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Okay, for the record, I"m talking about games that don't, or very sparingly use, 3D models. Smash 64 is a 2D fighting game, but it's still 3D modeled.

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MrResetti posted...

This is the most obvious one I can't believe TC forgot.

Paper Mario is a 3D game.

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BlockAddition posted...

it doesn't spoil anything, you only know that's what's happening in the picture because you've seen it in game

I mean, I haven't seen it in game and I know what's happening. FF7 is the Empire Strikes Back of video games in that regard.

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https://www.humblebundle.com/games/jdrf-adventure

If you like what Telltale does, I'm guessing this will be great for you. If you don't know what Telltale does, it's only a dollar to get what is apparently their best work, Walking Dead Season 1.

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SpaceBear_ posted...

This reminded me of Aerith's death being spoiled on the back of the European FF7 case.

wait what

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Japan didn't have it as good as PAL, although perfectly fine, but at least they didn't have the American box art

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berlyman101 posted...

there was the Kirby crystals one.

Kirby 64 was very much 3D

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Seems like Nintendo mandated that all N64 games be 3D.

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We were robbed.

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it's a fucking video you put the controller down for

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Bump

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the fuck

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So this is how Sharknado started

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Cleanup time?

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Oh yeah, why do all of the pilots speak English?

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My god, Conrad's voice acting is sublime.

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So this is where the budget went

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Oh man, the entire palace is coming down! Know what we should do? Stay in place and try to kill one person who has killed tens, if not hundreds, of people just like us!

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Oh so everyone's going to die huh

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Squick

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ProfessorKukui posted...

This Et Al dude sure writes a lot of papers

Not as much as this a priori guy

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I don't understand this term, better Google something that explains what it is.
Ah, I found it, but now this explanation is using a term I also don't understand, better Google something that explains what it is.
Great, now THIS explanation is using a term I also don't understand, better Google something that explains what it is.
Ah, now it all makes sense. Now I can get back to learning about the previous term.
Damn, another term I don't understand, better Google something that explains what it is.
repeat ad infinitum

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Get Spec Ops: The Line

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BlazinBlue88 posted...

What made you grab MGS4 instead of the Legacy collection?

I have never seen Legacy Collection in the wild

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spanky1 posted...

Nixon didnt gleefully, like a cartoon villain, encourage 50% of the American population hate the other 50%.

Yeah, he gleefully encouraged 85% of the American population to hate 11% of the American population.

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I Like Toast posted...

Must be nice to see the world in red and blue huh?

If you actually read what I posted you'd know I said that Obama lead to Trump because he was too right-wing. If Obama did actually left-wing policies that solve problems instead of incrementalism, there wouldn't have been an anger from the working class for Trump to capitalize on.

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gunplagirl posted...

Eh. DDDs. Still doesn't really feel large looking down.

You're already part of the mammaric 1% with what you have right now, though.

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Oct 31 = Dec 25

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Halloween is Christmas

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I Like Toast posted...

Then I know your opinions aren't worth reading

Must be nice to write off criticism of Obama and not have to think about all the bad things he did huh

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Crono99 posted...

One thing that's important is that the US, in many ways, functions kind of like a united nations of sovereign states rather than as a country. States in the US have a lot more power than regions or provinces generally have in western countries. This is obvious when you look at how you can only appeal decisions from a state supreme court to the US supreme court if it involves a question of federal law - in the rest of the world, the federal supreme court absolutely has the power to overturn a state/provincial supreme court on a matter of purely state/provincial law.

Sure, senators from Wyoming represent much less people than California. But if you go back historically, getting all those states to join the union was a very difficult process and this kind of thing was negotiated.

Fixing all the things "wrong" with democracy in the US like suggested in the OP would be extremely hard because it would go directly against the reasons why many states even agreed to be part of the union in the first place.

And what? Is Wyoming going to secede and become an independent country completely landlocked by the US? Independence movements are simply not popular and the original 13 colonies ain't going anywhere. The Three Fifths rule was a compromise to get Southern states to join the US, but I don't see you talking about how undermining it would go against the reason the states joined in the first place.

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I Like Toast posted...

