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| Topic | GM cutting health coverage to striking workers |
| legendary_zell 09/17/19 4:38:08 PM #6 | No, you see, the unions said no, so he can't. His hands see tied. I hope people are tweeting this at Sanders, Warren, and Castro. And of course Biden. --- |
| Topic | Eyepatch guy is back with his weirdest take yet |
| legendary_zell 09/17/19 3:53:04 PM #16 | s0nicfan posted... shockthemonkey posted...s0nicfan posted...I mean, people get what he's saying right? You should absolutely support your veterans, but we (are supposed to) go to war because it's necessary, not because you've sufficiently planned for what happens after. We should have gone to war to stop Hitler whether or not we had a Veterans Affairs in place for returning soldiers. What's Crenshaw's interpretation if not that, then? That's pretty clearly the strawman he's replying to, otherwise his tweet makes even less sense. I feel like you're a pretty smart guy, but you seem to reflexively "to be fair" for the weirdest conservative stuff. --- |
| Topic | YouTube is infested with ads. |
| legendary_zell 09/17/19 3:48:06 PM #44 | YoshitoKikuchi posted... Use Brave browser, you won't see ads. I haven't seen an ad on Youtube in about 2 years. This. It's a game changer. --- |
| Topic | 1 In 16 Women Reports First Sexual Experience As Rape |
| legendary_zell 09/17/19 11:15:41 AM #85 | EIiza posted... Sad_Face posted...TheGreatGeno6 posted...So if a guy begs a girl to have sex over and over but does NOT ever threaten her and the girl agrees to it, then it is rape? There's not the same omni present threat of physical violence from a bad reaction to rejection. Plus it's not okay when women pressure men either. Why not just advocate for that as a universal value instead of making false equivalencies or asserting what other people care about or derailing a conversation? --- |
| Topic | 1 In 16 Women Reports First Sexual Experience As Rape |
| legendary_zell 09/17/19 11:13:03 AM #84 | All I'll say is that if you guys have dealer friends, listen to them. They might tell you about some experiences that are horrifying and eye opening. There's a lot of otherwise "normal" people who have really messed up ideas about how sex works and where the boundaries are. They don't think of themselves as rapists and think of themselves as good people, but they're leaving a lot of scars. We should all do our best not to be one of those people, and the best way to do that is to define what's acceptable by enthusiastic consent, not what we want to do or are allowed to do. --- |
| Topic | Ben Shapiro: rap isn't real music |
| legendary_zell 09/16/19 6:06:26 PM #19 | This is the quality of the rest of his opinions as well. This is the best the right can do for "public intellectuals" Not surprising as there's no conservative held out as an interlectual who hasn't said approximately 1 trillion dumb things. --- |
| Topic | Secret Service: "The first family is very active in water sports" |
| legendary_zell 09/16/19 3:39:35 PM #7 | |
| Topic | Scenario: This dude slaps your girlfriend's ass |
| legendary_zell 09/15/19 3:23:33 PM #4 | I don't know what that thing is. I'm just happy I have a gf in this scenario. --- |
| Topic | If Everyone but Bernie, Biden, and Warren dropped out now, Biden would be loser. |
| legendary_zell 09/15/19 12:43:26 PM #16 | ElatedVenusaur posted... Yeah, there's no reason for either Bernie or Warren to be VP. I've never seen this analysis before and it seems correct. Warren and Sanders are winning the idea and campaign quality primaries easily. Warren is clearly running the best campaign and that makes it hard for the moderates who are essentially running on their ability to campaign to get anywhere, which kills Harris, Beto, and Buttigieg. And that helps Bernie a lot because these people could be getting a lot of the excitement and youth vote if it wasn't for Warren. She soaks up a lot of the young and educated people that want to be swept off their feet like with Obama 08. And Warren gets to avoid being painted as a radical socialist because there's an actual socialist running. There's pretty much no way she could have avoided that label otherwise, no matter how much she says she loves capitalism. --- |
| Topic | If Everyone but Bernie, Biden, and Warren dropped out now, Biden would be loser. |
| legendary_zell 09/15/19 11:51:32 AM #12 | I don't know if that's clear. All of the people backing other moderate candidates might be resigned to the reality that Joe would be their only hope and would rally behind him, ensuring he wins. --- |
