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Topic'These statues have been around for 100 years, why do people hate them now?'
hockeybub89
08/19/17 8:56:48 PM
#109
Deadpool_18 posted...
Most of those statues were cheaply made molds that were erected during segregation to "remind" black people of "their place". They have shit all to do with history.

I feel like this is lost on people.

Not going to stop them from going "But the White House was built by slaves" though.
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TopicBoston police bracing for turmoil at another right-wing rally today
hockeybub89
08/19/17 8:18:16 PM
#258
Capn Circus posted...
It's such a problem and causes so many deaths and injuries yet you can't even name a few like I did. And those were just "radical right wing" inspired attacks or "White Supremacist" vs Radical Islam. I didn't even name any violent leftists or the 5 officers killed in Dallas last year.

I am sorry statistics are inconvenient to you. You're a great example of how the average American is just woefully ignorant about terrorism. I don't blame you. No one talks about it. We're so busy focusing on people from far away that we don't even give a second look at our neighbor's terror plot. I mean, hell, domestic terrorism isn't even an actual crime you can be convicted of in America and only foreign groups are considered legitimate terror groups by the government.
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TopicBoston police bracing for turmoil at another right-wing rally today
hockeybub89
08/19/17 8:12:21 PM
#252
HashBrownAgain posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
HashBrownAgain posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Why won't Trump say radical right-wing terrorism?

The same reason the shitstain before couldn't say radical islam.

Is this supposed to be a Trump defense? Because it is a very shitty one.

No, it is calling out Obama for being a fucking pussy.

Obama isn't in the White House anymore. I tend to live in the present.
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TopicBoston police bracing for turmoil at another right-wing rally today
hockeybub89
08/19/17 8:05:45 PM
#247
HashBrownAgain posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Why won't Trump say radical right-wing terrorism?

The same reason the shitstain before couldn't say radical islam.

Is this supposed to be a Trump defense? Because it is a very shitty one.
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TopicBoston police bracing for turmoil at another right-wing rally today
hockeybub89
08/19/17 8:04:08 PM
#246
Capn Circus posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
-Gavirulax- posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Why won't Trump say radical right-wing terrorism?


What Trump should or could say is very different from what he would.

I've said for years that right-wing terrorism will eventually pick up in response to Islamic terrorism because that is literally how ISIS want to start their ridiculous revolution. There is a reason why Mosques and the like have had increased attacks by right-wing radicals. I just hope they don't become nearly as frequent as their Islamic counterparts.

It's not a growing threat. It's the biggest threat. Extreme right-wing non-Islamic terrrorism is much more frequent than Islamic terrorism in America. So why does America choose to ignore the biggest terrorist threat in the country? How can we even say with a straight face that we want to end terrorism when we want to ignore a huge part of it? I for one think we should fight all terrorism, not just that propagated by dark people of a foreign religion.


Go ahead an name some recent "Extreme right wing" terrorist attacks a long with the fatalities and injuries. I'll start with the radical Islamic terrorism:

2013 - Boston Marathon Bombing - 3 deaths - 183 injuries
2015 - Draw Muhammad exhibit shooting - 2 deaths - 1 injuries
2015 - Chattanooga shootings - 7 deaths - 2 injuries
2015 - San Bernardino - 14 deaths - 22 injuries
2016 - Orlando Nightclub - 49 deaths - 53 injuries

I'll wait @hockeybub89

So we can ignore terrorist attacks if they have smaller body counts? Are you a sociopath?

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/u-s-sees-300-violent-attacks-inspired-far-right-every-year/
https://www.newamerica.org/in-depth/terrorism-in-america/what-threat-united-states-today/
https://www.adl.org/news/press-releases/adl-report-says-us-deaths-linked-to-domestic-extremists-second-only-to-year-of
http://www.newsweek.com/right-wing-extremism-islamist-terrorism-donald-trump-steve-bannon-628381
https://www.cato.org/blog/terrorism-deaths-ideology-charlottesville-anomaly
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/aug/16/look-data-domestic-terrorism-and-whos-behind-it/
http://www.npr.org/2017/06/16/533255619/fact-check-is-left-wing-violence-rising
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TopicBoston white supremacist rally ended by counter protesters
hockeybub89
08/19/17 7:56:46 PM
#105
Capn Circus posted...
Ammonitida posted...
One thing that really irks me is how many right wingers feel that if you oppose white nationalism or Nazism, you're "anti-white".

