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Topic[VGMC] Day 51! JFK Cadence/Different World 1, Terra/THEMEX, Tiebreak
KCF0107
07/19/22 1:48:12 AM
#21
JFK
Terra
46

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TopicMario and Zelda, 2D or 3D
KCF0107
07/18/22 8:04:06 AM
#19
I keep forgetting about ALBW, so that's another point for 2D Zelda.

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TopicBest of the Collection: Shovel Knight: Treasure Trove
KCF0107
07/18/22 7:38:20 AM
#2
Having just gone through everything but Shield of Hope over the past few months,

King of Cards > Plague of Shadows > Specter of Torment > Showdown

It has been seven years since I played Shield of Hope, but I imagine it slots 2nd or 3rd.

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Topic[VGMC] Day 50! RftMIM/PowerOne, Mimic/PHENYLALANINE, Supper Woods/Atolm Dragon
KCF0107
07/18/22 5:55:27 AM
#21
Power
Nine
Supper

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TopicBoard 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 17: The Offseason
KCF0107
07/18/22 3:10:45 AM
#32
To Do:
- Update spreadsheet to remove retired players, adjust ratings, adjust ages/contracts, make sure to include AI to User financial changes and vice versa, etc...

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TopicBoard 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 17: The Offseason
KCF0107
07/18/22 3:10:10 AM
#31
I will go through each division and list each head coach and their overall record, not just with the team they are currently with, as well as their winning percentage, represented by an actual percentage since it doesn't require any work from me as the game has it listed that way. The record/winning percentage includes the playoffs and any wins/losses they may have accumulated prior to B8NFLL (with one exception).

AFC West
Broncos - Vinny Testaverde (117-73, 61%)
Chiefs - Rex Ryan (46-66, 41%)
Express - Jeff Fisher (199-164, 54%)
Raiders - Norv Turner (184-204-1, 47%)

AFC East
Bills - Andy Reid (142-125, 53%)
Dolphins - Kailee Wong (39-15, 72%)
Jets - Chad Pennington (21-27, 43%)
Patriots - Ed Donatell (16-17, 48%)

AFC North
Bengals - Brett Favre (77-61, 59%)
Browns - Earl Holmes (10-22, 31%)
Ravens - Corey Dillon (61-44, 58%)
Steelers - Bill Cowher (285-204-2, 58%)

AFC South
Colts - Ron Meeks (38-44, 46%)
Jaguars - Pat Williams (15-17, 46%)
Pioneers - LaVar Arrington (15-19, 44%)
Titans - Jamie Sharper (32-33, 49%)

NFC West
49ers - Mike Nolan (136-117-1, 51%)
Rams - Kerry Collins (81-30, 72%)
Seahawks - Jerry Gray (108-96-1, 52%)
Wildcats - Donnie Henderson (108-104, 50%)

NFC East
Cowboys - Bill Belichick (100-112, 47%)
Eagles - Brian Billick (175-190-1, 47%)
Giants - Mike Zimmer (69-80 46%)
Washington - Will Shields (45-40, 52%)

NFC North
Bears - Ron Rivera (26-56, 31%)
Lions - Lovie Smith (122-142-1, 46%)
Packers - Mike Shanahan (234-149, 61%)
Vikings - Flozell Adams (22-14, 61%)

NFC South
Buccaneers - Derrick Brooks (32-20, 61%)
Falcons - Jim Mora Jr. (146-138, 51%)
Orcas - Tutan Reyes (22-14, 61%)
Panthers - Jon Gruden (198-156, 55%)

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TopicBoard 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 17: The Offseason
KCF0107
07/18/22 2:59:21 AM
#30
The following is a list of players, separated by the year they entered the league, who have spent at least 10 seasons in the league who have started every possible game to begin their career. I will indicate the team(s) that they have played for as well as the total games to save everyone from doing the math.

Inaugural Season (256 games)
DT Tommie Harris (Broncos)

Season 4 (208 games)
TE Zach Miller (Dolphins)

Season 5 (192 games)
TE Rory Nicol (Giants)
TE Dane Guthrie (Wildcats, now retired)

Season 7 (160 games)
DT Terrance Knighton (Chiefs, Wildcats)
FS James Riley (Eagles)

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TopicBoard 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 17: The Offseason
KCF0107
07/18/22 2:55:15 AM
#29
With 16 seasons done, we have lost quite a few more players that have been around since the beginning. We are now down to the final 10:

RT Junius Coston (Vikings)
DT Tommie Harris (Broncos)
K Nate Kaeding (Pioneers)
K Mike Nugent (Washington)
K Josh Scobee (49ers)
K Robbie Gould (Buccaneers)
P Andy Groom (Packers)
P Kyle Larson (Eagles)
P Andy Lee (Rams)
P Dustin Colquitt (Colts)

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TopicIf you had to choose a fight to regularly participate in.....
KCF0107
07/17/22 11:15:40 PM
#28
redrocket posted...
Its reaction to getting wounded, mortally or not, it to retreat.

You are missing one half of the fight or flight response. You cannot say with certainty that it would choose flight.

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
TopicPost a game that the next poster probably hasn't played.
KCF0107
07/17/22 9:34:47 PM
#29
notdave posted...
Eat Lead: The Return of Matt Hazard

For some reason, I actually beat this twice

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
TopicMario and Zelda, 2D or 3D
KCF0107
07/17/22 9:08:05 PM
#3
There is like one great 3D Zelda (MM, haven't played BotW) while there are a fair more 2D ones (LttP, FSA, LA, OoS). Super Mario is my favorite series. There's just tons of high quality games from both types. I voted 3D Mario and 2D Zelda despite my Top 4 Super Mario games being 2D.