| Topic | Man found guilty of first-degree murder for booby trapping his shed... |
| legendary_zell 09/15/19 11:48:13 AM #55 | Lil_Bit83 posted... legendary_zell posted...No, it's pretty standard for you to not be able to set up death traps to kill trespassers, regardless of the signs or warnings. Because that's an insane and murderous thing to do. Federal law says using deadly force indiscriminately to protect unoccupied property is not reasonable, even if the victim is a trespasser. And even with state laws like stand your ground laws and anti-theft laws, the reasonableness of deadly force is determined on a case by case basis, and setting up a death trap means the defendant threw reason out the window and decided to execute all living things because they have a cave dragon mentality when it comes to property. Society across multiple levels and in multiple countries has already decided that what you're talking about is outside the bounds of rational or justifiable behavior. I don't think you can do this in ANY western country. Because again, no amount of frustration makes it okay to indiscriminately kill people who dare to disrespect your property. And theft at pretty much any level is not a death penalty offense. Individuals are rightfully not allowed to play judge, jury and executioner when their lives are not at risk. No one gets to decide that others shouldn't live anymore because of their attitude towards theft and property. --- |
| Topic | Man found guilty of first-degree murder for booby trapping his shed... |
| legendary_zell 09/15/19 11:33:02 AM #50 | ThisIsIt posted... He had signs, death warnings, a giant dug hole in front of door, razer blades on the handle to prevent open it. No, it's pretty standard for you to not be able to set up death traps to kill trespassers, regardless of the signs or warnings. Because that's an insane and murderous thing to do. Federal law says using deadly force indiscriminately to protect unoccupied property is not reasonable, even if the victim is a trespasser. And even with state laws like stand your ground laws and anti-theft laws, the reasonableness of deadly force is determined on a case by case basis, and setting up a death trap means the defendant threw reason out the window and decided to execute all living things because they have a cave dragon mentality when it comes to property. --- |
| Topic | Man found guilty of first-degree murder for booby trapping his shed... |
| legendary_zell 09/15/19 11:26:19 AM #48 | TheMikh posted... so if you use a gun in self-defense during unlawful entry it's legally permitted You are in danger when directly confronted. When you set up a trap, you are deciding to kill anyone who goes in there in a manner that triggers the trap, even if you're safe and sound. --- |
| Topic | Dem Debate #3 tonight: One night only |
| legendary_zell 09/12/19 11:02:37 PM #488 | Antifar posted... https://twitter.com/tomscocca/status/1172341328790708224 This, I can't believe that level of disingenuousness doesn't' cause a lightning bolt to strike immediately. --- |
| Topic | Dem Debate #3 tonight: One night only |
| legendary_zell 09/12/19 10:46:19 PM #459 | |
| Topic | Dem Debate #3 tonight: One night only |
| legendary_zell 09/12/19 10:29:57 PM #413 | Don't worry about the commentators they have on. They always say exactly what their organization or ideology would dictate, it has little to do with how people performed. --- |
| Topic | Dem Debate #3 tonight: One night only |
| legendary_zell 09/12/19 10:17:59 PM #369 | That was the worst answer I've heard in a long time. He said NOTHING and sounded senile. He just kept talking so he wouldn't be seen as stumped, that's his general strategy. --- |
| Topic | Dem Debate #3 tonight: One night only |
| legendary_zell 09/12/19 9:27:53 PM #267 | |
| Topic | Dem Debate #3 tonight: One night only |
| legendary_zell 09/12/19 9:12:06 PM #231 | |
| Topic | Dem Debate #3 tonight: One night only |
| legendary_zell 09/12/19 9:05:17 PM #215 | |
| Topic | Dem Debate #3 tonight: One night only |
| legendary_zell 09/12/19 8:58:59 PM #198 | |
| Topic | Dem Debate #3 tonight: One night only |
| legendary_zell 09/12/19 8:56:27 PM #187 | |
| Topic | Inspiring: 12-year-old does manual labor to help pay for college |
