Lurker > KanzarisKelshen

Well, my counterargument would be - would you argue 'full knowledge of the enemy team's capabilities' should include knowing that when teams meet, one of the merc will instantly KO one of your own mercenaries, for example? It feels like it shouldn't. I can't really offer a better explanation except that it feels very wrong for meta stuff like abilities to be known outside of things that explicitly grant 'match writeup information', like Psycho Mantis' Castlevania ability. Hopefully that makes sense.
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@Mewtwo59
@DoomTheGyarados

The floor is yours.
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An Energy Totem has been installed at the centre of the terrain. It as as durable as it is in Turok 2: Seeds of Evil, and for as long as it is active, Grigor will be imprisoned in place at their starting point, unable to move or perform any actions. He will only be freed if the Energy Totem is successfully destroyed.

Joshua Fireseed is as he appears in Turok 2: Seeds of Evil, equipped with the Cerebral Bore, Firestorm Cannon, Plasma Rifle, Razor Wind, Scorpion Launcher and some Sunfire Pods.

Senator Steven Armstrong is as seen in his boss fight in Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance, with access to all of his powers and abilities. He cannot access Metal Gear Excelsius. During this match, It Has To be This Way will play loudly all over the terrain.

Ellie is as she appears in the endgame of Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE, equipped with the Pinaka and a Godly Emblem, with all Radiant skills other than Endless Act and Endless Song, and no Extra skills. Virion is an Assassin with the Command skills Grand Tack, Myriad Arrows, Thunder Strike, Inferno Strike, Overload, Power Charge and Stealth, as well as the Passive skills Bow Expertise EX, Elec Expertise, Fire Expertise, Absorb Elec, Shura's Soul, Dodge Feather and Pierce. She has been stabbed through the stomach with Jaesa's lightsaber, dealing damage and causing an incurable bleed effect. She will lose blood at a steady pace over the course of the fight, eventually dying from blood loss, depending on her composition.

Raiden is as seen in Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance with access to all of his weapons (save the Fox Blade) and upgrades available in that game. He doesn't require Zandatsu to recover. He has access to roughly one full bar of energy for Blade Mode. He has no mysterious lightning powers here, either. He has access to unlimited Ripper Mode for this week's battle.

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It's time for Jack...to LET 'ER RIP! FIGHT!
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Grigori, Jaesa Willsaam, Flynn and Haseo have challenged Raiden, Turok, Senator Steven Armstrong and Ellie to a fight! Location of the fight: Metal Gear Excelsus - The wreckage of Metal Gear Excelsus as seen in the final phase of Armstrong's boss fight. The attacker team starts in Raiden's starting location, whereas the defenders will start at Armstrong's. The area surrounding Excelsus is accessible, and fighters are not limited to the circular arena.. Which side will win?

Guidelines

- The fight will occur in real-time (like an FMV sequence). Gameplay mechanics are less important than how the characters would function in a real-time environment.
- The members of each team are ideal teammates capable of a pre-selected plan of battle.
- "Broken" refers to a lot of things, including insta-death, auto-effects, a variety of status effects (e.g., Imp, Silence, Stop, *not* Poison), and revival. Unless stated otherwise, nobody has them, though do use your own discretion.
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Sega has won the console wars! Grigori, Flynn, Haseo and Ellie will enjoy a 50% parameter buff for the whole match.

Grigori is as he appears in Dragon's Dogma, with access to all his moves except possession. A fighter does not have to be an Arisen to deal the final blow to him.

Jaesa Willsaam is as seen in SW:TOR, using her best equipment, fully leveled and with access to all of her role skills and other abilities, as well as cutscene powers (though no mind control or anything else that would fall under the 'broken' clause). All of her attacks in the fight will ignore armour and cause internal damage.

Haseo has the best armor, weapons, and skills from the end of .hack//G.U. Vol. 2. He does not have access to any Alchemized items, the Doppleganger weapons, or battle items (potions, scrolls, etc.). He has gained a 50% strength boost, and any of his projectiles will become darkness based and gain slight homing properties. His personality has been altered to care only for winning at any cost. He will be asleep for the first 30 seconds of the fight, although he will be awoken by damage from a hostile attack.

Flynn is as he appears by the end of Shin Megami Tensei IV, equipped with only the Plasma Sword, Plasma Gun, Almighty Rounds, White King armor set, and Hero Earrings. The only skills he has are all -dyne level elemental spells, Salvation, Doping, Luster Candy and Great Logos. The only apps he has are MP Recovery 2 and Auto-Pinpoint, and he cannot summon. He has a 50% boost to all parameters, stacking with the Console Wars buff.
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That refers to combat abilities

Example: "This guy has healing spells, can see in the dark, and turn into a ghost". That kinda stuff. Not meta abilities.
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@Tirofog
@DeathChicken

The floor is yours. If you cannot defeat your enemy with the weapon you do have, then imagine one with which you could. Go!


