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Mr Lasastryke posted...

also lol, you "triggered me so much"? i think you've seen me argue enough in the past 14 years to know what it looks like when i'm ACTUALLY triggered >_>

Sorry, I'm not very good with recognising emotions through text on the internet. But the fact you took it personally because you know a couple of people raised by single mums made me think that.

Mr Lasastryke posted...

pjbasis posted...

To be fair this sentence doesn't imply anything about causation vs. correlation either!

yeah, that sentence is fine. obviously vlado is also arguing stuff that goes way further than that, though.

Oh? What do I argue?
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Mozaik514 posted...

Its like Zack and Link send there girlfriends to a fight haha

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Jakyl25 posted...

I always assumed BABE BRAWL was just a misogynist power fantasy born out of insecurity

Like hes not rounding all those Babes up to lust at them, hes rounding them up to feel a position of marginal power over them. He is the Babemaster and they must Brawl for his amusement

lol
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pjbasis posted...

Vlado posted...

You do not understand the Bible.

Only Vlado can divine the will and intention of the bible

Pride you say? That's only a problem for the incorrect!

It is simply that Orthodox Christianity helps.

Monopoman posted...

0 ability to empathize with anyone but themselves or their very close family members and friends.

Yes, I will empathise with my family, friends, and my people above anyone else. That's how humanity has ALWAYS been. Problem?

Tom Bombadil posted...

Well you could be right there- I just don't really get why somebody would make a bajillion-topic vote-on-sexy-pictures series if they aren't coming from some sorta horny place. Like the old "I read playboy for the articles" line, or going to Hooters for the wings...it's not necessarily untrue, but I don't think it's too unfair to be suspicious of the line if you find a copy in the bathroom or something. Especially if it's a conservative Christian who wouldn't just randomly casually have something like that. In my experience we're pretty much all super repressed, so if we're being open about sexy stuff then something probably got weird.

I will not pretend I don't enjoy running BABE BRAWL and looking at photos of beautiful women, but you've probably noticed I don't even make matches every day... I often haven't got the time to. Therefore, it's not a particularly big part of my life.

And I don't see why a Christian needs to be "repressed," much less "super repressed." Granted, I wasn't raised in an extremely religious environment, it was mostly my own decision to follow Christ, which was not forced on me by my parents.

Lopen posted...

Vlado has always been very "deep" with his love for Tifa, doing long as hell write-ups about how she was so important to Cloud etc. If you wanna say that was bs and just say "nope, boobs" that's fine but he never played it that way that I recall.

The boobs help, one of the reasons I like Tifa is because she's beautiful. But there are many characters with bigger boobs who aren't anywhere near my favourite characters. Obviously, Tifa's personality is the decisive factor.

foolm0r0n posted...

Lopen posted...

If you wanna say that was bs and just say "nope, boobs" that's fine

That's what HE is saying. That it's just boobs, which are objectively attractive, big deal.

But he loves these fictional women. The real women, I can see him believing they are just like cars / objects / a pair of tits with legs. But the fictional ones are true love/lust. That's why a big part of his argument is that you can't lust after a fictional character cuz there's no chance you will act on it (oblivious that the lust itself is the sinful act).

Nonsense. I hope you're just trolling here because it's utter nonsense to believe that after you've interacted so much with me and you know my strong views on family. My view has never been anything else than that women are human beings, just like men are. The sexes are different, but that doesn't mean that women are equal to objects.
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foolm0r0n posted...

What mistake? He won everything. He got the president elected, he STILL controls the majority of the nationalist movement (including yourself), AND now he's out of the spotlight. Milo was discarded and discredited well after his use was up, when GG was converted to nationalism, just according to plan. There's a reason he used an unhinged guy who hated video games to lead GG. It made everything so easy.

Hahaha, wow. Imagine actually believing that. Bannon is not a puppetmaster. He is merely a catalyst. It's very funny how paranoid the left was of Bannon ever since Trump won. Evidently, even after he was booted, you still see ghosts. Bannon was successful in getting gamers to become right-wing not because of some devious plan... But because ANYTHING based on THE TRUTH, given enough traction (which Bannon did help provide), will succeed.

foolm0r0n posted...

Now he's just working with Breitbart. You don't read that do you?

I do.

foolm0r0n posted...