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
TopicGame of Gen 4: Super Metroid vs. Donkey Kong GB | Turtles in Time vs. Mega Man V
KCF0107
07/17/22 8:07:54 PM
#8
Donkey Kong
TMNT

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
TopicIf you had to choose a fight to regularly participate in.....
KCF0107
07/17/22 8:07:11 PM
#7
I could easily just open a car door and smack or kick a chicken out of it, not that I would want to be doing that constantly. I don't have the heart or stomach to strike, or rather attempt to strike, an orangutan with a sword. That option is even less enticing if it is the orangutan with the sword.

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
TopicPost a game that the next poster probably hasn't played.
KCF0107
07/17/22 5:13:57 PM
#8
Wirewalk()

I have played Tales of Legendia, Whomp 'Em, and Papo & Yo

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
Topic[VGMC] Day 49! memfctry/PassForest, ST DotCoGH/NcssryDscrpncy, 46-:ri9/C2Forever
KCF0107
07/17/22 1:02:29 AM
#16
Passing
Good
46

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
Topic[VGMC] Video Game Music Contest 16 - Bracket Discussion and Results Thread!!
KCF0107
07/16/22 9:13:44 PM
#276
HasteDeux posted...
What would result if we had precisely the same active voters from VGMC XIV voting in this contest


It's not a prediction. It is using voting data from this contest based on this.

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
TopicDo you like this character? Day 1407: Trevor Philips (Grand Theft Auto V)
KCF0107
07/16/22 8:55:11 PM
#17
Yes

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Topic[VGMC] Day 48! EndlessDsrt/NightBird, TimeSlow/AtlantDolph, Yusnaan/EmmCatal
KCF0107
07/16/22 6:12:28 AM
#28
Endless
Atlantic
City

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
TopicPost Each Time You Beat a Game: 2022 Edition
KCF0107
07/15/22 3:50:26 PM
#384
Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward (XB1)

Despite being my least favorite of the trilogy, I have probably beaten it the most since it was released on the most platforms.

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
Topic[VGMC] Day 47! HumanFigure/DodoLair, WindBloomMtn DrgnFeedPpl, IroniA/AncntMakes
KCF0107
07/15/22 3:47:45 PM
#42
Dodo's
Feed
Iron

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
TopicBest of the Collection: The Legend of Zelda: Collector's Edition
KCF0107
07/15/22 7:42:05 AM
#4
MM > LoZ > OoT > AoL

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
TopicBest PS2 games that have never been re-released?
KCF0107
07/15/22 5:50:18 AM
#30
I know that was re-released because I bought it on PS4

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
TopicWhat's your fourth favorite franchise that started on the NES?
KCF0107
07/15/22 4:43:51 AM
#19
1. Super Mario Bros
2. Metroid?
3. Dragon Quest?
4. Mega Man?

I really need to play more Castlevanias. I could see it potentially rising to third. I have both of the recent compilation collections as well as a bunch of the more modern ones through GWG, so it is just a matter of when.

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
TopicJuly Game of the Month Club ft. Paperball, DOOM 64, Tunic, and Maneater
KCF0107
07/15/22 12:53:14 AM
#26
Tunic is pretty much an open-exploration, linear progression kind of game. You can access a lot from the start but you won't be able to get far.

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
TopicBoard 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 17: The Offseason
KCF0107
07/14/22 10:39:48 PM
#27
Howard - Yes

Howard was famously a massive reach for the Giants because of Eddv's strategy of absolutely taking a DE in the 1st, and that player ended up being Howard who had like a 2nd-3rd round grade. Howard didn't start immediately and sat behind R-Kal Truluck (RIP) in what ended up being a 15-1 Super Bowl-winning season for the team in which they had one of the best defensive seasons in our league's history. Howard succeeded him the following season in an enviable supporting cast and ran away with it, becoming one of the most prolific sackers in our history with a good amount of FFs and FRs. He ended up missing almost two seasons worth of games, so you have to wonder how close he could have come to Travis Johnson's career marks, but he certainly had a Hall of Fame career.

Wroten - Yes

I have long gushed about the stellar two-way play of Wroten. He was also never injured until the final two seasons, so he came very close to having started every possible game in his career. Wroten was one of two rookies to be named player of the year at their position. His lack of Pro Bowls can be attributed to Madden's underappreciation for players of Wroten's skillset who provide a great amount of tackles and sacks but rarely are among the league leaders at such stats among DL. He had a high impact on the Lions and Panthers though, with him forming a long-time tandem with fellow Hall of Famer LeKevin Smith as arguably the most important members on some steller Detroit defenses, including a Super Bowl-winning S6. Ever since they shipped him out in an ill-fated trade on draft day a couple seasons after their Super Bowl victory, the Lions defense hasn't been the same. Ditto goes to the Panthers defense in the two seasons when he was in Baltimore. He clearly has had a profound impact in the league.

Wright - Yes

Wright has always been a solid #2 DT in his career, playing alongside some greats in Sam Adams and John Mixon (he was the #1 DT ahead of Mixon for a little bit before Mixon overtook him), before ending his career as the clear #1 in Chicago. He's been a very good run defender and had some pass-rushing chops as evidenced by his 91 career sacks. He also had 24 career FFs+FRs, which is a great mark for a DT. He was even named DL of the Year, as well as four Pro Bowl trips. Why am I hesitating then? It might be because three of his 15 seasons provided more than a third of his career sacks and more than half of his career FFs+FRs. It's not like he has disappeared in the other 12 seasons. He still routinely provides 50+ tackles, but I'm looking at a bunch of seasons with 4 or fewer sacks and 0 or 1 FFs+FRs. I don't know, this is a bit of an iffy case for me even though I have been vocal about my bias toward DL. His peak seasons have been spread apart, but I guess I should give more weight to his DL of the Year award and where his career stats ended up. I will say yes.