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Sora is as he appears in Kingdom Hearts 2 FM+ with his best non-broken equipment, and is able to use his Valor, Wisdom, Limit, and Master forms, though they aren't infinite, use the same gauge (starting with and limited to 5), and won't eat up an ally. He doesn't have Magnet, summons, limits (except in Limit form), any reaction commands, or invincibility.

Dracula appears as he does in Chapter 6 of Harmony of Despair, Hard Mode. He has access to all of his attacks, though his seduction attack can't brainwash females, and can freely transform between all three of his forms. Additionally, he has all of his attacks from Order of Ecclesia, except for that game's version of Demonic Megiddo.

Dante is as he appears in Devil May Cry 4, though he does not have his canon regen. He may access Devil Trigger for up to 10 seconds every 5 minutes. He also has all of his weapons from Devil May Cry 3. He does not have access to Kalina Ann, Yamato, or any styles only seen in Devil May Cry 3.

Shao Kahn is as he appears in the Mortal Kombat series, with all of his moves, although he may only use fatalities if an opponent has been sufficiently weakened.

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Archer is as seen in Fate/Stay Night's Unlimited Blade Works route. He may not turn incorporeal and may be affected by conventional weapons despite his status as a servant. He has full use of his Projection capabilities, and full access to the power of Unlimited Blade Works.

Cloud Strife is as seen in Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children, with access to the First Tsurugi, his motorcycle Fenrir, and any abilities/skills granted by that equipment. He additionally has access to all magic (green) FF7 materia and his wing from Kingdom Hearts.

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Banjo & Kazooie, Juliet Starling, Geese Howard, Neclord, Alice Liddell, Sora, Dracula, Shao Kahn, Dante and Lightning have challenged Archer and Cloud to a fight! Location of the fight: Unlimited Blade Works - A blasted wasteland where countless famous swords lie without their owners, extending into the horizon in an endless field beneath a steel sky. Defenders will start atop the rocky hill overlooking the field, whilst attackers will start 100 meters away. Which side will win?

Guidelines

- The fight will occur in real-time (like an FMV sequence). Gameplay mechanics are less important than how the characters would function in a real-time environment.
- The members of Archer's team are ideal teammates capable of a pre-selected plan of battle. Members of the Spiritual Hitsquad will place their own survival above any attempts at cooperation, as well as disregarding any pre-battle plan. They will not, however attack each other.
- "Broken" refers to a lot of things, including insta-death, auto-effects, a variety of status effects (e.g., Imp, Silence, Stop, *not* Poison), and revival. Unless stated otherwise, nobody has them, though do use your own discretion.
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Lightning is as she appears in the endgame of Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII, with a schemata set-up featuring a balance of her strongest physical, magical and debuffing skills and equipment, and with limited use of Curaga.

Banjo and Kazooie are as they appear in Banjo-Tooie, with all their moves and upgrades. They are free to split up whenever they like.

Juliet Starling is as she appears in Lollipop Chainsaw, with all her abilities and upgrades, including those utilising Nick, with the exception of the Chainsaw Blaster. She also cannot activate Star Soul Power. She may activate Star Soul Power for one minute and thirty seconds at any point during the fight, doubling all of her parameters.

Geese Howard is as he appears in the Fatal Fury and King of Fighters series, with all of his moves available.

Neclord is as seen in Suikoden II, with all of his attacks shown in Suikoden I and Suikoden II. He retains his extreme resistance to damage from non-holy based magic and weapons from the Moon Rune, as well as any attacks seen in the gameplay granted by the rune. However, he will lose these resistances if struck by the Star Dragon Sword and cannot otherwise use the rune for curses or anything else.

Alice Liddell is as she appears in Alice: Madness Returns wearing the Checkmate dress and equipped with the Vorpal Cleaver, Octo-grinder, Knightmare, Catnip Cannon, Umbrella and Clockwork Bomb, all fully upgraded. She also has the Ice Wand, Jabberwock's Eye Staff and Blunderbuss from American McGee's Alice, with her will regenerating over time. When near death she will enter Hysteria mode for 20 seconds, but only once.
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Right, but we're going by Marisa 'as seen across the Touhou series', and I don't think we've ever seen her fight outside the spellcard system. So what she shows within its boundaries is what we use for Mercs.
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Wanglicious posted...

the issue with taking her spell cards as flavor is that a lot of her opponents don't have it as flavor. that's what they can seriously do and actually do it.

Which ones? Cause off the top of my head, like...something like Hell's Tokamak isn't emitting literal full power radiation or Marisa would get instantly torched, for example.


trdl23 posted...

Well, we say that, but we never experience a Touhou fight that avoids spellcard rules (aside from that weird Lunarian invasion thing that was super hard to follow.)

