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TopicMind blowing concept: What if there was more than 1 cause for mass shootings?
legendary_zell
08/04/19 9:43:06 PM
#144
That's a completely different type of media effect than what others in this topic were arguing for. That is also not a cause of the mindset, even if it does amplify it. Even including the amplification effect, it still happens more here than anywhere else in the world.
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TopicMind blowing concept: What if there was more than 1 cause for mass shootings?
legendary_zell
08/04/19 8:48:34 PM
#141
People are literally just posting their world views and societal critiques while trying to deflect away from the obvious culprits of gun access and white supremacy/apocalyptic political views. Not a shred of evidence has been posted by the people blaming the media, anti-depressants, lack of traditional masculinity, mental health, etc. That's one of the biggest problems with the discourse surrounding this topic. There probably are factors beyond guns and bigotry that are contributing to the mass shooting problem in the US, including cultural ones, but people use the discussion as a political Rorschach test.
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TopicNeil DeGrasse Tyson tweets about El Paso/Ohio shootings
legendary_zell
08/04/19 7:52:09 PM
#130
He truly is like a lot of posters on this board. He may have some correct ideas, but the way he communicates is fundamentally douchey, condescending, and lacks basic empathy and social awareness.
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TopicActive shooter in El Paso; Police say to stay away from the area
legendary_zell
08/03/19 6:19:16 PM
#218
I always feel so sorry for the families of the shooters. How could you do this to your family? The entire world will hate them now and consider them responsible for your acts, they will likely have to go into hiding, move, dodge the media and death threats, change their names, undergo investigations etc. It's just mindblowing.
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TopicWhy are so many against minority representation in media?
legendary_zell
08/02/19 4:35:05 PM
#11
It's an acceptable means of expressing negative views of other races and of social progress towards inclusion and increasing social/cultural/and economic power for those groups. It's an expression of anger about losing relative power over the media and the types of characters that are presented as heroes or at least worthy of empathy.

That's why they claim representation isn't important when minorities argue for access but freak out when that access actually happens. Because it is important.
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TopicIf Tulsi Gabbard wins the Democratic nomination
legendary_zell
08/02/19 4:01:28 PM
#54
Balrog0 posted...
legendary_zell posted...
Balrog0 posted...
check it out:

https://voteview.com/person/21949/alexandria-ocasio-cortez

https://voteview.com/person/21324/tulsi-gabbard


I'm confused about these rankings then. I see AOC ranked as number one in other rankings and Gabbard way down the list.


it basically just measures how often a candidate votes with their party; it's probably fine for rating most of Congress, but I don't think it does a good job of capturing the views of people with ideologies that are out of step with the mainstream

edit - I'm not sure what other rankings of Congressional ideology exist, though. which ones put AOC as the most 'liberal'?


This is what I saw earlier. Who knows how reputable this org is though. But it meshed with my preconceived notion of who would be on top, so I didn't question it much.

https://progressivepunch.org/scores.htm?house=house
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TopicIf Tulsi Gabbard wins the Democratic nomination
legendary_zell
08/02/19 3:45:15 PM
#52
Balrog0 posted...
check it out:

https://voteview.com/person/21949/alexandria-ocasio-cortez

https://voteview.com/person/21324/tulsi-gabbard


I'm confused about these rankings then. I see AOC ranked as number one in other rankings and Gabbard way down the list.
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TopicIf Tulsi Gabbard wins the Democratic nomination
legendary_zell
08/02/19 1:13:35 PM
#47
Balrog0 posted...
legendary_zell posted...
Holy_Pumpkin posted...
I hope plenty because she's a true progressive that has the people's best interests in mind and hasn't sold her soul for money and corporations.


She was one of the most conservative Dems in the House and has had/continues views that are essentially disqualifiying on Israel, Syria/Assad, Modi in India, gay rights, etc. The idea that she's a true progressive is simply incorrect.

If she was legitimately what you think she is, she'd be winning because she'd have attractiveness, public speaking skills, and being a veteran on her side. But in reality, she's a weirdo with weird opinions, votes, and connections.


