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LOLIAmAnAlt posted...

Pancakes

I'll take this.
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

doesnt seem to be anything about japan in the video with that image.
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

i found it will report/link in a sec if true.
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Corrik7 posted...

Lmfao

Ahahaha

Hahaha

Ahahahahahah

https://imgur.com/TRMSRXN

do we have video? i need to see this video
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

As a somewhat savvy internet user I am getting slightly irritated at the attribution of 8chan/4chan as part of the dark web.

They are traditionally accessed websites and not yet affiliated with any sort of "Dark web" access/hosting protocol.

I don't know if this attribution is ignorance or a stealthy way of blame shifting slightly away from the general populace.
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

where is the "Yes, a Trump family member" option?
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Lopen posted...

Thing about scumteams digging in though is they have to fake it. It becomes more risky. Like yes you can create an argument on anyone to some extent, but even if it's good say they claim then what. Can you reliably flow from town member to town member to pressure without the arguments you're making seem a bit contrived? Can you avoid your scumbuddies that probably have as good or better cases on them?

You gain the benefit of more numbers. That strong voice day 1 becomes an even stronger voice day 2.
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

It was hard to say things that weren't "He doesnt want to play and I wanted our roleblocker to live".
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Lopen posted...

Like basically the thing to realize is that no matter how much "evidence" you find, no matter how much gut your read has, if you've got like 5 or 6 players thinking one guy is scum, with some of them making decently reasonable arguments, they're probably more likely to be scum than the dude you had a scum lean on that you just came across in a reread.

this is why its better to have scumteams willing to just dig hard into town. Because it makes this 100% not true.

Dig into town and then mob mentality will roll the game over.
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Corrik7 posted...

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/mass-shootings-mother-jones-full-data/

Numbers somewhat.

You could argue 2015 is where the spike really begins. Which of course is where the beginning of the presidential election gets into swing.

No one is saying the rhetoric doesn't help cause mass shootings.

What we are saying is that even with the rhetoric, if the guns are not available, the mass shootings don't happen. Other countries have the rhetoric, they don't have the mass shootings.

The guns are the difference.
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Corrik7 posted...

true. We greatly outnumber many, but it isn't they are all flat and we are way above and beyond. The correlation simply doesn't exist and it is why you keep saying outliers because nothing exists to support that.

We are literally above and beyond. Stop saying we arent. We are miles beyond anyone else when it comes to the amount of guns.
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

The guns are literally the only thing different from us and basically every other developed nation when it comes to mass shootings.

This is literal correlation. It is again, undeniable.
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Corrik7 posted...

Then why doesn't the nation's with the great numbers have great numbers of shootings. The ones with average numbers have average numbers of shootings and so on. That isn't how correlation works.

It isn't everyone is flat and we are an outlier in both and no one else correlates.

because every country is incomparable to us.

There is us and then there is everyone else. You can compare the others. But they are incomparable to us. We are such an outlier that every country 2 to last may as well be the same. There is no comparison to make except us vs literally everyone else. We are unique in a horrible way.

You keep trying to make comparisons where comparisons cant be made.
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

btw one anoher thing. Town Poisoner that gives notification should not be the case when the board standard is for poisoner to not give notification.

It basically made panth a confirmable role(with a confirmable in mayor already in place).

That was probably my biggest balance issue with the setup. There was no way anyone should think panth is scum.
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

I mean, did it never cross your mind that the real doctor would go after you?

because he did a complete 180 when you floated doc.

Yet you were still going hard on him.

But you were being too self-absorbed to even think on this in the slightest because you were just full anti-town.
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Corrik7 posted...

It was hard to do the re-read and not think fire_bolt was scum lol. He looked awful. Haha.

he looked like the fucking doctor on the day you got lynched.
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Corrik7 posted...

No correlation there exists. Which is why I said it is not gun numbers or populace that own guns that is the issue. We see this clear not correlated in the numbers. So what is the correlation?

the correlation does exist.

We are the outlier.

Of developed, prosperous, stable government countries, we are the ones with the extraodinary amount of guns and the one with the extraordinary amount of mass shootings.

The amount of guns are the only thing that make us unique.

It is the correlation. It is undeniable.
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Corrik, you are making an assumption that there is anywhere like the United States when it comes to guns.

We are the outlier. Every single country is incomparable to the United States situation when it comes to guns. There is no other data to view but our own.
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Freya
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

If you are pushed to claim and then throw out an obvious fakeclaim, you arent getting any heat off of yourself. Especially when your fakeclaim is doctor and you have spent the entire day trying to bait counterclaims for no reason.

The entire play was counterproductive. And your hider claim wasn't going to draw any scum shots to you, we already knew you were bullshitting when you claimed to target blade.
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

There are countries with lots of guns relative to other countries that are not the United States. But the amount of gun any single country has absolutely pales in comparison to the United States.

We are the outlier. There is no "lots of guns" if you are comparing to the United States.

If you consider us the bar for "lots of guns", then lower that bar by 50%.

You want to know what country is above the bar for "lots of guns".

Its just the United States. Just us.

We are that far beyond.
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

You have no propensity to mass shoot if you don't have guns and ammunition.

There is no country with lots of guns comparable to us. You keep stating the same absolute lie.

There is -no country- with our level of guns. It is incomparable. We are the one and only outlier.
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Corrik7 posted...

The propensity to commit a mass shooting though is based on divide. Not gun numbers also.

no, the propensity is caused by the ability to easily access guns. You remove the guns you remove the mass shootings.