It's super obvious that she's no Reimu or Yukari, but there is little indication that spellcard rules are what let her play at most other Touhou levels -- for all we know, they could be nerfing her as well.

No, but we have tons of lore about how the Spellcard system was drafted because fights ended up destroying everything otherwise. That's exactly why it's in place. It's pretty much a binding set of rules everyone plays by that nerfs them all to be (mostly) equal so that disputes can be settled more peacefully.
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Just pointing out that in the one fight Dante absolutely, 100%, positively takes seriously in DMC1 (Mundus) he...is in permanent DT for the whole fight. Granted that he doesn't have the Sparda DT here, but it's worth pointing out.
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Pachinko's writing isn't even that silly IIRC, just kind of a total unknown because finding any solid vids of it is borderline impossible. Dante's still Dante there, as opposed to becoming some boring dude like in DMC2.
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When I said he DTs to tank it with regen, I mean that the artifact pushes Dante's regen to its limits - such that even though DT regeneration and resistance can slow it down, it can't fully stop it from killing him. Which yeah, wasn't too clear, but the point is there's reason to believe he can DT pretty much freely and just chooses not to because Dante rarely takes things seriously unless he really is pissed off or forced to.
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Thing is that all of those things are nerfed by spellcard rules, which is what allows Marisa to compete. Last I checked, with the sole exception of Fantasy Heaven, all the superpowers end up being basically flavoring on the Danmaku, as opposed to something that actually affects the matches. At spellcard dueling Marisa is an absolute ace (Rated 1.5 to Reimu's number 1 spot pretty much, considering she actually occasionally defeats her even), but outside of that she isn't so amazing.
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Banjo & Kazooie come to the Webspinner's aid!
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Wanglicious posted...

i'm sure there's others who don't know about her too. hell, this setup for her is something that people who've played gotta pause for a sec because it ain't what we get in-game. the immune to friendly fire clause is something you're partially lucky there since Marisa could otherwise beam spam for friendly fire but i guess that's what Knux and the Arwing are... well no, the Arwing's screwed. XCOM guy is also pretty useless here, which is also fortunate as he'd otherwise be powering her up with that particle cannon of his.

though as good as Suguri is, that writeup doesn't seem like it's nerfing Marisa at all. which is weird. whose idea was it to have an unnerfed touhou.

*Raises hand*

Marisa is really good but she's frail and purely made of offensive firepower and dodging skills (unless you give her doujin games which she didn't get here). Plus I knew that some people have low respect for Touhou so that was factored in as well. The lack of utility, durability, and versatility makes her reasonable. Marisa vs Fox or Elma would be a fun match I feel. Suguri is a much bigger carry for her team because she has feats that aren't 'won under spellcard rules', which sort of mostly equalize all fighters in the Touhou universe, last I checked.
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Mogor the Ogre: Every single-target ability used after this now has a 50% chance of failure.

Use/Hold?
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Which means he's popping it to deal with one of his weakest opponents. He can't DT forever so any moment he spends flying to avoid bullets is another one where the 6vs1 is that much harder.

He pretty much can. There's an entire level of DMC3 you spend in DT because Dante is carrying an artifact specifically meant to kill him, so he uses it to regentank through the constant drain.
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Which considering the range it'll be at would mean he's likely out of range of jumping straight back to the tower. This puts him at the mercy of KOS-MOS, Wrex and Bass to bullet spam him in the air, where his maneuverability is weakest.

Devil trigger Dante can fly. I don't mean airdash, I mean straight up fly. He shows that off in the DMC pachinko, I can provide videos if needed.
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They could, but at that point that clumps them up, which means they're a big ol' target for Suguri and Marisa to laser up. That kind of sheer firepower is a bit outside the W100's usual paygrade without their mecha, which they don't have here - it'd be a great way to die. They're probably more effective playing tag with Team Laser Hype (TM) than trying to unite up against it.
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Oh huh, and I just realized I never posted anything from Suguri's boss showings.



That's her bossfight. See the ring that limits movement, BTW? She creates that herself, and it's not there for any other boss, so it's safe to assume she can lock people into a relative cagematch with her if the need arises. Beyond that, I feel the fight speaks for itself.
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Alany posted...

KanzarisKelshen posted...

Yamato cuts building-sized things from multiple city blocks away >_>

I'm not saying it isn't, I even mentioned that with the big iajutsu slash he used against the big gate in the series more than easily could destroy the Hind, my issue was that from what we've seen that takes build up. He won't get that build up when the entire upper half of the tower is getting destroyed.

By whom? Temen-Ni-Gru is the gateway to the demon realm. Even Sparda at his full power couldn't destroy it, only seal it, and that's a power level not even unnerfed Dante is allowed to have because he would absolutely solo these guys in a flash. Bits and pieces may fall down, maybe, but not the whole structure. It takes more power than any of these guys have to make that happen.
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Team Raziel.