Nah, that's not a fair take, either. Pretty much all of the candidates have foreign policy views that should be disqualifying to progressives except Gravel and maybe Sanders, they're just the more mainstream, which is why she's not gaining traction. Because progressives are only a small part of the Democratic coalition.


Nope, it's pretty fair. She's more conservative than 83 percent of House Dems. I agree with what you're saying about the Dems foreign policy views though.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-tulsi-gabbard-could-win-the-2020-democratic-nomination/amp/
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TopicIf Tulsi Gabbard wins the Democratic nomination
legendary_zell
08/02/19 11:04:55 AM
#40
Holy_Pumpkin posted...
I hope plenty because she's a true progressive that has the people's best interests in mind and hasn't sold her soul for money and corporations.


She was one of the most conservative Dems in the House and has had/continues views that are essentially disqualifiying on Israel, Syria/Assad, Modi in India, gay rights, etc. The idea that she's a true progressive is simply incorrect.

If she was legitimately what you think she is, she'd be winning because she'd have attractiveness, public speaking skills, and being a veteran on her side. But in reality, she's a weirdo with weird opinions, votes, and connections.
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TopicI don't get Tulsi Gabbard's angle with Assad...like why
legendary_zell
08/01/19 12:44:26 PM
#19
CruelBuffalo posted...
legendary_zell posted...
You don't have to start a regime war to recognize reality and stop being weird. She does this on LGBT rights and too and she'd probably find a lot more support among the left if she didn't do weird stuff like this.

We need to be pulling away from support of all human rights abusers and stop supporting ones that support our current ideology or just oppose our current enemy. That starts with simply recognizing who is butchering their own people. It's not hard and there's no need for strawmen or whataboutism here.


Ive read on her Wiki that she has at least called out and apologized for her past stances. Does she still do a weird dance around it?

As long as she doesnt waver and is like, yeah I fucked up my bad, I wont knock her for her previous views. And I say this as a gay man. (I do LOOOOOOOL a while back some CEman was trying to paint her as the biggest LGBT ally and I was just like chiiiiiiiiillllldd)


That's the weird thing. She pretty much has found the right approach on LGBT issues. She recognized she had some heinous views and owned up to them and is now in the mainstream on those issues. That's what she needs to do on Assad. Again, that doesn't mean bombing them, sending troops, or even calling for regime change.
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TopicI don't get Tulsi Gabbard's angle with Assad...like why
legendary_zell
08/01/19 12:42:00 PM
#18
I watched her interview with Anderson Cooper after the debate last night and she was given so many easy outs to make her point while also acknowledging that Assad is a POS. She hemmed and hawwed and refused to do it and it was noticeably strange. She needs a better answer on these things.
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TopicI don't get Tulsi Gabbard's angle with Assad...like why
legendary_zell
08/01/19 12:39:05 PM
#14
You don't have to start a regime war to recognize reality and stop being weird. She does this on LGBT rights and too and she'd probably find a lot more support among the left if she didn't do weird stuff like this.

We need to be pulling away from support of all human rights abusers and stop supporting ones that support our current ideology or just oppose our current enemy. That starts with simply recognizing who is butchering their own people. It's not hard and there's no need for strawmen or whataboutism here.
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TopicCNN debate coverage doesnt even mention Andrew Yang
legendary_zell
08/01/19 10:24:00 AM
#8
That's not true. He was specifically mentioned as doing well. Van Jones yelled out Yang Gang twice. He was interviewed by the whole panel and asked interesting questions.
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TopicI dunno what it is but something about Kamala Harris that scares me.
legendary_zell
07/29/19 9:59:37 AM
#6
It's probably because she's black and a woman. Lettuce b cereal.
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TopicVirtue signalling is as obnoxious as flatulence.
legendary_zell
07/28/19 4:26:55 PM
#45
The right constantly virtue signals. They virtue signal about how they don't get offended and how they're not sensitive and how they are free speech absolutists. Even calling out virtue signalers is virtue signaling. See how ridiculous this use of the concept is now?
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TopicVirtue signalling is as obnoxious as flatulence.
legendary_zell
07/28/19 3:25:23 PM
#8
Patting yourself on the back for being a good person is better than being a bad person. Patting yourself on the back for spreading correct and helpful beliefs is better than spreading harmful beliefs. Even disingenuously going through the motions of being a good person is better than sincerely being a bad person. So what's your point?