See above. You've fallen into a culture war and are just fighting for your team with no direction. You follow the leader and the mob. In a few years you will downplay your mistakes today as you have "matured and developed" into the next culture war.

Wrong. I follow nobody. That is the nature of people who have swallowed the redpill. As long as they are useful, I will throw my support behind causes that push the world closer to the truth, such as Trump, but that does not mean I am a devoted follower of Trump's lukewarm nationalism, for example. People like Viktor Orbn, Matteo Salvini and Rodrigo Duterte are much closer to my views than Trump.
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foolm0r0n posted...

Almost like what you perceive is our strength is the definitive source of our weakness

Oh really? I don't see the same problem in other countries with similar characteristics, like Russia and China.

Jakyl25 posted...

Huh. So I guess the migrant crisis hasnt changed European culture much

First, every European country is different. As a whole, none suffer from the divide seen in the US, Germany may be heading in that direction, but I think that problem will be mitigated soon enough. Germans still have enough time to save themselves, unlike the people of Britain or France, who no longer have bloodless paths to salvation.

foolm0r0n posted...

Women don't like games or whatever because ____
Black people are dumber because ____
Minorities are incompatible with white people because ____

etc

Statistics can tell us more about those things than any single opinion. Of course, if you redefine games to include phone/social network nonsense, you can come up with stats that women play more games than men. But you and I know very well what is a game and what isn't.

Do not get so frustrated by statistics, i.e. facts of life. Just because most women don't like games doesn't mean that there aren't women who are far more hardcore gamers than you and me. Similarly, just because most minorities fail to integrate in their host cultures does not mean that some of them aren't model citizens.

My point isn't to reject all women/minorities/whatever unconditionally. My point is to have the statistics, i.e. behavioural patterns in mind when considering politics and what possible future would bear the best fruits for humanity. While also giving a chance to those who show talent and strong intent to integrate - although ideally they would be using those talents to help their own countries become better.

I'll quote Dalai Lama:

Receive them, help them, educate them... but ultimately they should develop their own country.

foolm0r0n posted...

You talk about differences in ethnicity ONLY in service of nationalism even though they aren't related at all. It's not the ethnicity and biology that you care about, it's the legal borders that define a country. And you use this faux-biology to justify things like European ethnics deserving America, even though they are clearly invaders who have no ethnic history here.

That's not true. Borders change. Bulgaria has a bunch of territories taken by neighbours because we lost a bunch of wars in the last century. It's the peoples who matter, not their borders.

foolm0r0n posted...

It's not. You forget it instantly. You go back to saying that if Trump fails, the US is doomed. You are 100% bought in to Trump saviordom and you can't convince yourself otherwise. It has even turned your nationalism very US-centric and pro-Republican, despite your resistance. Like seriously, you're a fucking Republican. Think about that.

Is it a bad thing to be a Republican? Certainly better than a democrat... I'm not Republican, though, I'm a nationalist. My views are much further to the "right" than the average Republican. I think if Trump fails the US is doomed not because Trump is some kind of chosen one, but simply because if he fails (or if we were taken for a ruse and he never intended to fight the deep state in the first place), it's going back to the failed globalist regime before him. There is no strong figure on the right to replace Trump. And Bernie and friends are still too weak to take over the left (I am rooting for them, though).
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Yeah, all that research the paper cites is surely also a logical fallacy. Sorry I triggered you so much, but facts are facts.
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lol, how exactly are you "successful"? Your country is full of resources, you have a strong military with bases around the globe, a lot of creative talent, and yet you're drowning in debt, the middle class has all but evaporated, and the social divide is the biggest in the whole world. To be blessed with so much and achieve so little with it is the opposite of success.
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It's great you've met some exceptions, but anecdotes do not beat statistics. The data is clear:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4240051/
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

Vlado posted...

It's quite asinine to equate someone ranting about video games being evil with someone saying broken families generate evil.

what's the difference? thompson and you are just throwing these claims at me ("THE PROBLEM IS VIDEO GAMES!", "THE PROBLEM IS NON-TRADITIONAL FAMILIES!", respectively) without citing any sources whatsoever.

the only argument you're making is that most of these young criminals were raised by single moms. well, guess what, most of them played video games as well. elliot rodger talks plenty about playing games in his autobiography, even! it comes down to this:

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/false-cause

You still say I blame single mums while I already said where the blame actually lies. Whatever. You know in your heart that I am right, you just refuse to admit it.