Same as Lopen, I don't buy knowing 'mercs' abilities. And given that, I think invisible Raziel getting the gank is a real threat, and if he does it's over - he cleans up afterwards, given one of the things he can do is, for instance, a stunning spell that locks everyone in the vicinity down for several seconds. If Yuffie was with her team I think this match is more debatable, but splitting up here hurts.
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GANON1025 posted...

Do these enemies have an answer to Wonder Black's massive slow debuff?

Enormous engagement range advantage, for one. The Wonderful Ones are likely to get popped before they can get into range - as mentioned, one of Marisa's blasts was fired from the moon and passed close enough to Earth to be seen clearly, Suguri blows up the colony from thousands of meters away, and the Vic Viper is a space fighter. All the broom-riders are gonna have to deal with an incredible laser battery to get close enough to execute anything.

Drakeryn posted...

it's not "frames" she's invincible during the entire card (at least I think)

Would argue probably no because the card makes her invincible for the purposes of making it interesting, I think - it's not like Reimu's Fantasy Heaven where she canonically goes invulnerable.
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Also, worth emphasizing: Dante has timehax here. He can use Quicksilver Style or the Bangle of Time just fine to slow things around him to a crawl. He has a massive speed advantage on everyone once he starts taking things seriously.
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Alany posted...

Wanglicious posted...

honestly i'd assume yamato just splits it in two.

Yamato certainly does. But using melee would leave him more open to someone like KOS-MOS as if he does the big iajutsu slash he'll most certainly get tagged by the immense firepower of the Hind D. He'd have to jump over and cut it to bits, which leaves him open as he can't maneuver fully in the air.

Yamato cuts building-sized things from multiple city blocks away >_>

Effective range is not an issue for it.
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this is the best possible Knuckles

is he invincible during Blazing Star Style Tag?

Only as much as you think Marisa might be in an FMV environment. Iframes are a pure gameplay mechanic so if that's the only reason to think so, no.
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The enemy team is really, really not prepared to handle this level of laser spam. Let's go over why quickly:

-One minute buffs are useless. Ascension City is massive, and most of a full city separates the teams here. There is simply not enough speed to get to the records building in a single minute - the enemy team would have to be going at Mach Tons to make it there and they aren't. They're only as fast as their slowest man.
-The Vic Viper has access to all its Options. In english, this means it's not one ship, it's multiple ships all loaded for bear with powerful laser beams and going at insane speeds, protected by defensive energy barriers. They have great anti-ground (and anti-dudes-below-them) weapons as a bonus that automatically fire while they shoot at whatever's ahead of them, too.
-Marisa's got enormous lasers (like, many times her size) that are going to kill dozens of Wonderful Ones in instants. Said lasers are long-lasting enough and powerful enough for them to be visible on Earth when fired from the moon, and her team doesn't have to worry about friendly fire so she can spam them freely. And knowing they're massively outnumbered, she won't screw around either.
-Nobody can handle Suguri, in the slightest.

The last two points deserve elaboration, particularly the second one. Let's get Marisa out of the way first. She's got all sorts of multidirectional spells to deal with these jokers:

https://youtu.be/eJxaXWLlWx8?t=88

(Included: Multiple Master Sparks at once, AKA megalasers, bullets abso-freakin'-lutely everywhere, perimeter defenses, the works.)

Now that that's done, let's talk Suguri. Suguri is an altered girl, turned into a human weapon by her father ten thousand years ago. She's the earth's defender, and during the events of her game, deals with a full-fledged alien invasion that's come seeking for a new home. She faces mecha, weapon platforms, other altered bioweapons and more, and her power is far beyond anything the opposing team has ever seen. Notably, after she's kicked the ass of the invasion leader, a twisted man called Shifu, and defeated the living god of the invading mothership, Shifu decides that if he can't have earth all to himself, no one will - so he prepares to drop an entire colony ship housing millions of lives to earth, causing global destruction. This is what happens:

https://youtu.be/71fupQ25s2w?t=377

So yes, Suguri is powerful enough to blow up a ship where just one block could house millions, with a single laser strike - and acting together, she and Hime (the blonde girl in the vid) cut that block away so precisely and quickly that Shifu has no time to react. That clearly establishes her power pedigree, but what about her dodgehax and durability, which she'll need plenty of? In the case of the latter, Suguri isn't a one-hit wonder: the Suguri series is unique because it uses a lifebar, instead of a lives system - if you die, you gotta start from the beginning, and more than that, energy attacks are complete nonstarters against her, because she charges her Hyper Moves by dashing through energy blasts and absorbing their energy. And as for what she deals with by dodging...



