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TopicOctober Game of the Month Club ft. Gurumin, 999, and Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts
KCF0107
10/29/18 8:08:42 PM
#85
Yeah, Gurumin isn't for me
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TopicSign-ups for B8's Best Project [sports]
KCF0107
10/29/18 4:45:19 PM
#82
Supplemental sign-up topic made. Let's see if anything comes of it
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicLast chance to sign up for an ongoing NFL Madden sim league
KCF0107
10/29/18 4:44:27 PM
#3
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10gIP0JkVqOaoUc4aQX_NyDM8dB31FOPm_dUx6DVTWPk/edit?usp=sharing

If perhaps you wish to join a team based on the players, then you can look through the spreadsheet there as all teams have their rosters laid out. Unfortunately, we haven't reached the point of player retirements, so you can ask me if X player is likely to retire this offseason, and I will give my best guess.

As for a quick word on the open teams, if you wish to be handed a SB-caliber team right off the bat, then here are a few teams that you might be interested in:
- Broncos
- Jets
- Rams

If you want a team that is typically reliable but hasn't turned the corner yet to be SB contenders:
- Falcons
- Vikings

If you want a team that could use a little work but is certainly trending in the right direction:
- Lightning
- Redskins

If you want defensive stalwarts that have some work to do:
- Colts
- Hawks
- Raiders
- Ravens

If you want a team that is great on paper but perennially underachieves:
- Pioneers
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicLast chance to sign up for an ongoing NFL Madden sim league
KCF0107
10/29/18 4:37:10 PM
#2
Here are all the teams in the league. You will notice that some have relocated and have new names as a result. I have included former names that they have gone by. All bolded teams are not available to you as incumbents have elected to return to them. The one italicized team is currently occupied by a user who has yet to tell me of their plans for next season. The rest are free for the taking.

Denver Broncos
Kansas City Chiefs Ranlom
Oakland Raiders
Washington Hawks (formerly San Diego Chargers)

Buffalo Bills stevr
Miami Dolphins KCF
New England Patriots (formerly Birmingham Cougars and yes, New England Patriots) Jukkie

New York Jets

Baltimore Ravens
Cincinnati Bengals - Smitty
Mexico City (formerly Cleveland) Browns VI
Pittsburgh Steelers Shattered


Columbus Pioneers (formerly Houston Texans)
Indianapolis Colts
Jacksonville Jaguars Sultan
Tennessee Titans Stan


San Francisco 49ers Scare
Seattle Seahawks - ??? (Tony?)

St. Louis Rams
Toronto Wildcats (formerly Arizona Cardinals) prof

Dallas Cowboys Wiz
New York Giants Eddv
Las Vegas Pumpkins (formerly Philadelphia Eagles) Shonen

Washington Redskins

Detroit Lions Nee
Green Bay Packers Tangicide

Minnesota Vikings
Los Angeles (formerly Richmond and Chicago) Bears cheyne

Anaheim Lightning (formerly New Orleans Saints)
Atlanta Falcons
Carolina Panthers Emerald
Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Chris

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicLast chance to sign up for an ongoing NFL Madden sim league
KCF0107
10/29/18 4:36:57 PM
#1
Signups end is less than 72 hours for those wishing to join Board 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) as we enter our 11th season.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/77013525

You can find detailed info in the link above, but what we do each season can basically be boiled down to assembling a team during the offseason while praying that things work well during the regular season and postseasons with the ability to make adjustments along the way.

You can be as active or inactive as you want. There's been plenty of success stories from all types. I also give everyone plenty of time to complete any tasks that they are responsible for. I have some very favorable rules in place to protect teams if you idle, and you are more than welcome to ask for my aid/advice or for me to temporarily take control of your team if something comes up in your life.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicB8 NFL Suicide League: Week 9
KCF0107
10/29/18 1:53:06 PM
#2
11/1
Raiders at 49ers

11/4
Bears at Bills
Buccaneers at Panthers
Chiefs at Browns
Jets at Dolphins
Steelers at Ravens
Lions at Vikings
Falcons at Redskins
Texans at Broncos
Chargers at Seahawks
Rams at Saints
Packers at Patriots

11/5
Titans at Cowboys
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicB8 NFL Suicide League: Week 9
KCF0107
10/29/18 1:51:24 PM
#1
With the Lions coming off a surprising win against the Dolphins, TLO put all their chips on them against the surging Seahawks only to leave us with two users entering Week 9.

