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24. Henry & Evan (The Amazing Race 30, 2nd Place)

Were at the top 25 of my list and were only JUST eliminating the first member of TAR30s final five, which I think says a lot about the quality of the season overall. And really, the only reason Henry & Evan even rank this low is just because they stand out as slightly more negative (and a little robotic) compared to how much I enjoyed the other four teams that surrounded them in the final five. They werent QUITE as fun, but they still had several fun moments that keep them high in my estimation.

So while most of the cast (or at least the competent cast) were champions in a physical sense, Henry & Evan were certainly cast to be mental champions as debaters fromI wanna say Yale? But this definitely set them apart from the rest of the cast, because they were a little bit arrogant and a little less social than the final three alliance formed by Jody/NASCAR/Skibots. I say them, but it was definitely more Evan than Henry. Thats the thing that SHOULD have propelled this team to greater heights. I LOVE couple dynamics on the Amazing Race where you have a dominant female personality (usually coming across as bitchy) and a beleaguered male partner. Flo & Zach, Vanck & Ashton, Brooke & Scottits just a fun inversion of typical gender roles.

The thing is that Evan wasnt QUITE good enough as an individual character to really get me on her side, and Henry was a bit too flat in his personality for me to enjoy him as a henpecked boyfriend. I can totally buy these two being aloof and distant from the rest of the cast, to the point where they got U-Turned out of spite rather than out of strategy, but they just werent quite over-the-top enough for me to get fully onboard with them. That being said, they definitely had their moments. I felt bad for them in episode two when they got stuck in the bullshit of the head-to-head twist, and when they DID get U-Turned, it allowed Evan to become a bit feistier and aggressive towards the other teams. Thats always appreciated.

Finally, I said it before and Ill say it again. There is a scene during the final roadblock where Henry HAS the right answer and all he needs to do is call the judge over and he wins a million dollars with his girlfriend. And he instead fucks up the puzzle again and gets it wrong. And I just wish there was a camera in his/Evans room at that moment to capture to slow turn of her head and the ensuing death glare when she realizes that he cost her all that money. Poor Henry, even after the race, I cant imagine that ending well for him.
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25. Mike Zahalsky (Survivor: Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustlers 5th Place)

Mike is a weird one for me, because on paper, he should fit the same kind of niche that Ryan filled on the Hustler Tribe. He was clearly the outlier on a tribe made up of young, pretty girls, Cole, and Joe. And this instantly made him into this dorky outcast who was quirky and Woody Allen-esque, always hovering between being safe and being in danger, depending on just how much sway Joe really had over the rest of the tribe. As a result, Mike kinda became this doofus background character for most of the pre-merge, only really rising up when he became the swing vote between showmance Cole/Jessica and fan favorites Ben/Lauren.

Post-merge though, by sheer virtue of being SUCH a dork, Mike managed to avoid most of the anti-Healer sentiment, outlasting Jessica, Desi, Cole and Joe while ingratiating himself within the opposition alliance just a little bit. Sure, he burned his idol in an outright confusing situation, but then he eventually LITERALLY burned Laurens idol that she gave to him as a sign of good faith. Also, despite their early rivalry, Mike eventually found common ground with Joe as fellow outsiders, and they became the Coconuts alliance, which was cute in its own way. Overall, Mike was a friendly guy with a quirky personality, and he never got so much screen time as to become an overbearing character. But in the grand scheme of HHH, he just wasnt quite memorable enough to earn a higher placement.
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Also surprised that you liked Kellyn enough for a top ten spot.
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I'm surprised Desiree was your 50. I thought it'd be Simone.
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Mewtwo59 posted...

Chris isn't an obvious returnee?

While production has made some questionable returnee choices like Brad Culpepper in recent years, for the most part, I feel like they're never lacking in potential male All-Stars. A thirteenth boot from an unpopular season isn't necessarily a lock, no matter how big of a character he was.
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In terms of who I WANT to win:

Angelina > Gabby > Kara > Christian (I can't justify ranking Alison over him, no matter how much I'm rooting for a female winner) > Alison > Davie > Nick > Mike
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Naye745 posted...

kellyn, stephanie, and chris noble are the three people (outside of the obvious dom and wendell) who i'd most want to see back from ghost island, fwiw

Yeah, that cast is fucking DIRE in terms of personalities worth watching.
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Happy about that, but still hoping for my 39 to hit soon.
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MetalmindStats posted...

...But no one came.

That's the NEXT picture in the series.
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ninkendo posted...