This is one of the most idiotic buzzwords that people who take pride in their callousness, cruelty, and ignorance have invented to attack people who dare to call them out for their shitty behavior.
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Topic"I just thought we were friends this whole time"
legendary_zell
07/28/19 12:53:38 AM
#52
DeroIin posted...
Cleo_II posted...
Something you did on the first date turned her off, but she didnt know what to tell you so she gave you the friends line.


I wish she would have told me straight from the jump right then or even just talk with me about it the other 2 times we went out together


She doesn't owe you that. She told you that she wasn't interested, that's all that's necessary. She probably told you she wanted to be friends and hoped you would comply with that because you likely said you would, otherwise there wouldn't have been additional meetings. You can't just decide to date someone against their will and she did provide you with an explanation (again not required).

You have to develop self awareness and an "okay this one didn't work out, I'll try to improve and move on to the next one" mentality. The more you do it, the easier it gets.
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Topic"I just thought we were friends this whole time"
legendary_zell
07/28/19 12:15:05 AM
#46
Dude, it's important to remember that you're 22 and are only meeting a tiny trickle of people. You seem to be going down a dangerous path very early and it's not okay.

You are way too old to be in niceguy mode and thinking people are leading you on when they make it clear they aren't interested.

You are too young to be acting like no one will ever be interested and that you'll never find mutual attraction.

You have tons of time to improve your approach and your mindset, and that's what you should focus on. You have to work on knowing when to fold them. If someone tells you they're not interested, remember that they are an autonomous individual with their own likes and dislikes and do not take it as a personal rejection of your essence. Don't throw yourself at just anybody, at least try to screen for shared mindsets, hobbies, etc. When you do get a chance, do your best to be engaging, to be the best version of yourself and to make your interest unmistakable in a natural way. It's right personal mindset-right type of person-right approach. It might seem hard now, but it's much easier when you get the order right, it almost happens automatically. They will be attractive to you, you will not take it to heart if a specific girl isn't interested, but one will be interested, you will make yourself attractive to them, and then it doesn't feel like you're taking a huge leap of faith when you make a move and you have a much higher likelihood of success.

Try thinking/acting this way before becoming an incel.
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TopicCNN to host climate crisis town hall with Dem candidates in September
legendary_zell
07/26/19 5:47:57 PM
#8
Great, no justification not to. Hopefully it leads to something.
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TopicWanna take 4 days to make an egg big and blue?
legendary_zell
07/25/19 5:45:54 PM
#6
This feels vaguely satanic.
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TopicTrump goes full sexist and racist, says some congresswomen should 'go back' home
legendary_zell
07/14/19 12:01:06 PM
#53
NinjaBreakfast posted...
legendary_zell posted...
At least it's exclusively trolls defending this so far.

whenever it's something totally inexcusable (like this) the usual suspects just never post or acknowledge the topic.

things perceived as less bad might get a few attempts at derailing the topic at least.


That's true, until the right wing news blocs and forums can manage to come up with a spin. Let's see what they come up with here. If they want to just ignore it, then it's our job to keep bringing it up.
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TopicTrump goes full sexist and racist, says some congresswomen should 'go back' home
legendary_zell
07/14/19 11:52:23 AM
#47
At least it's exclusively trolls defending this so far. Hopefully that means this has at least some consequences for him. I don't see how Pelosi can argue for the Squad to work with him again after this, he doesn't respect them as Americans, much less as legislators.
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TopicTrump goes full sexist and racist, says some congresswomen should 'go back' home
legendary_zell
07/14/19 11:37:35 AM
#35
NeverOffended posted...
legendary_zell posted...
The President is a racist. The President is a white nationalist. Anyone who doesn't acknowledge that is a joke human being or agrees with him and this topic will prove it. @NeverOffended already has. He thinks trolling about old school racism is funny and that reacting negatively to it is being a triggered lib rather than a functional human being.


