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Dragon66116 posted...

Giving away two free saves, one per user

Sadness please
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Peridiam posted...

I've been reading these.

Inviso/darkx, did you guys ever rank BB19? Curious to see where Jess/Cody fair in that group.

1. Cody
2. Mark
3. Dominique
4. Jason
5. Jessica
6. Kevin
7. Josh
8. Elena
9. Megan
10. Jillian
11. Cameron
12. Ramses
13. Alex
14. Raven
15. Christmas
16. Matt
17. Paul

Give or take.
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Update please?
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I'll update again tomorrow.
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Naye745 posted...

still pretty sure kara is gonna win

nick looked pretty foolish this episode though, i'm souring on his odds fast

As much as I desperately want DvG Spencer to lose, don't EVER take negativity in the penultimate episode as damning towards a winner's chances. The penultimate episode is big on making the winner (if they're prominent like Nick) look beatable.
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The Mana Sword posted...

anyway, almost 100% mike and angelina are F3 goats, so whoever makes it to the end of the other four wins.

hoping for davie, but Im predicting nick

I'm still fully onboard the Kara train.
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The Mana Sword posted...

yeah hell be back for sure, but as good as the season is, its going to be a bummer not having him around for the finale

I'm surprised he didn't make the final. I figured the editors wouldn't edit someone so overwhelmingly positive if they didn't at least make the endgame to draw in the casuals.
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eaedwards6400 posted...

Btw, Women final four. I'm feeling it.

There are only three of them left. >_>
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I think it's still gonna be Alison. I've been predicting her boot since the final 10, and it would feel perfect for her to go out after she fucked up the Nick blindside.
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Seven different immunity winners in a row:

Alison > Dan > Alec > Christian > Davie > Kara > Mike

I think that's a record.
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Angelina's balls dropped during this challenge.
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See, Davie is a gamebot, but he has a dynamic personality, so his gamebotting is tolerable. A little interesting, even.
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God dammit Alison. What part of "don't tell Mike and Angelina, because they'll tell Nick" is so confusing?
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Oh my God, the rice subplot plus the jacket subplot is amazing.
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I love Angelina so much. She's so annoying and I love it.
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XDXDXD Angelina.

"Davie, can I have a trip on the reward?"
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Also, Davie going against the awful alliance of Nick/Mike (with Angelina as an honorary non-awful member) is enough to make me root for him.
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See, this is why I don't like Nick. Not only is all of his content about gamebotting, but he's so smug and sure of how much better he is than everyone else.
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Big Brother 20:

???. Sam Bledsoe
2. Kaitlyn Herman
3. Angie "Rockstar" Layton
4. Bayleigh Dayton
5. Rachel Swindler
6. Haleigh Broucher
7. Winston Hines
8. Kaycee Clarke
9. Steve Arienta
10. Scottie Salton
11. Chris "Swaggy C" Williams
12. Faysal Shafaat
13. Tyler Crispen
14. Angela Rummans
15. Brett Robinson
16. JC Mounduix

Celebrity Big Brother 1:

1. Metta World Peace
2. Omarosa Manigault
3. Ariadna Gutierrez
4. Brandi Glanville
5. Shannon Elizabeth
6. Keshia Knight Pulliam
7. Chuck Liddell
8. Marissa Janey Winokur
9. Mark McGrath
10. Ross Mathews
11. James Maslow

Survivor: Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustlers:

???. Lauren Rimmer
2. Alan Ball
3. Cole Medders
4. Devon Pinto
5. Simone Nguyen
6. Chrissy Hofbeck
7. Jessica Johnston
8. Ashley Nolan
9. Mike Zahalsky
10. Joe Mena
11. Patrick Bolton
12. Ali Elliott
13. Desi Williams
14. JP Hilsabeck
15. Roark Luskin
16. Katrina Radke
17. Ryan Ulrich
18. Ben Driebergen

Survivor: Ghost Island:

???. Chris Noble
2. Stephanie Johnson
3. Kellyn Bechtold
4. Desiree Afuye
5. Wendell Holland, Jr.
6. James Lim
7. Jacob Derwin
8. Domenick Abbate
9. Donathan Hurley
10. Angela Perkins
11. Chelsea Townsend
12. Morgan Ricke
13. Stephanie Gonzalez
14. Libby Vincek
15. Sebastian Noel
16. Brendan Shapiro
17. Bradley Kleihege
18. Jenna Bowman
19. Laurel Johnson
20. Michael Yerger