Brown - Yes

Brown is a fascinating player. Like Hall of Famer Kamerion Wimbley, Brown began his career as a free agent for awhile before latching onto a team and against all rational thought soon found themselves the starter. From there Brown became just an all-around menace. He was a tackling machine and provided a great amount of sacks, INTs, and FFs+FRs. He clearly made the most of his opportunities. In spite of his limited time in the league, with injuries also plaguing him, he was a two-time Defensive Player of the Year. While my seasonal averages postings are inherently flawed, calculating per 16 games would just be too much of a hassle when this is already a pretty involving aspect of B8NFLL on my end. I'm sure though that his per-16 game averages though would be bonkers. Man those Vikings teams really had some insane defenders if they might get three Hall of Famers in two voting periods.

Bowman - No

It's not often that CBs will find themselves on the ballot, so I decided to add him to the list, but I just don't think that he has much of a case since CBs don't statistically stand out. While I acknowledge his importance and long tenure as a starter on excellent Ravens defenses, I would have liked to see more Pro Bowls and a slight uptick in INTs and/or FFs+FRs.

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
TopicBoard 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 17: The Offseason
KCF0107
07/14/22 10:39:42 PM
#26
Because I'm the only one capable of understanding the context of these players careers, I acknowledge that for some it can be difficult to judge these players as a result. As always, here is my public ballot to possibly be a reference tool for whatever the participants ultimately decide.

Manson - No

Manson's impact in the first two seasons of his time with the Pioneers cannot be understated as he transformed the offense into a complete unit with his dual-threat nature en route to their only trips to the Super Bowl, including a win in S14. Outside of that, which did include him being an MVP finalist in S13, you have a pretty mixed bag. He's done well at being efficient and finding the end zone, but he had a weird tenure with the Raiders with a bunch of time-sharing with Romance Taylor to where he had two 1000 yard seasons in six years there, and one was 1015 yards. He spent two seasons in Washington, and one was where he played in a career low four games due to injury. In four seasons with the Pioneers, he had two fantastic seasons, an embarassing S15 where he started all 16 games and failed to eclipse 1000 yards, and a decent swan song with an 1185 yard season, albeit on his second-worst YPC in his career (4.0). His weird career trajectory and untimely injuries caused him to finally record 10k career rushing yards in his final season. This isn't like a Courtney Lewis situation where Lewis was handed a starting job late in his career and became one of the finest HBs when given the opportunity. Manson's effectiveness and production was just all over the place. While I'm thankful for what he did when I was in charge of the Pioneers, I think I would want to see more consistency or at least more standout seasons to vote yes for a player at a position that is bound to have Hall of Fame candidates maybe every season.

Jackson - Yes

His first four seasons in the league as a Titan were that of a promising dual-threat HB with the usual efficiency issues and modest TD totals. His final two seasons there were marred by injury, so Stan shipped him out to his division rival the Jaguars where he backed up and filled in for an injured Adrian Peterson in his most efficient and highest-scoring season yet. He then signed with the Raiders where he blossomed into one of the league's best runners and was a MVP-finalist multiple times there. He finished in the Top 5 all-time B8NFLL rushing list and had 94 total TDs. He's a definite Hall of Famer to me.

Hillis - No

Look, I was trying to decide some people to add toward the end, and I decided that since we will likely never have another FB candidate (multiple blocking ones I believe are, but I don't have the statistics to be able to convince others), I might as well add him in for positional variety/scarcity. Brian Leonard was the only offensive FB I found worthy of being a hall of famer, so Hillis is a no from me.

Jarrett - No

If there's a player to look to indicate how difficult it is for WRs to really set themselves apart from the pack, Jarrett might be the guy. Nobody outside of me would probably guess he would be in the Top 10 among active players in receptions and receiving yards, and it's possible I might have not considered it given I am aware of his injury history and that the Jets never had a passing offense among the league's most prolific. Still, even as a Day 1 starter, the fact he got to over 9000 yards despite more than two seasons worth of games due to injuries is an accomplishment of its own.

Guthrie - Yes

After a rookie season with 48 rec and 412 yards, Guthrie never dipped below either figure in the rest of his career, finishing with one of the best totals in both categories for a player at his position. He could remain high on the receiving yards by a TE leaderboard for the rest of B8NFLL now that I look at the career stats some more. He was also for a stretch the clear best receiving TE in the game, having won TE of the Year three years straight.

Olivea - Yes

The easiest yes from this group. Olivea's career block total could wind up still being the highest when this project is all said and done. While his 10.8 blocks per sack allowed in his career isn't among the upper echelon, it is still an excellent mark to sustain over 16 seasons while also misleading. He spent the final five seasons at G thanks to fellow OTs Matt Kalil and Andre Smith. There, Olivea put up 294 blocks vs 39 sacks, or 7.5 blocks per sack allowed, which is an elite figure for an interior OL. So he's actually been an elite OL at tackle and guard, and his OT block:sack ratio is 12.6, also an elite mark. The 10 Pro Bowls and his profound impact on the Broncos further solidify his no-brainer candidacy.