Uh oh looks like someone's feelings are hurt :(


Way to prove my point. You are the definition of an NPC.
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TopicTrump goes full sexist and racist, says some congresswomen should 'go back' home
legendary_zell
07/14/19 11:30:09 AM
#33
The President is a racist. The President is a white nationalist. Anyone who doesn't acknowledge that is a joke human being or agrees with him and this topic will prove it. @NeverOffended already has. He thinks trolling about old school racism is funny and that reacting negatively to it is being a triggered lib rather than a functional human being.
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TopicHow millennial are you guys?
legendary_zell
07/14/19 1:09:23 AM
#88
3....I've failed my generation. I am about to visit Brooklyn for the first time though, so I'll probably have most of these.
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Topic"Racism in America is dead! they need to stop complaining about it"
legendary_zell
07/12/19 5:23:05 PM
#28
KillerKhan420 posted...
It's not dead but it's overplayed by race baiters like you. The KKK literally has less than 10,000 members....it's in the thousands, maybe not even 8 thousand.

As for a statue, who cares. It's a damn statue it's not coming to life.


First, the KKK is one organization that reflects one type and level of racism, not the full range of it or its primary expression. In a country with huge mass incarceration, segregation, wealth and income inequality, and other racial issues, you can't point to KKK.

Second, you constantly defend racists and it's noticeable.
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Topic"Racism in America is dead! they need to stop complaining about it"
legendary_zell
07/12/19 4:37:47 PM
#10
How are the black citizens of Tennessee supposed to feel about this? Since Forrest represents Tennessee values, how should they feel about Tennessee? I guess they don't count. Or maybe they count as 3/5ths of a Tennessee citizen?
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TopicWhy do poor people have so many Goddamn kids?!?!
legendary_zell
07/12/19 4:00:38 PM
#96
tennisdude818 posted...
eCtnF68

The war on poverty started in the mid 60s.


I know that's the conclusion that you and the Heritage foundation are reaching, but that's not proof that the increase was caused by the welfare state. Other major societal shifts that affect poverty and the rate of single motherhood that accelerated during the time on that graph include women's liberation, decreasing unionization, the drug war, mass incarceration, loss of manufacturing jobs, and many others. I think you think that graph says a lot more than it actually does.
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TopicWhy do poor people have so many Goddamn kids?!?!
legendary_zell
07/12/19 3:49:12 PM
#93
EdgeMaster posted...
legendary_zell posted...
EdgeMaster posted...
legendary_zell posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
You get more of what you subsidize. We subsidize poor single moms, so we get a rising single motherhood rate along with all the additional crime and poverty associated with a high single motherhood rate.

Yeah who wouldn't want to be a single mom raising children in poverty? Truly a cushy gig.


The welfare enables this behavior, it doesnt make it desirable for people who arent already poor.


Very few people are getting cash assistance at this point. And the expenses of having a new kid significantly outweigh any increases in benefits that people get for each additional child. Do you really think people are going through pregnancy and childbirth for a few dozen extra dollars in food stamps per month?


Lol no. Newborn kids dont eat much but Uncle Sam will give someone who makes poor decisions about $400 per month for each kid they have.

Obviously this leads to problems down the road but 3-4 kids and you should be smooth sailing up until they all hit puberty and your up shits creek without a paddle or an adaquate income source.


This is a claim you should be able to back up, right, especially since you have attached a dollar amount and a number of children. Show me that cash assistance, food stamps, housing assistance add up to "smooth sailing" when taking into account work requirements, time limits, the actual expenses of raising a child etc.