Official Rules
1. Choose one team to win each week
2. You cannot select a team more than once in a season
3. If your team wins, you move on. If your team loses or ties, you are eliminated
4. lolrams (and maybe lollions)
5. You are free to change your pick as many times as you want, but you are locked in once the team you are currently on kicks off
6. Never forget rule #4

Alive (2)
Bartz (Ravens, Broncos, Bears, Chargers, Patriots, Packers, Falcons, Redskins)
Meow (Packers, Chargers, Bears, Jaguars, Panthers, Vikings, Colts, Steelers)
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicNFL Ladder Contest - Week 8
KCF0107
10/29/18 3:10:19 AM
#57
Wow, I didn't get any of the bonus teams correct
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicIf you were to experience one game for the 'first time' again, what would it be?
KCF0107
10/29/18 2:24:17 AM
#5
Far Cry 2, PixelJunk Shooter Ultimate, Ori and the Blind Forest, 999 for completely different reasons.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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Topic~MLB Official Discussion Topic 6: The Angel of Justice Is Blind~
KCF0107
10/29/18 12:19:20 AM
#458
I got to experience it in 2005, and I have mentioned this many times, but I fell asleep during Game 4 after the bottom of the 8th concluded!
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicSign-ups for B8's Best Project [sports]
KCF0107
10/28/18 8:04:46 PM
#81
I will do so later tonight or tomorrow
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicGreat Humble Bundle: Hotline Miami 2, Yooka-Laylee, Minit, Hyper Light Drifter
KCF0107
10/28/18 6:24:50 PM
#3
I own all of these games but Minit unfortunately.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicOctober Game of the Month Club ft. Gurumin, 999, and Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts
KCF0107
10/28/18 5:48:03 PM
#81
I will try and play Gurumin again tonight, and if finally getting around to the actual gameplay portion doesn't really grab me, I will probably move on.

The fact that we've had like two comments about next month's games after having done the drawing over 72 hours ago does not bode well.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicOctober Game of the Month Club ft. Gurumin, 999, and Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts
KCF0107
10/28/18 12:02:33 AM
#79
Gurumin didn't give a strong first impression in the first 15 minutes, and I haven't even done anything of substance. I'm also not a fan of the control scheme. I should see if I can re-map controls.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicSign-ups for B8's Best Project [sports]
KCF0107
10/27/18 7:16:14 PM
#79
In the topic title?

It mentions that info in the OP if that is what you were getting at.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicSign-ups for B8's Best Project [sports]
KCF0107
10/27/18 6:26:41 PM
#76
I might create a second sign-up topic for the final two or three days of sign-ups. I'm sure using a header along the lines of "Last chance to sign up for B8's best project!" might get a few people in the door at the very least.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicOctober Game of the Month Club ft. Gurumin, 999, and Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts
KCF0107
10/27/18 6:20:37 PM
#78
KCF has beaten 999

Finally wrapped up the true ending today, but man does pacing slow to an absolute crawl once you hit the exclusive path of the true ending. Loved replaying it. I appreciated some things more and less the second time around, but it is still far superior to the subsequent games in the trilogy.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicB8 NFL Suicide League: Week 8
KCF0107
10/27/18 6:08:41 PM
#6
games again tomorrow
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicWho cuts your hair?
KCF0107
10/27/18 5:49:59 PM
#12
Before I started shaving my head, it was my mom through I want to say my freshman year of college then a professional who also cut my mom and sister's hair until I was 24.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicI am about to wrap up my first Spring in Stardew Valley
KCF0107
10/27/18 1:06:42 PM
#18
What is there to even look up? Things seem pretty straightforward on how to play and how to unlock stuff from the community center
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicOctober Game of the Month Club ft. Gurumin, 999, and Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts
KCF0107
10/26/18 9:40:35 PM
#77
Wrapped up two more endings in 999, Safe and Axe.

