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KCF0107 posted...

Dhurke did not come out and say that it was Nah in the photo despite having conversations set up that he could and should have. I'm having a bad feeling that it will be Rayfa or Nah.

I meant Ahlbi at the end. I realize that I forgot to come up with some pre-trial theories since that's what is next. I will have those tomorrow.
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1. Hey Apollo, I've got a big secret
2. Hey Apollo, I can't tell you
3. Hey Apollo, I'd be betraying someone if I told you
- I do not know what I dislike more, the over-reliance on amnesia/passing out or the constant, empty teases

I guess Rayfa's bizarre sound effect is from her punching. It sounds like she has some rare form of brittle bone disease solely concentrated on her fists.

Anyway, Inga having the photo in his safe must have been leverage against Ga'ran, so it would seem she still has the biggest motive. However, someone went through that safe earlier. We also don't know about Nayna.
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I can't even show Dhurke the photo of Amara. Ugh, I hate it when they force me to find out something I figured out on their own terms.

"He [Inga]'s probably in hell now being tormented by those he wrongfully put to death." - Dhurke
- So all people basically go to hell in Khura'inese? I can't imagine who's left if even the wrongfully accused earn a one-way ticket to eternal torture.

With Dhurke's evasiveness, I now have more questions than answers regarding the butterfly pendant found at the crime scene.

I'm glad that not only my suspicions about the Amara photo are proving to be correct, but we are addressing them now before court. I knew it, she is alive! Dhurke did not come out and say that it was Nah in the photo despite having conversations set up that he could and should have. I'm having a bad feeling that it will be Rayfa or Nah.
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Yep, they are being chased in a bad way. I guess they know Apollo has the Founder's Orb, but I can't imagine how. Phoenix handed over evidence to Apollo, so I guess the overlapped evidence was indeed pointless.

Surprise, surprise, Amara was drugged before the fire. That being said, I didn't know that you could run a conclusive toxicology report on a charred body. Not only that, but her sarcophagus was meant to preserve her body right? Something doesn't add up.

More in unexpected news, Apollo's father's death is involved in all of this. Well, unless his name is different that what I was told, I expect us to do a seance on him. Seeing as including Apollo's father in all this has added nothing of value, I'm going to assume that he will have died try to save a life or did something nefarious.

I wanted to bring this up before because I wasn't sure, but now I am certain that Dhurke's law book should not be in that photo with Amara. Dhurke branded that book after the DCA, but the DCA wasn't conceived until after Amara's death. This can only suggest that Amara did not die in the fire. This also means that the person that Inga was originally referring to in regards to harming someone that Dhurke loved was actually Amara. The question is if Dhurke knew that he was referring to Amara. If that is also what they held over Nah, then that means Nah also knows. Man, these guys are assholes withholding that information. I bet that during the upcoming trial, Rayfa will be unable to seance Amara and will have to do Jove instead.

Yeah sure, give Datz the Founder's Orb. I can't think of a more reliable person for such a task.
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Manos: The Hands of Fate for PC
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MenuWars posted...

Honestly I loved the gameplay, but the characters were all awful imo.

Gameplay is easily the best part of the game. I wouldn't say all the characters are awful. Vincent so far has basically no redeeming qualities, and Catherine/Katherine are idiots. The rest are basically there to remind Vincent that he has no redeeming qualities or fail to deceive the player into thinking he has some.

I finished Quadrangle and am now at Clock Tower. For whatever reason, I was absolutely in the zone in Quadrangle's "boss" stage. I fully expect to fall back down to earth now.
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Should provide an update later
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First game that I spent 3+ hours straight on since probably Life is Strange
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Jenova
Coastline
D4
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I unintentionally have 60 retries available at the start of the third stage of Quadrangle. I don't feel like I suck that bad, but I haven't earned a gold award for any stage far.
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Cobalt
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Trade is made in the game, but it won't be reflected in the spreadsheet until next week
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Finally beat that stage. At least I now have a lot of breathing room for future ones.
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Vampire Legends: The True Story of Kisilova and Eventide: Slavic Fable for PC
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Ahlbi has Nayna's hat, and he got it outside of Inga's quarters. Could Nayna be part of Inga's personal network?

Ahlbi apparently saw Ga'ran channel a spirit. If that holds up, one of my major possible theories goes down the drain. He saw it at 2:10 too. That seems a little early for Ga'ran to have left Amara's sarcophagus unlocked so that she could channel Amara and use her to kill Inga from her actual grave. Oh wait, why was I thinking that spirit channeling involved you placing your soul into the body of a corpse? Disregard all that.

Ahlbi claims that Ga'ran was channeling a spirit for a neighboring kingdom's king. Is it odd that my biggest question is how the fuck would Ahlbi know that person was the king from another land? That photo does nothing to prove that she was spirit channeling. It looks exactly like Ga'ran when we all know that you change your appearance to the person that you are channeling.