It's probably not possible to parse what's even going on with these attacks, which is rather the point - they are overwhelmingly fast, brutal, screen-covering...and Suguri handled this just fine. So much so that this particular boss is her best friend, and the warm-up to fighting her in Sora, the prequel/sequel to it. And as the final boss, Suguri is so strong, your character doesn't even beat her, just achieves a momentary tie and is talked into a surrender. She's an unbelievable threat who will go under the radar with Marisa and the Vic Viper causing mayhem, and nobody will be able to stop her until it's too late.
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@Eddv

The floor is yours. Here we go!


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Fox McCloud is as he appears in the Star Fox series, piloting the fully upgraded Arwing in all-range mode as seen in Star Fox 64 from the nearest convenient location to his team. He has no bombs. He may leave the cockpit but will only have his Blaster from Star Fox: Assault if he does so.

The Wonderful 100 are as they appear in their on-foot Unlimited Form in The Wonderful 101, with Red, Blue, Green, Pink, Yellow, White, Black, Vorkken, Chewgi, Immorta, and 90 civilians that are equipped with Tiny Wonder Masks. They have all their techniques (except Hero Block), moves, upgrades, and custom blocks (except Ukemi). They don't have any additional Tiny Wonder Masks. They each have all of the knowledge and experience that comes from starring in Touhou: Great Fairy Wars, the Blazing Star Tag Style spell, and a copy of Marisa's broom.


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Marisa Kirisame is as she appears across the Touhou series, including official supplemental materials, with access to all of her attacks and abilities seen therein. All of Marisa's teammates (including herself) will be immune to friendly fire, no matter what. This benefit does not extend to the enemy team.

Suguri is as seen across the Suguri series, with access to all of her attacks and abilities, including her various Acceleration of Suguri movesets and her boss fight showings from Sora. She is equipped with every weapon in her arsenal, and may switch between them freely. Whenever Suguri participates in a match, the Sora version of Rendezvous will play loudly over the terrain.

The Vic Viper is it appears in Gradius III, equipped with the fully maxed out Type 1 set, as well as a Forcefield. It may switch between Laser and Double at will, but not use both at the same time. It does not have access to the Mega Crush.

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The Wonderful 100, Knuckles, Fox McCloud, Elma, Sorey, Dezel and Char Aznable have challenged Marisa Kirisame, Suguri and the Vic Viper to a fight! Location of the fight: Ascension City - A city ruined by a WMD attack, now barely holding on and empty, as seen in Bionic Commando 2009. Attackers will start on one of the office buildings in the first area, while defenders will start just outside the Central Records building.. Which side will win?

Guidelines

- The fight will occur in real-time (like an FMV sequence). Gameplay mechanics are less important than how the characters would function in a real-time environment.
- The members of each team are ideal teammates capable of a pre-selected plan of battle.
- "Broken" refers to a lot of things, including insta-death, auto-effects, a variety of status effects (e.g., Imp, Silence, Stop, *not* Poison), and revival. Unless stated otherwise, nobody has them, though do use your own discretion.
- There may be SPOILERS from all of the games the characters are from.

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Knuckles is as he appears in the Sonic games, an echidna who can glide along with his trademark strength, punching, and digging abilities. He has all of the knowledge and experience that comes from starring in Touhou: Great Fairy Wars, the Blazing Star Tag Style spell, and a copy of Marisa's broom, as well as a Tiny Wonder Mask courtesy of the Wonderful 100.

Char Aznable is as seen in XCOM: Enemy Within as a Colonel of class MEC and carrying endgame equipment as well as the Particle Cannon and Paladin suit. He also has the Secondary Heart gene mod. His weapons will self destruct upon leaving his possession.

Sorey is as he appears in Tales of Zestiria, with all orbs and talismans (though they buff only himself and his seraphim) and an endgame skill build. He enters the battle with 5 Blast Gauges and may armatize freely with his seraphim and The Wonderful 100 during the course of the battle, but armatization cannot be used to revive anyone. He does not have access to Siegfried.

Dezel is accompanying Sorey into battle. He is as he appears in Tales of Zestiria, with an endgame skill build. He will enter battle with 5 Blast Gauges.

Elma is as she is seen in Xenoblade Chronicles X in her mimeosome, a max level Full Metal Jaguar with all of her arts and skills fully upgraded. She has a Verus Cain skell, outfitted with its default Machine Gun, B-Claw, G Buster, SHD-Ray, Lasergun, and Grenade, along with a Beamsaber, Cracker-FL, Minigun, and Shield. She, Knuckles and the Wonderful 100 will all be under the effect of Blink for the first minute of battle.
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Lopen posted...

Will Dante really fight the helicopter by Pandora spam

I think he more likely bounds off the side of the Temen-Ni-Gru to style into the chopper, using Nevan while making some manner of crack about a chopper, then vaults off of it, slides down to engage the enemy team.