I had a tough time understanding how to unlock the path for the true ending due to the new flowchart addition, but I think that I got things sorted out. I've come to appreciate the puzzles even more. They clearly aren't as involving or complex as VLR or ZTD, but they are the perfect length and nothing is frustrating.

I haven't come across my favorite line from the game despite going through both of the potential rooms where it had to have been used in. That's disappointing.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicSign-ups for B8's Best Project [sports]
KCF0107
10/26/18 4:19:35 PM
#75
I went ahead and had the Packers build a new stadium. I make all stadiums the same (for the maximum capacity of 85-86 thousand). I do this for any team whose stadium isn't labeled as at least great/very good (third-best quality after state-of-the-art and excellent) that can't really improve even with upgrades (age plays a big factor I think) and possess at least $250,000,000 in cash assets so they can cover the private costs (usually around $175,000,000) and have enough wiggle room after.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicB8 NFL Suicide League: Week 8
KCF0107
10/26/18 4:12:26 PM
#5
Bump
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicOctober Game of the Month Club ft. Gurumin, 999, and Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts
KCF0107
10/26/18 12:55:19 AM
#75
My first two endings, in order, were Knife and Sub. I see that they toned down the game just a tad. It used to be that your death scenes featured a blood splatter or fully blood red. Now they just have a white screen. I can't recall sound effects from the original game, but I also wonder if they made the fatal blow on you sound less visceral.

I once did a ranking of my Top 100 game moments back in like 2011 or 2012, and the sub and axe endings both made my list. I wish that I could experience the sub ending for the first time again. It would definitely still make my list if I did an updated set today.


Something that I have noticed that is really cool about the remasters is that characters aren't just still images, they actually move around some. About the only thing I liked from the less expensive move to using 3D models in VLR and ZTD was character animations, not that either game put much of their budget toward that.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicCollege Football Ladder Contest Week 9: Anti-purge for the opposite reason
KCF0107
10/25/18 7:50:47 PM
#6
Bump
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicI am about to wrap up my first Spring in Stardew Valley
KCF0107
10/25/18 4:23:51 PM
#15
Guy Rankings:
Sam >>>>>>>>>> Elliot > Harvey > Alex > Sebastian >>>>>>>> Shane

Sam is the only one that I will talk to because I want to. The rest are whatever except for Shane. He can go to hell.

Girl Rankings:
Leah >= Haley >= Emily >>> Abigail >= Maru >=Penny

I have barely spoken to Leah, but she seems to have some personality. I have spoken to Haley and Emily more than the rest combined, and they show more promise than everyone except for Leah. Abigail and Maru seem fine, but I have barely spoken to them. I've probably spoken to Penny the third most, and well, she's not all that interesting. I guess her mom is Pam, and having an alcoholic mother whom I have never seen with Penny helps explain things, but I will not romantically pursue someone out of pity.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicSign-ups for B8's Best Project [sports]
KCF0107
10/25/18 4:14:10 PM
#73
I just make sure that all prices are listed in the expected range according to the supposed financial advisers.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicOctober Game of the Month Club ft. Gurumin, 999, and Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts
KCF0107
10/25/18 4:00:53 PM
#74
Haven't progressed too far in 999. I have done three escape rooms thus far, but I can't play it for too long of stretches due to how tired I am. I have mixed feelings about the new voice acting. Seven and Ace were two of my favorite three or four characters when I went through this the first time, and I must say that I am disappointed with their voice artists thus far. Akane, Santa, and Snake are fine. Junpei is pretty good, but Lotus and Clover seem to be the best.

Clover is a pleasant surprise because it's apparently the same person who voices her in VLR. She got a raw deal with how crappy Clover and her lines were in VLR, but she's delivering her lines in a far more believable manner this time around.

