Lurker > red13n

and i dont necessarily mean similar time frame, but the last time you were here, which considering how close sbell was to lynch I'd say is crunch time.

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I didn't say anything about you response to the sbell claim. I was pointing out what you did at the end of the day, much closer to crunch time.

and good fucking god crescent if you move on to a "red didnt remember exact details hes scum" line of thinking you could go I will fucking burn you in post game chat. Thats the most NAI thing I've done today.

Anyway, to reiterate, end of day 2:

Lea-You should all lynch corrik
Red-This claim from sbell smells

that was is intended to be an -as-

wallmasterz posted...

How does being the second person to vote him on t1p1 amount to putting him under intense pressure? You had no way of knowing it would go that far.

I didn't say intense pressure. I say he fucking cracks at even a little bit of pressure. You are mangling my words with the words of others fucking stop.

I don't draw -any- attention to sbell was his scummate. I fucking leave him the fuck alone cause thats his comfort zone.

Anyway, excuse me for misremembering crescent. It wasn't specifically a vote. But Lea was parading that cop scan around to try to save sbell after the votes but much closer to the deadline.

My vote was something like 6 hours before deadline whereas Lea was parading around trying to lynch corrik around the last 2 hours, when sbell was much much more clearly in the dumpster.

you can pull up any F3 with me as town and this is pretty much what you are going to get.

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Hi I'm red do you not know me?

This is how i've worked since, forever.

give me a sec to pull up these posts crescent.

i'm actually stepping away while making this post, before it actually posts so that i dont see new messages.

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Oh please don't tell people what you would or wouldn't do while drunk.

Crescent-Moon posted...

And.. You look better for immediately jumping onto Corrik with her with nondescript reasoning?

I don't ahve this up, but i'm fairly certain Lea doing this was way deeper in the day than when I voted corrik. Sbell was firmly the leading lynch candidate by that point.

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Again, I don't give him any attention at all. Hell, as people pointed out, he got to -1 off of that. I don't fucking put him close to that position if I'm scum.

Crescent-Moon posted...

I still want an explanation for this because I see zero obvious evidence of this happening.

I mistyped in a rush. It was vote corrik under guise of "hes trying to lynch my inno scan"

wallmasterz posted...

You voted sbell in the first ~25 posts of the day. You were the second vote.

ugh fuck it i didnt leave fast enough.

I've been over this one too.

sbell is one of the fucking easiest eggs in the game to crack. If you put him under pressure as scum he slices away like fucking butter. If I'm scum I don't give him any fucking attention at all. I want him left the fuck alone in his comfort zone.

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I'm not gone yet. I was very clear that I was devils advocating. My stance was clear and the only reason I didn't vote wallz was because I wanted to take as much of that day as I could to set opinions. Anyway, now going to eat dinner.

Also I will say something nice, Lea you played a good game in terrible fucking circumstances good job.

red13n posted...

I voted sbell and then ulti made it a vote between 2 people. Then day ended while I was sleeping

This day 1 argument against me has been trash this whole game. Willful fucking ignorance.

Anyway, I've had to fight this all game and I'm sick of this argument in particular. Wall, this is why no one would ever list you high on a player tier list.

Now I'm getting too emotional and pulling up bitter emotions from a couple games ago that had me crying but are really just making me angry right now(Hence, I sat out a game).

So I'm going to go eat dinner to calm down. Crescent be fucking smarter than this shit.

wallmasterz posted...

Lea voted Kirby d1, Corrik d2, no one d3, Isquen d4, me d5. The difference is red didnt vote d1 and Lea voted Kirby, Lea voted no one d3 and red voted Corrik.

I voted sbell and then ulti made it a vote between 2 people. Then day ended while I was sleeping

This day 1 argument against me has been trash this whole game. Willful fucking ignorance.

I was 2000 miles away from home, barely able to play, but I still fucking hammered that game over because I get invested as fuck. It isn't hard to F5 and have a vote ready, even on phone.

And right now I am not fucking on phone. I've been home all day. And there isn't even a twitter to distract me because its dead.

I've fucking hammered games over while at Disney World. Thats how the whole fucking Disney meme started.

And I don't like going here, but wallz is inexperienced as shit. He hasn't dealt with me much. Especially not in a situation like this. His word should be taken with a grain of salt over the obvious.

Crescent, seriously. You've played this game enough. You know I smell fucking blood in the water as scum. So don't fucking blow this. You should know damn well how much I care about this game when things are at actual crunch time. If I were scum, you know 100% i'm sitting their F5, a vote for each of you setup in a tab on my second monitor, and if someone votes I burn you to fucking hell.

Crescent-Moon posted...

By the way Wall, outside of insta-lynching Kirby day 1 (And the last time I saw Lea as scum in ST, she bussed Chris into the ground on day 1)... Is Lea's voting history really that much better than Red's?

You've run multiple lists of Red's votes. Run one of hers, I want to see what you find outside of Kirby.

I know I went over it before. But Lea has the single worst vote of anyone here. Literally trying to save sbell and kill ulti with sbell on the ropes.

Its a "you have to guess this person's alignment". Thats literally what mafia is. It isn't like its some role trap. Scum neighbourizer has been a role here for awhile.

wallmasterz posted...

Leas role is also a trap for town.

Thats not a fucking trap. IGCD misplayed it.

Also Wallz I hammer the fuck out of Crescent if I'm scum. Everyone knows this. I already went over this with crescent. I am fucking ravenous as scum when I smell blood. I don't pay attention to shit else in the world, especially on a saturday when I really have shit thats important to do.

You have obvious shit staring in front of you and you are wasting your time overbuilding a narrative that is just plain wrong.

Also my mouse keeps double clicking when I single click so excuse the double quotes.

