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That's why Fox took over SSBM.

Was there meant to be a question at the end of your post or are you telling me strange lies for fun?

I saw this joke a lot in Payday 3 arguments the other day.
"You can't expect a car that just released to have all the functionality of a car that's been out for a few years."

Killmonger posted...

Omori

Isn't that one of those overemotional games where you get way more people talking about their sadness than gameplay?

BlingBling22947 posted...

I might get one for Black Friday, so tag.

That's the plan.
It's 6 years after it's come out. Everyone who wanted one probably has one. Should by all means be cheap. Checked the store multiple times last week and the game prices are really alienating too but they've gotta come down eventually.

Tier list so far.

Yeah okay sure tier:
Xenoblade 1
FFXII Zodiac

I've already got that, but I liked it and I guess if the Switch version was cheap enough right? tier:
Dark Souls 1
FFX

Might be fun but also be wary of its chequered past tier:
Earthbound
Pokemon Arceus

If I can borrow it for free, I might as well tier:
Person 5
The other Xenoblade games

Progress has come to a screeching halt. The same few recommendations keep coming up. Might have to look into another game genre.

Didn't Sack say he planned to put Geno in one of the older Smash Bros games? And then that got the ball rolling? People who'd never played it decided en masse that they really wanted him in even though he sucks?

A lot of these, I don't know anyone who plays/likes them. And that makes me worry I'd play them once, maybe have some fun, but then have nothing compelling me to revisit them.

I think that's why I ended up not buying Bloodstained ROTN despite being excited about it. I knew it'd be here and gone in record time.

That was kind of my problem with Xenoblade 1. You beat it and then you just walk around listlessly, having liked so much but unable to talk about it because you can't say anything without spoiling half the game. All the so-called Xenoblade in-jokes are more about Smash Bros too, so they don't help either.
Man, it was hard work finding spaces to talk about Xenoblade 1 in other conversations.

Not crazy about any of them at this point.
I only played the PS3 version of Bayonetta 1 with the crap load times. I didn't hate it and sometimes I wonder if I'd like it a lot if I went back.

MGR would have won this a few years ago but the game's new fanbase makes the game so unfun to think about.

GiftedACIII posted...

Oh yeah, the gensokyo the gods loved is an iconic stage theme. I think it's more representative of an "early-midgame game feel" though. Cirno's theme and Shanghai Teahouse is another. I find Necrofantasia being the most emblematic of the fast-paced chaotic and high pitched final/extra boss themes. UN Owen is obviously another. Although I can understand if you may find them overrated due to just how saturated they are in the fandom lol.

I don't really mind those songs. Sometimes people tell you the themes' owners are their favorite characters and you realise they don't play the games really fast, though. U.N. Owen like it or not is the Touhou song. And Touhou achieved that by riding Ronald McDonald's coattails. I'm not crazy about Native Faith but that's a real all rounder as far as Touhou music goes too.

GiftedACIII posted...

True, but I find just Reimu and Marisa pretty boring honestly. They haven't done that since MoF actually, every game since then had some form of third or fourth character, even after the "Moriya arc" DDC and up. Sanae basically became a main recurring character though (she sat out 16 and 17)

Reimu and Marisa are blank slates for people to make things up about. I don't dislike either, but if someone asked me which I preferred, I'd immediately assume it was a gameplay question. Homing shots vs piercing lasers. There's not a whole lot there, character-wise.
Doesn't really have to be though. Something I used to enjoy in games but rarely encounter now because of diverging interests is in-jokes amplifying characters and stories. Nowadays people all go online, find out what the big accepted joke for a game is and all just repeat that. No spontaneity. Touhou used have a lot of people making dumb things up about the characters.

GiftedACIII posted...

I was about to say, I'm very surprised to hear that you fight two stage 6 bosses from previous games in the middle of the game but then I realized you were talking about HM, Hopeless Masquerade the 13.5 fighting game, not UM, Unconnected Marketeers- Touhou 18 lol.
I actually played HM fully with every character. It was a lot of fun, actually, this was when the fighting games started getting really creative. When you say you remember it does that mean you played it too?

Oh my bad, I only have the abbreviations memorised up to LoLK. I call the subsequent ones by their number.
I played 13.5 very briefly, mostly curious to see what it was like since it was so different from the grounded fighters. I never tried the follow up with more characters though. Music was good.

GiftedACIII posted...

Yeah, 13 is very slow-paced and is a bit experimental. The best and most iconic track from that game is actually the stage 4 theme, Desire Drive.
Here are two remixes I like of it.

That one definitely feels like the favorite. Puts Seiga right with Nitori and Keine in the stage theme better than boss theme club. I feel like people remember the stage 3 graveyard theme over the zombie boss' theme too.