I remember that the order I got the endings in 999 were Axe > Sub > Safe > True > Knife , so I am curious as to how things will shake out this time.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicSign-ups for B8's Best Project [sports]
KCF0107
10/25/18 3:46:32 PM
#71
To Do:
- Send stat PMs to Smitty and Shonen (did Chris this morning)
- Type up and save stats for Bears and Seahawks just in case
- Officially move file into offseason so I can change user/AI control for teams
- I suppose that I should also do ticket/parking/concession/memorabilia pricing and stadium stuff
- Possibly do a little fun thing of trivia/historical stats?
- Maybe something else that I'm missing
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicB8 NFL Suicide League: Week 8
KCF0107
10/25/18 3:32:14 PM
#4
Spreadsheet for current and previous seasons
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J0NVtelpQtD0NiC4LzTbWPPw9nh5WCIgyh3x_tGu0Pc

I somehow forgot to include that this topic
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TopicRed Dead Redemption 2 reviews are out
KCF0107
10/25/18 11:41:41 AM
#28
I remember my mom thinking I was watching a movie when I was playing Mafia II like seven years ago.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicOctober Game of the Month Club ft. Gurumin, 999, and Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts
KCF0107
10/25/18 11:29:31 AM
#72
1. Little Nemo: The Dream Master
2. West of Loathing
3. God of War II

4. Shadow of Mordor
5. Momodora: Reverie Under the Moonlight
6. Mega Man 11
7. Cloudbuilt
8. Full Throttle
9. Her Story
10. Super Mario Galaxy
11. What Remains of Edith Finch
12. Castlevania: Rondo of Blood
13. Odallus: The Dark Call
14. 80 Days
15. Rime
16. Ratchet & Clank (2016)
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicOctober Game of the Month Club ft. Gurumin, 999, and Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts
KCF0107
10/25/18 11:28:24 AM
#71
Your November Games of the Month are

Little Nemo: The Dream Master (NES)
West of Loathing (PC/iOS/Switch)
God of War II (PS2/PS3/Vita)


Congrats to Nee, Lolo, and gameking for having their games selected!

And to celebrate its 15th anniversary and make up for the Spyro snafu, Beyond Good & Evil (PC/360/PS3/Xbox/PS2/GC) will be a special fourth game.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicOctober Game of the Month Club ft. Gurumin, 999, and Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts
KCF0107
10/25/18 11:17:25 AM
#70
Noms and nom changes closed. I will be drawing momentarily.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicOctober Game of the Month Club ft. Gurumin, 999, and Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts
KCF0107
10/25/18 10:48:46 AM
#69
Last call for noms and nom changes
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TopicOctober Game of the Month Club ft. Gurumin, 999, and Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts
KCF0107
10/25/18 7:47:48 AM
#68
Expect the drawing to be later this morning. I have a dentist appointment in a bit, and I will probably do the drawing shortly after I return.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicSign-ups for B8's Best Project [sports]
KCF0107
10/25/18 1:51:42 AM
#70
All aspects of the wiki should now be updated. All I have to do is send out stat PMs to Smitty, Chris, and Shonen (plus non-Ranlom Tony should the Seahawks guy sign up in time, though I guess I can type it out in Notepad or something) and play the waiting game. Well, I guess there's some fun stats I could come up with now that I have the time and access to everything.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicNFL Pick'em Topic Week 8
KCF0107
10/25/18 12:32:45 AM
#31
Miami Dolphins

Philadelphia Eagles
Chicago Bears
Cincinnati Bengals
Seattle Seahawks
Kansas City Chiefs
New York Giants
Pittsburgh Steelers
Carolina Panthers
Indianapolis Colts
Los Angeles Rams
San Francisco 49ers
Minnesota Vikings

New England Patriots
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicBoard 8's Other NFL Picks League - Week 8
KCF0107
10/25/18 12:31:23 AM
#15
Miami Dolphins
Philadelphia Eagles
Carolina Panthers
Kansas City Chiefs
Pittsburgh Steelers - LOCK
Seattle Seahawks
Cincinnati Bengals
Chicago Bears
New York Giants
Indianapolis Colts - SUPER LOCK
San Francisco 49ers
Los Angeles Rams - LOCK
Minnesota Vikings
New England Patriots
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicI am about to wrap up my first Spring in Stardew Valley
KCF0107
10/25/18 12:26:20 AM
#14
I have given everyone a gift on their birthday. I have no idea what anyone likes, but I have had a great success rate thus far. I often just give food or flowers. Only Vincent and Pierre haven't liked my gifts.