The Amazing Race 30:

???. Cody & Jessica
???. Kristi & Jen
3. Alex & Conor
4. Lucas & Brittany
5. April & Sarah
6. Cedric & Shawn
7. Henry & Evan
8. Eric & Daniel
9. Joey & Tim
10. Trevor & Chris
11. Dessie & Kayla
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51. JP Hilsabeck (Survivor: Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustlers, 9th Place)
52. Roark Luskin (Survivor: Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustlers, 14th Place)
53. Libby Vincek (Survivor: Ghost Island, 12th Place)
54. Sebastian Noel (Survivor: Ghost Island, 6th Place)
55. Brendan Shapiro (Survivor: Ghost Island, 17th Place)
56. Steve Arienta (Big Brother 20, 16th Place)
57. Dessie & Kayla (The Amazing Race 30, 11th Place)
58. Chuck Liddell (Celebrity Big Brother 1, 11th Place)
59. Katrina Radke (Survivor: Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustlers, 18th Place)
60. Scottie Salton (Big Brother 20, 8th Place)
61. Chris "Swaggy C" Williams (Big Brother 20, 15th Place)
62. Marissa Janet Winokur (Celebrity Big Brother 1, 1st Place)
63. Bradley Kleihege (Survivor: Ghost Island, 14th Place)
64. Faysal Shafaat (Big Brother 20, 9th Place)
65. Jenna Bowman (Survivor: Ghost Island, 10th Place)
66. Mark McGrath (Celebrity Big Brother 1, 4th Place)
67. Laurel Johnson (Survivor: Ghost Island, 3rd Place)
68. Michael Yerger (Survivor: Ghost Island, 9th Place)
69. Ross Mathews (Celebrity Big Brother 1, 2nd Place)
70. Tyler Crispen (Big Brother 20, 2nd Place)
71. Angela Rummans (Big Brother 20, 4th Place)
72. James Maslow (Celebrity Big Brother 1, 6th Place)
73. Ryan Ulrich (Survivor: Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustlers, 3rd Place)
74. Brett Robinson (Big Brother 20, 6th Place)
75. Ben Driebergen (Survivor: Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustlers, 1st Place)
76. JC Mounduix (Big Brother 20, 3rd Place)
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Chris Noble (Survivor: Ghost Island, 13th Place)
Cody & Jessica (The Amazing Race 30, 1st Place)
Kristi & Jen (The Amazing Race 30, 3rd Place)
Lauren Rimmer (Survivor: Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustlers, 7th Place)
Sam Bledsoe (Big Brother 20, 5th Place)

