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Can't say I encountered it all that often

SmokeMassTree posted...

They are still here. This new crop of "girls" is undoubtedly one or both of them.

What new girl posters?

The first two tiles, smooth and textured, are going into production this summer. They decided to go with those tiles first because they received the highest number of inquiries.

A $1,000 USD deposit is required when ordering a system online now. Homeowners outside of the US can also order, but they should not expect installation until next year. Musk said that he expects strong demand and for the company to be production constrained on the tiles.

Tesla says that it will manage the entire “Solar Roof experience—from the removal of your existing roof through design, permitting, installation, operations and maintenance of the new Solar Roof.” The company estimates that the installation should take roughly the same time to install as a tile roof installation, which is typically 5-7 days.

They recently updated their mobile app in order to prepare for the integration of the solar products and the Powerwall.

Musk concluded the press call by saying: “When you think of a sustainable energy future, you want roofs to be beautiful and generate energy from the sun. That energy can then charge Powerwalls and electric vehicles. That’s the future we want.”

Tesla solar roof products are perfect for homeowners who want solar and need a new roof relatively soon, but a regular solar panel installation is still a good solution for people who don’t need a new roof. Solar and energy storage prices are highly dependent on your market (electricity cost, gov incentives, etc.) and your property. We suggest to get quotes from more than one installer to make sure you get the best energy solution for your place. UnderstandSolar is a great free service to link you to top-rated solar installers in your region for personalized solar estimates for free.

Tesla released today all the information to order its new solar roof tiles products – starting with the smooth black glass tiles and the textured glass tiles, as reported earlier today.

Of course, the most important information that people were waiting for is price. CEO Elon Musk first hinted that it would be cheaper than a regular roof after accounting for energy savings, and later said that Tesla’s solar roof could cost less than a regular roof – even before energy production.

Tesla pretty much delivered on both depending on how you look at it.

The company says that the “typical homeowner can expect to pay $21.85 per square foot for a Solar Roof.”

What is important to understand is that not all tiles on the roof would be solar tiles. It depends on the energy needs of the household and shading coming from structural items such as dormers. For the house pictured above, all the tiles are from Tesla, but only some of them have solar cells in them that can generate electricity – though it’s not visible from street view.

The $21.85 per square foot price point was calculated for a roof where 35 percent of the tiles are solar (solar tiles cost more per square foot than non-solar tiles). During a conference call with journalists today, Musk said that in some cases, depending on the roofs, customers will be able to have up to 70% solar tiles, but in most cases, it will be about 40%.

They released a calculator directly on their website, which any homeowner in the US can use to get an estimate based on data from Google’s Sunroof project. Here’s an example for a home in Maryland with both 70% solar coverage and 40% solar coverage:

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Ultimately, Tesla sees that most customers will essentially be paid to have a new roof, when accounting for energy generation and the solar incentive.

They are including an installed 14kWh Powerwall 2 in the quotes. It can be removed, but Tesla believes that most people will want to have the home battery pack for backup energy in case of an outage.

Tesla broke down the cost of both its solar tiles and non-solar tiles against traditional roof solutions.

The company estimates that its non-solar tiles are cheaper than regular tiles and its solar tiles are cheaper than anything else, but only when accounting for energy generation (actual cost of solar tiles is $42/sq-ft):

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The value of Tesla’s solar roof is closely linked to its durability and its ability to generate electricity over decades.

Musk previously discussed the possibility of making the warranty last for the lifetime of the house on which it is installed and they actually did it:

“Made with tempered glass, Solar Roof tiles are more than three times stronger than standard roofing tiles. That’s why we offer the best warranty in the industry – the lifetime of your house, or infinity, whichever comes first.”

That’s for the tiles themselves. The solar power generation is guaranteed for 30 years, which is on the higher end in the solar panel industry:

https://electrek.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/screen-shot-2017-05-10-at-1-20-59-pm.png?w=1024&h=388

During a conference call with journalists, Musk and Peter Rive reiterated their confidence in the new product’s durability, which ultimately, of course, is reflected in the warranty.

They put these through every test imaginable, including shooting a large ball of hail:

https://electrek.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/tesla-solar-roof-gif.gif?w=1000&h=280

It’s unclear who may have orchestrated the comments. A line of the language used in the comment, specifically about the “unprecedented regulatory power [of] the Obama Administration,” has some resemblance to a 2010 press release from the Center for Individual Freedom, a conservative, anti-net neutrality group.

We contacted the group to ask whether it had organized a campaign to send this message. “Yes, the Center for Individual Freedom is asking our supporters and other activists across the nation to submit comments,” a spokesperson said. “It shouldn’t come as a surprise that the wording [of the email] is similar to the wording CFIF used in 2010 as our messaging on this general issue has been consistent for nearly a decade.”

The spokesperson said that CFIF had sent emails to supporters and posted a form with the text on “digital media platforms across the internet,” allowing people to sign their names and addresses. They also provided a screenshot of the form, posted here. This doesn’t mean the CFIF is behind this spamming campaign. But it’s plausible that whoever sent the bogus comments used this form (or at least the message from it) to do so. “Your question about the possibility of someone corrupting the effort is something we need to look into,” said the spokesperson.

Meanwhile, the FCC comment thread has been a source of controversy for other reasons. After Oliver’s plea, the comment system became intermittently inaccessible. For a time, it was widely believed that traffic directed by Oliver had overwhelmed the FCC’s system. But the agency later said it was hit by denial-of-service attacks that rendered the system inoperable.

It’s unclear how, or if, traffic from Oliver — as well as the apparently automated comments — may have played a role, but two senators and some activist groups have requested more information on the DDoS incident. Comments on the net neutrality thread will be accepted until mid-August.