UNFORTUNATELY for Dante this is a supernatural double parameters helicopter that can already take like 20 rockets with normal parameters for some reason, so he can't just wreck it effortlessly. It probably takes some damage and Dante goes spilling downward, needing to kickflip off the side of the tower to regain his balance, falling right into the thick of the enemy team

OR he catches eye of that poseur down there, and heads straight in to teach that foul mouthed pup a lesson in style and how to rep that trenchcoat.

Realistically I think Dante just shoots Liquid to death with Ebony and Ivory cause that's the most 'Dante' thing to do, and surfs on Liquid's missiles, while Kirby, Bass and Donte climb up. At some point the Hind bites it, those three arrive and an actual fight breaks out. It's probably at that point that Dante gets serious, because Donte is legit enough to actually be worth fighting earnestly instead of completely clowning around - and once those three are dead, the others are not gonna last very long against him.
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Seriously, it cannot be understated just how much this team is gonna split up - you have KOS-MOS, Yu and Wrex landlocked and stuck wayyyyy out of effective range, except maybe Kossy, you have Liquid in the air, Donte, Bass and Kirby climbing up in their own particular ways...once you factor personalities in, it's pretty much not happening that the full team fights Dante at any point in time. It's gonna be something like a 1v2 or 1v3 at most at any given moment and he can easily clutch that.
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Like for reference, this is what he's like against a boss that doesn't call his mother a whore:

https://youtu.be/F9atpt93yLU?t=57

He gives him the finger but otherwise it's puns all the way down - 'Put a spin on this', 'I'm taking you off the air', and for a finisher, 'Breaking news Bob! YOU'RE FIRED!'. Donte's more likely to just try scaling Temen-Ni-Gru than trying to get into an insult match with Dante. If anything what they might exchange is terrible one-liners.
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Lopen posted...

I don't think Dante has much time or even inclination to bust out Pandora from the beginning. If he ignores Dante, but you can call him Donte the demon killer, he's going to get grappled.

But he's gonna get grappled by his cutting wit first. One FUCK YOU! is all it's going to take for Dante to run down the tower and engage in melee.

Donte isn't 'FUCK YOU' central though. He's actually kinda gruff but chill otherwise. Plus, Temen-Ni-Gru is MASSIVE. Odds are that Donte is not gonna shout out at someone who's like, 500 yards up in the air or the like for no reason. Liquid's more likely to be the first person to get Dante's attention, and consequently get wrecked. The terrain advantage isn't to be discounted here considering just how silly Dante's arsenal is.
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Kalina Ann's rockets don't really home so it's not as good for this

Also this is a double parameters Hind D!

On the other hand, Pandora's rockets certainly do - and the Hind is gonna get wiped by like a couple seconds of heavy fire from it.
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Dante SOLOS. It's Mercenaries' golden boy at his full power, full regen, and nothing to hold him back!

This hasn't been very relevant before, but in his own series, Dante is a capital T TANK. This is him at the start of his demon hunting career:

https://youtu.be/3UeC6a-GveU?t=455

But he's not as seen at the start of DMC3 here, oh no. He's Peak Dante. This means he has Lady's Kalina Ann, Vergil's Yamato, Doppelganger Style, Pandora, Quicksilver Style, the Bangle of Time, the whooooooole nine yards, with pretty much no meaningful restrictions. Brief reminder of the silliness of Dante, in case you forgot:



Yeeeeeeaaah, this is pretty grim for the enemy team, isn't it? Especially because Dante has the almighty high ground advantage. It'll take a whiiile for the enemy team to reach him - or what is more likely, ranged attackers will aggro him and get destroyed by him in advance. Note the ranged arsenal displayed circa 1:30 onwards in the second vid. Who the hell can tango with that on a man who just refuses to die? No one? Yeah, thought so.

And that's all I really have to say here. I don't want to bug you with unnecessary exposition. It's time for this party to get crazy! Let's ROCK, baby!
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@Lopen

The floor is yours.
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Bass.EXE is as he appears in the Megaman Battle Network series, with access to all the moves and properties of his Omega forms (including Bass Omega GS), though if any of his barriers/auras is destroyed, he loses access to all of them for the rest of the fight. He can operate here same as he does on the Net. He may cast the spell Luster Candy, as it appears in Shin Megami Tensei IV. Thanks to the Triforce of Courage, his parameters have been doubled. He may freely switch to his persona Norn, as it appears in Persona 4, who only has their natural non-passive skills and elemental affinities.

Kirby is as seen in the Kirby Super Star and Smash series. He has full use of his Smash Brothers Moveset along with the moves from his Parasol, Ninja and Wheel forms. (He has also inhaled KOS-MOS and Tira, gaining a set of moves fitting each). He cannot inhale enemy fighters nor create helpers from his abilities during the match, but can inhale anything else and will not lose access to his forms due to taking damage. He may freely switch to his persona Thor, as it appears in Persona 4, who only has their natural non-passive skills and elemental affinities. Null Physical is not available.