| legendary_zell 09/12/19 9:51:10 AM #102 | The kid didn't do anything wrong. But this is not a great story. It shares the same terribleness as those "man walks 20 miles round-trip for work until someone notices and gives him a ride/buys him a car". The noteworthy thing there is the broken-ness of the public transportation system and the poverty wages that don't allow the person to buy the car. The story here is the absurd cost of a college education and economic inequality that allows some people's children to never worry about a dime of college money while others are forced to "heart-warmingly perform manual labor for sub minimum wage to scrape a college fund together. You people praising this story would be like people who praised Frederick Douglass and said "see, black people can succeed " while ignoring slavery and the injustice that makes the story noteworthy --- |
| Topic | Dead franchises that still have a vocal fanbase asking for a sequel |
| legendary_zell 09/11/19 10:12:03 PM #54 | The ones that need a sequel immediately are Legend of Dragoon Mega Man Legends Chrono Cross Skies of Arcadia SSX Tricky Viewtiful Joe All would be day one purchases for me. --- |
| Topic | CA just passed a bill for reclassifying gig (Uber, Lyft, etc) employees |
| legendary_zell 09/11/19 5:15:08 PM #24 | Balrog0 posted... SK8T3R215 posted..."Hey can I clock in to do a few hours of driving tonight?" Man, this trash is why people hate lawyers, and I'm saying this as a lawyer. This is such a disingenuous, anti-meaning, anti-reality argument that it should be considered frivolous. --- |
| Topic | Firms that bankrolled Boris Johnson's campaign have 8b riding on no deal Brexit |
| legendary_zell 09/11/19 4:22:17 PM #3 | In a rational world, this would be a huge scandal that would topple the government and trigger a huge investigation that results in a lot of people being completely shamed out of any form of public influence. Then again, in a rational world, Brexit wouldn't have happened like this and Johnson wouldn't have gotten within a thousand miles of the PM office. --- |
| Topic | Did George Bush handle 9/11 well IYO? |
| legendary_zell 09/11/19 4:16:58 PM #17 | The Great Muta 22 posted... Maybe the day itself, but considering his administration both had an idea an attack was coming prior and immediately tried to tie it into and blaming Iraq like, the same fucking day, he still should face some criticism This. He did the national leader stuff well. He did the commander in chief stuff as badly as anyone has ever done it. --- |
| Topic | The new Bill Burr Netflix special is pretty tryhard and cringey, tbh. |
| legendary_zell 09/10/19 2:02:13 PM #13 | darkprince45 posted... legendary_zell posted...Richard Pryor, Bernie Mac, John Mulaney, Louis C.K. (cancelled), Tig Notaro, Mitch Hedberg, Eddie Izzard, Chris Rock (when not laundering racism). I thought Hannah Gadsby was pretty funny when she was trying to be funny.You should have no problem with bill burr then lol. Especially with the shit Richard Pryor said. Probably a million times worse than anything burr ever said Bill Burr amplifies the things I don't like about Pryor the most. The condescending, superior, ironic political tone is really hard to pull off because 9/10 times, people rely on political/cultural agreement to get laughs and forget to include the funny. It makes sense because it really really works for the people that agree with you, as you can see with the undying for Burr and Carlin among the misanthropic, "society has gone mad and doesn't care about the REAL issues" crowd. Carlin is even worse at that and Lewis Black made a whole career out of it. It's the tone and lack of funny, relative to the adoration from people that agree that I take issue with, not the statements themselves. --- |
| Topic | The new Bill Burr Netflix special is pretty tryhard and cringey, tbh. |
| legendary_zell 09/10/19 1:51:39 PM #9 | pogo_rabid posted... legendary_zell posted...Well his vocal fanbase seems to be almost exclusively angry right wing or "I'm actually pretty left, I just don't like SJWs" white guys who like their opinions yelled back at them. The same types who fellate Carlin. And that's a big demographic here so you're not gonna have a good time criticizing Burr on that basis here. Richard Pryor, Bernie Mac, John Mulaney, Louis C.K. (cancelled), Tig Notaro, Mitch Hedberg, Eddie Izzard, Chris Rock (when not laundering racism). I thought Hannah Gadsby was pretty funny when she was trying to be funny. --- |
| Topic | The new Bill Burr Netflix special is pretty tryhard and cringey, tbh. |
| legendary_zell 09/10/19 9:32:35 AM #7 | Well his vocal fanbase seems to be almost exclusively angry right wing or "I'm actually pretty left, I just don't like SJWs" white guys who like their opinions yelled back at them. The same types who fellate Carlin. And that's a big demographic here so you're not gonna have a good time criticizing Burr on that basis here. --- |
| Topic | Woah those Joker leaks...prove the media right, INCELS got a hero. |
