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WingsOfGood posted...

always get a weird vibe from Dr;K

his advice seems ok I suppose but I can't put my finger on it

of course it is him soft "counseling" people like XQC when I see him so it is weird content to begin with

Well,he tries to reach out to the people who we often label as "unhelp-able".
I mean there is a point, if we see anyone label as red-pill we throw them away. I mean it is easier to do but they are humans.

LiberalAgenda8 posted...

There are multiple websites and apps to find women besides POF. And it's extremely easy to block/phase out any bot accounts

Name some

LiberalAgenda8 posted...

This doesn't work either. Because

A. There's no telling any type of relationship would be formed. In the real world, most people don't care about you. They care about their own personal lives or frienships formed

B. In the real world, people are not so keen to allow some stranger in a group

C. Joining a group for a common interest does not guarantee a date.

If I'm actively looking to date or get laid or to have a relationship: A meet up group is not ideal. A meetup group is specifically for said interests or possibly networking.

Why would any person waste potentially months to form a relationship with someone in a group to "build" rapport, when said person can go on tinder or any serious dating website(that allows you to message women) and meet someone?

Then I will give Romania a chance on POF, she has been dying to get my bank account number.

EthanSilver posted...

Sad if those are indeed that statistics... I mean think about it, how hard it can be to find someone of similar interests and what have you... and how such an app could potentially make it better.

Hmm.

Maybe join a group that isn't about dating but a common interest.

LiberalAgenda8 posted...

The idea that you should avoid "Dating apps" is objectively bad advice because dating apps are one of the more viable ways to meet people. Meeting in "clubs" doesn't work because in the real world, people are consumed with their job and personal life. Approaching random people is also flawed, due to the fact that they dont know you and weren't prepared with the idea of a date in the first place

Then you go to meet ups, conventions, or sometimes work.

Approach is something you be mindful of. But dating app will be a statistic failure.

pogo_rabid posted...

Thankfully the redpill has been dying the past half year or so. Really the only big redpill podcasts left are Fresh and Fit, and Whatever podcast. The former, just got demonetized bigtime and only can make money on Rumble now.

They are going downhill as well. But the thing is when one goes down, another comes up.

ai123 posted...

No one needs manosphere misogynists and pick-me grifters to tell you it's a good idea to be in shape and look after yourself.

And yet I still see people give them credit (sometimes begrudgingly) for this obvious piece of advice.

Here's another obvious statement: most women aren't interested in men who have been redpilled.

Well the thing is that the video explains how the red pill get these men. You can say that the red pill is stupid of course. But they doesn't solve the problem.

If you can have a group that validate men's emotion and don't dismiss them, then we can move forward.

EthanSilver posted...

Again, for starters, "you're a legit terrible person..." is a rhetoric you should stop.

True, we should stop saying you're bad for wanting to improve yourself but how do you get them to go to the right content?

Jiek_Fafn posted...

This is more of what I was getting at. Like how do we prevent more Andrew Tates

What's so hard about it, is that he has a easy marketing tactic.

1. Get bitches
2. You're the top dog
3. Treat her like shit because you van be top dog.

But the ones who really guide you to a healthy mindset, are not really making commercialization type of content.

Beveren_Rabbit posted...

If a young man wants to work out he is seen as a tool that only cares about getting sex or attention.
If a young man seeks therapy he is perceived as weak.
If a young man wants to work on himself before getting back into dating he is perceived as a misogynist.

Why can't a young man simply self-improve without the world thinking he is going to be a mass shooter or some sex driven fiend?

It is about associating yourself with certain people. If that person wants to genuinely improve, no problem. The problem is who is filling his head.

• Work out to find yourself a wife - sure
• Your wife needs to quit her 70k salary to satisfy your need to control - that's fucking stupid.

Jiek_Fafn posted...

A lot of guys could better themselves, but what do we do with the ones that are legitimately terrible?

Don't entertain them, leave them alone. Observe them but leave them alone. So they will have two choices:

1. Break down, self-reflect reflect, and realize they were the terrible ones.
2. Or do something stupid where the SWAT teams need to snipe them out.