Liquid Snake is as seen during the Hind D boss fight in Metal Gear Solid. He will pilot the helicopter in from the nearest convenient location on his team's side. He may not leave the Hind and if it goes down, it can be assumed Liquid has gone down with it. Thanks to the Triforce of Courage, the Hind D's parameters have been doubled.

Yu Narukami (MC) is as he appears in Persona 4. He has the persona Izanagi available, with all default skills from P4 learned in addition to all the moves from Persona 4 Arena, with the exception of his mortal blow or gameplay mechanics (invincibility frames, etc). He also can freely switch to his persona Isis, who only has their natural non-passive skills and elemental affinities.

~VS~

Dante Sparda is as he appears across the Devil May Cry series, with full access to all of his weapons, styles and abilities, including his canon regen and Devil Trigger, except for special DTs (such as Majin Devil Trigger, Sparda DT, etc.). Quicksilver and Doppelganger (as well as any other duplication/timehax abilities) will function as they do in the gameplay.

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It's the one you've been waiting for, ladies and gentlemen! The one and only, the true Son of Sparda! FIGHT!
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KOS-MOS, Wrex, Donte, Bass.EXE, Liquid Snake, Yu Narukami and Kirby have challenged Dante Sparda to a fight! Location of the fight: Temen-Ni-Gru - The enormous demonic tower connecting Earth to the demon dimension. Access to the full tower is allowed, including the outside. Attackers will begin at the bottom, with Dante starting at the top, looking down on them. . Which side will win?

Guidelines

- The fight will occur in real-time (like an FMV sequence). Gameplay mechanics are less important than how the characters would function in a real-time environment.
- The members of each team are ideal teammates capable of a pre-selected plan of battle.
- "Broken" refers to a lot of things, including insta-death, auto-effects, a variety of status effects (e.g., Imp, Silence, Stop, *not* Poison), and revival. Unless stated otherwise, nobody has them, though do use your own discretion.
- There may be SPOILERS from all of the games the characters are from.

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KOS-MOS is as she appears in Xenosaga Episode 1. She has access to her techs as well as Shion's transferable ones. She has all her weapons aside from F-SCYTHE, and is equipped with D Unit V6, White Ring, and Brave Soul, and has the skills AGI+1, Damage -10%, AP +1, and W Special. She may not access her Blue Eyes form or use Revert, S-Chain or Gate.

Urdnot Wrex is as he appears in the Mass Effect series, with all of his available talents from Mass Effect 1 at maximum level. He comes to battle equipped with the M-300 Claymore Shotgun (with Shredder Mod V), the Graal Spike Thrower Shotgun (with Omni Blade V), and the Striker Assault Rifle (with Magazine Upgrade V), all as they appear in Mass Effect 3.

Dante, but you can call him Donte the demon killer, is as he appears in DmC, with access to all his demon arms, angel arms, and ranged weapons, fully upgraded. His Devil Trigger may be used only if he has a full gauge, which starts empty, but will not fling enemies into the air helplessly for no reason and only offers limited benefits to stats and regeneration as in the gameplay.
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Wanglicious posted...

...y'know, teleporting ninja with nova beam is pretty nice.

Can Neptune teleport? Cause if not then no teleports here. Yuffie has Neptune's moves, not her own.
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Scare

by the way Im tied up for at least another hour, I will try to give a proper argument after
that

For anyone who's waiting on an argument from Scare before voting.
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Corrik posted...

Additionally, he has studied Chrom and has knowledge of his fighting style, abilities, equipment, and weaknesses, with plenty of oils applied to his weapons that would make them extra effective against his target. He rides Roach into battle.


I buy it.

You can buy it - but I just felt compelled to clarify that is NOT a 'this merc knows this other merc used abilities outside battle to give themselves an edge' granter by default. That would maybe be done by knowing the enemy team's battleplan, IMO. It depends on how much leeway you want to give Geralt's research.
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Further admin note: Yuffie is effectively Neptune from Hyperdimension Neptunia, per that writeup. It's not FF7 Yuffie. Mercs!
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Admin note: Geralt's research doesn't necessarily grant him knowledge of 'mercs' abilities, as opposed to combat abilities a merc can display. That's interp. I personally do not buy that and think it's metagaming, your mileage may vary.
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Jeezy/JC's argument:

Geralt has basically one job to do here and then anything else he adds to the battle is gravy. He has used his pre-battle on Chrom giving him full knowledge of Chrom's schtick including his abilities. So Geralt will be aware of Support Unit and that it can offer a 50% parameter boost but that it also only lasts as long as Chrom is alive. Geralt will be starting next to Sephiroth so he can pass that information on to Sephiroth to use as he likes along with the other pertinent info on Chrom (he's a chump, his wife is ugly, etc.)