A broken family will rarely produce a mentally healthier person than a healthy family.
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Yeah, okay, now read the rest of the post and give a proper response.

It's quite asinine to equate someone ranting about video games being evil with someone saying broken families generate evil.
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We should celebrate it with some great Symphony of the Night songs!


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Tom Bombadil posted...

it CAN be but that is fairly unlikely to be the intent of the original picture or a topic entitled "babe brawl"

Well, I have to admit that most people probably do not see the series as pure celebration of beauty as I do. But what can I do? Most people are weak. Not that I am particularly strong - for example, I am rather upset with myself for wasting over half an hour arguing in this topic instead of working, but that's the way things are.

Feminine curves, aside from being sexually attractive, are also quite aesthetically pleasing, so I think we can better appreciate a woman's beauty that way. In fact, if I could post nude photos, I would. Not pornography-tier nude, but you get my point.

Then again, I might be pushing a few people towards masturbation, which is a bit distressing, but then I can excuse myself with the fact that there's plenty of far worse material out there and if someone wants to see it, they will. Maybe a bit weak an excuse...

Tom Bombadil posted...

True, but I think there's an area between "she is pretty" and "I am actively attempting to commit adultery" and I suspect that my definition of lust falls a lot closer to the former than yours does and that might be where the disconnect is. I wouldn't cheat on my wife even if the women I found most "beautiful" started throwing themselves at me for some reason.

That is great. I respect you for that.

Tom Bombadil posted...

But maybe I linger a bit too long on that line of thinking, or look at some images I probably shouldn't. I don't think that's okay, and I would expect you to share that belief. If you don't, then that's kinda weird to me but Babe Brawl makes sense at least.

I don't share that belief, and I think that you're limiting yourself a tad more than what the Bible says. Your wife is probably happier for it, though, so it's all good. That I indulge in viewing such photos may be considered a weakness, but I think it's fine as long as it does not give me any crazy ideas.

Tom Bombadil posted...

yeah if that's the main objection then we are probably both wasting our breath here

man some third party should've pointed that out to me

The healthy family/society/nation is pretty much the foundation of my convictions.

Tom Bombadil posted...

it is hard admitting our own faults to ourselves and also to others!

True, true... I like to think I've come closer to admitting them in the last years. But I do not think I have fooled myself into believing that I run BABE BRAWL out of appreciation of beauty rather than lust.
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Kaleido Star.
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Espeon posted...

Youre anti-pornography because its easy to cut that out of your life so long as you can lust after and masturbate to non-pornographic material. But the second someone talks about censoring sexualized imagery, you get up in arms, because that would affect YOU.

This is not true at all. I do not need to masturbate because I am married. Pornography saps the energy and willpower of many men who would otherwise achieve a lot and improve society. Not to mention it gets in the way of them forming healthy relationships and eventually starting healthy families in which to raise healthy children who will themselves also improve mankind. Therefore, pornography must be curbed, hard.

Tom Bombadil posted...

MariaTaylor posted...

where was all the outrage when yoblazer ran best ass in gaming

he didn't try to turn it into some sort of weird moral highground

And I tried to turn BABE BRAWL into a moral highground? I merely pointed out that I myself run it out of aesthetic purposes. Because I love life, and it is incredible how much beauty can be found in life. Yes, I'm sure that sounds completely bogus to you, but that is what I think.

Tom Bombadil posted...

bout as often as I get in a Jesusfight with Vlado! This is the second time, I think.

It is. Please stop disheartening me. The only other vocal Christian on the board should not be this ignorant about the Bible.
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Tom Bombadil posted...

not really, but you'd have more of a leg to stand on with the aesthetic argument at least!

Really now? Women wearing bikinis is not aesthetic, and cannot be?

Tom Bombadil posted...

"You have already committed adultery with her in your heart" doesn't seem to back up this point. Or heck how about "you shall not covet your neighbor's wife"?

That is exactly what I was saying. How ignorant does one have to be not to understand that the Bible is not some random prescriptions, but its intent is to guide behaviour so that people can be saved.

Tom Bombadil posted...