This week, thousands posted comments on the FCC’s website in response to a proposed rollback of net neutrality internet protections, weighing in on whether and how to defend the open internet. John Oliver encouraged viewers to post to a public comment thread with support for strong regulation, and a massive number of people did so. But many others appeared to have a different point of view.

“The unprecedented regulatory power the Obama Administration imposed on the internet is smothering innovation, damaging the American economy and obstructing job creation,” read thousands of identical comments posted this week, seemingly by different concerned individuals. The comment goes on to give a vigorous defense of deregulation, calling the rules a “power grab” and saying the rollback represents “a positive step forward.” By midday Tuesday, the thread was inundated with versions of the comment. A search of the duplicated text found more than 58,000 results as of press time, with 17,000 of those posted in the last 24 hours alone.

The comments seem to be posted by different, real people, with addresses attached. But people contacted by The Verge said they did not write the comments and have no idea where the posts came from.

“That doesn’t even sound like verbiage I would use,” says Nancy Colombo of Connecticut, whose name and address appeared alongside the comment.

“I have no idea where that came from,” says Lynn Vesely, whose Indiana address also appeared, and who was surprised to hear about the comment.

The people said they have no special link to FCC activism or the telecommunications industry, and could not think of any time they had knowingly entered their information for a similar campaign. “This is definitely not my style,” Colombo says. “This sounds like a hacker or an outsider.” Others contacted by ZDNet also denied posting the comments.

Groups on both sides of the net neutrality debate have long tried to organize grassroots campaigns, and some have turned to forms of automation, using techniques such as asking people to fill out an auto-generated form, or suggesting a specific message to send to the FCC. After Oliver’s call to action, several people posted variations of Oliver’s suggested language, and some used obviously fake identities to do so.

Versions of a different anti-net neutrality comment were also appearing on the thread two weeks ago, but the fact that real identities are being used without permission is a strange twist. The FCC declined to comment on whether it was aware of the comments or whether it has dealt with similar issues in the past.

WastelandCowboy posted...

I don't keep tabs on GameFAQs users.

WastelandCowboy posted...

Today I learned that Helly has a wife and they live in Illinois.

You do now.

Besides everybody lies on their resume (especially excel....... if you don't know macros you are not advanced bruh/sis)

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WastelandCowboy posted...

You're taking a job from someone

No.

Yeah, the job isn't yours if you don't have it.

Besides, most adults don't know anything about anything. They just make it up as they go along. Probably.

you gun get cat scratch fever

WastelandCowboy posted...

And it's one hour. That's approximately one cheeseburger every 1.2 minutes, with no break to let your stomach or mouth rest. It's very likely you'd vomit or would have trouble eating at one point.

The heck are you even talking about? Says 24 hours in the OP. Even doing this solo that's roughly a burger every 15 minutes.

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SilentSeph posted...

I think my heart would stop along the way. I wouldn't have much use for any money at that point.

Exactly, I'm laughing at the ppl saying they could do it tbh. I mean you can but..

It's just 50 cheeseburgers in 24 hours. It's not going to kill you. It's not going to clog your arteries. It won't give you a heart attack or a stroke. Sodium could be an issue. But that can be lessened by making them yourself, not adding salt and using half a slice of low sodium, uncured bacon.

As a one time event it's not going to have any long term health effects. You'll be uncomfortable for a day from over eating and it would suck but you'll be ok.

Who are you to say this? You don't know the health history of other people.

And it's one hour. That's approximately one cheeseburger every 1.2 minutes, with no break to let your stomach or mouth rest. It's very likely you'd vomit or would have trouble eating at one point.

grasping at straws and a lack of reading comprehension. what a great post

WastelandCowboy posted...

Today I learned that Helly has a wife and they live in Illinois.

you learned it just now?

you know I got a kid too, right

this trailer old af fam bae this is not lit

Balls are some of the most important things in the world. Without balls, the human race would face extinction.

I sign my entire name and it's legible.

Person106 posted...

Tc has nostalgia feels for the 1270s.

The 1970s-1990s seem like such a terrible time to have been alive.

Why?

Everything just seems so low quality, tacky, and conservative.

I'm sorry, if I was a guy or a girl and some guy offered me a mill to sleep with them, I'd freaking talk to my wife/husband about it first, but i'd be totally for it (and same if they wanted to sleep with my partner), cause yeah, freaking a mill for 1 night of sex is totally worth it.

I mean, if your rich already, then fine, pass it up, but otherwise your freaking insane not to go through with it. Gives you so much more freedom to enjoy yourlife and make a difference.

Indecent proposal...yeah right....how many people would really turn that down? Honestly I think most guys would agree to having sex with another guy for that much.

The_Beta_Male posted...

tc why do u care? i dont think u give a shit you just want to make a topic that gets replies

what has internet message boarding been reduced to? this is no way to get yourself known on a board of gimmick posters, tc

Is this dude really throwing a tantrum?!

WastelandCowboy posted...

Maybe.

I'd need to know if she's free of sexually-transmitted diseases and is on the pill. While I'd definitely wear a condom, I'm still not going to put it in unless I know for a damn fact that if the condom breaks, the chance of her getting pregnant is slim-to-nill.

Not going to risk a payout of $105k after sex with some random and unknown woman if I'll end up having to pay it back in child support.

He didn't say it was a woman or someone of the opposite sex. You can't know till after you agree or disagree. Could be a dude.

also, thanks Wasteland. You're the one who bought me this game lolol

WastelandCowboy posted...

Mead posted...

I actually enjoy FO4 a lot more if I don't use VATS

This.

Replaying Fallout 4 on Survival mode.

Getting KO'd at the start easily.

I have mods for that. You take full damage in vats. So you can still die if you use it at the wrong time.