My point was more so that they get quite a bit more than a few dozen extra dollars in food stamps for each child. Not that its a cozy real easy time raising a kid, much less 3-4, but for someone who is poor and has children they wouldnt be able to afford anyway the government checks make it a lot easier than it could be, especially for someone who doesnt have the desire or care to get a job, pay taxes and be a productive citizen. If they did well having 3-4 kidding would still pull in about as much as a minimum wage job would in a month. Plus the added bonus of not having to pay for daycare on a min wage salary because you can stay home with the kids when you dont have to work.

As far as actual numbers, go get out of the house and talk to people or hell, just look them up. They vary by state but generally a few hundred bucks a kid. Cant be fucked to do so nor do I give a rats ass if you believe me.

Source: know a few single mothers who claimed they havent seen the childs father in years/dont know which guy it is lol


My point is that whatever the amount of food stamps and other assistance, it's nowhere near the amount it would take to actually significantly subsidize child rearing to the extent that you're implying and they would only get that benefit for a few years maximum. It does make it easier than it would otherwise be, but that doesn't mean it is incentivizing having children. Those are two separate concepts.
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TopicWhy do poor people have so many Goddamn kids?!?!
legendary_zell
07/12/19 3:41:34 PM
#89
tennisdude818 posted...
legendary_zell posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
legendary_zell posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
You get more of what you subsidize. We subsidize poor single moms, so we get a rising single motherhood rate along with all the additional crime and poverty associated with a high single motherhood rate.

Yeah who wouldn't want to be a single mom raising children in poverty? Truly a cushy gig.


The welfare enables this behavior, it doesnt make it desirable for people who arent already poor.


Very few people are getting cash assistance at this point. And the expenses of having a new kid significantly outweigh any increases in benefits that people get for each additional child. Do you really think people are going through pregnancy and childbirth for a few dozen extra dollars in food stamps per month?


If its so inconsequential lets just end it. Nobody will even notice, right?


It's not inconsequential because it keeps them alive. That doesn't mean it's an incentive to have a child when that's still easily a net negative proposition. It takes $180k to raise a child from 0-18, you need to provide some evidence that food stamps etc are offsetting that in people's minds.


All you have to do is look at how much the single motherhood rate increased since LBJ. Im not making the case that welfare is at the top of a single moms mind when she is sleeping with yet another new guy who will be the absent father of kid #6. Im saying that if money could only be obtained via voluntary methods as opposed to government violence, money would be at the top of her mind much earlier. There would also be more pressure at the local community level to avoid that type of behavior than there is now, when the consequences are shifted to taxpayers 500 miles away.


Again, cite some evidence for this. It's a very strong empirical claim and requires strong evidence. Countless things have changed economically and culturally since 1964, but you're attributing changes in poverty directly to the limited availability of limited assistance for limited amounts of time. Not to mention trafficking in stereotypes without any factual support.

People without welfare who live at subsistence levels around the world also have many children and people had many children before the welfare state, and the numbers of children per household has fallen for all income levels over the years. You can't just combine libertarian rhetoric with welfare queen myths and expect to be persuasive.
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TopicWhy do poor people have so many Goddamn kids?!?!
legendary_zell
07/12/19 3:27:03 PM
#82
tennisdude818 posted...
Shablagoo posted...
aki_sora posted...
That why government need to make parent license to stop poor people make more kids

Someone promoting abject eugenics on CE? Never thought Id see the day.


The government should not pick sides at all. Thats what it does when it taxes people who are responsible to pay for people who are irresponsible. They make it harder for responsible people to have big families, and easier for irresponsible people to have big families.


The government has a responsibility not to leave children dying of hunger, that's much more important than your "don't pick winners and losers" mentality. Especially with all the myriad ways the government picks the rich and the middle class as winners through almost every policy area imaginable

"Welfare" is a tiny proportion of your tax burden and the federal budget, it's not the reason anyone's life is hard or why they have issues affording children. It is the reason why there aren't millions of people out on the streets begging for money and looking to rob you though.
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TopicWhy do poor people have so many Goddamn kids?!?!
legendary_zell
07/12/19 3:23:04 PM
#80
EdgeMaster posted...
legendary_zell posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
You get more of what you subsidize. We subsidize poor single moms, so we get a rising single motherhood rate along with all the additional crime and poverty associated with a high single motherhood rate.