Now I want fanart of the two of you holding

^ Artist's intepretation of ExTha and MWC right now.
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In a more serious manner, my view on it is this:

The Terminator goes back in time to kill Sarah Connor specifically because she's destined to give birth to John Connor, the man that leads the rebellion against them.

John Connor sends Kyle Reese back in time to protect Sarah Connor.

Kyle Reese eventually goes through a harrowing experience with Sarah, and through that shared experience, they have sex, with Reese impregnating Sarah with John.

These are the events of the plot. I'm not talking about setting of scene or anything like that. These are just the three major events that set the scene in question. Here is why the actual sex HAD to be shown:

1. If you change the plot so Reese is NOT the father of John Connor, then the story loses a ton of emotional weight. Then you have Sarah getting pregnant via some random guy, which is extremely unsatisfying for the audience. Therefore, you have to leave Reese as the father.

2. If you don't show them having sex at ALL, and Sarah just shows up pregnant at the end of the movie, it feels like a cop-out and the audience is disappointed that the movie threw some random shit in like a Shyamalan plot twist.

3. If you show the aftermath, like maybe Sarah buttoning her shirt, then the sex feels cheap...like it was JUST a quick one and done with no emotional impact whatsoever.

Because of these three things, showing Reese (a traumatized war veteran) and Sarah (the mother of the man who'll save humanity) having sex to create John Connor carries a great deal more emotional weight than any other option would.
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Reese was poking Sarah in an effort to knock her up, you can't exactly do that offscreen.
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Must've missed her.
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Big Brother 20:

???. Sam Bledsoe
???. Angie "Rockstar" Layton
???. Kaitlyn Herman
4. Bayleigh Dayton
5. Rachel Swindler
6. Haleigh Broucher
7. Winston Hines
8. Kaycee Clarke
9. Steve Arienta
10. Scottie Salton
11. Chris "Swaggy C" Williams
12. Faysal Shafaat
13. Tyler Crispen
14. Angela Rummans
15. Brett Robinson
16. JC Mounduix

Celebrity Big Brother 1:

???. Ariadna Gutierrez
???. Omarosa Manigault
???. Brandi Glanville
???. Metta World Peace
5. Shannon Elizabeth
6. Keshia Knight Pulliam
7. Chuck Liddell
8. Marissa Janey Winokur
9. Mark McGrath
10. Ross Mathews
11. James Maslow

Survivor: Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustlers:

???. Chrissy Hofbeck
???. Devon Pinto
???. Mike Zahalsky
???. Ashley Nolan
???. Lauren Rimmer
???. Cole Medders
???. Jessica Johnston
???. Alan Ball
???. Simone Nguyen
10. Joe Mena
11. Patrick Bolton
12. Ali Elliott
13. Desi Williams
14. JP Hilsabeck
15. Roark Luskin
16. Katrina Radke
17. Ryan Ulrich
18. Ben Driebergen

Survivor: Ghost Island:

???. Chris Noble
???. Stephanie Johnson
3. Kellyn Bechtold
4. Desiree Afuye
5. Wendell Holland, Jr.
6. James Lim
7. Jacob Derwin
8. Domenick Abbate
9. Donathan Hurley
10. Angela Perkins
11. Chelsea Townsend
12. Morgan Ricke
13. Stephanie Gonzalez
14. Libby Vincek
15. Sebastian Noel
16. Brendan Shapiro
17. Bradley Kleihege
18. Jenna Bowman
19. Laurel Johnson
20. Michael Yerger

The Amazing Race 30:

