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PunishedBen posted...

That is siding with Han though. Han even wanted to leave a vote on Ctes last night

This is also deliberately lying.

Haha, ninja'd

W/e Ben

Like, your thesis is "Chris, Lea, and Han all did very poorly".

I'll keep that in mind anytime you get Scum lynched from now on. Ben is just playing Scum poorly

PunishedBen posted...

Which town clear of mine is wrong?

Your lack of clearing me, tbh.

Ben, you haven't played in a way that has Toen equity. You haven't approached either day without a plan in mind - it's not solving, it's just painting a picture.

If you are Town at this point, I'll be flabbergasted. Especially because your Town clearing is just... Wrong.

ctesjbuvf posted...

It's twisted as f*** though given all the uncertainties in whether or not Ulti was BP. If I had used it on N3 I wouldn't have prevented the kill despite how it looks like it. And it's one use with little chance of hitting but greater chance of hitting later.

I suppose there's also an argument that, if you're Town, it would be protecting yourself. If we believe JC is Town and that Doctor would protect him, you become a likely kill target, no?

ctesjbuvf posted...

Cmon now Han

Hey, it's a very valid point against you.
Town protection doesn't protect other Town protection.

PunishedBen posted...

I mean, I remembered it. :P Thats why I went and found it

Nobody believes this

PunishedBen posted...

If Ctes flips scum, lynch me

And yes dont forget Ctes' roleblock. You'd be a fool or scum to pick him today

What Roleblock?

The one he didn't use to protect a Doctor he thought wasn't bulletproof... Twice?

PunishedBen posted...

Han this probably isnt helpful but I actually did timestamp Ben while we were waiting for him and he hadnt been online since a few minutes before my claim.

But also the timestamp was 3 minutes before his last post so uh I think thats just yet another reason to completely discount time stamps

You think I remember the content of a single post from last game that I was very clearly disregarding because it was talking about the wrong thing?

PunishedBen posted...

I quoted JC or someone's comment that you replied to from last game. A comment saying that it never showed me online when I made a post 3 minutes ago. Not inventing that.

Whatever you said about second-hand tips is literally fiction you are putting together.

ctesjbuvf posted...

How do both of you clear Sultan that hard again

There's been multitudes of things pushing me that direction, but right now it's that I disagree with Lea that it's Scum/Scum.

And Ben ain't Town.

PunishedBen posted...

But you at least knew from second hand tips last game that they're unreliable?

This is literally something you're inventing to try to make me look bad.

PunishedBen posted...

Just give me a scum team man

Ben/Ctes
Ben/Ctes/Dumey
Ben/Ctes/Lea
Ben/Dumey
Ben/Lea

I suppose Ben/Ctes/JC is also on the table.

I don't believe JC can be Scum while Ctes is Town, so that's removed.

Anyway, 6 teams, you're welcome.

PunishedBen posted...

Hey Lea, what about that thing Han did last night where he says he was looking at time stamps? Han said last game he thinks it should be banned because it's outside the game. You really think he was using them or was that just a cover?

Are you trying to use a fact that I willingly volunteered this game as some sort of "aha gotcha"?

Yes, if timestamps were banned, they should be.
Doesn't mean I won't use the tools available that aren't banned. Especially since I was bored af and wanted to figure something out.

ctesjbuvf posted...

I don't quite think Sultan and Ben, nor Sultan and BCT when he was here read like scum/scum. I'd be quite impresed.

I agree. I'm not inclined to think Sultan is Scum.

PunishedBen posted...

I mean, now that Han thinks Sultan and Ctes are town I would like his help figuring out an updated scum team. Even if i have to be on it.

Again, you have changed the meaning of logic to fit a narrative you are pushing.

Black Canary

Same.

Varra is a menace

Naomi scored really high. I liked her and thought she'd make it, but I didn't expect her to rank this high!

I think Indy is very possible and 4 scum is right out

3 of those 4 I mean

EDumey posted...

I feel like this "proof" assumes that Ctes is town. After mislynching Sheep on an idea of him making a perspective error like this, would Han be more careful about something like this?

Dumey, for it to be a combo of those 3, Ctes would have to be Town.

I don't know if Drunk has been used for sure before, but I'd be willing to bet it has.

And for all of your whinging Ben, I DID prove that Scum isn't some combo of you, me, Lea, JC.

"Why would Han do this" there you go

It's disingenuous of you to say "it's either Ctes/JC/Ben or Dumey/Han/Lea" and act like that's granted fact.

