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I'm still not sure why every so often, Wikipedia pages are locked down. Also, how long do they stay locked down for? I can understand for contentious things, or if people are likely to vandalise a page, but sometimes seemingly random pages are locked down. Isn't that against the whole point of Wikipedia?
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Everyone else's? She sounds like a regular Tinderella.
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That was a strange thing to happen. Very strange.
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Here are names of various interesting documentaries on Germany.


Some short documentaries:

The Making of Merkel with Andrew Marr

Make Me A German

Wilhelm II of Germany


Some much longer documentaries:

Hitler Nazi - The Rise and Fall Documentary

That Was the GDR - A History of the Other Germany



Alpha218 posted...

Wikipedia gets unfairly vilified tbh. I do agree that you cant really use that as a source though. Good thing their articles are reasonably cited and you can read those sources instead.

In theory, any non-fiction work, such as non-fiction books or TV documentaries can have inaccuracies. It can be due to bad research, or people lying on certain subjects, or a bias on the part of the person making the work. It's just, allegedly, a worse problem on Wikipedia. But I'm not sure if that's true.

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Ragdolled? Sounds good, but what does it mean?
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Given how literary lawyers and judges take law in America, including but not limited to the Constitution, I wouldn't be surprised if this actually worked. So there we go.
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Hey Tar, did you see that video I posted? Do you want to comment on it?
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NinjaBreakfast, only you would think every writer wants to be a bestseller.

That would be...disgusting. I want to, eventually, be a mid-level writer. You know, like most, if not all of the great writers of the last 300 years?

And also, despite what you said, I've learnt from many sources. Wikipedia, documentaries, films, non-fiction books, fiction books. What is your problem? Also, in the future, people would generally probably consider Wikipedia to be a legitimate way to either party, or fully, research an important project. Who knows, perhaps we'll destroy all the non-fiction books, and shut down all the research websites because we don't need them anymore.

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Alpha, I would happily make you both go away from this topic.

Unless either of you want to make intelligent, friendly posts about Germany. Which, based on the past, seems highly unlikely.

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Tar, you are a persona non grata in this topic. I suggest you post in some movies topic, or something about Smash. I think that would be nice.
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Wow, according to Wikipedia, LGBT sexual activity was legal from 1968 onwards. What surprises me even more, it took until 1969 in West Germany for it to be legal.

I wouldn't be surprised if, unofficially, LGBT people were discriminated against in East Germany, although perhaps not too badly.

Hey, Tar, have you come into this topic to troll me, with sentiments such as women not getting discriminated against in the modern German workforce, or Germans no longer celebrating Octoberfest?

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Something I've wondered for a while, although I don't know if anyone in this topic can answer. How were LGBT people treated in East Germany? I would assume they were quite severely punished, probably a few years in either prison, or a Stazi holding cell, but I'm not sure one way or the other.
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Romulox28 posted...

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What would you do if I said yes?

Close your account? Never return? Admit that you're wrong about me being a bad writer, a troll, and a loser, and beg forgiveness? Would you tell everyone on this board and that you know IRL what a decent person I am?

so it's a no huh

The problem with the trolls on this board, including the supertrolls, is that they can't admit defeat. I mean, look at XSquader, over the last couple of years. Probably still attempting to sue the police for...whatever.

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What would you do if I said yes?

Close your account? Never return? Admit that you're wrong about me being a bad writer, a troll, and a loser, and beg forgiveness? Would you tell everyone on this board and that you know IRL what a decent person I am?

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Surprised nobody wants to rebut my last post. I thought they'd definitely want to.

Perhaps most places in Germany are rough and unpleasant.

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Little Nightmares, Rime, Shovel Knight, or whatever. It sometimes feels that way. Short, simple games, often with moderately bad problems, get like 7.5s or 8.0s. Is this to encourage smaller developers, or something? Or do reviewers just feel sorry for them?
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For years, I've thought of modern Germany as like in the video below. Graffiti all over walls, really poor council estates, hulks of cars just left lying around...people occasionally killing each other. I'm not entirely convinced this isn't an accurate impression.

Warning: video contains violence, and also major spoilers for the film Hanna.



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Ryetoast posted...

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Also, haters gonna hate.

Its not a short story.

It would be an encyclopedia entry like the shitty sources you used to learn about Germany.

Dont use terms you dont know, and dont write a 500 page novel on information you got from Wikipedia and movies.