Without obama there is no trump either but I wouldn't hold that against obama

I would. Trump couldn't capitalize on the anger of workers whose jobs were outsourced under Obama, people whose economic situation hadn't improved in 8 years, people whose healthcare was still too expensive because Obamacare was Nixon's healthcare plan from 40 years ago that didn't go far enough, those who opposed interventionist wars that Obama continued, and those who saw not a single Wall Street executive be prosecuted or even punished for their financial crimes that broke the Earth, with not even a safeguard in place to prevent future Great Recessions, all under Obama, if Obama wasn't a terrible neoliberal who didn't govern like how he campaigned.

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Questionmarktarius posted...

Article 1 states no more than one representative per 30000 (minimum one), which would be about 10,900.

Fuck it, why not?

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Nixon codified the Southern Strategy, started the War on Drugs that is still ongoing nearly 50 years later, and extended the Vietnam War for 7 years purely for his own political gain. Without Nixon, there is no Trump.

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The_Ivory_Man posted...

There are other problems I have with this, and some things I do, at least in part agree with but I'm just going to focus on it.

Alright seriously, I've seen this repeated again and again and it is completely nonsensical and I can't imagine anyone talking about it puts any thought into itself whatsoever.

How does inflating the total amount of people help anything, at all?

The number of representatives is already broken down by the population in each state.

There is nothing that would benefit from having over a thousand people screeching at each other instead of just a few hundred.

Wyoming is already overrepersented by having 1 representative. If Wyoming was the baseline, the House would have around 550 seats. That aside, smaller constituencies make your vote matter more wherever you live (and thus candidates have to focus more on pleasing you) and allow candidates not from the 2 major parties a chance to get elected. The UK has roughly a quarter the population of the US and yet it has over 200 more seats, with each seat representing about 100,000 people. If we did that in the US, we'd be looking at about 3,200 seats. 8 times the people, 8 times the number of people a corporation needs to bribe donate to in order to buy the government.

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onedarksoul posted...

I agree with all of this. I got out of college just in time. Students today are getting screwed with those costs. However what you're leaving out is that the U.S. is ranked #2 in terms of spend per pupil, behind Norway but is ranked
* OECD international math ranking in 2015: 36
* OECD international reading ranking in 2015: 18
* OECD international science ranking in 2015: 23
There are two issues with education in America: why isn't the amount of money being spent isn't increasing student performance, and second where is the money being generated going exactly, if not toward that first goal.
Source: https://www.insider.com/how-much-countries-around-the-world-spend-on-education-2019-8

Administrators are notoriously overpaid in comparison to teachers, but it can't just be one group of people responsible for the terrible outcomes we have. I'm going to bet a lot of it has to do with the school system on the whole addressing students as a monolith, going too fast for some people and too slow for others, not being engaging for the students (as schools are treated much more like daycare than actual education), paying teachers less than, while working longer hours than, the rest of the world, and archaic curriculums that don't apply nearly as much to the real world. American grade school focuses much more on rote memorization (as can be seen with bog standard multiple choice and true/false questions) than critical thinking (which would be embodied by essays and general free response questions).

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furb posted...

We can criticize the efficacy of these structures in modernity, but we have to address the whys of their existance.

Okay, but the country is not set in stone. We (should) have the ability to change it, and we should, unless you don't like democracy.

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gunplagirl posted...

Stupid 4mb limit. Though my phone doesn't compress file sizes any.

Damn, I didn't realize your boobs were that big.

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Before you respond to this post with "WE'RE A REPUBLIC NOT A DEMOCRACY BECAUSE IF YOU HAD A DIRECT DEMOCRACY THE MAJORITY WOULD OPPRESS THE MINORITY", a republic is a representative democracy and representatives are still elected democratically. The majority oppressing the minority still happens in the current system. In many cases, the reverse happens and the minority oppresses the majority. With that said,