Journal as in quests from when people show up to my house, send me letters, or requests posted outside of the general store? I have completed most of the first two. I haven't built a coop or reached the bottom of the mines yet. Some of those requests are hard to do on two days notice, especially fish ones imo, so I have only accepted a handful of them.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicNFL Ladder Contest - Week 8
KCF0107
10/25/18 12:13:34 AM
#19
Level 3:
Dolphins
Seahawks

Bonus: Giants, 49ers, Vikings
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicI am about to wrap up my first Spring in Stardew Valley
KCF0107
10/25/18 12:11:37 AM
#12
Oh, I have met her. I only briefly talked about her (she was referred to as the nerd).
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TopicI am about to wrap up my first Spring in Stardew Valley
KCF0107
10/24/18 11:46:05 PM
#10
Is it east of the adventurer's cabin, or whatever it is called? I finally gained accessed to the railyard northwest of the mine. but I haven't seen anyone there.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicI am about to wrap up my first Spring in Stardew Valley
KCF0107
10/24/18 11:20:13 PM
#8
A brief Google search says that co-op is online-only right now.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicBoard 8's Other NFL Picks League - Week 8
KCF0107
10/24/18 10:52:03 PM
#14
Yeah, I have made the playoffs only twice in this league, but I at least make them count! I'm the Miami Marlins of B8 Pick'em.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicOctober Game of the Month Club ft. Gurumin, 999, and Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts
KCF0107
10/24/18 10:12:06 PM
#66
I plan on starting 999 later tonight and download Gurumin tomorrow.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicOctober Game of the Month Club ft. Gurumin, 999, and Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts
KCF0107
10/24/18 10:10:44 PM
#65
Monthly Progress
Gurumin - gameking
999 - Lolo, gameking
Super Ghouls - Ark, Nee, Crispy

Nominations
Ark - 80 Days, Momodora: Reverie
Cody - Ratchet & Clank (2016), Her Story
Crispy - Shadow of Mordor, Full Throttle, Castlevania: Rondo of Blood
gameking - Rime, God of War II, Edith Finch
KCF - (Super) Cloudbuilt
Lolo - West of Loathing, Mega Man 11
Nee - Little Nemo: The Dream Master, Odallus
Wickle - Super Mario Galaxy

Drawing will be tomorrow
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicB8 NFL Suicide League: Week 8
KCF0107
10/24/18 7:37:43 PM
#2
10/15
Dolphins at Texans

10/28
Eagles at Jaguars
Broncos at Chiefs
Browns at Steelers
Redskins at Giants
Seahawks at Lions
Buccaneers at Bengals
Jets at Bears
Ravens at Panthers
Colts at Raiders
49ers at Cardinals
Packers at Rams
Saints at Vikings

10/29
Patriots at Bills
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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TopicB8 NFL Suicide League: Week 8
KCF0107
10/24/18 7:37:33 PM
#1
After we went through a week unscathed, we lost 40% of the remaining users and are down to our final three.

Official Rules
1. Choose one team to win each week
2. You cannot select a team more than once in a season
3. If your team wins, you move on. If your team loses or ties, you are eliminated
4. lolrams (and maybe lollions)
5. You are free to change your pick as many times as you want, but you are locked in once the team you are currently on kicks off
6. Never forget rule #4

Alive (3)
Bartz (Ravens, Broncos, Bears, Chargers, Patriots, Packers, Falcons)
LastObelisk (Ravens, Bears, Rams, Patriots, Saints, Packers, Chargers)
Meow (Packers, Chargers, Bears, Jaguars, Panthers, Vikings, Colts)
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TopicNBA Discussion Topic: We're Back!
KCF0107
10/24/18 4:16:07 PM
#174
Greg Oden was at least pretty good, maybe even great, when healthy.
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