Antifa is many things but their message isn't "I hate white people", as Joey Salads claims in this tweet.

https://twitter.com/JoeySalads/status/898398283558641666

You can't have white nationalism in the US. It's silly.


"I'm anti white"
https://youtu.be/ecoYEiClt7k?t=4m01s

Do you really want to go down the "One represents all" path? I don't think you will like it for your causes. In fact, I swear I have seen you take umbrage with this being done to people you support.
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TopicBoston white supremacist rally ended by counter protesters
hockeybub89
08/19/17 7:55:23 PM
#104
TopicBoston white supremacist rally ended by counter protesters
hockeybub89
08/19/17 7:53:27 PM
#102
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
That's what they did. They denied them their platform. You are acting like free speech is now "as long as their mouths aren't taped shut".

How fucking dumb are you. Why do you defend the actions of the fascists assholes? At least I condemned the fucking nazis when they were being pos human beings. Why can't You?

Is it freedom of speech if you're telling people "Nazis are people too and you better not think less of them or counter protest them because then you're the real fascist"? Fuck outta here. Tell me, Mr. Pacifist. Do you respect every person equally and never voice disagreement around people? You just sit around while people talk at you? No discussions? No arguments? Never a bad word?

No arguments were made. The counterprotesters didn't even give them a chance to talk. They just started screaming Nazis and fuck Trump and started throwing bottles and punching people and trying to fight cops. Literally none of what you just asked. You are all ignoring what you want to fit your agenda and it's sad.

All violence is bad, but not equal. Extreme right-wingers are organzied groups that practice inherently violent, if not genocidal ideologies. They are prone to worse violence as they commit the most terrorism in the country. Violent leftists are bad, but they aren't organized. They are loose collections of assholes interpreting a message in a violent way. Their bad will always pale in comparison. There is no good way to interpret white supremacy. It is disingenuous to suddenly act as if all actions are equal.

As for freedom of speech, no you have no obligation for your views to be valued, especially not when you are promoting a hateful, murderous message that is incompatible with freedom. Before you say it, if you find left-wingers calling for the death of someone they don't like, shut those assholes down too. You have freedom of speech too and you are not forced to allow hate a platform and to not think less of hateful people. We would need fascism to have what you want us to have.
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TopicBoston white supremacist rally ended by counter protesters
hockeybub89
08/19/17 7:39:34 PM
#91
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
That's what they did. They denied them their platform. You are acting like free speech is now "as long as their mouths aren't taped shut".

How fucking dumb are you. Why do you defend the actions of the fascists assholes? At least I condemned the fucking nazis when they were being pos human beings. Why can't You?

Is it freedom of speech if you're telling people "Nazis are people too and you better not think less of them or counter protest them because then you're the real fascist"? Fuck outta here. Tell me, Mr. Pacifist. Do you respect every person equally and never voice disagreement around people? You just sit around while people talk at you? No discussions? No arguments? Never a bad word?
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TopicBoston white supremacist rally ended by counter protesters
hockeybub89
08/19/17 7:35:14 PM
#81
MangaFan462 posted...
EverDownward posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
Cool 40 thousand fascists showed up to prevent 1st amendment rights and fight cops. Our heroes

but we gotta fight the racists and bigots and sexists and haters and evil nazi terrorists that have a different opinion from mine. a show of force is okay when my opinion is the majority


Indeed.

'There are only so genders.'

Libruls 'zomg Nazi!!11'

I'm pretty sure everyone is throwing the Nazi word around this week since people who literally subscribe to Nazi doctrine just held a violent hate rally last week. Take your disingenuous "This is left vs right and the left is all violent douches that think the whole right is Hitler" bullshit out of here.
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TopicBoston white supremacist rally ended by counter protesters
hockeybub89
08/19/17 7:32:37 PM
#77
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
Cool 40 thousand fascists showed up to prevent 1st amendment rights and fight cops. Our heroes

Their first amendment rights are still in tact. Trolling or not why do you post things like this to make yourself look ignorant?

How? The event was shut down before it even started. And how am I trolling when these fucking idiots are out there trying to fight cops?

Fuck off

So you don't know what the first amendment is then....

Oh I guess so. When you stop a group from speaking you aren't denying them their 1st amendment right. Silly me! That rally today that was allowed to happen sure was great. Loved it. I'm glad a fascist group didn't show up and completely stop people from free speech.