Are you deluded enough to buy your own rationalization enough that you're not doing this because you find them sexually attractive? (and if so, doesn't that go against the whole red-blooded propagate the species thing?)

It is not a problem to find a woman beautiful (or "sexually attractive," as you insist on putting it). That does not mean you want to actually cheat on your wife with her.

Tom Bombadil posted...

I'm not actually saying you should go run ART BRAWL or whatever, I'm saying that I don't buy that you are doing this for "aesthetic" reasons.

If you want to believe you know me better than I know myself, whatever. If it's not that, I don't understand why you think I'd be lying.

Espeon posted...

Vlado, your idea of morality is whatever is convenient for YOU. Youre anti-abortion because, despite the Bible stating that a fetus isnt human life, its easy for you to claim a faux-moral high ground and demonize liberals as baby murderers. Youre homophobic because youre mostly straight, and the issues faced by the LGBTQ+ community will NEVER affect you in a negative way. Youre anti-pornography because its easy to cut that out of your life so long as you can lust after and masturbate to non-pornographic material. But the second someone talks about censoring sexualized imagery, you get up in arms, because that would affect YOU.

lol, this tirade is a really sad reflection of the mind of the American liberal... I have to say you are remarkable in that you are the most generic one on the whole board. Guys like Jakyl and Kenri are at least self-admitted commies. Foolmo is a member of a US minority who wants to believe he's libertarian. But you. You lack any real conviction. You just parrot liberal - and more accurately, US democratic party - talking points.

Espeon posted...

Youre anti-abortion because, despite the Bible stating that a fetus isnt human life, its easy for you to claim a faux-moral high ground and demonize liberals as baby murderers.

Wrong. I am anti-abortion because I love life, and abortion is the murder of an innocent soul.

Espeon posted...

Youre homophobic because youre mostly straight, and the issues faced by the LGBTQ+ community will NEVER affect you in a negative way.

I'm not "mostly straight," I'm heterosexual. I'm also not homophobic in that I believe they can do whatever they want between themselves. But I will not tolerate propaganda of their lifestyle because it is hedonistic, and spreading it would erode society further.
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Do you seriously not understand why these people become fucked up?! They were not "born this way," they became this way befcause their parents did not provide them with love and a healthy environment to grow up in. Sure, it's not 100% nurture, nature also plays a big role, but this is incredibly important. As I grow older and get to know more people, it is really startling how many of those with mental instability have had problems in the family while they were growing up. It's really opened up my eyes about what a huge responsibility it is to be a parent.

I'm not blaming "single moms." I am blaming the cultural environment that leads to broken families unless you and your wife are strong-willed enough.
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Espeon posted...

So then youre completely okay with pornography, right?

No, because by watching it and getting addicted to it you waste precious energy and willpower. Besides, it objectifies women. :^)
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Tom Bombadil posted...

I don't buy that at all.

Why? Is it so hard to imagine? Are you so lost to degeneracy you can't even imagine another person not being foolish to such an extent?

Tom Bombadil posted...

Ain't what I said at any point, but obsessing over bikini pictures of other ones is probably not the idea either.

Then what did you say? If I only posted fully-clothed images, it would be fine? This is stupid.

Tom Bombadil posted...

Vlado posted...

What you quoted talks of people who actually want to f*** the woman in question.

Vlado posted...

actions count, not "indecent thoughts

Pick one

Really? You can't put 2 and 2 together? If you want to fuck another woman while you're married, you might actually go ahead and do it. Which is action. What the Bible is trying to do is prevent people from taking such an action.

And since the BABE BRAWL women might as well be anime characters because we'll never meet them anyway, there is absolutely nothing in BABE BRAWL that contradicts that Bible verse.
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Kenri posted...

Vlado posted...

you must consider every woman but your own ugly.

i think the idea is actually not to judge their appearances at all but what do i know, i'm not a christian

That's not the idea at all. The idea is to be faithful to your woman. Because in Christianity, as in any good common-sense-based faith, actions count, not "indecent thoughts."
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Tom Bombadil posted...

I will buy the pure aesthetic argument when there's an equally successful series debating art. Or if you make one for men.

lmao, this is utterly pathetic. I am supposed to fill every niche you can think of to absolve some imaginary sin? Shame I thought higher of you.

You do not understand the Bible. What you quoted talks of people who actually want to fuck the woman in question. I don't. It is sheer lunacy to believe that in order to be a good Christian, you must consider every woman but your own ugly.