???. Cody & Jessica
???. Henry & Evan
???. Kristi & Jen
???. Alex & Conor
???. Lucas & Brittany
???. Cedric & Shawn
???. April & Sarah
8. Eric & Daniel
9. Joey & Tim
10. Trevor & Chris
11. Dessie & Kayla
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26. Joe Mena (Survivor: Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustler, 8th Place)
27. Bayleigh Dayton (Big Brother 20, 11th Place)
28. Rachel Swindler (Big Brother 20, 12th Place)
29. Shannon Elizabeth (Celebrity Big Brother 1, 9th Place)
30. Kellyn Bechtold (Survivor: Ghost Island, 7th Place)
31. Desiree Afuye (Survivor: Ghost Island, 11th Place)
32. Wendall Holland, Jr. (Survivor: Ghost Island, 1st Place)
33. James Lim (Survivor: Ghost Island, 15th Place)
34. Jacob Derwin (Survivor: Ghost Island, 19th Place)
35. Patrick Bolton (Survivor: Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustler, 16th Place)
36. Haleigh Broucher (Big Brother 20, 7th Place)
37. Keshia Knight Pulliam (Celebrity Big Brother 1, 10th Place)
38. Domenick Abbate (Survivor: Ghost Island, 2nd Place)
39. Winston Hines (Big Brother 20, 14th Place)
40. Donathan Hurley (Survivor: Ghost Island, 5th Place)
41. Eric & Daniel (The Amazing Race 30, 6th Place)
42. Ali Elliott (Survivor: Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustler, 13th Place)
43. Desi Williams (Survivor: Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustler, 11th Place)
44. Kaycee Clark (Big Brother 20, 1st Place)
45. Angela Perkins (Survivor: Ghost Island, 4th Place)
46. Chelsea Townsend (Survivor: Ghost Island, 8th Place)
47. Morgan Ricke (Survivor: Ghost Island, 18th Place)
48. Stephanie Gonzalez (Survivor: Ghost Island, 20th Place)
49. Joey & Tim (The Amazing Race 30, 8th Place)
50. Trevor & Chris (The Amazing Race 30, 7th Place)
51. JP Hilsabeck (Survivor: Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustler, 9th Place)
52. Roark Luskin (Survivor: Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustler, 14th Place)
53. Libby Vincek (Survivor: Ghost Island, 12th Place)
54. Sebastian Noel (Survivor: Ghost Island, 6th Place)
55. Brendan Shapiro (Survivor: Ghost Island, 17th Place)
56. Steve Arienta (Big Brother 20, 16th Place)
57. Dessie & Kayla (The Amazing Race 30, 11th Place)
58. Chuck Liddell (Celebrity Big Brother 1, 11th Place)
59. Katrina Radke (Survivor: Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustler, 18th Place)
60. Scottie Salton (Big Brother 20, 8th Place)
61. Chris "Swaggy C" Williams (Big Brother 20, 15th Place)
62. Marissa Janet Winokur (Celebrity Big Brother 1, 1st Place)
63. Bradley Kleihege (Survivor: Ghost Island, 14th Place)
64. Faysal Shafaat (Big Brother 20, 9th Place)
65. Jenna Bowman (Survivor: Ghost Island, 10th Place)
66. Mark McGrath (Celebrity Big Brother 1, 4th Place)
67. Laurel Johnson (Survivor: Ghost Island, 3rd Place)
68. Michael Yerger (Survivor: Ghost Island, 9th Place)
69. Ross Mathews (Celebrity Big Brother 1, 2nd Place)
70. Tyler Crispen (Big Brother 20, 2nd Place)
71. Angela Rummans (Big Brother 20, 4th Place)
72. James Maslow (Celebrity Big Brother 1, 6th Place)
73. Ryan Ulrich (Survivor: Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustler, 3rd Place)
74. Brett Robinson (Big Brother 20, 6th Place)
75. Ben Driebergen (Survivor: Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustler, 1st Place)
76. JC Mounduix (Big Brother 20, 3rd Place)
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Mostly just getting to the top 25...


26. Joe Mena (Survivor: Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustlers, 8th Place)

Joe is an interesting case for me, because I feel like, IF hed ever been in a position of power (outside of episode four), I probably wouldnt like him or appreciate him at all. Basically, Joe was cast to be the second coming of Tony Vlachos (well, THIRD, since Tony himself was the second coming of Tony in Game Changers), and he lived up to that reputation. Found an idol early on, stirred up shit on his original tribe (although its entirely possible he pissed them off to put a target on his back). And when he successfully played his idol in episode 4 (even though it was impossible NOT to successfully play it, given the tiebreaker rules), he was very Tony-esque with his whole post-idol performance (I read your EYES, baby girl).

However, what worked with Joe is that, come the merge, he was down in numbers and burned his idol the round Jessica got voted out. And thats where a character like Joe works best, as a thorn in the side of a majority alliance. Somehow, he managed to outlast Desi and Cole to stick it out with Mike as one of the last Healers standing, and at that point, he began pushing his anti-Ben narrative hard. He trolled Ben about his honesty as a marine, and it led to some humanizing of Ben (who bordered on being too deified for his military service.)