Freedom of speech does not mean bitching out and letting hateful piles of shit like in Charlottesville spew their violent, genocidal ideology without contest. That's how you let those kinds of things grow. That's why people were mad at Trump's response. It was ambiguous enough that white supremacists are finding support. We cannot let them feel support. You do not understand what the 1st Amendment is.
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TopicBoston police bracing for turmoil at another right-wing rally today
hockeybub89
08/19/17 7:26:40 PM
#239
-Gavirulax- posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Why won't Trump say radical right-wing terrorism?


What Trump should or could say is very different from what he would.

I've said for years that right-wing terrorism will eventually pick up in response to Islamic terrorism because that is literally how ISIS want to start their ridiculous revolution. There is a reason why Mosques and the like have had increased attacks by right-wing radicals. I just hope they don't become nearly as frequent as their Islamic counterparts.

It's not a growing threat. It's the biggest threat. Extreme right-wing non-Islamic terrrorism is much more frequent than Islamic terrorism in America. So why does America choose to ignore the biggest terrorist threat in the country? How can we even say with a straight face that we want to end terrorism when we want to ignore a huge part of it? I for one think we should fight all terrorism, not just that propagated by dark people of a foreign religion.
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TopicBoston white supremacist rally ended by counter protesters
hockeybub89
08/19/17 7:21:03 PM
#66
-Gavirulax- posted...
The denial is strong with these types.

Antifa aren't hard to make look shitty. They're a bunch of losers seeking a villain to try and make themselves look like the hero. And of course, they're violent fascists in all but name.

We all know it is hard to believe that a YouTuber that makes shitty prank videos pulled a shitty prank. Clearly the real explanation is he was suddenly exposing the truth.
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TopicWelp, Bioware has officially given up on Mass Effect Andromeda
hockeybub89
08/19/17 7:16:52 PM
#34
NibeIungsnarf posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
:(

Fuck EA for not giving Mass Effect any respect. They did the same shit with Mirror's Edge. Why the hell even allow sequels to be made if they are going to be passed off to D teams and poorly promoted? Who exactly are you pleasing?

At this particular point in time I honestly think shutting the whole thing down is more respectful than making sequels to Andromeda and allowing that to be Mass Effect's legacy (until they decide to reboot it in 10 years)

I'm talking about Andromeda itself. I don't think it was as bad as everyone said and I actually enjoyed it, but it's just shameful how that game was made. Made by the worst Bioware had to offer, poor promotion, no E3 presence, pushed out the door in an especially unfinished state. And then they dropped the franchise like a bad habit almost immediately. Why did they even bother in the first place?
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TopicBoston white supremacist rally ended by counter protesters
hockeybub89
08/19/17 7:12:02 PM
#56
El Mexicano Texano posted...
So they were bullied into a corner and pretty much had their right of freedom of speech taken?

Just because you can say anything doesn't mean people need to value it. Why do you hate freedom of speech?
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TopicWelp, Bioware has officially given up on Mass Effect Andromeda
hockeybub89
08/19/17 7:09:02 PM
#27
:(

Fuck EA for not giving Mass Effect any respect. They did the same shit with Mirror's Edge. Why the hell even allow sequels to be made if they are going to be passed off to D teams and poorly promoted? Who exactly are you pleasing?
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TopicBoston white supremacist rally ended by counter protesters
hockeybub89
08/19/17 7:05:16 PM
#53
Capn Circus posted...
Taxer posted...
Counter protesting is an exercise of free speech you fucking loons


Sure, but why are they counter protesting a free speech rally?

I bet you honestly believe fundamental Christians are campaigning for freedom when they say gays should burn in hell and be discriminated against. Or that North Korea is a democratic people's republic.
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TopicBoston white supremacist rally ended by counter protesters
hockeybub89
08/19/17 7:03:23 PM
#51
Why are pro-free speech people made about counterprotesters exercising free speech?
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TopicJason Kessler writes VILE Rant against Heather Heyer by insulting her LOOKS!!
hockeybub89
08/19/17 4:58:31 PM
#2
You know you're a shithead when Nazi poster boy Richard Spencer calls you out.
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TopicBoston police bracing for turmoil at another right-wing rally today
hockeybub89
08/19/17 4:55:39 PM
#207
TopicBoston police bracing for turmoil at another right-wing rally today
hockeybub89
08/19/17 2:33:22 PM
#159
Ruvan22 posted...
thompsontalker7 posted...
CircleOfManias posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Zodd3224 posted...