Jones - Yes

Nobody else is going to say yes, and I fully understand that. Why would I expect anyone to with no formal recognition and stats that don't really jump out? Well let me tell you why I am saying yes. He may officially be an OT, but he's been the Titans RG for the past six seasons. He began his career with the Giants as a 4th round pick and played sparingly as a backup OT. He looked promising, and the AI Orcas, then Lightning or maybe still Saints, plucked him during RFA. He had a good start with 124 blocks against 12 sacks but was riddled with injuries and poor play his final two seasons with 49 blocks against 12 sacks. All as an OT still. He then landed with the Titans and just beasted his final seven seasons. He had 60 blocks against 4 sacks in his lone season as the RT there, but after being displaced to RG because of signing Phil Trautwein, he put up 313 blocks against 32 sacks. I would have to assume that ratio is tops among all starting guards during that span. He had 50-70 blocks in five of those six seasons, so I have no doubt in my mind that he would have been named to the Pro Bowl 4-5 times had he officially been a G.

White - No

Ah shit, I forgot about White. I don't feel likedelving too much into his career, so I'm just going to say that he was underrated, as his career ratios suggest, but I never would consider him to be a hall of famer.

Pino - No
Merz - No


I'm tickled that Pino and Merz had long, successful careers in B8NFLL. I got this game around release in 2005, and sometime later I ended up buying on Ebay a memory card for the Xbox that came pre-loaded with four draft classes from NCAA Football 06 with players already renamed, some that were amusingly misspelled or shortened like D'Brick Ferguson. I have three franchises from that time where I took control of two teams (Ravens/Vikings and Seahawks/Bengals were two), but my main franchise was Dolphins/Jaguars. I, of course, had more of an attachment fro the former, and thus I paid closer attention to the AFC East. In that first draft in the second season, the Jets drafted both Pino and Merz for their team, and I sort of had a soft spot for them as they were stalwarts for the Jets for all seven seasons that I completed (I haven't touched them or the others since I began B8NFLL in 2013).

Anyway, Pino's Pro Bowl totals do raise some eyebrows, but ultimately he and Merz' career ratios aren't quite up to my standards for a Hall of Fame interior OL.

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
TopicGame of Gen 4: Street Fighter II v Super Mario Kart | Mega Man X v Rocket Knight
KCF0107
07/14/22 8:56:39 PM
#14
Super Mario Kart
Rocket Knight

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TopicBoard 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 17: The Offseason
KCF0107
07/14/22 1:41:47 AM
#25
When I finish up my ballot that I always post, I will give my reason why I put Jones on it.

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
Topic[VGMC] Day 46! Round 2! DrmsInPie/Laby5, FrestScret/Kobayashi, Mechonis/KazeNoNe
KCF0107
07/14/22 1:31:49 AM
#17
Forgotten
Imaginary
Field

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TopicBest PS2 games that have never been re-released?
KCF0107
07/14/22 1:18:16 AM
#3
Splashdown: Rides Gone Wild is easily my choice

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
TopicBoard 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 17: The Offseason
KCF0107
07/13/22 10:51:06 PM
#23
The deadline to submit a ballot will be Sunday, July 24th at 6 PM ET. I will do a live ceremony in our Discord channel later that day. Then we will officially begin the offseason on Monday.

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
TopicBoard 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 17: The Offseason
KCF0107
07/13/22 10:50:14 PM
#22
11. DE Loren Howard
- Played all 15 seasons for Giants (216 games, 200 starts)
- 575 tackles, 110 sacks, 1 INT, 13 FFs, 10 FRs, 1 def TD
- Season averages of 38.3 tackles, 7.3 sacks, 0.8 FFs, 0.6 FRs
- 6-time Pro Bowler (S3, S4, S6, S8, S10, S11)

Howard finished among active/just retired players 1st in sacks, T-19th in FFs

12. DT Claude Wroten
- Played S2-S8 for Lions, S9-S13 + S16 for Panthers, S14-S15 for Ravens (223 starts)
- 707 tackles, 104 sacks, 15 FFs, 7 FRs
- Season averages of 47.1 tackles, 6.9 sacks, 1.0 FFs, 0.4 FRs
- 2-time Pro Bowler (S2, S9)
- Defensive Rookie of the Year (S2)
- Co-DL of the Year (S2)

Wroten finished among active/just retired players 31st in tackles, 2nd in sacks, T-7th in FFs

13. DT Rodrique Wright
- Played S2-S5 for Vikings, S6-S14 for Rams, S15-S16 for Bears (211 starts)
- 650 tackles, 91 sacks, 15 FFs, 9 FRs
- Season averages of 43.3 tackles, 6.0 sacks, 1.0 FFs, 0.6 FRs
- 4-time Pro Bowler (S6, S7, S9, S11)
- 1-time DL of the Year (S11)

Wright finished among active/just retired players 7th in sacks, T-7th in FFs

14. OLB Zach Brown
- Free Agent S4-S6, Played S7-S15 for Vikings, S16 for Browns (122 games, 92 starts)
- 901 tackles, 28 sacks, 15 INTs, 14 FFs, 13 FRs, 6 def TDs
- Season averages of 90.1 tackles, 2.8 sacks, 1.5 INTs, 1.4 FFs, 1.3 FRs (excluded free agent years)
- 2-time solo or Co-LB of the Year (S10, S12)
- 2-time solo or Co-Defensive Player of the Year (S10, S12)

Brown finished among active/just retired players 13th in tackles, T-12th in FFs, T-15th in FRs, 2nd in def TDs