Beveren_Rabbit posted...

it's a shame how young socially men seeking self-improvement is immediately perceived with scorn. some legit just trying to seek help. not all of them want to get better at hating women and

They are going to the wrong source. As soon as your content goes beyond self-improvement and have a dirty look at the world you cross the line. Then, it becomes a cash cow business and 99% of them are not certified therapists so their ill-equipped to handle some of their 'clients' baggage.

Inohira posted...

Problem occurs though if the alternatives are basically a clock ticking in reverse, teaching behavior that outright decreases your dating prospects.

Not just that, It could get your teeth knocked out from what I hear some of these assholes say. There was this group called the purple pill podcast that was talking about a women's weight right in front of her face ( and she was nice looking) and they just shitted on her. I was pissed, then I realized that half of their content is punching down.

EthanSilver posted...

Weird how a typo can totally change how a topic is read...

Lol, yeah. I was confused at first. I am like " No, I am not with the red pill or Jordan Peterson." Then I saw the title. I knew I fucked up smh.

Why should I restart? Why not just give me a side story?

Edit: thanks @EthanSilver and @Gladius_
He is a certified psychiatrist. His name is Dr. K. He studies why the Red Pill is engaging a lot of men. Basically, Red Pill is like the old saying, "A broken clock is right twice a day." he wants you to stop watching Red Pill content and stop using dating apps.

Here is a summary of 80% of the video.

• He stated that whenever he does group therapy, there's some trauma competition.
• So if a man tries to look for validation in his trauma, another one of his clients would say, "That's nothing. You're a man, my problem is this and that."
• Constant rejection as a man where you formulate ideas in your head.
• Like the top 10% of men gets 90% of women.
• In truth it is 10 women to 100 mean on a dating app (exaggerated but more men than women on the platform.)
• And half of the woman uses the platform to not date but to fill am emotional need.
• The Red Pill gets things right such as you need to gain confidence and set boundaries. (Broken clock is right twice a day).
• They validate your emotions and that's the hook, the engagement.
• They constantly feed you that engagement, having you hook to their content.
• The more engagement, the more cognitive bias.
• They use videos of the women with the ridiculous requirements: the top 1%(6 feet tall, 6 inch dick, 6 figure salary.) But he explains in reality most women are met dating or looking for that guy.
• But they reinforce that believe that you need to be in the top 1%
• And that's a hard goal and you will likely fail, causing further shame
• A low value man =

1. A pile of shame
2. Invalidating from the environment
3. A cognitive bias reinforce through predatory content algorithms.

• They Red Pill will shame you more to the point you will give you money to fix the problem.
• They show sexy dudes to me you feel bad.
• You think you're a low value male.
• Red Pill have a negative world view which is toxic for men.
• His solution, stop watch Red Pill content and get the hell off of dating apps.
• That's it for now you can watch the rest.

https://youtu.be/or6A1Pl04ss?si=xthFtDz5HEsTHd91

EthanSilver posted...

Oh, hard to see at first through a quick skim, the points... and your title legit says "red pill works." No, no it doesn't.

That's my fault. I will fix it.

Yawn_Master2 posted...

Who are you? Jordan Peterson? Go hawk this crap to some easily susceptible community

Did you read the post?

EthanSilver posted...

This.

Right off the bat you have a bar to pass... it's dumb.

If you're intelligent, you know you can rephrase things to get a similar message across without all the negative connotations.

Lame topic imo.

But that's what he the guy says. He was saying stop watching red pill content. Get therapy, gain confidence, and stop using dating apps.

AldousIsDead posted...

The fuck are you on about?

It is in the post.
I was making a summary of the video.

He is a certified psychiatrist. His name is Dr. K. He study why Red Pill works. Basically Red Pill is like the old saying, " a broken clock is right twice a day." Here is a summary of 80% of the video.