You seem pretty tolerant... of one side


I'm tolerant of conservatives exercising their right to rally without being harassed by deranged leftists who believe anyone who isn't a leftist is a "Nazi". Correct.


Counterprotesting isn't a violation of free speech. The whole point of freedom of speech is that it applies to everyone. You have the right to be an asshole, but don't get indignant when people exercise their right to call you one.


Counterprotesting is just a catalyst for violence. Charlottesville showed that off the best.


Really? I can think of lots of times counterprotesting helped silence hateful messages.. why are you so intent on painting it "just a catalyst"?

Don't you know white supremacists will just quietly go away if we let them preach their pacifist message in peace?
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TopicBoston police bracing for turmoil at another right-wing rally today
hockeybub89
08/19/17 2:32:11 PM
#157
tremain07 posted...
Antifar posted...
Beautiful

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHmmqV5XkAAxPJI.jpg

Weapons, hiding faces,blocking the road, dear mother of god it's an Anifa trifecta, the only thing we need now is a riot and an unprovoked attack on law enforcement and it's liberal bingo

There's like 2 people there with bandanas and what weapons? And whoever heard of a massive protest being in the road? Madness.
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TopicWhy does America let people get away with badmouthing and disrespecting Trump?
hockeybub89
08/19/17 2:28:34 PM
#12
Topicgod i fucking hate our president and i dont know why the feeling isnt universal.
hockeybub89
08/19/17 2:11:37 PM
#14
--kresnik-- posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
Maybe not universal, but the majority of Americans dislike him, and the vast majority of the world.

Wrong. Slightly more Han half voted for him. They found duplicate, illegal immigrant, and deceased votes amongst hillary's votes.

So, it's accurate to say that most living, legal voters support Trump.

If you ignore that like half the country didn't vote and assume that everyone who votes for a President never wavers in support, then maybe.
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TopicMillennials are killing...
hockeybub89
08/19/17 2:06:35 PM
#9
TopicUse your autocorrect to form a sentence.
hockeybub89
08/19/17 1:47:42 PM
#161
Jayjar100 posted...
The only way to make a better job of doing a better job is to get a better job

Yeah but the other day I was a lazy piece of paper and you wanted to go to work as an underdog
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TopicJohn Goodman
hockeybub89
08/19/17 1:45:45 PM
#11
TopicBoston police bracing for turmoil at another right-wing rally today
hockeybub89
08/19/17 11:22:51 AM
#25
TopicWhat do you actually do for a living?
hockeybub89
08/19/17 11:20:20 AM
#30
TopicWikileaks turned down leaked info on Russian government during 2016 election.
hockeybub89
08/18/17 8:24:22 PM
#42
Vertania posted...
yusiko posted...
remember the time they released the names of underage rape victims to the public?
or the time they outed closeted homosexuals in countries where they could be executed for being gay?


they have always been scum and their fanboys have always defended them for being scum.

ITP: It's WikiLeaks' fault that Muslim countries kill homosexuals

I feel like there are better ways to combat radical Islam that than just outing a bunch of gay people in countries where they will die because of it.

Facts aren't dangerous, but how you use them can be. WikiLeaks is like that guy everyone knows who cites statistics to justify hating people.
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TopicRockstar possibly going to disable solo public sales in GTA Online next update
hockeybub89
08/18/17 8:06:50 PM
#11
Scorsese2002 posted...
Never understood GTA Online.....you can get banned for killing too much.......um, do you know what game you made?

Just because they made GTA doesn't mean they want every lobby to be a grief fest full of shitheads in tanks and hydras blowing up your 2 million dollar car every 5 minutes. There is never going to be a welcome place for trolly jackasses.
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TopicCan someone explain to a Brit the drama surrounding the confederacy statues?
hockeybub89
08/18/17 1:32:30 PM
#30
I don't understand why people keep talking about erasing history. Honorary statues erected after the fact are not integral to remembering the past. There are millions of things (good or bad) we remember without having statues built to honor them all over the place.
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TopicOne MALE and FEMALE are FIRED after one of their FRIENDS saw their NAZI Posts!!
hockeybub89
08/18/17 1:06:02 PM
#13
TopicUse your autocorrect to form a sentence.
hockeybub89
08/17/17 11:06:09 PM
#159
DezCaughtIt posted...
I'm glad you got a good night on the couch and am going on a couch for the rest day and then you can do anything else and I will not really be the only one I know I am a good man you can be a great person to me call you for your life god god holy Christ holy holy Christ Christ holy god god holy Christ god holy holy Christ holy god god holy holy god everything god god bless you dear god bless god god holy holy god bless them all dear lord