15. CB Zackary Bowman
- Played all 13 seasons for Ravens (206 games, 174 starts)
- 247 tackles, 28 INTs, 7 FFs, 3 FRs, 1 def TD
- Season averages of 19 tackles, 2.1 INTs, 0.5 FFs, 0.2 FRs
- 1-time Pro Bowler (S7)

Bowman finished among active/just retired players 2nd in INTs

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
TopicBoard 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 17: The Offseason
KCF0107
07/13/22 10:48:32 PM
#21
6. OT Shane Olivea
- Played all 16 seasons for Broncos (244 starts)
- 1189 blocks vs 110 sacks allowed (10.8 blocks per sack allowed)
- Season averages of 74.3 blocks vs 6.8 sacks allowed
- 10-time Pro Bowler (S2, S3, S4, S5, S6, S7, S8, S9, S10, S11)
- 2-time solo or Co-OL of the Year (S9, S11)

Olivea finished among active/just retired players 1st in blocks (267 more than the next player)

7. OT Mike Jones
- Played S3-S5 for Giants, S6-S9 for Orcas, S10-S16 for Titans (175 games, 142 starts)
- 583 blocks vs 64 sacks allowed (9.1 blocks per sack allowed)
- Season averages of 41.6 blocks vs 4.5 sacks allowed

Jones finished among active/just retired players 15th in blocks

8. C Chris White
- Played all 16 seasons for Chiefs (206 games, 193 starts)
- 640 blocks vs 105 sacks allowed (6.0 blocks per sack allowed)
- Season averages of 40 blocks vs 6.5 sacks allowed

White finished among active/just retired players 10th in blocks

9. G Chris Pino
- Played all 15 seasons for Cowboys (224 games, 208 starts)
- 672 blocks vs 121 sacks allowed (5.5 blocks per sack allowed)
- Season averages of 44.8 blocks vs 8.0 blocks allowed
- 7-time Pro Bowler (S4, S5, S7, S8, S11, S13, S14)

Pino finished among active/just retired players 6th in blocks

10. G Aaron Merz
- Played S2-S7 for Buccaneers, S8-S16 for Falcons (190 starts, 167 starts)
- 492 blocks vs 83 sacks allowed (5.9 blocks per sack allowed)
- Season averages of 32.8 blocks vs 5.5 sacks allowed)
- 3-time Pro Bowler (S7, S9, S10)

Merz finished among active/just retired players 32nd in blocks

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
TopicBoard 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 17: The Offseason
KCF0107
07/13/22 10:47:03 PM
#20
1. HB Markus Manson
- Played S5-S10 for Raiders, S11-S12 for Washington, S13-S16 for Pioneers (161 games, 129 starts)
- 2435 carries for 10653 yards (4.3 YPC), 62 TDs, 24 fumbles (1 fumble for every 116.7 touches)
- 367 receptions for 2791 yards (7.6 YPC), 10 TDs
- Season averages of 202.9 carries for 887.7 yards, 30.5 receptions for 232.5 yards, 6.0 total TDs
- 1-time Pro Bowler (S13)

Manson finished among active/just retired players 5th in rushing yards and rushing TDs, 9th in rushing YPC, and 7th in total TDs

2. HB R.J. Jackson
- Played S6-S9 for Titans, S10 for Jaguars, S11-S16 for Raiders (150 games, 142 starts)
- 3174 carries for 13492 yards (4.2 YPC), 80 TDs, 30 fumbles (1 fumble for every 117.8 touches)
- 394 receptions for 3250 yards (8.2 YPC), 14 TDs
- Season averages of 288.5 carries for 1226.5 yards, 35.8 receptions for 295.4 yards, 8.5 total TDs
- 3-time Pro Bowler (S6, S12, S15)
- Offensive Rookie of the Year (S6)
- 2-time Co-HB of the Year (S12, S15)

Jackson finished among active/just retired players 2nd in rushing yards and rushing TDs and T-3rd in total TDs

3. FB Peyton Hillis
- Played S4-S7 for Seahawks, S8-S16 for Chiefs (156 games, 155 starts)
- 1297 carries for 4389 yards (3.3 YPC), 49 TDs, 12 fumbles (1 fumble for every 111.6 touches)
- 43 receptions for 339 yards (7.8 YPC), 2 TDs
- Season averages of 99.7 carries for 337.6 yards, 3.3 receptions for 26.0 yards, 3.9 total TDs
- 3-time Pro Bowler (S8, S14, S15)

Hillis finished among active/just retired FBs 1st in rushing yards, rushing TDs, and total TDs

4. WR Dwayne Jarrett
- Played all 13 seasons for Jets (174 starts)
- 718 receptions for 9018 yards (12.5 YPC), 60 TDs (1 rushing)
- Season averages of 55.2 receptions for 693.6 yards, 4.6 TDs
- 2-time Pro Bowler (S8, S10)

Jarrett finished among active/just retired players 7th in receptions and 4th in receiving yards

5. TE Dane Guthrie
- Played all 12 seasons for Wildcats (192 starts)
- 786 receptions for 7102 yards (9.0 YPC), 42 TDs (1 rushing)
- Season averages of 65.5 receptions for 591.8 yards, 3.5 total TDs
- 5-time Pro Bowler (S8, S9, S10, S11, S15)
- 3-time TE of the Year (S9, S10, S11)

Guthrie finished among active/just retired players 4th in receptions, 10th in receiving yards

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TopicBoard 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 17: The Offseason
KCF0107
07/13/22 10:44:41 PM
#19
B8NFLL Hall of Fame Ballot

The following posts will contain 15 players and their career accomplishments up for immortalization. This is not a stacked group, so I had difficulty deciding who to include after awhile. It has been suggested that I don't stick to a 15-person ballot in the future, but we shall see.