| legendary_zell 09/10/19 1:24:54 AM #36 | mattnd2007 posted... Esrac posted...I'm not going to pretend I know exactly what's causing things, but it seems to me that these incels do have some pretty significant issues that they need help on. And the trend of everyone endlessly dumping on them is just another instance of shitting on men who need help with behavioral and mental problems.Yup. Based on your unreserved agreement with this post, my post was appropriate. They aren't crapped on for being men with behavioral and mental issues, they are disliked for being bad people with a toxic ideology and worldview that they actively attempt to spread and even kill for in rare instances. Just like gang members aren't hated for being poor or being from bad neighborhoods, they're hated for crime and murder. There's lots of people that can't get laid, and lots of people with mental health problems, and few of them buy into the incel ideology. And not all of the people in incel communities have mental health issues, especially if getting laid alone would solve them. Everyone can get frustrated at their inability to find connection when they desperately want it, and that should never be mocked, but only some take the step of making that the core of their identity and worldview and turn venomous towards others and themselves. --- |
| Topic | Woah those Joker leaks...prove the media right, INCELS got a hero. |
| legendary_zell 09/10/19 1:04:05 AM #30 | They aren't attacked because they are virgins. Lots of people are virgins and that gets you little more than light teasing. Lots of people will leap to your defense for that. They are hated because of the misogyny, racism, catastrophizing, dehumanization of others, spouting pseudoscience, oh and the occasional murder. It's not about virgins, it's about the specific people that identify as incels and join online communities with a shared language and culture. Spinning it as attacking virgins or lonely young men in general is disingenuous and inaccurate. --- |
| Topic | woman in wheel chair gets stole on. |
| legendary_zell 09/08/19 2:58:59 PM #44 | LMAO, CE knows zero slang. I need topics like these to remind me of the demographics of this website. --- |
| Topic | Modern day female and LGBT "equality" is just attacking men |
| legendary_zell 09/08/19 2:53:49 PM #39 | HasaDiga posted... @legendary_zell Just for the benefit of others reading this conversation, I'll address this argument. It's a very common propaganda argument that attempts to criticize "western feminism" by pointing to worse issues in third world countries. It's based on the premise that there are no legitimate issues to focus on here, and asserts that feminists are pecking at minor issues instead of addressing major ones elsewhere. It's nothing more than an attempt at misdirection. First, almost all social movements primarily focus on their own societies, even if they do have an international focus because people know their own problems and their own society's the best. Second, feminists focused on human rights are the ones putting pressure on foreign countries to improve their human rights records. Non-feminists snipe at feminists for not doing enough, while international human rights focused feminists actually do work. Third, it's really easy for domestic conservatives to discredit domestic feminist movements when they're perceived as being inspired by western feminists. Fourth, almost no one has the resources to do what you're suggesting. Fifth, it's perfectly legitimate for people to focus on the issues that affect them and their community and not focusing on other issues faced by other people doesn't discredit anything. All injuries are worthy of being addressed. Feeling that the issues that feminists organize about aren't important is one thing. Just make that regressive point if you want to, argue that feminists should shut up because you don't perceive any issues, but don't deflect to third world women as if you care about them at all. --- |
| Topic | Prager U goes full Nazi |
| legendary_zell 09/08/19 2:30:43 PM #28 | TheMikh posted... I'll withhold my usual commentary knocking on neocons today, and say this: Maybe that's because the people who make these points are racist AF and reveal their racism every time they talk about it, making the topics taboo? Maybe it's because of Europe's history of what happened the last time this type of rhetoric was fully embraced? --- |
| Topic | Modern day female and LGBT "equality" is just attacking men |
