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Krow's 13th Lock. Hopefully not unlucky for this song.

+ Ace Combat 7: Skies Unknown | Daredevil | https://youtu.be/-kVdCaczLE8

Was planning to do my 3rd lock for the day later (for fairness), but I really want to tune out of vgmc for the day, so I'm just going to do it now.

+ Nier | The Wretched Automatons | https://youtu.be/NwlPsvXaLy8

DragonGargoyle posted...

Someone un-nommed what might be my favorite discovery
But I supported it anyway, and I'm hoping that they somehow noticed it among my text wall

You can ping them to get their attention. At symbol then their username.

Mac Arrowny posted...

it's pretty lame how people nominate a bunch of stuff, make the nomination list way longer, and then withdraw their nominations

big waste of time for people who listen to the nominations

It's also lame being told my one choice sucks 5 minutes after I nominate something.

Plus, it's not a waste of time when someone can approach the original nominator and say "hey can you re-nom this" and usually they'll consider doing so. They're effectively still in the contest.

Krow Lock #11

+ Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII | The Glittering City of Yusnaan | https://youtu.be/T8tXcnEbF-A

And I was made to immediately regret this so yeah... nomination life is not for me.

- Final Fantasy XIV: Endwalker | Footfalls | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmP-1zELQZg

How did nobody nominate this before now?? I wasn't planning to nominate anything this year, but c'mon...

+ Final Fantasy XIV: Endwalker | Footfalls | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmP-1zELQZg

Krow's 10th lock:

+ Heartland | Para Bellum | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjKjaGMc3mM

Is it one you expected?

Krow's 9th lock, and my last for today:

+ Far Fetched | Into the Woods! | https://youtu.be/6UVF-zwb8as

My 8th lock:

+ Pokemon Super Mystery Dungeon | Tree of Life: Roots | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo5IRUjNaEA

Krow's 7th lock:

+ We <3 Katamari | Blue Orb | https://youtu.be/3YnwAWbeIbY

Very hard choice between two particular songs currently at 5/X, but I think Lock #6 (my last for today) will be...

+ Einhander | Shudder | https://youtu.be/luwi50FwRlg

As promised, my fifth lock.

+ Mad Rat Dead | MAD LAST WORLD | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-hnOcxCPnY

Lock #4

+ Etrian Mystery Dungeon | Hoist the Sword With Pride in the Heart | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4S37F7YZvw

I think it should be swapped and I like the new version more, however seeing as the song locked already, it's not urgent and can probably be dealt with after noms close.

DireKrow's third lock

+ Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia | Twilight of the Gods | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3msSeE7VtM

For those not on the discord, I'll continue to lock my favourite lockable song a few times a day until the end of the lock period, so... if you want me to lock them in, consider pushing them into 4/X and 5/X territory.

DireKrow's second lock...

+ 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim | -(PHENYLALANINE)- | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6MH08gkOD0

+ Mad Rat Dead | Breath of Forest | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twEzOm2iJQo

If someone else supports Mad Last World (currently 4/3), I'll lock that too.

hylianknight3 posted...

Steve because I just dont like or respect him

This. Also looks and feels out of place.

For me...

Luxray = Ampharos > Raichu > Eelektross > A-Raichu >>> A-Golem

I voted Luxray because I'm feeling that a little more today and figured it would need more help.

Shinx >= Mareep >> Geodude >= Tynamo

Yes Tynamo.

Lapras >>> The Rest

...and that's not because I love Lapras. I mean, it's pretty great, but it's more that the rest just suck.

Honchkrow is my namesake and my #1 favourite Pokemon!

Very strong day.

Zorua > Sneasel >> Growlithe >> the rest

Surprised to see a bunch of people in here calling GAA1 "iffy". I thought GAA1 was great, and GAA2 was REALLY great.

I'd say it's less about the length and more about the difficulty. As I've gotten older, I've been less interested in hard games and more interested in easier ones, and less interested in action games and more interested in puzzle/narrative focused ones.

Yeah from my experience running quizzes on reddit and tracking stats for which ones were correctly guessed, 'cinematic orchestral soundtracks' were consistently one of the most poorly performing genres.

• They sound too similar to each other, making it very hard to guess one from the 200 other games which have music which sounds the same to non-specialists. Popular retro games, JP games, indie games, and AA western OSTs tend to have more recognizable and distinct styles that aren't just "make it sound like Hans Zimmer".
• They lack cultural penetration. The Halo theme is very famous, but compare the number of arrangements/covers you see of Undertale songs to, say, Elden Ring. Yeah Elden Ring is an immensely popular game, but popular game =/= recognizable music.
• They don't stand out, by design. Most are textural or set the mood, and deliberately avoid being catchy or attention grabbing. I think even a fan of the game would be hard-pressed to remember the songs from these games, or where they actually play, with only some exceptions.
• They tend to be slow and methodical, with long builds and releases, and are thus extremely hard to capture within a little 15 second clip. I know I scrapped several popular orchestral pieces in my quiz making days just because I couldn't find a good mini-clip to use.