This is a yes/no exercise, and there are no limits/minimum requirements to who you say yes to. Participation is of course voluntary, and you can PM them to me, DM me on Discord, post in the topic, discuss or whatever. You decide what your criteria for selection is. You can base it solely off of the context of B8NFLL, compare to real life stats, or some marriage of the two. Given how active participation in the league has its peaks and valleys, I will not have a specific target percentage of Yes votes that will ensure enshrinement. It will of course be north of 50% at the very least.

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TopicBoard 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 17: The Offseason
KCF0107
07/13/22 5:06:28 PM
#18
To Do:
- Hall of Fame ballot
- Update spreadsheet to remove retired players, adjust ratings, adjust ages/contracts, make sure to include AI to User financial changes and vice versa, etc...
- Do trivia/interesting tidbits like I always do about ironman streaks/coaches/whatever

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TopicBoard 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 17: The Offseason
KCF0107
07/13/22 5:05:53 PM
#17
The Almighty Slash Line

All contracts will be presented to you via slash lines. It is imperative that you interpret and understand a slash line and its components, so here is an example to kick off my seasonal explanation:

3 / $9.00 mil / $1.80 mil

3 = length in seasons that the contract will last. All contracts will end up being between 1-7 seasons in length. There are some in-game and league-mandated limitations on length, but I will explain that rather soon.

$9.00 mil = Total salary that a player will earn over the life of the contract should the contract not be reworked while still under said contract or the player released.

Using this example, the player will receive $9.00 mil over three seasons, which gives him an average cap hit of $3.00 mil. His cap hit will not be $3.00 mil in each season though. This contract will see the player's cap hit rise each season, so his first year cap hit might be $2.42 mil, $2.90 mil for the second season, and $3.68 mil for the final season.

$1.80 mil = Portion of total salary that is guaranteed, aka signing bonus. For most, this is the hardest thing to grasp about the slash line and contracts in general. The NFL does not have fully guaranteed contracts, which means that what a player signs for might not actually be what they receive in the end. The team that signs a player to a contract will always be on the hook for the final figure in a slash line, with the only exception being if a player retires while under contract.

Using this example, the player might have a cap hit of $2.42, $2.90, and $3.68 mil in the first, second, and third seasons. However, his signing bonus is stretched out evenly across every season. The annual bonus in this contract would be $600k ($1.80 mil / 3 years). The annual bonus is a feature on the team financial sheet, so that info will always be available to you.

Now, if you trade or release a player under contract with guaranteed money, you will receive a reduction in your salary cap space, aka cap penalty, that is equal to their annual bonus x the years remaining on their contract. Using this example once again, let's say the player is released after the first season. That would leave him with $1.20 mil left in guaranteed money ($600k annual bonus x 2 years left on contract). The team that signed him to that contract would then be issued a cap penalty the following offseason to the tune of $1.20 mil.

If that player would be traded instead, the original team would receive the same cap penalty, but the new team would have a discounted contract. Because the original team is always on the hook for the guaranteed money, the $1.20 mil that is still owed that player is taken out of the contract for the new team. If the cap hits for years 2 and 3 were originally $2.90 and $3.68 mil and the annual bonus was $600k, then the new cap hits for the new team would be $2.30 and $3.08 mil. The new team could then release or trade the player at any time without financial repercussions since the contract no longer had any guaranteed money attached.

Finally, in case someone doesn't know, mil = dollars in millions while k = dollars in thousands.

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TopicBoard 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 17: The Offseason
KCF0107
07/13/22 5:00:57 PM
#16
What happens if you idle during the offseason?

For starters, anyone is free to ask me for advice at any point, and if real life requires you to take a small break at some point that prevents you from doing an event or more, feel free to ask me to temporarily take over your team, and I will make decisions as if I were in charge of your team. However, if the worst comes to pass, I have safety nets in place to protect user teams.

Should you idle during Restricted Free Agency, I will sign a random two players, if applicable, to random tender levels. I will not participate in the second phase on behalf of your team, and should any of your RFAs be signed by other players during that phase, I will default to not matching the deal in the third and final phase.

Should you idle during Unrestricted Free Agency, I officially sign a random half of your players, rounding up, to the contracts that they ask for.

Should you idle during the draft, I will draft as if I were in charge of your team.

Should you idle during free agency, this is unavoidably the most harsh of the four offseason events. I will not sign any players for you and the AI will fill the holes on your behalf at the conclusion of free agency.

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TopicBoard 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 17: The Offseason
KCF0107
07/13/22 4:59:55 PM
#15
Offseason in a Nutshell

There are four major events during the offseason. They will be explained in full detail when the time comes, but here they are:

1. Restricted Free Agency
2. Unrestricted Free Agents
3. NFL Draft + Signing Rookies
4. Free Agency

Restricted Free Agency - This is the most complex of the four, yet it is the one that has the lowest activity. A small sub-section of players whose contracts run out are considered restricted free agents. These players can, but do not have to, be signed by their original teams to a 1 year contract at one of three fixed amounts. Those that do sign can then be offered contracts by any of the other 31 teams to multiyear deals. Any team who has a player sign a contract with another team will then have the opportunity to match said contract or let them sign with another team and receive NFL Draft pick compensation.