Better than that though, was the two-episode downfall of Joe, because the rest of the tribe built him up so much, like he finally had a chance, only to tear him down in one fell swoop. He survived the final nine by a timely flip against JP, and he thought he was on top of the world, getting cocky about how Ben was next. And Ben played the role of a betrayed bottom-feederRIGHT up until Joe got blindsided in a 4-2-2 split. So rarely do we get the cocky, overplaying mastermind taken out by some high-level gameplay in its own right. And I loved it. Of course, he then led the charge to reward Ben for finding idols and making firebut you cant win em all, can you?
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27. Bayleigh Dayton (Big Brother 20, 11th Place)

I fully admit that Bayleigh has some definite problems as a character. She was loud and aggressive and made some major fuck-ups that she never really had the good grace to acknowledge. And as much as I hate JC, I fully admit that her reaction to him using the N-word didnt paint her in a very good light (and allowed Level 6 fans to shit on her and call her a bigot while ignoring JCs blatantly awful tendencies.) I also find her relationship with Swaggy to be exceptionally disturbing. Apparently he DID get her pregnant, but she had a miscarriageand then he proposed to her after they knew each other for less than a month, and she accepted on live television. Yeaaaaaaahno.

All that being said, the season NEEDED someone like Bayleigh. Like, Angela sucked because she was cast to be this hot, bitchy girl and she was mainly just a high school mean girl, talking shit behind peoples backs. Bayleigh was the villainous character Angela SHOULD have been. She started out the season bitching out Tyler for playing strategically in the opening HoH competition (and trying to browbeat him into doing what she wanted that first week.) She also got in good with Swaggy, who treated her like his plus one, despite not actually including her in his alliance. But then when he got booted in week two, Bayleigh needed to regroup and assess the situation, which she didright up until she earned the third power app.

Now, Bayleigh played DECENTLY for the few weeks after Swaggy left. It was a lot like Jessica in the immediate aftermath of Codys eviction. But then she won a crapshoot HoH competition, and she got perhaps the biggest case of HoHitis of the season. She wanted Brett gone, she hated Brett, and she held court in her HoH room, browbeating FOUTTE into obeying her every whim. She put up a pawn that she actually wanted to work with, because she wanted to work with Kaycee/Angela MORE, and spilled a ton of information to Rachel unnecessarily, which got around to the rest of Level 6 (keep in mind, even FOUTTE didnt know the information Bayleigh was spilling.)

So we get to week 6, and Angela wins HoH. Bayleigh, so desperate to be accepted into the cool kids alliance, vows not to hurt Angelas week in any way, so she doesnt use her power app (when she really needed to, and perhaps MIGHT have, if not for the Hacker comp being stupidly added into the season.) The plan is in place to backdoor Bayleigh, and it goes off without a hitch after everyone blames her for the Hacker nomination. Bayleigh breaks down of course (and I should also point out that this is the week where she acused Rockstar of betraying the alliance to save Brettwhich is fucking hilarious to me and needed to be said), and again, she guilts Haleigh into coming clean about her Hacker win.

This leads to one of the ONLY real fights and dramatic moments of the season, where Bayleigh gets so incensed by Tyler lying (and while I dont think he wasthe way he worded his pitch definitely made it seem like he was) that she starts shrieking and getting higher and higher pitched until she bleeds from the mouth. It was awesome and hilarious, and the sliding door slam just added to the comedy. From that point on though, Bayleighs in the jury house, where she was able to stew and marinate in her bitterness, and it led to her casting one of the deciding votes against Tyler, which I love. After bitching about FOUTTE all season long, it brings me so much joy to see the fans golden boy taken out by that same, bitter, emotional alliance. Bayleigh as the jury foreman did that, and it was great.
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Suprak the Stud posted...

Oh, and Eerie, Indiana. Home of the famous child sized Tupperware.

Quality reference here.
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28. Rachel Swindler (Big Brother 20, 12th Place)

Of Level 6, Rachel was really the only one who was thoroughly good as a character by the time she got evicted. And even then, she spent the first four weeks as so much of a background character that she got the crap app to have Bretts grandmother yell at her for 24 hours. But she managed to elevate herself to stardom with a virtuoso performance in that final week of her game. She took the position Winston found himself in, and while he was slightly paranoid, he was still relatively calm and rationalRachel did not do that. And it made her all the better as a character.

SoBayleigh wins HoH and wants to put Rachel up as a pawn. Rachel is nervous about this, and understandably so, because she knows what happened to the pawn when Winston was put up against Brett. But at least she manages to guilt Bayleigh into telling her about her power app, right? AND Bayleigh trusts her enough to reveal that she thinks Tyler is trying to turn against Angela. This is Rachels downfall, unfortunately. Shes paranoid, shes nervous, and shes worried that Tyler is playing her, so she tells Angela what Bayleigh told her. And despite the fact that Rachel has been reliable up until that point, suddenly she becomes public enemy number one for Level 6, because Tyler is a dick and Angela is a bitch.

