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I loved MVP in TNA though
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Yay I got into a respectful disagreement with MVP on Twitter about the value of the Observer
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It was after he got busted for steroids and came back smaller

Meanwhile Hunters still roided to the gills
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Lopen posted...

Hey we managed to bring Roman's overness into it at least

I stand by the idea that if Roman was in Chris Masters shape he might actually be over by now

They had Triple H make fun of Chris Masterss body on TV too!
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Pool report: Trump repeated his majestic phrasing on his failure to get his health care plan passed, saying, "We actually got rid of Obamacare except for one vote."

The power of positivity
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Have a laugh
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Well if that discussion didnt happen, there would be no posts

So it is what it is
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Im hoping the star rating system can finally be laid to rest! Professional wrestling is performance art and with art it is subjective. To all the men and women taking to risk to entertain you are all 5 stars in my opinion!!!!

Maybe the dumbest take to come out of today

Art is subjective so we shouldnt give our subjective ratings
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Something I just realized about this whole Dave debacle

Nobody cares about Alvarez

Hes the one that always STARTS these she looks horrible! discussions
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Speaking of vanity, I somehow missed this exchange between Dave and former Beautiful Person Velvet Sky from days ago

https://twitter.com/velvelholler/status/1027926633200721921?s=21

No Dave, Spike canceled because they got tired of Dixie Carters shit. Shes the one who ruined TNA for all of us. They may have not been crazy about Russo, but Dixie is to blame.

Never heard someone from TNA get that nasty about Dixie
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TheRock1525 posted...

Vain people are generally not lacking in self confidence, I doubt they need people to tell them how great they look.

I miss the wrestling trope of the vain person being extremely shook by some minor, temporary shit a babyface does to their appearance
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Practically everyone in Western society cares too much about what other people think of them, and that affects how they manage their appearance.

It shouldnt be that way

The end
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OoT has enemies that require you to be good at the combat but it does take a long time to reach them
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I can see how if you dont enjoy the Z-targeting system that you would hate how Ocarina plays

Not sure what else you might mean by gameplay holding you back from wanting to explore. Did Links movement feel off to you?

EDIT: And yeah the combat is what, in theory, elevates OoT above those others in a historical sense
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Vita lives
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Lopen posted...

Maybe it was having played more PC games at the time or maybe it was just a lack of appreciation due to not finding the gameplay fun to the point it ruined enjoyment from exploration but yeah.

What games were doing quality real-time 3D combat on PC pre-98? Quake?

...is there combat in Myst? <_<
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It was just an example about how appreciating something being groundbreaking and ambitious for the time doesnt necessary mean (or preclude) that your love of it is just nostalgia.
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Q: Which game has the best Zelda?

...is everyone gonna say Wind Waker?
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I think the entry that most benefits from nostslgia, and Im guilty of this as well, is Links Awakening.

I havent played the GB Zeldas in so long, but I reflexively rank it higher than the Oracles and I dont really know why.

Damn you Wind Fish
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Lopen posted...

If you want the game I think is probably the one that benefits from nostalgia the most it has to be Ocarina of Time

I get what youre saying, but I think theres a difference between pure nostalgia and acknowledging a groundbreaking game.

Take Super Mario Bros for example. Not many would say, today, that its the best Mario game, but on a level as compared against its contemporaries it is magical even beyond nostalgia. It redefined a genre, and that definition holds to this day.

I heard a quote recently that stuck with me: Asking what is the best video game ever made is always going to lead to a very subjective response, but on the release day of Super Mario Bros. on September 13, 1985, it was as close to objective as it ever got.

Same with OoT for establishing the language of the 3D adventure. Its framework, built from scratch, is still the standard today. At the time there was NOTHING like it.
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1.) Breath of the Wild
2.) Majoras Mask
3.) A Link to the Past
4.) Links Awakening
5.) Ocarina of Time
6.) Legend of Zelda
7.) Oracle of Ages/Seasons
8.) The Wind Waker
9.) Twilight Princess
10.) Adventure of Link
11.) The Minish Cap
12.) Phantom Hourglass
13.) Four Swords Adventures
14.) Spirit Tracks
15.) Four Swords (Anniversary)

Havent played
Skyward Sword
A Link Between Worlds
Tri-Force Heroes

EDIT: I should add that all of those rankings except FS are based on the original versions, not HD/3D remakes which may change the list once Ive played them
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Lopen posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

How about 610 ? <_<

If he's equal to or shorter than guys he wrestles on a semi-regular basis he doesn't draw.