The royal guard is chasing Apollo or Athena. They could either be following those two to something important or they are trying to apprehend them. I assume it is the latter and it's all Athena's fault.
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The safe combination was Rayfa's birthday, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the 1224 key was meant to represent that. The contents do suggest that Inga cherished Rayfa, but would anybody be so idiotic that they would write themselves a useless note that says that they intend to kill their wife and the reasons why, let alone keep it in their room? That screams "FAKE!"

The photo inside is clearly Amara and presumably Nah, but I guess Phoenix doesn't know what she looks like yet and might not know of the Shadmadi...Samhadi...Dhurke's family! I don't really know why it is in the safe though. I suppose it is possible that Inga was not married to Ga'ran back then, and he was contracted to kill the person in that photo. I don't know why he would keep it in that scenario. I also don't know why the person who planted the note in the safe (assuming the writers don't suck at their jobs) would then take it if it was Ga'ran. Is Nayna, like a horrible person? I'm not sure how I would react to her being the main villain. Anyway, I'm just spitballing ideas.

Back to the contents of the safe, it is interesting that the only thing he had of his wife in there was that note that he totally wrote. If this is the frame job that I am desperately hoping it is, then I can actually see any such items that he had of his wife being taken out.

I am going to see how long I can put off seeing Ahlbi since I know I have to confront him soon. I don't hate him, but he doesn't really ever say anything interesting. I went to see if I could show Ga'ran the photo of her sister and nephew. No dice. The game then made me confront Ahlbi.
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"as if" - Edgeworth on Phoenix playfully asking if he was missed in the US
- I totally read that in a sassy teenager voice. I really wish more than three lines were voiced by people other than Rayfa during a seance and the trial gallery.

I have a feeling that this dog that seems to be important to the case is the one that tags along with Ahlbi.

Inga's Quarters Info Dump:
- Old, muddy footprints come from the outside and lead who knows where inside
- Inga took painkillers for his back via syringe
- There's a safe
- There's a notebook of physical characteristics of various characters

Nayna is currently AWOL. Nayna is Rayfa's teacher in all things. Interesting that Nayna must either have spiritual power or is so intimately familiar with spiritual power to instruct Rayfa on how to harness and use hers. Lol, Edgeworth is now Nayna's stand-in.
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When are we going to get around to seeing this evidence that Dhurke supposedly falsified to get him acquitted of murdering his wife? Knowing how Ace Attorney operates, it won't be until well into the trial.

Going to the bazaar is going to bring back Ahlbi isn't it? Oh, it's a potential suspect in either case, Datz. Yes, Datz did what I was hoping he would do and throw a firecracker at Rayfa! For further amusement, I will pretend he threw it directly at her face.

Phoenix, Edgeworth, and Rayfa. A real dream (investigation) team if there ever was one. "No one would dare get in our way" - Phoenix on teaming up with Rayfa
- Atta boy Phoenix, use Rayfa's status to your advantage!

Inga and Ga'ran had different living quarters? Maybe it's nothing and that's just a cultural thing, but maybe their marriage was on the rocks.
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What the hell was Rayfa hitting Phoenix with that make such an odd sound effect?

Inga wasn't just planning on gaining spiritual power but take the throne? I'm not buying that right now since I am sure that Ga'ran played a prominent role in at least one of the murders. It is possible for it to be true, and that provided motive for Ga'ran to kill Inga. She would also be able to get Dhurke to take the fall and make it less likely that someone would discover she was the arsonist from way back, or something to that effect.

I'm also putting it out there that we haven't seen Ga'ran use her spiritual power, and I'm not certain that we've had confirmed reports of her doing stuff like channeling or performing that seance ever. Another possible theory of mine is that both Inga and Ga'ran plotted the arson, getting the orb's secrets figured out by Archie, and use it so (likely) Ga'ran has spiritual powers to ensure her place on the throne. Inga then fucked things up, and Ga'ran had a contingency plan as an insurance policy.

Ga'ran was the previous Minister of Justice. I am feeling better about a potential mutually beneficial murder plot regarding Amara.
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Yeah Apollo, you totally "won" against Phoenix. There certainly weren't any mitigating circumstances.

Whew, when the "To Be Continued" screen popped up, I was worried that we were already going to trial. Oh thank god, I am back to being Phoenix and Edgeworth is tagging along!

"I didn't come all the way to Khura'in to be useless" - Edgeworth
- If only everyone adopted that attitude and meant it

Two sets of evidence with overlap? Will Apollo and Phoenix be heading separate trials? It is probably more likely that we will have one of those Magatama locks that require this evidence.

What kind of queen addresses a guest from another land as barbed lawyer?
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Emeraldegg posted...