For the rest of the week, Rachels paranoid ass is stuck on the block, unaware that shes going home over Brett until Julie calls her name. And she just strides out of the house in the second-best exist I can recall (the first being Cody stomping over the table and marching out without saying anything to anyone). Shes so shellshocked that Julie had to pretty much drag answers out of her during the post-eviction interview, and everything culminates in her having a near-breakdown when she realizes that the people she trusted the most were the ones who stabbed her in the back. Oh yeah, and What the fuck is wrong with Angela? after that awful goodbye message.

That one week was more entertaining than anything the entire rest of Level 6 did all season long, and it made me wish we got more of Rachel, if only to spice up a bland alliance.
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And rounding out the string of Ghost Island eliminations (while simultaneously putting me up to the point in my list where I no longer have any write-ups already posted because I've passed the highest ranking that darkx ranked low)...


30. Kellyn Bechtold (Survivor: Ghost Island, 7th Place)

Kellyn is like one of those jokes where you tell it once and kinda laugh, tell it again and nothing, tell it a third time, and you get annoyed. But then after a certain point, the joke keeps getting repeated over and over so much that it loops back around to being hilarious. Thats Kellyns story in a nutshell. So this season was pretty much Dom/Wendell in their bromance, Laurel/Donathan in their alliance, Michael representing Malolo, and Kellyn representing the non-Dom/Wendell faction of Naviti. Seriously, those six were pretty much the only relevant characters of the season, plus Chris, who was off in his own world.

The problem with Kellyn at first was that her storyling episode after episode was Im sticking Naviti strong! And while yes, thats smart gameplay and you WANT to stick true to your alliance (especially if youre comfortably in the majority), its boring to watchat least when the personalities are bland. So at the start of the season, Kellyn was kinda quirky (she was Ghost Islands equivalent of an Aubry or a Hannah), but she quickly wore on me, especially as Naviti dominated the tribe swaps and picked off all the interesting Malolos in favor of Michael, Jenna and Libby. But at a certain point, my hatred for Kellyn shifted and did a complete 180.

In a lot of ways, Kellyn is like Donathan, in that the season was SO MUCH a boring slog towards the inevitable Dom/Wendell/Laurel end game that just having someone oppose them made me feel happier. But unlike Donathan, who had hints of BIG MOVEZ style gameplay in his opposition, Kellyn felt far more realistic. From the Libby boot onward, Kellyn became this paranoid force, constantly shrieking and trying to get her way strategically, because she saw that train coming, but just couldnt get her car started and off the tracks. The tears, the emotions, and the meltdowns were hilarious at a point in the season where you had bland Laurel, bland Sebastian, and bland Angela marching in lock step behind the dominant alpha males.

Ultimately, Kellyn was a light of personality during a dingy part of the season, and she went on to lead the jury in fighting back against Domenicks I played the hardest, therefore I was the best narrative. She wasnt a great character the whole season, but she was good enough to warrant a DECENT placement on this list.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

he sucked as a president.

i'll take the moderation.

Credit to Scarlet for this, but how can you criticize Bush Sr. like that? You have to give him three terms as president before making a judgement on his presidency.
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StifledSilence posted...

Inviso posted...

Okay, so if people are gonna complain about Aliens beating Alien...I'm DEFINITELY gonna complain about T2 beating the original Terminator. Like...FUCK.

In both cases, the sequel is superior. Correct list is correct.

T2 has an awful main character, which is FAR more detrimental to the film than the coolness of the T-1000 can offset.
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Okay, so if people are gonna complain about Aliens beating Alien...I'm DEFINITELY gonna complain about T2 beating the original Terminator. Like...FUCK.
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17/30 on adult
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Corrik posted...

George Bush has died. What a sad day.

Fuck. Even though I was still only a baby when he was in office, he's still the only president in my lifetime who won on his ability to govern, rather than just charisma winning a popularity contest. Plus, he did what needed to be done (raising taxes) even when it wasn't popular.
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31. Desiree Afuye (Survivor: Ghost Island, 11th Place)

I think that, more than anyone in Ghost Island, Desiree got absolutely fucked over by the editors. In a cast devoid of personality, Des had a spark to her. She had some fire in her eyes and seemed willing to speak her mind. Hell, thats what got her voted out: she tried to flip the script on the dominant majority. Unfortunately, the editors needed the audience to know just how skillfully Dom and Wendell were running the show, so anything not expressly dedicated to furthering their narrative was left on the cutting room floor. I have no doubt that there are a plethora of Des confessionals we lost out on, and are worse off for not having heard.