• The Electoral College does not reflect the popular vote
• The Electoral College makes peoples' votes count more or less depending on where they live; 1 electoral vote in California represents roughly 720,000 people whereas 1 electoral vote in Wyoming represents roughly 190,000 people, so Wyomingites' votes count almost 4 times as much as Californians' do
• The House of Representatives is locked at 435 seats, which means the same Electoral College inequity in representation is present in the House, although it's nowhere near as egregious
• The House districts are drawn by the state legislature, so the party in power can gerrymander as much as they want as long as the intention is not provably to disenfranchise based on race, resulting in consistent elections where the majority of the population votes for the Democratic Party, but the majority of seats are taken by Republicans, even at the state level
• The Senate is completely undemocratic; California's senators represent about 20 million people each while Wyoming's senators represent less than 300,000 each, and yet their votes have equal power.
• First Past the Post voting makes a system where two parties dominate nearly inevitable and the Spoiler Effect discourages third parties
• As a result of FPTP, despite there being enough people specifically registered as libertarian (which is much less than the total number of people who may vote libertarian) to warrant a seat in Congress by population, the only member of the libertarian party ever to be part of Congress is Justin Amash in this year, because he defected from the Republican Party
• Voter suppression is an extremely prominent issue that disproportionately affects minorities, with some states blatantly targeting minorities. This aside, most states require a photo ID that not all people (notably the elderly) may not have through no fault of their own, and even then, only certain photo IDs apply
• Depending on the state, prisoners (who are disproportionately minorities) may be able to vote, but they may also lose their voting rights while in prison or even after they are released. As a reminder, the US has by far the largest prison population in the world.
• Election days are not state or national holidays and many may choose to work rather than vote, if they even have the choice; absentee ballots are often, but not always available, and may not be granted to you even if you apply for one and have a "legitimate" reason (which in and of itself is also exclusionary) for not voting in person
• United States citizens that live in territories have no representation in Congress, instead electing "observers" that cannot vote, and, DC aside, cannot vote for President. This applies to over 4 million people worldwide, and is particularly egregious in the case of Puerto Rico, which has a population greater than 20 US states (and DC) that do have representation in Congress. US citizens can vote from foreign countries and the entirety of space, but not territories.
• While the maximum cap on individual donations to a candidate's campaign is $2800, PACs and super PACs can receive and spend unlimited funds to run ads for a candidate. They do not have to report who or what their money comes from, nor do they have to report how they spend the money. This often leads to corporations or high-ranking members having an influence on the policy a candidate enacts. It goes without saying that poorer people will contribute less than those that are well-off. Lobbying further compounds this, but it's a whole other can of worms.
• Campaigns are extremely costly and unless the candidate can afford months without income or wasting tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of dollars if they don't win, they're unlikely to win or even attempt to run.
• Depending on the state, the salary of a member of a state legislature may not be enough to cover the costs of living, and so the wealthy are again much more likely to run.
• Public policy does not reflect polling the overwhelming majority of the time; for example the bill that effectively repealed net neutrality polled at 17%. Nearly 60% of American state that the war in Afghanistan (which is 19 years old) is not worth fighting. A Princeton study found that America functions as an oligarchy rather than a democracy.

This does not even touch on the myriad ways the US violates its own constitution, violates international law, is far behind the rest of the developed world, allows racism to flourish, continues enacting deeply unpopular policies, and works in the interest of corporations. I know I'm missing tons of issues just with the democratic process. I wish we lived in a democracy, but as it stands, we don't.

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https://scoop.me/housing-first-finland-homelessness/

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Romes187 posted...

The worst part about debating Marxism is having to listen to all the unemployed useless people try and justify their own failings by blaming something other than their own lack of talent or grit

Let's not act like you're not starting behind the 8 ball in America if you're born into a poor or even middle-class household. The public education system has been gutted, especially compared to private schools, with a huge lack of funding, larger class sizes, being ill-equipped to accommodate for both those who need help and the exceptional, underpaid and overworked teachers, and crumbling infrastructure.

