17 7:30:06 PM
#310
I'm also against killing people that are unclaimed and not around to defend themselves

Right now would probably switch to Death, who I still just dont read as town at all.
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 4: why so serial?
benjamin3740
05/28/17 6:41:08 PM
#263
Sceptilesolar posted...
GranAures posted...
This generic quiet is a bit unnerving, didn't feel this quiet at this tike on the proper day 1.


It definitely was. I was the one complaining about it then.

We've got two and a half hours and I don't feel comfortable in the current direction. Are we going to lynch Brohan? That's basically no better than when we lynched Red D1. It's going to be easy because he isn't doing anything. If he doesn't show up, I guess it's probably unavoidable that he gets lynched. He can't just lurk for two straight days and constantly miss deadline. Maybe we get lucky this time but I don't feel too comfortable about it. Not really sure.

If you didnt have such a nice claim I'd be lynching you sooo hard. You voted Red, said you felt "GREAT" about it at the time, and now you're acting like it was such a bad move for us to lynch Red?
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 4: why so serial?
benjamin3740
05/28/17 5:24:42 PM
#243
GranAures posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Well I had Gran on my list of people who I should kill if they claim backup. Time to go look back and look at his day 1 responses to Nana I guess

I tell you what my response was.

I wasn't soft claiming.

The same thing I said during my claim.

Yeah, I dont see an issue looking back.

So your claim is fine to me.
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 4: why so serial?
benjamin3740
05/28/17 5:13:30 PM
#240
Well I had Gran on my list of people who I should kill if they claim backup. Time to go look back and look at his day 1 responses to Nana I guess
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 4: why so serial?
benjamin3740
05/28/17 12:34:35 PM
#148
What's this thing death is talking about? Guess i don't feel like lynching him until I hear what that's all about.

Brohan, Gran, you guys want to role claim plz?
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 4: why so serial?
benjamin3740
05/27/17 8:55:04 PM
#23
##Unvote

##Vote: Brohan


Brohan, you're up for claiming :D
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 4: why so serial?
benjamin3740
05/27/17 8:53:57 PM
#22
benjamin3740 posted...
Sceptilesolar posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Nana I'm taking out of the book of town, temporarily. It all depends on what scum roles flip. If they all (or the majority) end up being serial backups, then Nana and Eaed are off of the confirmed town list. If not, Nana is town for being the first to bring the mindset of being a backup into the game,


Well. You know this is like saying you'll know whether he's scum or not once all the scum have died. A little belatedly, that is.

Nah, I say he;s just town until/if a scum backup flips

Shh, I know I just repeated the same thing shhh
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 4: why so serial?
benjamin3740
05/27/17 8:52:59 PM
#21
Sceptilesolar posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Nana I'm taking out of the book of town, temporarily. It all depends on what scum roles flip. If they all (or the majority) end up being serial backups, then Nana and Eaed are off of the confirmed town list. If not, Nana is town for being the first to bring the mindset of being a backup into the game,


Well. You know this is like saying you'll know whether he's scum or not once all the scum have died. A little belatedly, that is.

Nah, I say he;s just town until/if a scum backup flips
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 4: why so serial?
benjamin3740
05/27/17 8:52:32 PM
#20
I could go for Death or Brohan lynch. VI, why do you think Death is town? I think he;s acting just like his last game. He makes a HUGE amount of posts, but they all raise more questions than they do give answers. Like "This guy did this scummy thing, bt he also did this town thing. Also this guy could still be town. And this guy could still be scum"

Maybe I just dont like death because he's like the opposite of me in terms of playstyle.
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 4: why so serial?
benjamin3740
05/27/17 8:48:40 PM
#18
Nana I'm taking out of the book of town, temporarily. It all depends on what scum roles flip. If they all (or the majority) end up being serial backups, then Nana and Eaed are off of the confirmed town list. If not, Nana is town for being the first to bring the mindset of being a backup into the game,
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 4: why so serial?
benjamin3740
05/27/17 8:46:18 PM
#17
VeryInsane posted...
I am Town, Ben and eaed are likely Town. I lean Town on Death, Sceptile, and MK through my intuition. I will humor Ulti and say he's town

2. Nana
4. GranAures
5. Terra-enforcer
10. DoomTheGyarados
11. Brohan
12. MZero

Interesting crew here

Terra is Town. The book of confirmed town says so. And the weaker of those reasons is because his posting style sounds exactly like what I would expect of Town Terra. Some games he is more active, but he has also been very distant from the game as Town before. So presence/activity is not an issue there. (Thinking of that game he was Town Looper). Even without knowing his meta, i like his posts. But the strongest reason is because of how open he has been with his role the whole game. He's been hinting at many things, and has been transparent to the point of maybe even exaggerating his powers (Threatening scans on people, etc.). Dont think he;s the type of guy who'd do that as scum
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies
benjamin3740
05/27/17 6:37:48 PM
#407
MysticBrohan posted...
town:
vi
ben
scept
gran

scum:
nana
ea
mzero
ulti?


Oh here's a fun little list of Brohan's I found. People can meta that if they want or whatever

@MysticBrohan - Have these reads changed since this post? And how much so?
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies
benjamin3740
05/27/17 6:35:24 PM
#406
htaeD posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Yes, I agree, we do have too many backups. ...Death to Death!


at this point you are so one-note I have to ask if you even remember why you called me scum to begin with

Yeah I remember why. Just re-read your posts in topic 1 and I dont find anything that contradictory. What was your reason for asking Nana whether his backup Miller joke was a joke or not?
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies
benjamin3740
05/27/17 6:22:13 PM
#401
Yes, I agree, we do have too many backups. ...Death to Death!
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies
benjamin3740
05/27/17 3:20:50 PM
#372
Death, My PJ vote was just trying to get him to claim. He posted literally nothing of substance, so I never had a true read on him Town or scum, and thought claiming would be the solution to figuring out what he is faster before he drifts by. Thought i was making that clear yesterday.

Death, what are your real reasons again for suspecting Chris?
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies
benjamin3740
05/27/17 2:21:11 PM
#348
Sceptilesolar posted...
##Vote: Chris

Why do tomorrow what you can do today?

Woah, I might have said "high" but I clearly said "chance". Don't take a chance over ***official*** confirmed scum!

Jk,you can do what you want
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies
benjamin3740
05/27/17 2:11:11 PM
#344
MZero11 posted...
I would rather not mass claim tbh

What for?
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies
benjamin3740
05/27/17 2:09:58 PM
#343
I feel a lot better about Sceptile after the claim. Figured he was either that role or scum, since it fits with his behavior at the start of the day. If he's the only cop in the game then I totally believe him. (And I doubt scum would claim cop like this if they saw a possible counterclaim happening)

If Scept is Town and Death is Scum, I actually think there's a high chance Chris is scum.
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Topicturbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies
benjamin3740
05/27/17 2:04:06 PM
#341
Mass claim! Mass claim! I'm all for it. Let's go. Death can go first ^__^
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