Mr Lasastryke posted...

i don't see how this is a response to my point about molyneux you quoted

I am not all that familiar with the guy aside from the fact that he's spreading some entry-level red pills, for which I commend him.

It's not about "demonising" leftists or rightists. This is not some stupid bread and circus game where you pick a team and root for it to beat the other team. This is philosophy, this is about thinking long-term, way beyond your own hopelessly short lifespan, and choosing what direction would help mankind achieve more. And also realising that even then, all we can see in our hopelessly short lifespans is a half-step in that direction at most.
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lol, so I have "committed adultery in my heart" with any woman I find beautiful? For someone who teaches in a Christian school, that is an extremely perverted understanding of the Holy Book. What would be unhealthy would be exactly the opposite, to try to convince yourself that any woman but your own is not beautiful. I do not look at BABE BRAWL girls "lustfully," I'll never even meet them, ffs. I appreciate them because they are aesthetically pleasing.

Kenri posted...

i am legitimately surprised to hear that based on how you've been acting on this board for more than a decade

Quite the opposite. If I cared about internet points, I would've been gone for years, given the fact that I've been mostly attacked on this board for over a decade.
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JonThePenguin posted...

Nobody said that.

The fact remains that in the series it is Solid Snake that is a Big Boss stand-in.
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Espeon posted...

Now dont you have a topic series to run where you judge women based on how sexually attractive they are?

Imagine actually believing that finding a woman beautiful is degenerate.

One day, whether you like it or not, you will have to confront the problems I am talking about. Consider the facts I am posting day in and day out in my topics, and try to think for yourself.

Mr Lasastryke posted...

stefan molyneux has been relentlessly demonizing leftists for the last 13 years on his extremely popular podcast. but sure, it's dems we should be attacking for being SO HATEFUL.

Lasa, I know you are more intelligent than the other people who usually engage me. Look at the relentless attack against family and morality since the end of WW2. Look also at the results from that attack (divorce rates through the roof, broken families through the roof, mental instability - and the respective destructive acts - through the roof).

Do you believe it is all just a coincidence?

Do you believe it is actually us, the ones who want to preserve the family, who want children to have a loving mother and father and to be raised in a healthy way, who love life and love what makes us human, that are to blame for those results?

Kenri posted...

wow you sure proved him wrong with that one

I am not here to win imaginary internet points.
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The fact that you refuse to answer my question is all the answer I needed.
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Lightning Strikes posted...

MGS3 is my favourite MGS by a long distance. It's also just one game and the lowest selling numbered game in the series to boot. And he doesn't even get called "Big Boss" until the very end. It's a bit like saying that MGS4 Old Snake should be the only Solid Snake used. Big Boss should be given a fair representation of the character.

lmfao, imagine trying to cook up some roundabout logic about why Big Boss shouldn't have a normal picture used to hide the simple fact you want him to lose this match.
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What is the promotion of hedonism and degeneracy if not an attack on normal families?
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Espeon posted...

Hey Unbridled. See that Vlado post up there? Now WHICH side demonizes the other as evil again? And after the midterm election in which the Dems has their biggest win in nearly 50 years, WHICH party is languishing again?

Did my "hate facts" trigger you again? Awww...
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Unbridled9 posted...

What I find funny is that my statement was that Republicans are not racist or sexist... And that's resulted in this... outpouring of hatred. As if Republicans desire the world to reach an unholy combination of Handmaiden's Tale and Rise of a Nation. I guess it can't be helped though and the dems will continue to languish while not understanding that their opponents are actual human beings as opposed to some amalgamation of Palpatine and Sauron.

All the while supporting the agenda of people who have been in a war against normal families for decades. 26 out of the 27 deadliest mass shooters in the US grew up without a father. A broken family leads to mental instability and the respective consequences. But these chucklefucks fight to destroy the family while literally believing they are the good guys fighting an evil.
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It doesn't matter if it's one, two or five. What matters is that they are isolated incidents. If your side keeps playing with fire (i.e. identity politics), they will stop being isolated and the last US civil war will begin. That's all I'm trying to warn you about.
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NGO exposed teaching migrants how to trick f***ing stupid EU border guards

"I tell them this is acting, all of this is acting for them to get through, they must act their part in the theater."