Unrestricted Free Agents - Any player with an expired contract who was not considered a restricted free agent is thus an unrestricted free agent. Teams then can elect to re-sign the remaining players or let them enter the free agent market. Unlike the previous event, the other 31 teams cannot do anything to you, so you are free to operate without outside pressure. There are a few more wrinkles, but it is pretty straightforward.

NFL Draft + Signing Rookies - This is an event where all 32 teams can select college football players to join their team. Each team normally has seven draft picks, one for each of the seven rounds of the draft. The order that a team selects is based on their record and playoff performance, if applicable, from the season before. Earlier in the topic, I mentioned this season's draft order, and all teams are free to trade draft picks. After the draft, a separate period of time is devoted to signing all the players that a team drafted.

Free Agency - All players not signed or re-signed in the previous three events enter the free agent pool, and this is the time that every team is able to bid on the services of those without a team (aka free agents).

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Topic[VGMC] Day 45! End R1! Photoconductivity/Worlds End, Grand Finale/End of Summer
KCF0107
07/13/22 12:48:11 AM
#18
World's
Finale

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TopicBest Emilio Estevez Movie Day 1
KCF0107
07/12/22 9:43:54 PM
#7
He was just a child for the first two and presumably got very minor (non-speaking maybe?) roles because his dad (Martin Sheen) starred in both. He was part of Ethan Hunt's team in the first Mission: Impossible film.

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TopicBest Emilio Estevez Movie Day 1
KCF0107
07/12/22 9:32:37 PM
#5
Badlands, Apocalypse Now, or Mission: Impossible, but since we are excluding ones where he had a minor role in, I have no clue as I don't care for or have never seen every movie on this poll.

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Topic[VGMC] Day 44! PROTEASE/prime4507, Misty Er'a/Supraspatial
KCF0107
07/12/22 8:36:00 PM
#59
Tease
Spatial

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TopicBoard 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 16: The Regular Season
KCF0107
07/12/22 8:24:44 PM
#432
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80092079

New topic

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TopicBoard 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 17: The Offseason
KCF0107
07/12/22 8:24:06 PM
#7
To Do:
- Send Express stat PM
- Calculate new salary cap
- Hall of Fame ballot
- Offseason in a Nutshell
- Explain what happens if you idle
- Slash Line Explained
- Update spreadsheet to remove retired players, adjust ratings, adjust ages/contracts, make sure to include AI to User financial changes and vice versa, etc...
- Do trivia/interesting tidbits like I always do about ironman streaks/coaches/whatever

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
TopicBoard 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 17: The Offseason
KCF0107
07/12/22 8:22:01 PM
#6
Pioneers
HB Markus Manson (13444 total yards, 72 TDs, 1-time Pro Bowler)
LG Grayling Love
QB Chad Henne
QB John David Booty
ROLB O'Brien Schofield
CB Anthony Wiseman
LE LaMarr Woodley

Raiders
HB R.J. Jackson (16742 total yards, 94 TDs, 3-time Pro Bowler)

Rams
LT Davin Joseph
LG Taitusi Lutui
QB Brian Brohm
TE Dajleon Farr
DT Randy Starks (821 tackles, 81 sacks, 14 FFs, 11 FRs)
LE Chris Harrington (1-time Pro Bowler)
LE Melvin Alaeze
CB Richard Sherman (1-time Pro Bowler)

Ravens
SS Reggie Nelson (405 tackles, 6 sacks, 20 INTs, 7 FFs, 6 FRs)
CB Zackary Bowman (247 tackles, 28 INTs, 7 FFs, 3 FRs, 1-time Pro Bowler)
WR Todd Nolen

Seahawks
LG Robert Turner (1-time Pro Bowler)
WR O.J. Murdock
MLB Josh Williams (710 tackles, 11 sacks, 8 INTs, 8 FFs, 11 FRs)
HB Shane Archie
LT Andrew Gardner
LG Freddy Saint-Preux
RE Jason Jack

Steelers
none

Titans
P Mike Scifres (1281 punts for 55849 yards, 10-22, 126 yards, 2 TDs, 2 INTs as a passer beating the Jets as a Bill I think)
RT Mike Jones (583 blocks, 64 sacks)
FS Pat Pollard
RG Steve Shidell

Vikings
FB Javorski Lane (49 career TDs, 4-time Pro Bowler)
LT John Greco
WR David Gettis
RE Ty Steinkuhler
RE D.J. Norris

Washington
P Donnie Jones (1126 punts for 48336 yards, 1-3 FGAs, 3-3 XPAs)
C Nick Mangold

Wildcats
TE Dane Guthrie (786 rec for 7102 yards, 41 TDs, 5-time Pro Bowler)
RG Tyler McMeans (1-time Pro Bowler)

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TopicBoard 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 17: The Offseason
KCF0107
07/12/22 8:01:17 PM
#5
Express
TE Jared Cook
LE Cameron Morrah
CB Jamario O'Neal
LE Steve Octavien

Falcons
LT Eric Winston (453 blocks, 46 sacks allowed)
LG Aaron Merz (492 blocks, 80 sacks allowed, 3-time Pro Bowler)
WR Early Doucet (646 rec for 7934 yards, 50 TDs, 2-time Pro Bowler)

49ers
TE Martellus Bennett

Giants
LE Loren Howard (575 tackles, 110 sacks, 1 INT, 13 FFs, 10 FRs, 6-time Pro Bowler)

Jaguars
none

Jets
WR Dwayne Jarrett (718 rec for 9018 yards, 59 TDs, 2-time Pro Bowler)
FB Marcel Reese

Lions
C Greg Eslinger (648 blocks, 145 sacks allowed)

