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shadowsword87 posted...

Huh.
I've never seen someone actually post a meme with emojis that aren't satire.

This is weird.

You must not see many memes

Wasn't the entire idea behind the spike protein shots that it would be more effective against variants since all the variants have that protein? What happened with that?

captpackrat posted...

People need to learn why boosters are necessary.

The human body has two main types of immune defense cells, B cells and T cells. B cells produce antibodies. Antibodies latch on to specific points on a foreign cell, called antigens. The T cells can then move in and destroy the invaders. Over time, some of the activated B cells turn into long-lived memory cells so the body retains the knowledge of how to fight the pathogens, and some will become plasma cells which constantly produce antibodies.

After an infection, or an initial vaccine, the blood is swarming with antibodies. Like cops on a stake out, if there's another infection, they can immediately respond to take down the bad guys before anything serious happens. A few virus cells may get inside you, but they're stopped almost immediately. Infection is unlikely

But over time the number of antibodies in the body wanes. The cops give up their stake out and just start patrolling the neighborhood. Now when the body is exposed to a pathogen the B cells and memory cells have to start producing antibodies. But by this time the infection has already begun. The antibodies are able to prevent the disease from progressing too far, but you will still become infected and may experience symptoms, though milder than someone with no active immunity.

Booster shots cause the body to reactivate the memory cells and increase the number of plasma cells, flooding the body with more antibodies, making for a faster immune response and less chance of becoming infected.

tl;dr: booster shots keep your immune system on high alert to prevent infection

I'll be sure to get my weekly booster then

UnMead posted...

stop thinking only about yourself

I got my two shots for the hive and it seems to have not done much good at all. What's different about my booster? Why did my two shots 6 months ago not suffice?

Pfizer, BioNTech and Moderna making $1,000 profit every second while worlds poorest countries remain largely unvaccinated

I wonder if capitalism might have something to do with why we have to keep getting this almost worthless shot for the rest of our lives?

Even scientists can be incorrect. And if my shot doesn't even work, I'm really not motivated to keep getting boosters tbh

adjl posted...

Absolutely. What basis do you have to believe that - despite evidence to the contrary from immunologists and epidemiologists studying the matter - a booster will provide no greater immunity to you than you've currently got from your first two shots (presuming, of course, that the recommended amount of time has elapsed since your second shot)?

These same people were telling us a while back that the mRNA vaccines were more effective than previous vaccines and that the spike protein would give us super immunity to covid. And that if you got your shots your life would go back to normal regardless of whether other people got theirs. Fast forward a few months and now they're telling me my shot doesn't last for 3 months lol

adjl posted...

Why do you think that?

Is this a serious question?

adjl posted...

What makes you think both can't be beneficial?

Because I've had two boosters in the same year already lol. I think my immune system remembers

adjl posted...

That is indeed how population health works, yes. Vaccines don't work for people that don't take them, and herd immunity cannot be achieved unless enough people get the vaccine.

I'd ask why every anti-vaxx meme creator doesn't seem to understand anything about vaccination, public health, or reality in general, but I think we all know the answer to that question already.

But what good is a third dose going to be for me if the problem is allegedly those who won't get the shots in the first place

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UnMead posted...

my view is that it had more to do with capitalism that churches closed and liquor stores didnt. Churches dont get taxed at all and alcohol gets taxed up the butt.

It absolutely did lol

adjl posted...

Sure, but then you've got all the usual demand being concentrated into a smaller number of places, which is generally worse for public health. It makes enough sense to leave liquor stores running with extra precautions, rather than shutting them entirely.

Well, if we wanna get into the subtleties of this, I could argue that a lot of people go to church to stay sober or to cope with other issues, and closing churches could be a net negative on the overall mental health of the community. AA is famous for this concept

adjl posted...

Withdrawing from alcohol can kill you. Withdrawing from church means you get to sleep in on Sunday mornings. Leaving liquor stores open seems odd at first glance, but it makes sense because of the problems that would arise if they were closed.

You can buy alcohol at gas stations or grocery stores in most places

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