You forgot documentaries.

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People shouldn't be put in rehab for gaming too much; they should be thrown in fucking prison for not gaming ENOUGH.

What is wrong with society?

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MrK3V posted...

I was born in Germany. In the Hessen area in a town called Fulda.

My American dad met my German mom at a costume party in Germany when he was stationed there.

Any thoughts on modern Germany?

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Also, haters gonna hate.
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Ryetoast, I don't think you understand what "fan fiction" means. I suggest you find out.

I might have talked mostly about the Nazi regime in this topic, but as I said, I would to write about various periods. The Nazi regime is one of the most interesting, though.

I must admit, when I was first thinking about this short story collection, I had little to no idea about the modern part of it. I have quite a few ideas now*, but really had almost no clue at the time. Wikipedia and documentaries got me going for knowledge of both specific things, and the general zeitgeist (so to speak) of the modern German nation.

* Millennials living in 2010s Germany; women struggling to get taken seriously in the workplace; free elections; the internet; poverty in certain parts of the country; immigration; the alt-right making gains in culture; the recent Recession.
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Why do people think it's SO clever to post in German, in my topics about the country, wasting people's time and trolling? I don't get it. No, I don't speak German. If I want to understand a post like that, I use an online translator. But why bother in the first place? To make me look ignorant, because I don't speak German? I don't live in Germany or Austria, I live in Britain.
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I agree, frozenshock, he was clearly a major figure in German history. I knew little about him until recently, but sat and watched some 1 hour documentary, and that caught me up.

I actually agree with the Trump comparison. They're both people who say random things that don't make much sense, and they clearly alienate and upset people. I suppose it's possible that Trump will also start a new World War (although with Russia, I wouldn't entirely blame him).

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Ryetoast posted...

First theres a shit ton of WW2 books on Nazism. And nobody would want to read 10 pages let alone 500 on Nazi fan fiction.

Second, finish the damn book youve been working on for how long?

Nazi fan fiction? Lol.

Also, it covers a lot of different periods. The trouble is writing interesting stuff for the Weimar Republic, and the German Empire.

inb4writeabouttheholyromanempire

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teepan95 posted...

Alpha218 posted...

@TarElessar doesnt troll Sunhawk

Yeah, except he frequently does. All because I called him out on trying to cover up problems with Germany.

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Is that the German national anthem or something?
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I find it a very interesting country. It started with the Nazi regime, then spread to other things like modern Germany and East and West Germany.

I'm thinking about writing a book set in Germany, at various points in time. I've been contemplating this for almost 6 months now. Originally, it was going to be a novel set in the Nazi regime, then it was going to be a different kind of novel in the same period, but eventually I thought it would be good to write a short story collection that covers the last 150 years or so of Germany history. There's so much potential. It would probably be a big book, as well, maybe 450 - 500 pages.

What do people think of this? Do I still not know enough? Is it just a bad idea to begin with because nobody wants to read a short story collection that long?

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Wow. There's a word for someone who scavenged in sewers? This is pretty worrying.
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Who do you think where the most important people in the Nazi regime, other than Hitler himself?

I'd say Speer, Goebbels, Goring, Himmler, Rommel, and maybe Heydrich. Obviously there were plenty of other major Nazis, but I'd say those were the key figures. Hess was important early on, but that was all (and was disavowed by Hitler), and various other people weren't as important as some of the names I've given.

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I'm pretty pleased about this. Less gaming is bad, more gaming is good.
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Alpha218 posted...

Im surprised that you didnt tag our good German mod friend

He would probably just come in and troll the topic. You know Tar. I'm vaguely surprised they made him a mod, but too late to worry about it now.

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Sounds nice.

However, it does remind me of that 80s photograph, that young man and woman kneeling under a tiny little tree, with just a few presents on the ground. Hilarious picture. I don't even know the story behind it, if any.

I've only ever had a fake tree. I enjoy putting it together, though.

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DavidWong posted...

Sunhawk posted...

DavidWong posted...

Ooh

John Dies at the End

You know, when I saw your username, I thought of that author. I assume you're named after him, rather than you're actually call David Wong IRL?

I thought about reading that for quite a while, but it seemed low-brow and, you know...mainstream.

I'm not even sure if there are any proper surrealist books. I'm also really surprised that nobody has mentioned Kafka's works yet.

Yeah I took his name.

It is pretty low brow, but also a fucking awesome book. Give it a try.