My elementary, middle, and high schools all tested positive for having dangerous amounts of lead in their water fountains, and the newest of the three (my middle school) was built in 1974, with the others being built in the early 60's, my mom (who works at an elementary school) only got a pay raise because the school stopped paying into her retirement for her and now she needs to do it herself. I was considered "gifted" and so I got into a magnet elementary school, but it was so hostile to my ADHD and sickliness that I was forced to return to my old elementary school. You have to pay for your gym uniform in middle and high school and you have to pay up front if you're going to take certain classes. My high school did not offer AP Physics C, which would have allowed me to get my physics degree a semester early and save about $15K in the process, because the only physics teacher there was too busy teaching 3 different classes already. Students in the same school system had to drive themselves over to my school to take AP Physics 2. AP exams, which can potentially save upwards of 90% of what you would pay for an equivalent class in college, still cost nearly $100 a pop. The very existence of AP classes didn't come out of concern for students not being challenged enough by the curriculum material, it came out of the American government being scared shitless by Sputnik. I haven't even scratched the surface of just the issues I've personally had to deal with, and this is in a school district that is considered to be one of the better ones in the country, but at least you don't have to pay for this school system that fails miserably at educating the people its very purpose is to educate.

College, on the other hand, has been completely ruined by the profit motive. You need at least a bachelor's degree for most well-paying jobs that don't destroy your body in the long term. Despite operating costs being down due to the school being closed due to Corona, my college tuition has gone up for the fall semester and I'll likely be facing around $50k of student loan debt despite my parents saving since the day I was born, choosing an in-state college, and doing my damndest to finish early. Textbooks alone have gone up in price at nearly 3 times the rate of inflation, include one-time-use online homework codes with new textbooks so you have to buy them new for some classes, textbook companies will make university-specific versions of their textbook so you can't get a used one, textbook companies also sometimes make paperback-only versions with course worksheets inside them so that they can't be resold, and they reorder the chapters and homework problems in their textbooks that contain the same information so that old versions can't be used for assigned homework. That's not even considering the fact that the increasing cost of college outpaces inflation nearly 5 times over, so someone who doesn't have the advantages I have can look forward to an ante of over $100K of student loan debt just to play the game of the American job market. Once you get out of college, you can look forward to astronomical rent that will continue to increase despite your wages staying the same on top of a whole load of other things I can't even list in this post that continue to drag you down no matter how hard you try.

It takes an amount of "talent" and "grit" that most people can't muster, and that's if they even get a chance to. You can scream about pulling yourself up by your bootstraps from the rooftops all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that some people don't have boots or arms. There are people in this country that work full time and are still homeless. I'm not a Marxist, but it doesn't take a Marxist to see that the system is fundamentally broken and needs change.

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I'm curious as to what their definition of "gamer" is, but it's not like "gamer" should be exclusionary to begin with.

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UnfairRepresent posted...

The point I thought you were going to make which I would have agreed with, are people who go "Well that's not how the game designers wanted you to play! Therefore it's wrong!" like Dark Souls fans scream.

Honestly, that's probably the bigger issue. The worst I've seen is Undertale fans screaming at someone playing the game for the first time not to kill anything, even though the game has an absurd amount of endings that specifically judge you for how much you did kill.

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Questionmarktarius posted...

Unfortunately, Marx failed to foresee his great "classless society" becoming a class conflict between the state apparatus and everyone else.

Eh, right now it's a conflict between corporations (and the people who run them) that have bought the people who run the state and everyone else.

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Some people don't wear masks now so we will have to wear them for longer.

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Cheese_Crackers posted...

Who defines "correct way to play"? Seriously asking since I haven't played any Metal Gear games.

The "correct way" to play most stealth games is to kill nobody (unless your mission is to kill someone) and be spotted by nobody, and not doing so is usually very punishing. Some of the most fun I've had in a stealth game is playing Hitman 2 and improvising after I fucked up (the final mission of Patient Zero takes this to the extreme), but if I was playing "correctly" (what is heavily encouraged and sometimes the only way to play), I would never see that side of the game.

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BignutzisBack posted...

Of course playing a game using non-lethal methods is going to lock out the majority of weapons, what the hell dude?

If you want to play nonlethally, that's fine. However, when the "correct" way to play is nonlethally (the ultimate challenge of the game requires 0 kills and if you do kill someone, you're usually better off starting from scratch), it drives people away from experiencing the full mechanical complexity of the game.

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I love Metal Gear to death, but a nonlethal run locks you out of like 80% of all of the weapons in the game. A Game Over if Spotted run locks you out of having to think about the entire evasion phase of the game. People put a lot of work into those mechanics, and the people who play these games the most will rarely see them, if at all.

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