Yeah who wouldn't want to be a single mom raising children in poverty? Truly a cushy gig.


The welfare enables this behavior, it doesnt make it desirable for people who arent already poor.


Very few people are getting cash assistance at this point. And the expenses of having a new kid significantly outweigh any increases in benefits that people get for each additional child. Do you really think people are going through pregnancy and childbirth for a few dozen extra dollars in food stamps per month?


Lol no. Newborn kids dont eat much but Uncle Sam will give someone who makes poor decisions about $400 per month for each kid they have.

Obviously this leads to problems down the road but 3-4 kids and you should be smooth sailing up until they all hit puberty and your up shits creek without a paddle or an adaquate income source.


This is a claim you should be able to back up, right, especially since you have attached a dollar amount and a number of children. Show me that cash assistance, food stamps, housing assistance add up to "smooth sailing" when taking into account work requirements, time limits, the actual expenses of raising a child etc.
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TopicWhy do poor people have so many Goddamn kids?!?!
legendary_zell
07/12/19 3:20:41 PM
#79
tennisdude818 posted...
legendary_zell posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
You get more of what you subsidize. We subsidize poor single moms, so we get a rising single motherhood rate along with all the additional crime and poverty associated with a high single motherhood rate.

Yeah who wouldn't want to be a single mom raising children in poverty? Truly a cushy gig.


The welfare enables this behavior, it doesnt make it desirable for people who arent already poor.


Very few people are getting cash assistance at this point. And the expenses of having a new kid significantly outweigh any increases in benefits that people get for each additional child. Do you really think people are going through pregnancy and childbirth for a few dozen extra dollars in food stamps per month?


If its so inconsequential lets just end it. Nobody will even notice, right?


It's not inconsequential because it keeps them alive. That doesn't mean it's an incentive to have a child when that's still easily a net negative proposition. It takes $180k to raise a child from 0-18, you need to provide some evidence that food stamps etc are offsetting that in people's minds.
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TopicWhy do poor people have so many Goddamn kids?!?!
legendary_zell
07/12/19 2:57:08 PM
#69
tennisdude818 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
You get more of what you subsidize. We subsidize poor single moms, so we get a rising single motherhood rate along with all the additional crime and poverty associated with a high single motherhood rate.

Yeah who wouldn't want to be a single mom raising children in poverty? Truly a cushy gig.


The welfare enables this behavior, it doesnt make it desirable for people who arent already poor.


Very few people are getting cash assistance at this point. And the expenses of having a new kid significantly outweigh any increases in benefits that people get for each additional child. Do you really think people are going through pregnancy and childbirth for a few dozen extra dollars in food stamps per month?
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TopicWhy do poor people have so many Goddamn kids?!?!
legendary_zell
07/12/19 1:14:41 PM
#24
It's free happiness, entertainment, connection. Plus lack of cultural and economic access to birth control and lack of reason not to. Rich people across societies have less children because they have more to lose.
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TopicA nuclear missile is headed for your exact location. 20 minutes. What do?
legendary_zell
07/11/19 6:05:42 PM
#54
Doomed due to rush hour traffic so I'd call my parents and closest friends as quickly as possible then walk to the closest liquor store and just chug stuff off the shelves.
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TopicHow to pick up beautiful women as a 5'5" gamer. My tricks.
legendary_zell
07/09/19 6:14:58 PM
#16
You lift with your knees of course.
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TopicStaunch NRA supporter talks about the new ammo background check in California
legendary_zell
07/09/19 6:09:47 PM
#9
Abiz_ posted...
Solar_Crimson posted...
Voter ID laws were specifically made to curb certain people--typically those in the inner city--from voting.

Yeah, keep abusing that racist stereotype that Black people don't have ID.