Other countries have similar levels of violence, its just their criminals are limited to pulling out knives and then good luck killing 30 people with a knife. A gun you can shoot 20 people in less than 30 seconds as we've seen recently.
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

A national registry has in fact been deemed illegal because we are fucking insane when it comes to guns.
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Corrik7 posted...

red13n posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Yeah, that is not what I linked. Thanks. I linked percentage that owns the guns. Not how many guns exist. A guy having 300 guns and a guy having 10 guns doesn't matter. It is 1 person with guns.

So there are houses with fucking arsenals in them. How many of these shooters carry more than 1 gun? A fucking ton of them. It is again, the access to these weapons that is a problem.

Where is the correlation?

the fucking correlation is that we are the only developed country with near our level of guns and near our level of mass shooting. We are the outlier on both.

Switzerland has a fuckton of guns due to required military service and training and keeps records of where all their fucking guns are at any times, not to mention far stricter requirements in able to be able to purchase weapons. And again, they have a gun for 1 of every 4 citizens, the US has basically has a gun for every 8th of a citizen. It is incomparable.
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Corrik7 posted...

Yeah, that is not what I linked. Thanks. I linked percentage that owns the guns. Not how many guns exist. A guy having 300 guns and a guy having 10 guns doesn't matter. It is 1 person with guns.

So there are houses with fucking arsenals in them. How many of these shooters carry more than 1 gun? A fucking ton of them. It is again, the access to these weapons that is a problem.
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

No, you know what causes mass shootings? Guns capable of causing mass shootings.

And we are the only country in the world that has enough guns to shoot everyone once with each weapon and still have guns leftover. We don't even need all the ammunition wehave on top of that. Just 1 bullet per gun and everyone is shot.
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Corrik7 posted...

Let's go by this due to no one going to have real numbers.

https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/02/15/politics/guns-dont-know-how-many-america/index.html

"According to the 2017 Pew study, 30% of Americans own guns themselves (12 points lower than the 42% who live in households with guns). For Gallup, it was 29% (13 points lower than the 42% who live in households with guns). The GSS pegs it even lower -- only 21% of Americans said they personally own guns (11 points lower than the 32% who live in households with guns).
Both the GSS and Pew surveys find that it's women who are more likely to be the people who don't personally own guns but live in households with weapons."

http://factmyth.com/factoids/gun-ownership-is-relatively-high-in-switzerland/

In Switzerland, it is estimated that about 25-30% of citizens own a gun, more own hunting weapons (which dont require registration) or own unregistered old army weapons. "

no, we have real numbers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

And by false I mean immediately. There is no country with "tons of guns" like the United States. We are literally the only country in the world close to our level of guns in the populace.
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Corrik7 posted...

Tons of countries have guns. They don't have these issues.

False. Just outright false.
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Espeon posted...

red13n posted...

No, the problem is the guns. If you don't have the guns, you don't have the mass shootings. Being politically divided is not unique to us among developed countries.

Plus political divisions dont explain things like Sandy Hook.

one of the recent shootings wasn't even politically motivated(Ohio seems like it was just crazy idiot with access to a gun).
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

No, the problem is the guns. If you don't have the guns, you don't have the mass shootings. Being politically divided is not unique to us among developed countries.
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

KH2
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

red xiii
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Leanansidhe posted...

FTR I'm Mechagodzilla and would have counter-claimed miller. I considered claiming miller because of the flavour and to hide the cop, but I truly detest millers.

this would have backfired on you immensely.
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Cop is not too strong when only two people in the entire game could have scanned guilty.

If hb just claims miller immediately the game is over. stand by this.
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Did ulti literally link to reddit for his phantom pain?
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Nelson_Mandela posted...

There's no correlation outside of the US being #1 in both metrics.

you are literally trying to say there is correlation but we're going to ignore that one correlation?

We're literally more than 2 to 1 outlier over every country in the world that has an actual population.
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

There is a very simple answer to why we have mass shootings and other countries dont.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

oh hey it is time for both sides to start bringing up video games again. Just great.
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Freya
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

davidponte posted...

"You need to let her go, dude"

I'll be the bringer of probably harsh reality and say this is probably right.

You are 100% all in on her and she is not giving you the same commitment back. That sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. I think it sucks to end a relationship that long but it seems pretty obvious that she means more to you than you mean to her.
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

NFUN posted...

and his naivity was lamented when compromising on obamacare

I dislike this framing from the left because the alternative to obamacare at the time was complete shit and no health care for a large number of americans. Is Obamacare perfect? No. But it was a hell of a good start to get us better health care. Its a talking point used to divide the left when it should be a rallying cry to come together for something even better.
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Its easier to come to terms with murdering a group of people when someone with a global platform calls what you assume to be said group of people racists, murderers, and gang members.

But you know, not Trump's fault in the slightest.
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

red xiii
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

UltimaterializerX posted...

On Alex Jones's Thursday show, before any shooting happened, he predicted there would be an Antifa terror attack with another mass shooting on the same day by a right wing extremist. You can go to that podcast and skip to around 90 minutes in to hear it.

this shooting does not appear to be politically motivated.
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

I mean, theoretically the internet has the ability to self-destroy 8chan. People are just too lazy to take the sustained effort.
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

And I'm going to reiterate the literal bullshit stat ulti is posting here.

8500+ gun deaths this year.

There will be somewhere around 200 deaths by deer this year. With Deer population supposedly becoming a massive problem.

I wonder which one is more harmful.
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

ahh it is false. It is the deadliest non-human animal in the united states. But with a very meager 200 deaths per year.

We are already over that number of deaths caused by gun violence by over 400 times the amount.
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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.