God doesn't want to be a progressive rock band that people expect to not have a hard copy of your credit score on a street corner.
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TopicMFW when I suddenly realized who my favorite character in Game of Thrones is
hockeybub89
08/17/17 10:49:42 PM
#61
TopicAugust cover of The New Yorker
hockeybub89
08/17/17 10:37:21 PM
#3
TopicMFW when I suddenly realized who my favorite character in Game of Thrones is
hockeybub89
08/17/17 10:31:45 PM
#18
TopicChick-Fil-A has a stand in the new Falcons stadium, but won't be open on Sundays
hockeybub89
08/17/17 10:30:07 PM
#39
Ugh I wish they'd stop that stupid practice, but whatever. Still top tier fast food.
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TopicUse your autocorrect to form a sentence.
hockeybub89
08/17/17 10:27:53 PM
#155
jblrulez posted...
The best way to start your day is to get your life together and make sure you have a good day or something like that.

This reminds me of that dude from the military because he was a good character in some violent games on the road to the right of the universe.
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TopicYour VERY gay friend wants to have you over for breakfast
hockeybub89
08/17/17 6:14:41 PM
#19
Topici am proud of america for making trump denounce neo nazis and white nationalists
hockeybub89
08/17/17 6:12:28 PM
#70
muchdran posted...
Oh of course. People have different views automatically makes them a Nazi or white supremacist. Fuck is wrong with you?

Only when they have white supremacist views do I think they are white supremacists. I'm not some SJW.
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TopicInstead of banning cars, couldn't we install failsafes into smart cars where
hockeybub89
08/17/17 6:11:12 PM
#7
Milkman5 posted...
YourDrunkFather posted...
Who is seriously suggesting banning cars?


they are commonly used for mass murder

That isn't what he asked
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Topici am proud of america for making trump denounce neo nazis and white nationalists
hockeybub89
08/17/17 6:08:17 PM
#65
muchdran posted...
metralo posted...
Appollyn posted...
andel posted...
Appollyn posted...
Where did he say nazis have good people among them?


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/537012/


Ah, well there's your problem. I avoid reading news articles anymore because most sites are unbelievably biased/intentionally misleading. If you watch the video of the press conference without all the commentary he pretty much said that nazis/white nationalists are bad, there were people outside of those groups that showed up to protest, and those people were fine people peacefully protesting. I honestly don't understand why people are getting worked up about this unless they seriously think all the people that showed up were nazis.



all of the people that showed up were nazis. you're defending them. stop defending Nazis.

Are you serious?

He's wrong. Some of them were just every day white supremacists or sympathetic allies.
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TopicSo both ISIS and KKK Neo Natzi use vehicles to kill innocent people....
hockeybub89
08/17/17 6:04:58 PM
#6
Yeah, well that means Muslims are the enemy and Nazis are just frustrated white men.
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Topici am proud of america for making trump denounce neo nazis and white nationalists
hockeybub89
08/17/17 6:01:24 PM
#60
tommybel89 posted...
The metric is not which extreme group did the worst. The second you get violent, you've lost the argument and are in the wrong. Antifa has 12+ months of physical assaults versus 1 death by a Nazi. Both sides were denounced by the President and in doing so, he finally got Antifa into the news which the mainstream (besides FOX) have barely talked about. How dense can people be?

TIL Nazis and other right-wing extremists never killed anyone before Saturday. Not like those types of people make up the majority of deadly political violence in America.

It's so disingenuous to suddenly pretend as if all violence and anger is created equally and should be put on the same plane. What Trump said was entirely out of line in the wake of a terror attack by notoriously dangerous right-wing extremists.
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TopicExplain rainbows to me
hockeybub89
08/17/17 5:53:56 PM
#4
TopicDumb senator hopes for Trump's assassination, now asked to resign
hockeybub89
08/17/17 5:50:50 PM
#60
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