1. ???
2. ???
3. ???
4. ???
5. ???
6. Kaitlyn Herman (Big Brother 20, 13th Place)
7. Metta World Peace (Celebrity Big Brother, 8th Place)
8. Alex & Conor (The Amazing Race 30, 4th Place)
9. Omarosa Manigault (Celebrity Big Brother 1, 5th Place)
10. Alan Ball (Survivor: Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustlers, 15th Place)
11. Lucas & Brittany (The Amazing Race 30, 5th Place)
12. Stephanie Johnson (Survivor: Ghost Island, 16th Place)
13. Cole Medders (Survivor: Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustlers, 10th Place)
14. Devon Pinto (Survivor: Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustlers, 4th Place)
15. Angie "Rockstar" Lantry (Big Brother 20, 10th Place)
16. April & Sarah (The Amazing Race 30, 10th Place)
17. Simone Nguyen (Survivor: Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustlers, 17th Place)
18. Chrissy Hofbeck (Survivor: Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustlers, 2nd Place)
19. Ariadna Gutierrez (Celebrity Big Brother 1, 3rd Place)
20. Cedric & Shawn (The Amazing Race 30, 9th Place)
21. Jessica Johnston (Survivor: Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustlers, 12th Place)
22. Brandi Glanville (Celebrity Big Brother 1, 7th Place)
23. Ashley Nolan (Survivor: Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustlers, 6th Place)
24. Henry & Evan (The Amazing Race 30, 2nd Place)
25. Mike Zahalsky (Survivor: Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustlers, 5th Place)
26. Joe Mena (Survivor: Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustlers, 8th Place)
27. Bayleigh Dayton (Big Brother 20, 11th Place)
28. Rachel Swindler (Big Brother 20, 12th Place)
29. Shannon Elizabeth (Celebrity Big Brother 1, 9th Place)
30. Kellyn Bechtold (Survivor: Ghost Island, 7th Place)
31. Desiree Afuye (Survivor: Ghost Island, 11th Place)
32. Wendall Holland, Jr. (Survivor: Ghost Island, 1st Place)
33. James Lim (Survivor: Ghost Island, 15th Place)
34. Jacob Derwin (Survivor: Ghost Island, 19th Place)
35. Patrick Bolton (Survivor: Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustlers, 16th Place)
36. Haleigh Broucher (Big Brother 20, 7th Place)
37. Keshia Knight Pulliam (Celebrity Big Brother 1, 10th Place)
38. Domenick Abbate (Survivor: Ghost Island, 2nd Place)
39. Winston Hines (Big Brother 20, 14th Place)
40. Donathan Hurley (Survivor: Ghost Island, 5th Place)
41. Eric & Daniel (The Amazing Race 30, 6th Place)
42. Ali Elliott (Survivor: Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustlers, 13th Place)
43. Desi Williams (Survivor: Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustlers, 11th Place)
44. Kaycee Clark (Big Brother 20, 1st Place)
45. Angela Perkins (Survivor: Ghost Island, 4th Place)
46. Chelsea Townsend (Survivor: Ghost Island, 8th Place)
47. Morgan Ricke (Survivor: Ghost Island, 18th Place)
48. Stephanie Gonzalez (Survivor: Ghost Island, 20th Place)
49. Joey & Tim (The Amazing Race 30, 8th Place)
50. Trevor & Chris (The Amazing Race 30, 7th Place)
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All of this was possible because of KAITLYN. The only other person who mightve let their emotions get to them to THAT level is Sam, but well never know, will we? All I know is that Kaitlyn left the house to find out that her boyfriend dumped her (yeah, she was trying to showmance two dudes, with a boyfriend on the outside), and later on found out that Tyler and Angela were true love 5eva, which led to bitter Twitter meltdowns. Shes such a wonderful trainwreck of humanity that I can almost forgive her for enabling the alliance that ruined the season. Almost. Sixth place on this list is almost forgiveness.
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So for starters, its important to note that Kaitlyn spent the first month of the game flirting with Faysal and Tyler because, as mentioned earlier, shes one of those center-of-attention type girls. This didnt sit well with HoH Sam who, lets just say took issue with the flirtation strategyto put it nicely. This sent Kaitlyn into a fucking tailspin of tears and crying, and it was glorious. But at least she still had her best friend Faysal watching her back, right? Yeah, no. Faysals dick commanded him to save Haleigh (in a creepy fashion, but whatever), which led to MORE tears and crying from a jilted Kaitlyn. At that point, it was probably in FOUTTEs best interest to take out Rockstar over Kaitlyn, but for one reason or another, the whole house united against the hippie pest (who, I should point out, claimed she was communicating with Tylers dead father at this point soyeah) and sent her out in the most lopsided vote up to that point in the season.

All of this would be fine on its own, but then we get to the twist. Sam won a do-over in week one that allowed her to save an evictee after the votes were revealed, and if she didnt use it by week four, it would automatically be used to save whoever got evicted. This person happened to be Kaitlyn. Now, if you know anything about Big Brother, you know that the producers budget the show nowadays with eighteen players in for their schedule. This usually means multiple buybacks, although they tend to take at least one such buyback and PRETEND that the players in the house can prevent it from happening. Like BB19: in THEORY, Paul couldve beaten Cody, but theres no way Cody was losing a competition hed already won once before.

This brings us back to Kaitlyn. The caveat to Sams power was that, while the evicted player wasnt completely out of the game, they had to complete a challenge to stick around. The producers did this in the interest of fairnessbut at the same time, they created a seven-piece puzzle that a player just needed to disassemble on one side of a wall, and reassemble on the other side. In two and a half minutes. Thats a SEVEN-piece puzzle, ALREADY put together, that the player just needed to transfer from one platform to another. I think you know where this is going.