Panthers get:
OLB Cato June (32 y/o, 81 rating)
Patriots 3rd rd pick

Patriots get:
DT Anthony McFarland (34 y/o, 86 rating)

Unless a flood of vetoes come in the next five minutes, this will be official
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This game is okay almost halfway through (still stuck on the last stage of Inquisition). Story is predictable but hasn't quite wandered into cringe-worthy yet despite having such an unlikable, spineless lead. Gameplay is decent but marred by a poor, slow camera and no tab to look at all those techniques that they keep showing you.
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I have almost tripled the amount of retries in my possession in during the "boss" stage of Inquisition.
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I typically don't have to
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I kind of do that. I write raw thoughts into a notebook. Later, I go through them seeing what I should cut, refine and combine. Then I post those revisions when I can.
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So the time I had available to take my laptop somewhere to provide an update I set aside for a roofing company to check into a leak. They never showed.
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I will always associate Eric Andre with his amazing line in The Invention of Lying.
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ninkendo posted...

such Central

The best, well who's on top anyway.
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WhiteLens posted...

Someone doesn't know what Golden Week is.

Count me among those numbers
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Sure
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KCF0107 posted...

Dhurke got dizzy and doesn't remember what happened in Amara's Tomb. Is this the new amnesia for Japan?

this is the worst, and it's practically required for most cases to work these days.

I think only the first case had the defendant or a key witness not pass out during a murder.
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Amara was allegedly killed when an arsonist set her home on fire. Dhurke was married to her. Go figure. Fuck, I forgot that Nah was probably going to be the prosecutor for this trial.

Info dump investigating the crime scene:
- Inga died from a single stab wound to the back
- ETD was 3 PM
- Crime scene was sealed off
- Motive for abducting Maya might not be what it seems (possibly kidnapped for Ga'ran who in turn killed Inga when things went south)
- Tomb is located at the same spot where Amara died
- Tomb Diagram shows a clearly broken statue
- Said broken statue has two magatamas nearby
- Bullet that matched Inga's gun found near broken statue
- Bloody butterfly pendant without fingerprints also near broken statue. Blood belonged to Inga, and I associate Nah with butterflies
- Bloodstain on and below chair that Maya was tied to. It leads to Amara's sarcophagus. The blood does not belong to Dhurke, Maya, or Inga
- Alleged murder weapon has an unidentifiable second set of fingerprints
- Inga was killed instantly being stabbed in the back and fell forward, yet there's a lot of blood on the sarcophagus when there was not enough space for the assailant to be behind him unless they were on/in the sarcophagus
- Inga's gun had room for four bullets in the chamber. The chamber is empty, and only one bullet was recovered. The gun is also broken, believed to be after it fired
- Amara's sarcophagus is locked. It is temperature-controlled, and is kept cold enough to preserve a body
- An emerald button from Inga's jacket is in a trough full of ask. It also has soot all over it
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Ugh, I have to be Apollo with Athena tagging along instead of Phoenix, Edgeworth, and Maya. Why are you doing this to me?

It cost $800 million in Khura'inese currency to build a tomb for a single individual, and none of it came at the expense of the royal family. They must have studied how sports stadiums are financed in the US. They even said that the local economy received a "huge boost." NOW I am certain that the royal family is a modern sports team owner. I am going to lie to myself and say that the writers intentionally made that symbolic social commentary.

Dhurke hasn't even been found guilty of assassinating Amara, not that we can rely on what anybody in the criminal justice system's word in this alternate universe.

Dhurke got dizzy and doesn't remember what happened in Amara's Tomb. Is this the new amnesia for Japan?

It appears this might be a double trial. This is going to be soooooo long.
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Inga is dead and Dhurke is standing over him with a knife and blood on his clothes. Things got heated rather quickly! At least I already know who will be my client this case.

Since there's a really high chance that Dhurke did not kill Inga, I doubt that they would make it so a dead guy was responsible for the death of Amara and Apollo's father (assuming the latter is in fact dead and was murdered), the current queen (Ga'ran?), Datz, and Nah seem to be in the culprit pool right now for all outstanding, unresolved deaths.

Yeah, like I'm going to believe that Dhurke managed to get free from all the guards subduing him and threw the orb at Apollo without anyone but Apollo noticing.

Over 10 year since Apollo left Khura'in? Now over 10 years could mean 20, 50, or 1999, but I was under the impression that Apollo's stay in Khura'in was a brief one, and they are suggesting that he was there for 5-10 years. That's not exactly brief, especially in the life of a child.

Datz was not with us as soon as we left the plane in Khura'in. Interesting...
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Dhurke referred to the benefactor as a little snot. That's either a condescending remark or he truly means a child. There is no chance in hell that it's Rayfa. Right? Dhurke says it is Inga, so condescending remark it is! Inga is threatening Nah's safety, but there's no loss there!

Miles finally makes his appearance. I guess we need Butz, Gumshoe, and Oldbag to complete the team. Oh, and Mia would have to be undead. Being channeled won't cut it.

Poor Trucy is left behind. She's more useful than Athena, but I am guessing this means that the next (and final?) trial will include Widget. If not, heads will roll.

Inga is listed as the same age as Datz and Dhurke. That cannot be a coincidence. I wouldn't be surprised if Apollo's father turns out to have been born the same year as well.

Oh yeah, I totally forgot about the previous queen being murdered. I previously said that Inga or the current queen killed her. I guess we will likely resolve that this case as well.
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