The superboss spoiler sounds disappointing. Maybe if they go really crazy with it, it could end up being kinda cool.

I hate that all the strongest contenders are ports from previous consoles.
Except Arceus, but even that has the caveat that I'd be supporting Game Freak.

Or maybe I'm playing it way too safe. I just also hate the gambling aspect of getting into new franchises.

All the Fire Emblems and similar games keep getting lumped in.
Those look less like RPGs and more like carefully moving pieces around a grid.

Dragon Quest 11 keeps coming up too. My assumption was that those are deliberately really safe, generic fantasy stories where the chosen one gets the power sword and defeats the evil dragon or something.

Thank you, I will try quite hard to avoid these in the future.

Did Diablo 4 go full Diablo Immortal yet?

Videos of Switch RPGs keep telling me to play Shin Megami Tensei.
But I'm pretty sure that's the game where you play for 8 seconds then some Matador shows up and rolls over you.

Edit: Oh yeah I went to the store again and had a look around. Selection wasn't incredible and some of the prices were scoff-worthy. No DSR, no Final Fantasy games which is weird because I assumed they'd be easy to find.

Ugh, TC. A "WHEN (Insert anything)" post?
That's so 2015!
Get with the times!

Play until it's over, until it's no longer engaging or until I confirm I don't like it.

There's a couple of 96 track speedruns up. Over 3 hours.

I thought about it and yeah, if the person I know is willing to lend it, I could give Person 5 a try.
A video I watched made it sound like Final Fantasy 8. Collecting monsters, turning them into abilities for party members. That's good.
As for the half game half talking thing, Blazblue kind of did that with its story mode. That was okay.

Tried to watch a Dragon's Dogma video. Guy told me he liked NMH and God Hand but they sucked. Then with a straight face he tried to tell me to play Raid Shadow Legends.

I almost commented and told him what I thought of him. But that's what he wants, engagement. So instead, out of spite I deliberately looked into one of the drastically different games people keep suggesting but I'm not as naturally configured to like. Persona 5.

None of the Persona 5 characters seem cool. Can't get a read on the weird gameplay which seems to do a bunch of different things.
I don't know what I think of the whole stealth aspect but I sort of want to give it the benefit of the doubt because the player character looks pretty agile.

Being shown cutscenes is making me hesitant, the video I'm watching hasn't mentioned how fast you can power through them/skip them. Also looks like there's a real split between walking around town interacting with people and actually getting to play a video game.
Someone I know has this and really likes it though. That's an overwhelming plus because I could probably just borrow it.

Subspace Emissary made me permanently sick of hearing Stickerbrush Symphony.

Alteres posted...

Felt fine on handheld to me, seemed easy, but Id played bb, ds3, and er by then tbh.

It's an easy game but challenge is only the appeal the first time round. After that it's all running around making dumb OP builds as fast as possible. Or lv1/challenge runs with varying amounts of exploits.

I only really like DeS and DS1. Makes it hard to take the Dragon's Dogma recommendation because it's usually coming from people who like all the Fromsoft games.

Smallville posted...

at a brick and mortar store?

I don't think I'm gonna be standing out in front waiting for the place to open.
I'm hoping I can go there around the time it opens and there'll be Nintendo stuff.

No, I've never even bought anything on the day.
I'm really entertaining the idea of buying something this year though.

Raphael from Soul Calibur 2

That version because he does the "Well then, let us dance!" and the "You're. Quite. The rude one." in that game.

I guess I could put Dark Souls Remastered on there if it gets cheap enough.
I've only played the original and the prompt swap/air rolls/general QoL changes look nice.
Not sure how it'd feel on a handheld though.

Oh right. Earthbound.
(Memories resurface of Reggie Fills in 2006, saying Earthbound would be on Wii Virtual Console, name dropping it as if it'd be one of the first games on there. Weekend after weekend of me eagerly getting up to see if it'd been added yet. No sign. Consoles I'd forgotten about, games I'd never heard of, hanabi festivals. No Earthbound. The MOTHER 3 fan translation project and Earthbound being in SSBB to tide me over for a while. But still no Earthbound. After a while, apathy.)

But now Reggie Fills is gone. Maybe it's finally time.

This topic made me briefly remember how exciting it was the first time I saw Gael pull out a machine gun crossbow for some reason.

But was it difficult like they said?
I thought the hard parts were trying to pacifist that pier level.
I don't think King Dice was that hard but I like how intimidating it looks when you first play it.

Dalthine posted...

Arceus was my favorite pokemon game by far, especially with recent foibles. Just be aware that you need to go in with a collector mindset or you will get hard walled and have to grind dex progress. It didn't happen to me but I was deliberately catching tons of stuff, pursuing dex entries, and switching up my current team (apart from starter) to keep new evos rolling.