What happened next was a thing of beauty. Kaitlyn started out strong enough, pushing the seven pieces from one side to the other. And thenmagic. She struggled with the legs and wasted Id wager a solid minute to minute and a half just sobbing about how she couldnt do it. I was stunned. Id spent the entire week preparing for this moment under the mindset that the producers would never allow someone to fail their challenge. And somehow, Kaitlyn managed to defy expectations. She gave up and wept so spectacularly that I legitimately wondered for a moment whether shed thrown the competition just to get out of the house. That ending STILL gives me goosebumps (probably because it was the last time that an event in the house didnt directly benefit Level 6/5/4, but whatever.)

So a sobbing Kaitlyn fails her challenge, and you KNOW production had no contingency plan. They budgeted time in the episode specifically for her to succeed and rejoin her housematesnot for her to ACTUALLY leave the house. There were no interview chairs when she left, and Julie had about two minutes to conduct an interview with one of the seasons biggest characters. Ive gotta say, given how much I hate productions influence on events, I LOVE when their own stupid bullshit backfires. I loved when their saboteur twist blew up week one of Big Brother 12, I loved when Keshia burned their dumb power steal twist in week one of Celebrity Big Brother, and I loved how 90% of their twists in BB20 went over like a wet fart (except the one time they worked and utterly ruined the momentum of the seasonthanks for the hacker twist, assholes!)
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6. Kaitlyn Herman (Big Brother 20, 13th Place)

Kaitlyn Herman is like the love child of Ronnie Talbott and Audrey Middleton, and when Im reminded of Ronnie, I REALLY dont need the mental image of him creating a love child with ANYONE. But yeah, for the first four weeks of the season, whether you liked her or hated her (most hated her, Im sure), Kaitlyn was the fucking STAR of the season. And thats a pretty tall order, given that she was competing against people like Swaggy, Tyler and Sam for screen time during those early weeks.

So yeah, from minute one of the season, Kaitlyn was a bizarre human being, going on and on about new-age meditation and chakras and third eyes and whatnot (to the point where the editors had some fun and digitally inserted a third eye in the center of her forehead.) And this annoyed some people, but it also helped to bond her with an alliance that she not only created, but she personally NAMED. This is important. Kaitlyn came up with the name FOUTTEand within one week regretted that decision.

See, the thing about Kaitlyn is that she was thirsty as HELL. She wanted to have a showmance with Faysal, she wanted to have a showmance with Tyler, and she was basically one of those girls who wanted all the guys to pay attention to her and her alone. Sure, she had her girl squad sub-alliance with Rockstar and Haleigh, but when Haleigh started showmancing Faysal, that didnt sit right with Kaitlyn. After all, Faysal was HER back-up showmance. This insecurity, combined with Swaggys arrogance, Sams immunity power, and Tylers social skills, led to Kaitlyn betraying the alliance she created, and flipping to take out Steve.

This would be good in and of itselfexcept the second HoH competition was a crapshoot, and wouldnt you know itKaitlyn wound up winning. This is where that Ronnie Talbott comparison comes into play. Kaitlyn flipped and caused a split vote to go against her allies, but at least she could still pretend someone else cast that sole vote. But then she HAD to make a decision and show all her cards. With Tyler in her ear about Swaggy, Kaitlyn pretty much fucked herself by backdooring Swaggy to the chagrin of her entire alliance, yet she did all of this with tears in her eyes, like SHE was the victim.

At that point, Kaitlyn became a bit of a nuisance. Shed already betrayed all of her friends to help an alliance that she didnt know about (and that didnt care about her.) And yet she still wanted to be part of the cool in-group with her FOUTTE buddies. She continued acting like everything was cool and Faysal owed her something because theyre friends (that she didnt bother to keep in the loop when Swaggy got backdoored), and admittedly, she was kinda annoying. She survived week three solely because Scottie won HoH and had bigger fish to fry, but then came week four, and this is what skyrocketed Kaitlyn into the top tier of my list.
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For the record, I'm at 40% Kara, 35% Christian, 15% Nick, 10% Angelina in terms of my winner prediction.
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Karo, eliminating the "sound like they're from Cars, but not actually from Cars" duo.
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Bernard
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Vanellope
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7. Metta World Peace (Celebrity Big Brother 1, 8th Place)

So yeah, Celebrity Big Brother is the first season fully eliminated from my ranking. Thats not surprising, given that Id argue every season on the list (aside from TAR30) could reasonably get fully-eliminated without me complaining. The real surprise that that, despite me griping about it for several months, BB20 managed to push TWO players past the best of its celebrity counterpart. But thats not important. What IS important is talking about the bizarre journey of Metta World Peace, and how he became the most enjoyable aspect of Celebrity Big Brother.