• He stated that whenever he does group therapy, there's some trauma competition.
• So if a man tries to look for validation in his trauma, another one of his client would say, "That's nothing. You're a man, my problem is this and that."
• Constant rejection as a man where you formulate ideas in your head.
• Like the top 10% of men gets 90% of women.
• In truth it is 10 women to 100 mean on a dating app (exaggerated but more men than women on the platform.)
• And half of the woman uses the platform to not date but to fill am emotional need.
• The Red Pill gets things right such as you need to gain confidence and set boundaries. (Broken clock is right twice a day).
• They validate your emotions and that's the hook, the engagement.
• They constantly feed you that engagement, having you hook to their content.
• The more engagement, the more cognitive bias.
• They use videos of the women with the ridiculous requirements: the top 1%(6 feet tall, 6 inch dick, 6 figure salary.) But he explains in reality most women are met dating or looking for that guy.
• But they reinforce that believe that you need to be in the top 1%
• And that's a hard goal and you will likely fail, causing further shame
• A low value man =

1. A pile of shame
2. Invalidating from the environment
3. A cognitive bias reinforce through predatory content algorithms.

• They Red Pill will shame you more to the point you will give you money to fix the problem.
• They show sexy dudes to me you feel bad.
• You think you're a low value male.
• Red Pill have a negative world view which is toxic for men.
• His solution, stop watch Red Pill content and get the hell off of dating apps.
• That's it for now you can watch the rest.

https://youtu.be/or6A1Pl04ss?si=xthFtDz5HEsTHd91

dave_is_slick posted...

Lost two cats to it, both very young. One was only 1 1/2 and the other wasn't even a year.

That's real?!?!?!

andel posted...

multi game spanning world building

You had my curiosity now you piqued my interest.

I like the tales series it just right now I need a break from it.
But I keep hearing about trails.

JuanCarlos1 posted...

Never finished CT. Hated the time travel aspect.

That said, people did like what was done here so I dont understand why squaresoft and other companies changed the formula for their jrpg games TOO MUCH. You already have a BLUEPRINT on how to make good games, but you go and add the junction system or make it a card battler or completely remove party members and exploration.

We need to talk about that. Because when you mention formula. You make me want to talk about paper mario. I feel like it deserves its own topic.

Guide posted...

Chrono Trigger was alright, but I think the lifelong hype surrounding it made my disappointment inevitable. I kept playing, got all the endings, all gear, maxed cap levels just to see if there was some part where it gets really good. But no.

AT art is slammin' tho

What were you expecting?
Rai_Jin posted...

FFIX and even VIII.

I still need to get 8

ironman2009 posted...

We have multiple times

I demand titles

Nota214 posted...

See, you're wrong because ALttP is the best Zelda game. Not only did it define the design used for all the future Zelda games, it also has the best romhacks. In fact, one of those romhacks was so good that Nintendo decided to release their own romhack and call it a sequel on the 3DS. This is why it's the GOAT. To argue otherwise would just be due to your nostalgia blinding you to reality.

Lol, pal, ALTTP IS my nostalgia. The first time I seen a zelda game my oldest brother borrowed the game from a friend until my middle brother's birthday were we got our own copy. I remember link walking out of the storm and you have to go to hyrule castle.

But, the zelda series stayed on a good or decent quality there isn't a big gap like the Sonic series had or others like FF.

Ricemills posted...

People who actually played CT would know that CC has a story. The deeper parts is buried under the connection to CT.

Sometimes i feel that people bashed CC because it's the cool thing to do, and they never actually played both games. So did theu overhyped CT, because that's what the cool kids do.

There is a sale going on for CC on the Switch. I might get it.

Solar_Crimson posted...

Radiant Historia

I will have to try it out.

Zonbei posted...

As someone whose favorite game is CT, there are many games that have surpassed it in many ways. The real reason none of them has surpassed it is we played it when we were younger, most of us. I think if I had played Sea of Stars when I was a kid instead, Id be just as much into that, because in many ways its the better game.

Idk, I think nostalgia does play a factor but I don't think, imo, that's the only thing.

Like mario and zelda to me both have games as good as better since alttp.
I think some 3D sonic games are more intriguing to play than the 2D

It just the time concept, the way they tug you back and forth to the past. It was an amazing game. Still is. Let's go into an alternate world where Chrono trigger is made today, let's say in DQ 11 artstyle and that would have been game of the year or a contender.