But yeah, Desirees boot episode, while part of the inevitable slog towards a Wendell or Domenick victory, still serves to spice up this dull season just a little bit. For starters, you have Des coming off the Chris blindside, where she voted in the minority and realized she was on the outs with Naviti. So she gets it in her mind to pick up the Malolos and try to flipagainst Kellyn. This is where I think the editors did their worst injustice. Des and Kellyn were on a tribe together the entire pre-merge, through two swaps. They clearly had a friendship, so we should CARE that Des wanted to betray her ally.

But yeah, Des decided to target Kellyn for no reason other than BIG MOVEZ, and honestly? For as much fun as Des personality was, Im glad she got got. It always brings me joy to see the BIG MOVEZ for the sake of BIG MOVEZ players fall flat on their face. Zeke in two seasons, Ciera, Stephen, Spencer in Cambodia. I just want Survivor to go back to the time when blindsides were actually EXCITING and not just EXPECTED every single episode. And if players are punished for making unnecessary moves for the sake of their rsums, then GOOD. It sucks that Des had to be a sacrifice for this, but still, GOOD.
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So the Mueller investigation is hitting hard and fast now, huh?
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Dejah
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Update please?
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eaedwards6400 posted...

We can't ask who we think will win?

Apparently not.
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Nick sucks.
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/77252607
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Can do!
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Because there needs to be a poll, but apparently we can't ask who we all think will win.
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32. Wendell Holland (Survivor: Ghost Island, 1st Place)

With the sole exception of HHH, in terms of vote-based reality shows, this was the year of the bitter jury. Ghost Island, Celebrity Big Brother, and Big Brother 20 all featured a dominant mastermind player that ran the season and made it all the way to the finals, only to lose to their less strategic second-in-command. And in all three instances, I LOVED it. Sure, Marissa still sucked, but at least she wasnt ROSS. Sure, Kaycee was the best option of a bad batch, but at least she wasnt TYLER. But in the case of one Wendell Holland, Jr.hes the only one of the three winners that I currently like for who he is, not just because he beat Domenick in the finals. I mean, it helps that I dont currently hate Domenick (well see how Im feeling a few years down the line, when the feeling of the season was so boring that anyone with a personality was a welcome addition wears off like it did in Redemption Island), but Wendell was fine in his own right.

As it stands, Wendell was a nice, calm, rational guy who was friendly with most of the people around camp and played a strong social game. He used his furniture-building know-how to craft comforts around camp that made a particularly dreary season all the more amenable for his fellow tribe mates. While Domenick was the face of their alliance, running around and making fake idols and whatnot, Wendell bounced ideas off him and found an idol of his very own. What can I say, I enjoyed the Domenick/Wendell bromance and found their friendly rivalry enjoyable to watch. The ONE decent aspect of the endgame was that they both made it to the finals, so we got that tie vote at the very end, which at least give a blip of a pulse to this lifeless season.

So ultimately, Wendell was a fine winner, and though he had his moments in the middle of the season where his dominance (alongside Domenick) became a bit overbearing, it was never SO stifling that it turned me against him outright. Was he the best character of the season? Of course not. He was far too normal. But he was a completely satisfying winner at the very least.
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eaedwards6400 posted...

And that's what makes them relatable...

Based off our interactions in these topics, do you think you would enjoy watching me on Survivor? I sure as hell think I'd be annoying as FUCK on Survivor, and I don't like watching "relatable" versions of myself on the show in the form of your standard nerd.
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Yeah, two AMAZING episodes tonight. This season is hands down the best since Kaoh Rong. It's not QUITE Kaoh Rong levels, but it's way fucking up there.
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eaedwards6400 posted...

Are you fucking kidding me?! You are so inconsistent it is baffling! People have done less than Christian does and it has pissed you off to no end. God, I need a new place to talk about Survivor.

Christian is like Coach or Yau-Man or Richard. He's just naturally goofy. Plus, the thing that normally irritates me about his archetype is people like Ryan U. or Cochran, where so much of their goofiness comes in the form of obnoxious self-deprecation that plays them up as a LOSER rather than just a NERD.
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