First of all, in the modern era of hyper-competitive turbo strategy (on Survivor and Big Brother alike), Im naturally going to be drawn to the characters that have no real clue what the hell theyre doing on the show. Within DAYS of Celebrity Big Brother kicking off, Metta wanted out of the game because he missed his wife (Girlfriend? Fianc?) too much to abandon her for*checks the schedule* three weeks. He hilariously tried to get himself nominated and evicted week one, but the women had bigger fish to fryonly to evict Chuck Liddell forsome reason. And then Keshia had a breakdown in round two and begged to be voted out, which made the denial of Mettas wishes all the more ironic.

But once it became clear that the other players had no intention of evicting him, Metta became a comedy machine. He wasnt going around and strategizing non-stop (thank goodness), and he mainly just goofed around and talked to the cameras and played with rubber ducks. Hed occasionally hint that he wanted to be nominated, but everyone hated each other too much to gun for him. And I loved that. I loved that Metta was such a bizarre wild card that couldnt leave (despite allegedly trying to escape like, five times) by sheer virtue of NOT being an obnoxious gamebot.

Sadly, his journey was cut short when Omarosa won HoH and Ross got an overpowered veto win that put Omarosa in a REALLY rough spot, to the point where she nominated him just to keep the blood off her hands of nominating two or three other players. So Metta finally got his wish and left the house, only to vote randomly because he allegedly didnt understand how the finals format worked. God bless this man and all his bizarre eccentricities. He was the star of the first half of CBB1.
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8. Alex & Conor (The Amazing Race 30, 4th Place)

Going into TAR30, I was absolutely dreading these two, if only because the show has a long history of casting M/M teams in the vein of buddies that work together, who wind up eating a ton of screentime because theyre able to easily overcome the highly-physical aspects of the competition, and their personalities are deemed interesting by the editors. So imagine my surprise when I didnt outright hate Alex & Conor. They werent shoved to the front and center of the cast (mainly due to the overall quality of the cast as a whole), and this allowed them to serve as genuine and likable buddies.

It certainly helped that, unlike a lot of the aforementioned awful M/M teams, these two werent interchangeable. Alex was the hyper-competent one, and youll notice that whenever he was put in charge of a task, the team wound up dominating. But Conor? Conor was incompetent in the best way possible. He wasnt COMPLETELY bumbling, but whenever he was the face of a task, it seemed like he found a way to completely fuck it up. And that dynamic of competence/incompetence becomes all the more enjoyable when you throw in the backstory of Conor sleeping on Alexs couch cause hes essentially homeless (hence Alex wanting to win to get him the fuck out of his house.)

Overall, these two were just really likable and fun characters, and after a full season of Matt & Redmond (mainly Redmond) being awful in TAR29, it was such a shock that I finished the final four leg feeling BAD that a similarly alpha-adjacent M/M team got eliminated.
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Coco
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Dash
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Trading for Sadness/Gothel.
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Shireen
Dejah
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UNSAFE:
*Allura (Trapt)
*Aurora (Sleeping Beauty)
*Bonibel Bubblegum (Adventure Time)
*Camilla (Fire Emblem)
*Celica (Fire Emblem)
*Daisy (Super Mario)
*Dejah Thoris (John Carter)
*Elise (Fire Emblem)
Farah (Prince of Persia)
*Hildegard von Krone (Soulcalibur)
*Kumatora (Mother 3)
*Marle (Chrono Trigger)
*Neytiri Te Tskaha Mo'at'ite (Avatar)
*Noa (Legend of Legaia)
*Odette (Swan Lake)
*Rozalin (Disgaea)
*Sailor Moon (Sailor Moon)
She-ra (She-ra: Princesses of Power)
*Shireen Baratheon (Game of Thrones)
*Shuri (Marvel Comics)
*Star Butterfly (Star vs. the Forces of Evil)
Starfire (DC Comics)
*Tess Greymane (World of Warcraft)
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Wow, good thing I was early. Because I completely forgot the character I was planning on saving.
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Dejah
Starfire
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Dory
Gothel
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T2 is definitely too high.
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Vanellope
Luna
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Sadness
Kronk
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Neytiri
Sally
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8:09:03

Nani
Lilo
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