Lukey_Bug posted...

Chrono Cross is better. Fight me

Hiya!

Why?

And bro,
I been ahead of the game when it comes to POC and police interaction, I am black myself. I see things you can't and I see what my people say, that you don't.
And
There are people out there who teaches you how to interact with the police.

https://youtube.com/shorts/crhBe6_v1xc?si=OF5GmNeZ0TT37kDS

https://youtu.be/oYL08Tw3vNM?si=bchEGtTYrBh96zYs
DnDer posted...

<cop losing his goddamn mind and waving a gun around when he doesn't get instant compliance>

CHUDS: It's the civilian who's making the choice not to remain calm and professional and cool-headed in the face of imminent death. Why can't they just remain calm and comply?

So a cop is going wild what do you do? He is cussing you out, threatening you, what?

DnDer posted...

What power do you have to de-escalate when someone is pointing a gun and someone else is trying to smash your window?

Not drive forward. She gave justification for their actions when she move forward.
And here is a de-escalation skills right here:

https://youtu.be/cYwBrLc4XfI?si=LzboyBy4zIx0mUlI

The cop made threats and he recorded it. That angry cop had to de-escalate or he would have caught a murder case.

DnDer posted...

It's her fault she wasn't calm enough to avoid death. And the assumption that police are trained to de-escalate at all. They're not, and that's been proven time and again (see: the nationally-used Killology course that made big press just a year ago or less, and general police procedure/culture when dealing with POC and POC communities).

I already acknowledged. But there are thousands of video online that shows you how to deal with a cop. And it videos from POC. And to catch police abuse record record record.

Jiek_Fafn posted...

Again, no
He's aligned with the driver. He's wearing his camera on his left. You can very plainly see it when he walks by the other officer. Drivers do not sit in the center of the car. There are plenty of other context clues as well.

You do know even if you're not Center you can still get snatch by the tires right?

TMOG posted...

Just finished the last episode of the season. Pretty damn good imo, I was a little irked by some of the liberties they took at first but grew past it -- still incredibly enjoyable. Don Krieg got done very dirty though.

Well Don Krieg wasn't very important in the long run.

AngelsNAirwav3s posted...

Are the show runners gonna cut out Skypia and Thriller Bark or naw? Season 2 is Baroque Works/Alabasta, season 3 is Enes Lobby?

I think they will go up to Marine Ford.

What would be a better way to end Season 2 then Luffy at his lowest?

And everything is reactive. Like I said no one cares to learn @lolife67 you just want to be right instead of what we can takeaway from this lesson.

lolife67 posted...

Care to answer this @omniryu ?

The narrative you and plenty of people here carry that the detainees have no burden or obligation to comply and help de escalate the situation and the cops are the only one to require to do so and thus perpetuate the idea of " you don't need to comply because the cops will kill you anyway."

thronedfire2 posted...

he wasn't in any real danger though. he could easily take one step to the side.

but she was near the front of the store where people are usually crossing

You're skipping the possibility of her slamming the car he either hitting the windshield or getting dragged underneath.

And technically that was an attack.
Again, not the brightest move.

Keep in mind of his position.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/7/8/AATsAmAAEznK.jpg

She moved the car when in he was in middle

Kradek posted...

If they get away so fucking what? Go pursue them and arrest them. Stop justifying wonton executions of civilians without any sort of due process.

And risk the lives of others? You see that she had disregard for the police officer life. So what you think she will do with other people's lives?

Jiek_Fafn posted...

He's not though. It's easier to get a good look at where he's actually at from the cop at the windows camera footage. He's about aligned with the driver. You can see how much he needs to move from that vantage

And from his camera he was in the middle he slipped to his right when she move the car forward.

DarkChozoGhost posted...

Regardless of what she did,

And there we go absolving responsibility of the other party.

DarkChozoGhost posted...

He escalated the situation, which was wrong.