Orcas
WR Marquis Wilson

Packers
LG Logan Mankins (623 blocks, 114 sacks allowed, 2-time Pro Bowler, spent all 16 seasons with Packers)

Panthers
DT Claude Wroten (707 tackles, 104 sacks, 15 FFs, 7 FRs, 2-time Pro Bowler)
LOLB Justin Houston (3-time Pro Bowler)

Patriots
FB Mike Smith (2-time Pro Bowler)
ROLB Bruce Irvin (1-time Pro Bowler)
CB Victor Harris

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TopicBoard 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 17: The Offseason
KCF0107
07/12/22 7:51:02 PM
#4
Player Retirements by Team

Bears
DT Rodrique Wright (650 tackles, 91 sacks, 15 FFs, 9 FRs, 4-time Pro Bowler)

Bengals
ROLB Mason Foster (1-time Pro Bowler)
LE Ahmad Brooks (2-time Pro Bowler)
MLB Harrison Gould

Bills
WR Trumaine Smith
CB Justin King (246 tackles, 1 sack, 22 INTs, 6 FFs, 8 FRs, 1-time Pro Bowler)

Broncos
RT Shane Olivea (1189 blocks, 110 sacks allowed, 10-time Pro Bowler)
QB Jamarcus Russell

Browns
HB Jonathan Stewart
ROLB Zach Brown (2-time Defensive Player of the Year, never a Pro Bowler)
LE Pierre Woods (774 tackles, 86 sacks, 13 FFs, 4 FRs)

Buccaneers
WR Kenny O'Neal
FS Dorian Monroe
RG Nick Jones
SS Byron Cook

Chiefs
FB Peyton Hillis (51 career TDs, 3-time Pro Bowler)
C Chris White (640 blocks, 105 sacks allowed)
RE Dedrick Harrington
FS Edwin Parks
SS Kyle Hollins (397 tackles, 2 sacks, 24 INTs, 6 FFs, 6 FRs)

Colts
FB Kalvin Bailey

Cowboys
RG Chris Pino (672 blocks, 121 sacks allowed, 7-time Pro Bowler)
RT Alex Barron (624 blocks, 65 sacks allowed, 2-time Pro Bowler)
RG Jeromey Clark

Dolphins
TE Chris Brown

Eagles
none

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TopicBoard 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 17: The Offseason
KCF0107
07/12/22 7:33:37 PM
#3
NFL Draft Order
1. Browns
2. Colts
3. Panthers
4. Chiefs
5. Jaguars
6. Seahawks
7. Broncos
8. Raiders
9. Giants
10. Wildcats
11. Cowboys
12. Bengals
13. Titans
14. Buccaneers
15. Eagles
16. Vikings
17. Packers
18. Jets
19. Bills
20. Falcons
21. 49ers
22. Ravens
23. Bears
24. Patriots
25. Pioneers
26. Washington
27. Steelers
28. Lions
29. Orcas
30. Dolphins
31. Express
32. Rams

Bears own Chiefs 7th
Bills own Raiders 2nd, Titans 2nd, Eagles 2nd + 7th, Bears 7th
Chiefs own Bills 2nd
Colts own Orcas 1st
Eagles own Bills 5th
Orcas own Colts 7th
Raiders own Bills 7th
Steelers own Wildcats 7th
Titans own Bills 6th
Wildcats own Steelers 2nd

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TopicBoard 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 17: The Offseason
KCF0107
07/12/22 7:28:06 PM
#2
Coaching Changes

I say this every year, but I have found no evidence that suggests that your coaching staff has any impact on your team in a pure sim like this. Any changes in the coaching strategy as a result of a new coaching staff can be negated through user intervention. That being said, I like to reveal coaching changes since I believe most of us are curious about them.

Retirements
Jaguars OC Jimmy Raye
Panthers OC Ted Cottrell

Head Coach
Bears promote DC Ron Rivera
Broncos hire Eagles HC Vinny Testaverde
Buccaneers hire Cowboys HC Derrick Brooks
Cowboys hire Wildcats HC Bill Belichick
Eagles hire Buccaneers HC Brian Billick
Giants hire Seahawks HC Mike Zimmer
Ravens hire Bears HC Corey Dillon
Seahawks hire Ravens HC Jerry Gray
Wildcats hire Broncos HC Donnie Henderson

Offensive Coordinator
Bills hire Wildcats OC Muhsin Muhammad
Colts hire Patriots OC Dennis Green
Cowboys hire Colts OC Mike Tice
Giants hire Cowboys OC Rod Smith
Jaguars hire Raiders OC Tom Clements
Patriots hire former B8NFLL OT Mike Pearson
Raiders hire former Jets OC Matt Simon
Vikings hire former B8NFLL G Eric Heitmann
Wildcats hire former Jets OC Mike Heimerdinger

Defensive Coordinator
Bears hire Washington DC Willy Robinson
Broncos hire former Broncos B8NFLL MLB Anthony Schlegel
Bengals hire former B8NFLL CB Corey Graham
Browns hire Titans DC John Fox
Buccaneers hire Jaguars DC Bryan Robinson
Eagles hire Vikings DC Mike McKenzie
Jaguars hire Jets DC Tony Dungy
Jets hire Pioneers DC Jim Nelson
Panthers hire former Lions DC Chuck Bresnahan
Pioneers hire Eagles DC Rosevelt Colvin
Washington hires Bengals DC London Fletcher
Titans hire former Browns DC Mike Trgovac
Vikings hire Broncos DC Rob Ryan

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