Do you remember when the serious reading communities wouldn't shut the fuck up about House of Leaves? Basically, for all of the 2000s, they just talked and talked about it. Crazy. I admit, though, it's a very good book, and NOBODY could say that it's just another cookie cutter release.

MZD is one of those writers that self-destructed, which is both sad and hilarious. He wrote that fucking dreadful Only Revolutions, one of the worst books I have EVER read cover to cover...and then there was his super-epic The Familiar, which sounds like garbage, and got cancelled after 5 of the 28 volumes were releases. I wonder what his next career move will be. A book about the president's children getting kidnapped, written in a fictional language of his own creation and without a glossary at the end?

Shame. House of Leaves was one of those special works.

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DavidWong posted...

Ooh

John Dies at the End

You know, when I saw your username, I thought of that author. I assume you're named after him, rather than you're actually call David Wong IRL?

I thought about reading that for quite a while, but it seemed low-brow and, you know...mainstream.

I'm not even sure if there are any proper surrealist books. I'm also really surprised that nobody has mentioned Kafka's works yet.

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Hey. This is more like it. But stranger still. You know, you might read the book, and have no idea wtf the "point" was, if any. Or there might be 3 or 4 ways to interpret the main plot of the book.
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This isn't really what I had in mind.

I mean, really strange shit. Very abstract. Possibly without any real meaning, just surrealism for the sake of surrealism. If you want some reasonably good examples of this, think Eraserhead, or Lost Highway, or The Treachery of Images.

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How are Ken Kesey's book and TTM surrealist? Wtf?
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In the US (I think), it's when it sells 10 million copies.

I thought the highest was platinum, although you could say double platinum, triple platinum, etc.

Kinda scary that an album can sell 10 million copies, anyway. Feels like the people buying it are sheep, or something. Probably own iPhone Xs as well.

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You forgot Eternal Sonata. One of the best-looking games I've ever seen.
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pinky sex topic.
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Alright, thanks! I didn't know about the fire weapon thing at all, though. o_O;; Just recently, when I was using a meteor wand in the Hebra Mountains, it occured to me that might work, but I didn't really try it. It's good, because the torch can go out under certain circumstances, and can take a few seconds to relight, or you might not be able to relight it at all, at the time.

Have you played many sandbox games? How do you feel they compare? I've had a chance to really play about 5 or 6, and this is definitely my favourite.

@SpiralDrift

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SaithSayer posted...

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SaithSayer posted...

The advancements just aren't as visual. dialogue trees, giant open worlds, etc..

But why? Can't we advance in more than one way at once? I mean...we used to.

Because it takes more hardware to keep improving that. It takes more people working on it to get it done at a decent time....

The cost of these AAA games and the numbers they have to sell to turn a profit are nuts.

Yeah, it's sad about how "big" projects often are these days. I remember when RE6 came out (I think), and it had to sell X number of copies to even break even, and X was a pretty high number, quite a few million, I think.

TBQH, I don't just want sad little indie games that are basically 2-bit games, but I want somewhere inbetween. Games with excellent graphics, and quite a lot of content, but they don't have to be sandbox games, or games with tons of online modes that took a long time to development.

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SaithSayer posted...

The advancements just aren't as visual. dialogue trees, giant open worlds, etc..

But why? Can't we advance in more than one way at once? I mean...we used to.

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You know, things used to advance so quickly, that the N64 looked considerably better than the PS1, and the DC looked considerably better than the N64, and those were basically all the same generation.
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I've been using a torch, and just using health items to replenish my hearts when I'm not using a torch. I used to do this in my original file, as well, before getting the cold weather clothes. It's more exciting anyway, the sense of danger you get.

Do you mind telling me how to get in, then? I searched for a while, but was stumped. I thought there would be an opening you could get to from the river, on that raft, but I didn't see anything. Am I meant to go in from above, or something?

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*will maybe
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This would be worse than the 2008 recession, which was very, very bad for the UK, and the worst economic problems we've seen since World War 2.

Uh...I guess we should try and convince the Commons to vote for the deal the Prime Minister has worked out.

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Uh...I I've never spent more than maybe 300 on a system, and many of those were a big improvement on previous consoles. The Gamecube, the XBox 360, etc.
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I realised recently, I've probably never read any surrealist literature. I've seen some (arguably) surrealist films, and viewed surrealist paintings. Are there some good surrealist books, and if so, what are they?
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