Crescent-Moon posted...

Scum's actions night 1 are... Interesting. Specifically, they roleblocked Corrik.

Why did scum roleblock Corrik, of all people? I get watcherfear on the doctor - But on the cop, too? I brought this up yesterday, but IGCD was the perfect target for Lea's role if she's scum.

It led me to posit yesterday that she could kill IGCD any time she wanted, and could've done it night 1 if she found out he was targeting scum.

The person who almost died before the gladiate was SBell. SBell didn't do jack during the gladiate. It feels like scum should've been pretty worried IGCD is going to scan him.

Crescent-Moon posted...

Scum's actions night 1 are... Interesting. Specifically, they roleblocked Corrik.

Why did scum roleblock Corrik, of all people? I get watcherfear on the doctor - But on the cop, too? I brought this up yesterday, but IGCD was the perfect target for Lea's role if she's scum.

It led me to posit yesterday that she could kill IGCD any time she wanted, and could've done it night 1 if she found out he was targeting scum.

The person who almost died before the gladiate was SBell. SBell didn't do jack during the gladiate. It feels like scum should've been pretty worried IGCD is going to scan him.

Seriously, theres only 1 explanation for leaving the cop "alone". And then knowing later that Lea was bullshitting mason claims. Its because they were the mason.

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He had the fucking scan and knew I tipped him on my flavor.

wallmasterz posted...

Yeah. But I think you just have to get rid of your biggest opponent there and worry about that later, if it comes up. Take it one day at a time. Assuming Im right red, Ill give you credit for making it a hell of a lot farther than you mightve considering your two scummates were lynched d1 and d2. Its hilarious we were 10 seconds away from the game ending d3 as a sweep.

You aren't right, wallz. Surprise, town can be fucking wrong. Which you seem to not get. You need to look at scum motivations, not look at "oh town was wrong they must be scum". Look at why people do shit all game. And for the love of everything stop looking at ulti of all people. He isn't fucking informed on my alignment any better than anyone else.

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Peaf had the fucking scan. I literally dropped "unfortunately" part of the prompt he was given and told him exactly what was after it.

And again, why didn't they double kill the cop way earlier? The answer is their extra kill was attached to the mason ability.

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It isn't about that night though, they'd had a shot at the cop on n1. doc was claimed.

wallmasterz posted...

Isquen was host confirmed town. Ulti, Reds biggest critic, was killed instead.

Okay this is bad circular logic. Because as scum you know you have to take this to F3. If I killed Ulti I would know "Ulti is red's biggest critic" is going to get brought up to hell and back the whole game.

(Or the murdering was required by your role, honestly, that might be a more reasonably explanation)

And lets be honest, we know how b8 works. You are probably "godfather loaded shit role". Cop has no use except confirming OTHER people, which if you had IGCD's trust, you probably didnt want him to do, hence murdering him.

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So why wasn't he killed immediately. Or why weren't you killed since you supposedly outed yourself as mason.

Hell they could have killed both of you at once because they would assume IGCD still gets a scan off that you could send to us(Becuase I did in fact tell sultan this last time, and he said sorry it was his mistake).

Crescent-Moon posted...

Oh please it's as not in my nature as obliterating my only scumbuddy replacing into the game would've been. I was planning to roll over and die to Isquen immediately today just to save the game the trouble.

Oh no that was mostly in jest. I was like 99% sure you were town at that point.

Scum could have roleblocked him. Instead, hes counterclaiming and is somehow untouched except by a supposed mason recruiter?

it doesn't make logical sense.

Crescent-Moon posted...

As someone who's still never fully read day 1, IGCD was super obviously counterclaiming without actually counterclaiming.

Yes, but it wasn't just that IGCD wasn't killed. IGCD was masoned and then killed on a weird day. Scum had to have some motivation to keep him alive, and its probably due to the scum role(My guess is it took time to execute him).

For the love of everything wallz you are wrong as fuck stop.

I could do the same line by line argument for any player in the game if I really wanted to convince myself they were scum.

You are ignroing the basic shit on the board of a) my motivation, and b) Resolving how Lea fits in with the night kills and roles. Which dont have a reasonable explanation at all.

Anyway, unless you are long conning this I know you are town Crescent. So no pressure or anything.

Crescent-Moon posted...

What boxes are these

I don't mean to criticize here. But you said a lot of things that were great plays if you were scum yesterday. I pointed them out. You kept that up a bit here today, entertaining both lynches. I don't quite like entertaining both lynches in F3, especially when it felt like you and Lea were jumping on each other. And Lea left you up on the board for awhile(1 minute is LONG in F3).

Crescent-Moon posted...

It's basically lynch the scummier play or lynch the scummier claim.

Lea had the scummiest play as all. Sbell was on the ropes and ran in shouting "Lynch ULTI I HAVE INNOCENT SCAN"

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I didn't vote carelessly. I had a general idea of where I was voting. We took 48 hours yesterday. I don't need to take that much time today. The only boxes crescent was checking in my mind you checked today. I trust myself.

Crescent-Moon posted...

You mean why IGCD got shot right.

That's where a significant amount of the argument hinges, yes. Why was he shot over her?

yeah, sorry. Honestly those two ring off similar bells in my head I don't know how I havent crossed them up yet this game.

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Countervote and lets go.
Crescent-Moon posted...

Well ok then, I guess I'm confirmed town.

Or patient scum, have at it.

##vote: Lea

Fine, Crescent can have a win if Crescent is scum. Both of you showed up here trying to play both sides which honestly I wasn't quite prepared for.

But Lea doesn't have a great explanation for why sbell got shot and not her. It is the obvious answer in the setup.

I don't think you understand how hard I'd have been F5'ing this topic if I were scum in this F3.