So Sephiroth will know how to bust the Raziel boost but he may not even need to because Nep-Yuffie-Samus has brought a cool toy with her, the Gunship from Metroid Prime 3. A bombing run from the Gunship will probably blow Chrom to smithereens. Even if Chrom tries to be cowardly and hide, there's no real interior area for him to hide away in where he starts and he'll need to get to the keep where Seph and Geralt are. Unfortunately Nep-Yuffie-Samus will in the way in her neutral position, and given that she has pre-battle planned with Geralt, she knows which way the enemy will be coming from. She also has boosted durability from her Neptune form and a powerful Nova Beam from Samus to blast fools with.

With the Gunship flying around and Seph knowing what he looks like, Chrom won't be long for this world. With him goes the parameter boost for Raziel and from there Nep-Yuffie-Samus and Sephiroth can easily duo Raziel for both lives. Sephiroth still has his slow debuff to keep Raziel in line plus he has Curaga to heal him and NYS up. Raziel can glide around but with his wings in tatters he can't protect Chrom from either the Gunship or a flying teleporting Sephiroth. (Also Geralt may be able to get some crossbow bolts or bombs in on Raziel, while staying a respectful distance away and protected by Quen.)
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@ScareChan
@JeezyMiyagi
@Chaeix

The floor is yours.
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Raziel and Chrom have challenged Geralt, Yuffie and Sephiroth to a fight! Location of the fight: Kaer Morhen - The old keep of the Wolf School, as seen in The Witcher 3. Access to the rest of the Witcher world outside of the keep is not allowed. Attackers will start by the entryway from the Witcher's Trail entryway, while defenders will start on the top floor of the highest tower. Which side will win?

Guidelines

- The fight will occur in real-time (like an FMV sequence). Gameplay mechanics are less important than how the characters would function in a real-time environment.
- The members of each team are ideal teammates capable of a pre-selected plan of battle.
- "Broken" refers to a lot of things, including insta-death, auto-effects, a variety of status effects (e.g., Imp, Silence, Stop, *not* Poison), and revival. Unless stated otherwise, nobody has them, though do use your own discretion.
- There may be SPOILERS from all of the games the characters are from.

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- Bold your votes (using bold HTML tags).
- You do not need to require justification for your vote, though the admins reserve the right to disqualify votes in the advent of obvious alt voting and other similar scenarios.
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- If you want to switch your votes simply bold the change; there's no need to delete your post, though you may if you wish.
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Raziel is as he appears in Legacy of Kain: Defiance, with all of his upgrades, equipment, and abilities from that game, with the exception of Phase Shifting and Possession. Once per match if he dies, he will immediately reanimate to full health at his starting location. He will have a 50% bonus to all parameters until Chrom is eliminated in battle.

Chrom is as seen in Fire Emblem Awakening, as a level 20 Great Lord. He is equipped with the Exalted Falchion, Noble Rapier, Blessed Lance, and Gradivus and has the skills Dual Strike+, Dual Guard+, Aether, Aegis, and Rightful King.

~VS~

Geralt is as he appears in The Witcher 3, with fully upgraded Feline Witcher gear and equipment along with maxed out Combat, Alchemy, and Signs skill trees (except for Axii). Additionally, he has studied Chrom and has knowledge of his fighting style, abilities, equipment, and weaknesses, with plenty of oils applied to his weapons that would make them extra effective against his target. He rides Roach into battle.

Yuffie Kisaragi is as she appears in Hyperdimension Neptunia Re;Birth1, at max level and with her best non-broken skills and equipment. She may activate her HDD form at any time, and whilst she cannot use Linked attacks, EX Finishers and EXE Drive skills can be used once the EXE Drive Gauge has been built up. She has a loadout of Samus Aran's equipment from Metroid Prime 3, giving her Nova Beam, Corruption Mode, Upgraded Grapple, X-Ray Visor, and Command Visor w/Gunship. She will start hidden in a position neutral to both teams.

Sephiroth is as seen in Final Fantasy 7, Crisis Core, Dissidia, Advent Children Complete, and Kingdom Hearts 1&2, with access to all spells, materia, and abilities displayed within. This includes spells/abilities from Safer/Bizzaro Sephiroth, though he may not transform into either of those forms. He may not cast Heartless Angel, FFVII's Supernova, Pale Horse, Stop, or Break.

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In these ruins, doom will befall one of these teams. Who will rise and who will fall in this battle? FIGHT!
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Anytime tonight is aight, there isn't much of a rush. Just want to get two matches done today so I can do the other two tomorrow.
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Geralt, Sephiroth and Yuffie vs. Chrom and Raziel.

Terrain: Kaer Morhen (I RULE THIS WORLD!).

@JeezyMiyagi is tonight OK for your match going up? Would rather split the matches more or less evenly if possible.
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