I'm aware it's an actual catch em all style game and not a battler. I'm okay with having to go slow. The patient approach is kind of what's been making these so much more enjoyable than years ago.
I can't get anyone to say much about what it's like to replay it so I'm guessing that's a weak point. It's a Pokemon game with all those different team choices though, replaying can't be too awful.

Dalthine posted...

Xenoblade games are hit or miss and play very differently. Can't for sure recommend them but it might be worth looking into.

Xenoblade 1 is one of the two locks in the OP. I've played it but I want to play it more. It was great.
It's been years, I still think about it every other day.
The others in the series, meh.

The other games, I'm gonna have to look into them. Pretty much all my RPG experience is a few Nintendo RPGs, a couple of Final Fantasies, TWEWY 1, New Vegas and Dark Souls.

Dakimakura posted...

Pokemon

I am curious about the Arceus game but hesitant to support Game Freak phoning it in.

Zikten posted...

Id say the switch has a ton of great jrpgs. A jrpg fan should own a switch and a ps5.

I don't think I've achieved (J)RPG fan status yet. I'm not a total beginner, but RPGs are a huge blind spot for me.

But I played a bunch of games this year to get a clear idea of what I like and the handheld RPGs were easily the most engaging. Makes sense to pursue that.

And is it a good console for RPGs in general?
So far I've found 2 I wouldn't mind having on a handheld.

Kaiji.
There's a bunch of anime and shows doing the whole protag gets involved in high risk games thing but Kaiji's the only one I like. Unique art style, narrator's fun even if you don't speak Japanese, villains are actual fuckers instead of generic wannabe cool guys on the opposing side. Luck weighs heavily, sometimes Kaiji wins, sometimes he really doesn't.

I'd also say Baccano and Yu Yu Hakusho but that's a whole bunch of typing.

This series had some serious power creep issues.
Because I swear half of these would get KO'd by a spinning clothes rack and then after a while you had characters who achieved invincibility just by showing up on the right day.

What sort of Dark Souls 2 videos?
Are you talking about the lore? Or challenge runs? Something else?

There's this dude I watch who did a long video on it. I just watched that.
Didn't have to play it, still got to like things about it.

Why does Persona 5 keep releasing?
What's changing each time?

So all the tracks are out now?
It's only a matter of time before the 200cc 96 track speedruns?

I watched a bit more.
It's decently funny. The visual stuff is hitting more than the quips.

But I also saw this fight against the Scottish character and I swear it was just 6 minutes of walking in a circle and copying the inputs in-between stretches of dialogue like some kind of Mario Party minigame. What was that about?

Akagami_Shanks posted...

its out in 3hrs here on steam

Topic had me confused until I saw this.
I know a guy who's head over heels for this series and I was suddenly really confused as to why he wasn't playing it.

0Renegade posted...

well the game has difficulty settings to ease you in

Well yeah, but I mean more is it actually challenging on the higher difficulties, in what ways is it challenging. Stuff like that. I'd be disappointed it most the challenge came down to luck and tedium.

I always feel like with games like this, the highest difficulty is the real game. Everything beneath is just powering your character, learning the basics and messing around.

FL81 posted...

As a dumbass child playing Pokmon Crystal, I ended up KOing the only shiny I've ever found

also on that same save file was the one time I got Pokrus, and ended up shutting off the game because I was freaked out and didn't know what it did >_>

Similar but also worse story. Two months ago I lost a shiny Rayquaza.
It was in HGSS so it kept confusing itself with Outrage and then healing with Rest.
I kept paralysing it, threw 100-150 Pokeballs at it. It eventually ran out of moves, it used Struggle. That was that.

I keep thinking to myself "What would I even do with a gen 4 shiny Rayquaza in 2023?" and while that's valid, I still think about what a tidal wave of crap luck out of nowhere it was.

CassandraCroft posted...

Chris Chibnall was the worst showrunner ever for Doctor Who and Jodie Whittaker the worst actor to ever play The Doctor.

Are these unpopular?
I see people go to bat for Jodie sometimes but I never see anyone sticking up for Chib.

I should probably also be asking how challenging it is.

I hate when these kinds of games are all flash and are just trying to trick you into thinking you're doing great because you can use lots of flashy moves against punching bags.
I typed in Hi Fi Rush combo mad and I'm seeing some stuff that looks like that.

Did it turn into Storefield yet?

0Renegade posted...

Rhythm affects all aspects of the game and while you can play off rhythm, you are rewarded more with either more damage or faster animation recovery on moves, (i actually forgot but things are better on rhythm than not)

I just don't wanna game where I'm too heavily discouraged from messing around and trying dumb things.
Like what if my attack's on rhythm, but it misses? Do I get fast recovery, punished heavily for missing or something in between?

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