If you wanna talk shoe lifts or whatever I don't wanna get into that-- you know what I mean.

I was just teasing since that was Andres true height in his prime
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How about 610 ? <_<
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ShatteredElysium posted...

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Lopen posted...

StealThisSheen posted...

2. 50 lbs of what? What if most of it is muscle and it in fact improves her in ring performance?

This is a stupid technicality argument you're trying to make to no relevant end because obviously no one is going to be body shamed for becoming a mountain of muscle

Are you sure about that? You don't think a woman would be?

I think they potentially would be. I also don't think its realistically possible for a women of WWE frame to put on 50lbs of muscle though.

Closest example would be...Kaitlyn?
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Lopen posted...

Is it body shaming to say that elite Basketball players are by and large tall for a reason? Wrestling is just a less obviously seen version of how height can help you succeed.

Basketball tends to be a meritocracy at least.

Wrestling is...not that, as Daniel Bryan demonstrated.
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Where do you fall on body shaming wrestlers for their height?
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This has gotten so far upfield into the realm of the absurd thought experiments

At the core of it all, the way the original quote from Dave was INTERPRETED (Peyton Royce needs to lose weight to be attractive enough to stand out in WWE) would in fact be unacceptable body shaming if that was what the comment was intended to say.

Agreed?
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Do you think this is in part why Roman isnt catching on?
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Thats a very unique take to digest
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Also it seems like our minds will be pretty disposable once computers becomes more inventive and creative than we could ever dream of
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SmartMuffin posted...

the human mind is the most valuable resource ever to exist

we need more of them

I dont understand this logic at all

Especially if you dont support mandatory education!
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Still shocked they didnt get Viper/Piper Niven for NXT UK

But maybe I shouldnt be
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SmartMuffin posted...

I think you missed the point

No I didn't. He basically said "This is a double standard true, but I should have known that and just shut up." Which is kind of bullshit.

Okay so you didnt miss the point, you just have an overly simple take on that point
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Like theres no way youre gonna find 20 cruiserweights in the world better than WALTER. No way.
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Lopen posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

Saying the 20 best 200 pounders are better than the 20 best 300 pounders might be true, sure.

And you're going to claim that that's all larger sample size, even if I would reasonably argue all 20 of the top 20 200 lbers are better than the number one 300 lber?

Now THAT is a tough argument
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SmartMuffin posted...

The way to deal with double standards is to fight them, not surrender to them.

I think you missed the point
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Saying the 20 best 200 pounders are better than the 20 best 300 pounders might be true, sure.
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Daves statement from the Board (dont go there)

https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/97lhoj/dave_meltzers_comments_on_the_won_board_about_the/?st=JKVT2NRQ&sh=4ed7889c
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Lopen posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

There are many many many more bad 200lb wrestlers than good ones

The percentage of passable 200 lbers is much higher than the percentage of passable 300 lbers

I would want more evidence than your word. Thats not readily apparent to me
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There are many many many more bad 200lb wrestlers than good ones
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Ultimately the moral here is that Dave needs to stop body shaming and induct Big Daddy to the HoF
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Sanity needs a visit from the Fashion Police
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Not engaging, in case anyone is sighing that Im about to derail the topic
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I dont keep track but she leapt to mind
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NBIceman posted...

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Lopen posted...

Not necessarily. When you're heavier your balance is inherently not as good than it would be when you're light, which definitely factors into how well you can drop or throw people.

This is not true to any kind of noticeable degree unless you're absolutely comically obese

You're only going to have noticeable balance issues if you rapidly lose or gain weight

Eh. When you're doing something as hyper-athletic as pro wrestling, it probably doesn't take too many excess pounds to make a difference in ability.

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To be fair, some of those comments in the Moolah video package felt like they were edited in from a documentary about someone else <_<
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https://twitter.com/gambakufu/status/1029860293785120769?s=21

Imagine working for a company owned by an accused rapist and staffed by genuinely terrible human beings and getting outraged because a fanzine writer with some definite social development issues phrased something badly

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Ronda
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Because I'm a mad man, I transcribed the entire Dave and Bryan talk about Peyton. Here it is, from start to finish:

For reference, if anyone wants it
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voltch posted...

Has Vince ever asked Mae Young and Moolah to get implants?

Mae did wear false boobs at the Rumble!
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