Oh wow, it's like the directives of soros puppets are to flood Europe with culturally incompatible third worlders.

https://www.rt.com/news/443812-migrants-acting-ngo-exposed/
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Note how I didn't equate all left-wingers to the Bernie bro who shot up Scalise? I mean, it would have probably been edgy and hilarious. But it would also have been utterly stupid.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

Vlado posted...

A vast majority of mentally unstable people become that way because they didn't grow up in a stable, loving family.

oh, i thought it was because they played too much GTA

Read and respond to the rest of my statement. You - okay, maybe not you personally, but US leftists here - are literally supporting those who create these people.
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I mean, yeah, surely it's convenient to cast equivalence between random psychos and right-wing supporters as a whole. But you have no idea how quickly your comfortable bubble from which you're making these ignorant statements will burst if what you're talking about really starts happening.
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Espeon posted...

I think he means the Republicans are disavowing anyone who act like women and minorities and Democrats and scientists and the LGBTQ+ community and Jewish people are human beings worthy of respect. Thats the fringe of the GOP at this point. The base is just made up of violent assholes that want an excuse to execute their enemies.

Careful what you wish.
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Wrong. You must prove that the Republican Party are racist - you will note that foolmo was talking about the party's leadership, not about any random Republican voter.
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lel
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Bottom option is of course the best, but I'll high five those with a Switch, too. Nintendo fans have a good excuse to be owning that one, the rest have none.
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Yes, it's kind of odd to use a picture of the character from a game where he is a supporting character rather than all the games where he is the main character.
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heroicmario posted...

But its not a bad picture all the same! At a certain point, youre basically saying, if he doesnt look like a Solid Snake stand in, its sabotage, haha. I think this picture just ends up being indicative of how people feel about Big Boss!

>implying Big Boss is the clone and not vice versa

Really now?
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That's your own stupid idea. What I'm saying is that first, it is still not clarified to what extent we are linked to the Thracians, and second, those things you quoted are of questionable credibility.
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I wouldn't place much faith in wikipedia, especially on matters like these which are still not settled even among serious researchers.

Meanwhile, facebook once again show their extreme globalism by firing an extremely talented employee - the Occulus Rift founder - simply because he supported Trump:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-11/facebook-fired-oculus-founder-his-political-beliefs-and-pro-trump-donations

Read the whole thing, it's a fascinating story. After firing him, his lawyer pressured them and they settled to pay up $100m.
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You do realise that, if the hypothesis is proven correct, that's just an older name for Bulgarians.
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Haunter12O posted...

he shared personal details of his life that made me think he had it a bit rough when growing up.

Yes. Consider also the fact that 26 of the 27 deadliest mass shooters in the US grew up without a father. A vast majority of mentally unstable people become that way because they didn't grow up in a stable, loving family.

Now, consider the fact that globalism, through SJWs and other puppets, attacks the institution of the stable, loving family relentlessly. After WW2, divorce rates have skyrocketed, and anti-family lifestyles, both heterosexual and not, are getting promoted 24/7 by the media.

Knowing the above two facts, what do you think the goal of globalists is?
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WTF, we've seriously got the same matches as the actual bracket? Sad.

Big Boss
Alucard
2B
Phoenix
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

i think this needs a big fat "citation needed"

Hello? Burden of proof is on those who accuse, not the accused.
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If you only extract whatever you want to extract from that paragraph and ignore everything else, that may be one thing you come up with, yes. Those who can and want to read understand what I said perfectly.

By the way, Bulgarians are an old people - our country here alone has been around for ~1340 years, and there's historical evidence of Bulgarians in nearby areas since at least the 3rd century AD. Research is still in progress, but it is highly likely we are descended to a great extent from the Thracians, which is a people that was thriving alongside the ancient Greeks.

In short, for a Bulgarian, the history of a country like the US is pretty short. :)
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Hardcore_Adult posted...

I suspect you're probably doing this right now:

It was a very pleasant surprise. I don't expect much from this government, and the unbelievably incompetent foreign minister had said two weeks ago we'd be signing it. It's a blessing we've got United Patriots in the coalition, some of them are patriots only in name, but they are important leverage that managed to save us from the istanbul convention and now this. Two important victories for a usually voiceless country like ours.
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