And it's manipulative of you to appeal to Sultan with that sort of disingenuous information.

But what if Dumey is Scum?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/0/5/AAOJ0pAAEStV.png

Zoe

oh wait!

Trish

I COULD HAVE GUESSED EXACTLY THE PLACE TRISH WOULD LAND

And this is going to be Naomi Singh, which means Ermine's punching high

WOW Saoirse was nice to Bizarro, thank you

PunishedBen posted...

just in case I'm wrong

This mindset makes zero sense with how you've been playing or how you've been thinking, though.

You haven't changed your mind since your first post of the game.

I could maybe believe you were Town had you shown actual development through the course of the days but you haven't - you started where you are right now.

It's an easy read - Chris told you that me not hopping on him right away made me easy pickings and that you focusing on that was how you would build Town equity - after all, all you're doing is exactly what Chris did Day 1. And he knows, from the way I've been reacting, that I can be pushed into an upset place which does make me easier to lynch.

HOWEVER you went too far and my rage has subsided. I just don't have energy anymore... it's mostly all turned to sass back at you.

PunishedBen posted...

Well your vote sure came off of Lea fast to get back onto Ctes for reasons I've yet to hear an explanation for.

This is explicitly false.

You sure made deals with "your biggest and only Scum read" that he would see you as town

I wanted to see what you would do.
Interesting was that you were more interested in protecting Ctes than you were supposedly lynching Scum.

PunishedBen posted...

If ctes is a scum buddy of mine I don't freak out like that over one vote on him

It is if you see me vote him and you know Dumey and Lea are Neighbors and at least Dumey is willing to vote Ctes.

Really, if anything, you should be begging Lea not to vote there.

Oh, and btw, Lea and Dumey aren't Scum together - if Dumey isn't really a Neighborizer, then him dying implicates Lea immediately.

PunishedBen posted...

Not saying he's scum, but..... the possibility is there. We have not proven 2 scum left or that Sultan is scum or anything on that list

We all saw Han pretty desperate to vote Ctes before bed for no reason

Note Sultan - the use of strong language such as this to misconstrue my actions last night to make me seem Scummy when I wasn't.

By the way, if you think I'm Scum, you have to think I'm Scum with Ben. Since it's the same argument as with Chris, jsyk

or perhaps THIS is Churljenkins

Menagerie is likely a Throneworld person, so I'd guess Bizarro, but maybe it's a different menagerie... ?

I can also see now that timestamps do not line up very well.

Why does Red check these every game?

You know, day 1 being voted by Chris for dumb reasons and by Chris of everybody... that was no fun.
You replacing in and just taking Chris's spear for him without pause... unfun.

This last 15 minutes has been fun. So thank you for that.

PunishedBen posted...

If you are town, and Ctes is town, and Sultan is scum, then its actually you who we need to unvote right now.

So yes if you unvote then we can kill Lea or Dumey tomorrow

Oh, is that it? Is that the deal?

Yawn, sure am tired. Been a long day

Deal is now, take it or leave it

PunishedBen posted...

I'm here

A truce.

I'm not Scum. D1 is awash with evidence towards that. But even if I were, there would be at least one other.

Make them your target. Or if two more Scum left, make them your target.

And my vote... Disappears

Hmm let's make a deal Ben.

PunishedBen posted...

Han can you at least head to bed without a vote on Ctes?

Please? I mean I know I;m talking to scum here. But really

Oh, I was planning on it.

PunishedBen posted...

Why does he have no fear if he supposedly is this lost on who scum team is?

Because I'm tired, Ben. You've put me on my back foot and I've expended most of my energy remaining for this game in refuting your incorrect accusations.

Chaeix posted...

hey han

how does dumeys neighborizer claim fit into the scumteam meta if ctes is scum

Man here I was about to head to bed.

Uhhhh let's see...

Ctes may or may not have an EK, probably has a bus driver there, and the RB may or may not be true but let's say it is. That gives Scum limited CC, and an EK, which balances out by making you have to not do CC do get EK off.

Additionally you need a role scanner and an unblockable kill.

So neighborizer would have to be a second Jack.

PunishedBen posted...

Then what were you hoping to accomplish by voting Ctes and later unvoting?

In truth? I don't have answers so I was utilizing whatever else it as my disposal.

Here you go Ben, I'll prove that Scum is not 3 of me, Sultan, JC, and Lea

##Unvote:
##Vote: Ctes