| legendary_zell 09/08/19 2:23:53 PM #35 | HasaDiga posted... hockeybub89 posted...HasaDiga posted...hockeybub89 posted...HasaDiga posted...hockeybub89 posted...HasaDiga posted...I'm tired of people trying to turn the first world into an episode of The Care Bears while not really giving a shit about the third world. You are quickly rising up the ranks of worst posters on this board. You have a special talent for incredible galaxy brain conservative takes. No serious human being could type these words. --- |
| Topic | Do you consider evolution to be 100% proven fact? |
| legendary_zell 09/07/19 5:16:50 PM #159 | Yo, real talk, some of y'all are legit brain dead. You have faulty, diseased, illogical ways of thinking that lead to nonsensical, harmful ways to thinking. And the exact people with that mindset also exhibit the same types of beliefs politically. You are making trash arguments that were laughable 100 years ago. You hold our society back. You aren't even worthy of the explanations being given in this topic. All of this applies whether you're serious or trolling. --- |
| Topic | Tulsi Gabbard on her online Russian support. |
| legendary_zell 09/06/19 7:53:16 PM #10 | We're not on the cusp of nuclear war. Like at all. We were probably closer under Obama and it was never ever going to happen then either. This is a really dumb and glib response. --- |
| Topic | Moscow Bitch: We have to cut social security and medicare to lower the deficit |
| legendary_zell 09/05/19 8:50:39 PM #12 | One of the biggest non-slave owning, non-segregationist villians in American history. It's an indictment on our political, social, and economic system that this dude is in power and not run out of town on a rail for being anti-human. --- |
| Topic | Unions are stupid |
| legendary_zell 09/04/19 9:56:28 PM #48 | CanuckCowboy posted... AlisLandale posted...I mean I sort of agree. Unions are another company that cares about profit so you want to leave your future entirely up to actual companies that actually care entirely about profit? This is clearly an emotional issue for you which is completely valid. You feel like they've failed you and your family. But you've definitely come to the wrong conclusion here. --- |
| Topic | Unions are stupid |
| legendary_zell 09/04/19 9:21:29 PM #32 | Surely you guys who hate unions defending "crackhead" workers outnumber the "crackheads" so why not be democratic about it and fight to change it, rather than spouting rhetoric that leaves you completely at the whims of what business owners decide among themselves is acceptable. Because without unions, that's where workers are left, and then they have to try to re-create unions from scratch to be treated like human beings again. See Amazon factory workers, game developers, Walmart employees etc. If you don't exercise workplace democracy, you ensure that you will work in an economic dictatorship. --- |
| Topic | Unions are stupid |
| legendary_zell 09/04/19 9:16:42 PM #28 | It makes no sense to hate on the institution that allows you to have power in the economic part of your life. You wouldn't hate on the very idea of a Republic or having elected officials in the political sphere, so why dump on the concept of joining to have economic power in the face of rich, mobile, politically powerful capital? If you want better unions, join your union and improve it or advocate for better unions from the outside. Don't be a tool of employers and destroy your own power. --- |
| Topic | Breaking: House of Commons passes bill preventing no-deal Brexit |
| legendary_zell 09/04/19 6:23:22 PM #65 | The British government not jumping off the cliff isn't due to cowardice. It's not like the vague quality of "courage" is really what's at issue here. They're not doing it because what's on the table now is an incredibly, mind blowingly bad idea that no one voted for. To use the results of a vote where A and B are the options but Z is what will actually happen as binding to force you to do Z makes no sense when there is nothing actually forcing you to do Z and the public doesn't want to do Z. You're talking about shredding trade deals, economic chaos, potential political violence and the separation of the country all because of a narrow vote based on lies and an unclear result. What's the point of having elected officials and a Republican system if they're just going to charge off what is so very obviously a cliff? Why even have leaders at that point if they don't try to preserve the country? --- |
| Topic | Report: Straight Pride Parade a total sausagefest |
| legendary_zell 09/04/19 1:10:07 PM #12 | AngelsNAirwav3s posted... Sounds like it was all just a massive joke, but the far left took it serious and caused violence This seems to be the only type of "joke" the right is capable of nowadays. Ones that attract alt right types and that make everyone laugh at them. And jokes that seem to be indistinguishable from their actual beliefs. --- |