Republicans, including lawmakers have admitted the laws are intended to have that effect and have admitted they're fine with it at the very least and studies have shown that it does/will have the effect of disenfranchising black and brown people.

Stop your concern trolling because as a black person your concern for "racism" is unwanted.
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Topic"When your first time having sex was rape"
legendary_zell
07/03/19 4:06:42 PM
#58
COVxy posted...
This is why "educating men" isn't the solution here. Men know they are being pieces of shit, they just decide that their pleasure is more important than a woman's life.


I don't think this wide of a statement is accurate. There's a lot of people who are genuinely ignorant of boundaries and who have learned very toxic behavioral scripts that wouldn't behave the way they do if they had been taught differently from an early age.

You're right that this kid isn't one of them, he's a knowing, gleeful rapist.
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Topic"When your first time having sex was rape"
legendary_zell
07/03/19 2:00:29 PM
#35
Esrac posted...
I mean, I'd say we are not just the worst thing we've ever done and maybe the kind of person you are should carry some weight in sentencing. But this is a really bad take by that judge.


This type of empathy is rarely extended to non-white, non-rich people. Our entire criminal justice system is built on doing the opposite. It would be nice to see you and other non-sjws pushing this idea in other contexts.
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TopicWhat's more depressing, JFK or Abraham Lincoln's assassination?
legendary_zell
06/28/19 3:53:09 PM
#17
Buchanan is up there for a lot of the same reasons, but Grant didn't do anything with nearly the long term impact of Grant and Johnson's failures.
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TopicWhat's more depressing, JFK or Abraham Lincoln's assassination?
legendary_zell
06/28/19 3:44:23 PM
#15
Lincoln's death directly to our worst President Andrew Johnson who abandoned black people when our country's race problems actually had a chance to be solved, dooming us to 100+ years of apartheid and discrimination, and setting up our current issues.

So that.
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TopicLive: First Round of Democrat debates. Live Youtube Link Inside.
legendary_zell
06/26/19 11:09:04 PM
#250
Warren>Castro>De Blasio>Booker>Insley>Gabbard>>>Others

Castro did himself a lot of favors because I hadn't given him a single thought and he impressed tonight. Beto is the big loser most likely, he gave vague ass answers and sounded rehearsed.

Warren did great.
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TopicLive: First Round of Democrat debates. Live Youtube Link Inside.
legendary_zell
06/26/19 10:48:21 PM
#222
Spooking posted...
MonkeyBones23 posted...
Obviously Tim Ryan never had a chance to be President, but he absolutely demolished himself with that last answer.

Tim Ryan: *says something dumb*
Tulsi Gabbard: *corrects him*
Tim Ryan: *burst into flames*
Time Ryan: NOT THIS WAY!


Time Ryan has a way better chance than Tim Ryan.
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TopicLive: First Round of Democrat debates. Live Youtube Link Inside.
legendary_zell
06/26/19 10:43:37 PM
#209
Lol, that Trump answer was lame. Climate change is the answer.
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TopicLive: First Round of Democrat debates. Live Youtube Link Inside.
legendary_zell
06/26/19 10:31:56 PM
#182
LMAO, she hasn't gotten to talk for an hour and now this is it? She deserves it tho.
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TopicLeft handed people are among the most discriminated against minority of all time
legendary_zell
06/24/19 2:48:12 PM
#13
In some cultures they really are treated pretty badly.
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TopicWhite woman raped and beaten because of slavery
legendary_zell
06/21/19 10:09:39 AM
#74
It's not blowing up because there's no actual controversy here. No one is going to spend hours on Facebook arguing that he did nothing wrong and that she deserved it. 99.99999 percent of the population will agree that he should be thrown under the jail. This isn't a Ferguson or Trayvon situation where there's debates about self defense, implicit bias, policeman brutality, interpretations of videos etc. There's no one out there taking the guy's side.

It's just heinous crime that will no doubt earn the guy life in prison if not the DP and possible hate crime charges. It's not evidence of some media conspiracy against white people.
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