If you said the officer at driver side, sure but the officer in the front. Just tried to be a barrier, which yes, was a bad move. But he was hoping that common sense kicks in that she wouldn't press the pedal.

thronedfire2 posted...

I thought about it more and they would be right to worry about her possibly hitting other people if she tried to speed away

There you go!

DarkChozoGhost posted...

He is evil.

He didn't make the best choice and this is what I am talking about the false narrative of police intentionally wanting shoot any individuals.

lolife67 posted...

Oh well, if you're just concern trolling then please carry on. That's much better than just simply trolling.

Just say, you don't like being wrong instead of making shit up like "concern trolling" wtf is that anyway?

And can I say why I have these views? Because there's a harmful narrative out there. It is a rebuttal but it can be misconstrued as harmful.

I hear this several different times.

It doesn't matter if you comply or not, the police will still kill you.

People hear this and discourage them taking control of the situation and trying to reduce harm. But anyway, I am the bad guy here...

ai123 posted...

The power to de-escalate lies with the cops. They (should) have the training and the predisposition to do so. They are going to meet a lot of distressed, desperate, and mentally ill people.

Yelling 'get the fuck out of the car!' does not indicate a wish to de-escalate.

And the second half of de-escalation goes to the party being detained or question. You have to learn stress management when you're facing other humans with bullets (cops). Because having policy and training doesn't mean you have 100% safety, you don't.
If she was scared that they might abuse her record a video. If she was scared of getting a record assess the situation. She wouldn't have gotten in big trouble maybe a demeanor. Take the L and go on. Then there's the media perception of the police wants to kill you when there's nuance to the whole subject.
Believe it or not you can help a cop de- escalate a situation as well.

And if you feel like that a detainee/ civilian has no obligation or responsibility too, then just admit you don't like cops and you want it just be difficult for them.

And if it is mental illness, I agree, cops should be aware of it. Let's be real, i want that training for everyone not just cops because we got one on the Switch boards and people treat him like fucking shit and that passes me off. Sorry, I got side tracked.

What I am saying is not to blame this person or that person but how do we remedy a situation from here on out.
To be clear:

1. I do acknowledge this isn't the best call the officer who stood in the front made.
2. However, some people made it out that he forced her to make that choice making it more malicious then it really was
3. We have the power to help de-escalate a situation and not just the cops
4. And never did I say the cops need more training.
5. We just need an unbiased view.

ai123 posted...

You need to fix yourself, mate.

You're inventing absurd hyperbolic fictions to troll a messageboard with your support for a wholly unnecessary killing.

We get it. We know what you are.

I don't support killing, I support looking at both sides. What can be done to de-escalate a situation. We look at the situation at face value but we don't talk about what is really going on.

And the crazy thing is that. No one here learns a lesson. No, we never post how to interact with the police. All everyone here post is let her get away with this. Fine, but apply it to every situation. Then no one here would never ask why did she need to steal an alcohol beverage. Is it an addiction problem? Was she manipulated by someone to get it?

No, it just, "Officer you're being lame, be cool and let them go."

ai123 posted...

And failing that, self defense because she literally turn a 1-ton vehicle into a weapon.

Fixed that for you.

Error1355 posted...

'Damn, she might in the future run a red light. Better make sure we put a bullet in her now'.

Go fuck off.

Or "damn she hit a guy on a motorcycle because she was in a reckless (proven in video) state, because police is bad! ACAB."

Error1355 posted...

No use trying to have a conversation with you on this if you are going to be jumping through an absolutely bonkers hypothetical that have nothing at all with this case. The police where there under suspected shoplifting, not suspected murderer. If the police are rolling up to every situation thinking the person they are talking to is a murderer then maybe that's where our fucking problem with excessive force starts.

I am not saying she did, I am saying but your principle. You say that if the officer can't get her out the car. They should let her go.

If that's the principle you stand on then you have to apply to other situation.

So if there's a possible murderer, which would make sense if someone would try to run away and hit a cop, you say they should be let go and find them later.

My thing is that this is a two party situation. You can de escalate a situation and not just the cops. You guys can be impractical at times.