| Topic | I'm 33 years old and have never drank before. |
| legendary_zell 09/04/19 1:47:39 AM #4 | Don't, it's not a good habit. It would probably be banned along with cigs if we restarted society tomorrow. . If you've managed to have fun without it this long, you've been doing it the right way. But if you really really want to, start with cocktails that actually taste good, especially with tequila, vodka, gin, and rum. Then work to beer, then whiskey. --- |
| Topic | C/D: Fish Hook Theory |
| legendary_zell 09/03/19 10:20:34 PM #54 | Accurate in the sense that many people propagandize through their self assessment of their political ideology. I've seen a truly countless number of people openly defend family separation, Charlottesville Nazis, forced sterilization of groups of people, etc and claim to be centrists. Many of these are MAGA people, trolls, and extremists by any rational metric. These are the ones who try to claim things like ethnonationalism and the abolition of the welfare state as common sense policies. There's also a big second group of people who seem to be giving an honest self assessment, but just have no idea of the political spectrum. Many of these people seem to have almost exclusively conservative political instincts, but just don't have a problem with gay marriage or want government healthcare for people like them and think that puts them in the center. They have no idea that middling views plus several radical ones does not make you a centrist. The common thread here is lacking actual liberal or leftist values. They are not big fans of actual social progress or equity and so anything that makes them uncomfortable is "where the left has gone too far". That's where you start to see people express shocking views on things like LGBT rights, immigration, the criminal justice system, economic assistance etc. You very rarely see these centrists devil's advocate for things on the left like you see them do with right wing radicalism because there is no human rights focus to stop them from saying things like "fuck that minority group" --- |
| Topic | do you guys believe in spanking kids as punishment |
| legendary_zell 09/02/19 3:30:49 PM #259 | averagejoel posted... legendary_zell posted...Is the problem here a lack of scientific literacy? Are you just not aware of the difference between anecdote and a repeatable scientific result? No, it's even worse than that. They ARE being genuine. This is yet another bad opinion brought about by the combination of conservative cultural norms and lack of scientific education. They're not trolling, they think they're making sense and that we're softies who will let our kids kick us in the shins with no consequences. They think "analyzing" their lives where they "turned out alright" is equivalent to actual research on the subject. --- |
| Topic | do you guys believe in spanking kids as punishment |
| legendary_zell 09/02/19 3:11:59 PM #257 | HasaDiga posted... legendary_zell posted...You pro-spanking people are absolutely embarrassing yourselves in this topic. You have been asked repeatedly, to post one, ONE measly source supporting your anecdote based opinions and you refuse to. Instead, you post the same debunked opinions let me go through them and dismiss them one by one so I know if they're used again, you're a robot. I've already seen studies showing that spanking is associated with increased aggression and that the fall in rates of spanking is associated with decreases in crime. I didn't have data specifically indicating that point, so I didn't act like I knew it for a fact. It would be nice if pro-spanking people could follow my lead. @alimajor My mind is actually not made up. In my culture, spanking is done as a matter of course and my parents spanked me. It would be better if what they did and what many many American parents do turned out to be neutral or positive. I'd be inclined to believe spanking was okay if I'd ever seen evidence that it was. If anyone could show me that. But it's never happened once. You seem to be telling me to run my own experiment, but at the same time, you're ignoring the results of all the actual experiments and studies done by actual scientists. Even if I did exactly what you're saying that would be an anecdote, not proof of anything. Is the problem here a lack of scientific literacy? Are you just not aware of the difference between anecdote and a repeatable scientific result? --- |
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