Aside from that though, it also depends on the guests you have. For certain groups of people, certain songs are considerably easier or harder. Take the vgm community here for example... the Trails series is very popular here, so something like Sophisticated Fight ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um5EbReY7rA ) would be considered "easy" and almost everyone you showed it to would probably be able to at least name the series. And yet, I wouldn't be surprised if 5 of the 6 guests you've had on so far hadn't even heard of the game, let alone have any hope of guessing the song. Inversely, there is some songs in your quizzes where all three of your guests knew what it was, but I had never heard the song before =P There ARE groups out there which would know the TLOU song easily, but this group of guests happened to not be it.

Also in spite of the all that, I still regularly used that sort of music. I saw my vgm quizzes as a way to celebrate vgm and games in general, and so it was very important to me that they represented a lot of what vgm had to offer. There's people who love these games and this music, and some of the most revered games ever have music in that style, so and I wanted them to be represented as well.

In your case, even though your guests didn't know what the TLOU song was, maybe some of your ~180 viewers did, and were super glad to see it there. The Atelier song is another good example here too... I got the impression you were inwardly apologizing for it being there, because you perhaps correctly guessed that the group wouldn't have even heard of the game, let alone had any hope of guessing it... but hey, I knew the series and got it half correct, and I was super happy that someone actually nominated a Gust song <3

The trick is to build an intuition for what songs and parts of songs are most recognizable. The fact you used The Last of Us's main theme was definitely an example of what I'm talking about, though perhaps not quite enough in this case.

If you really want at least one of your guests to know every song, then I'd say to tailor your picks for the background of your guests, though I don't know if you know who you'll have on until right before the game, so I imagine that might make things difficult.

Ultimately though it's your show and you should run it how you want and make the selections you want to make. I think you'd lose something if you excluded an entire genre of music and game, but... yeah.

Treecko > Snivy > Rowlet >> Sprigatito > Chespin > Grookey > Bulbasaur > Turtwig > Chikorita

Disappointed to see Treecko floundering in votes...

wg64Z posted...

For those that watched the first one as well, did you find this one easier, harder, or on par with the original? I feel like I need to soften it up even more. And maybe trim the rounds down a bit to fewer guesses per round.

About the same, I'd say.

wg64Z posted...

I'll say any time I put in music from a Western developed game (Last of Us, Starcraft, Batman Arkham etc.) I always get crickets. I think I'll be avoiding those in the future.

I have a looooooooooot I want to say about this, but don't have the time atm. I'll just say quickly now I disagree that you should avoid "western games". Shovel Knight, Portal, Killer Instinct, Undertale, etc are all western games, and people got those just fine. Might come back to this.

These are a real good time. Here's my notes: https://pastebin.com/YCbq7Fjf

Final score was 65.5 - Got nothing on Isquen here

Goma > Agu > Biyo > Gabu > Tento > Gato > Pal > Pata

mnkboy907 posted...

I've always thought that about Maractus.

And I've always thought that about Chandelure.

Bladewolf

It varies, but I'd say on average I have one glass of soda every 2-3 days. I mostly drink water.

I'd say... steel > ice > drago > gigas > rock > eleki

Pokemon Mystery Dungeon series is one of my favourite series, and the gameplay is definitely not the reason why.

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup, perhaps?

Lugia was once my favourite Pokemon. It's still my favourite legendary, and #6 on the overall project ranking so far. Love it.

Three threads combined:

Roserade > Tsareena > Nuzleaf > Roselia > Steenee > Bellsprout > Shiftry > Bellossom > Victreebel > Jumpluff > Hoppip > Skiploom > Bounsweet > Seedot > Vileplume > Oddish > Gloom > Weepinbell

Weak batch, though. Roserade is only 174th atm on my overall.

If I could vote "None", I would. Voted Hoppip.

All three threads combined...

Aggron > Copperajah > Aron > Honedge > Lairon > Cufant > Aegislash > Bronzong > Bronzor > Meltan > Magnemite > Magneton > Magnezone > Melmetal > Doublade > Steelix > Klinklang > Klang > Klink > Galarian Meowth > Perrserker

Yes

Both threads...

Buizel > Floatzel > Golduck > Quagsire >> Slowking > Slowbro > Araquanid >> Dewgong > Simipour > Panpour > Drednaw > Seel > Wooper > Slowpoke > Psyduck > Chewtle > Dewpider

Buizel and Floatzel are my #2 and #9 overall so far respectively. Love them!

Nihilego > Naganadel >> Xurkitree > Celesteela > Pheromosa > Kartana > Blacephalon > Buzzwole > Stakataka > Guzzlord

Both threads combined:

Weavile > Sneasel > Zoroark > Houndoom > Mightyena > Thievul > Poochyena > Nickit > Houndour > Zorua > Scrafty > Bisharp > Liepard > Purrloin > Scraggy > Pawniard > Alolan Rattata >> Alolan Raticate > Alolan Meowth > Alolan Persian

Weavile is my 4th fav pokemon to appear in the project so far

Both threads combined...

Lopunny > Lickitung > Dubwool > Lickilicky > Wooloo > Type: Null > Ursaring > Persian > Glameow > Minccino > Cinccino > Delcatty > Skitty > Buneary > Teddiursa > Purugly > Meowth > Snorlax > Aipom > Ambipom

No shame in my favourite of these.

Togetic > Floette > Clefairy >> Jigglypuff

Swirlix > Spritzee > Milcery > Flabebe > Snubble

Weak group.