Lurker > HaRRicH

Cuphead's doing worse than expected for sure, but it was a good point someone had about GTA's bracket-support. Another update or two will tell us a lot.

Feeling good about Xenoblade > Persona 3 at the moment.

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KamiqualityPotato

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Oh man, with Yacht Club's tweet just being an hour old by the time the next match starts, that is gonna help Cuphead.

Prepare for an even crazier first five minutes in that match. Cuphead's taking it home.

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KamikazePotato posted...

I'll hold you to this when CD Project Red nukes our entire contest with a tweet.

"And now...a Nintendo Direct rally."

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KamikazePotato posted...

Can't wait for all the people who complained about rallies to be okay with this

You could win me over on companies getting more involved in rallying for matches if most of them did. I feel like newer companies are more likely to take the lead on a movement like this than Nintendo and Square.

As is though...it's wacky-fun hype but also now may cost us the nail-biter finish we were looking likely to have. Mixed feelings.

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Well this match is wildin' out.

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Shovel Knight turned a six-vote deficit into a six-foot hole with one swift scoop.

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Reddit rally analysis barrier activated.

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"Oh, you have multiple playable characters Octopath? Tell me more."
--a bunch of angry knights

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I think the talking point of "we want accurate information for predicting future contests" is misleading. We want accurate information for understanding where we as GameFAQs-minded people are. That will always shift over time, but if nobody here likes LoL then we don't feel represented when Draven rushes it's way from another site to a championship. Predicting future contests better isn't the pressing matter for me there.

Abd if rallies are better, somebody build a bracket based around the most rally-capable games and we'll see how exciting that is. Seed it and set the matches up.

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ZeldaTPLink posted...

Octopath gained 100 extra votes in 10 minutes the moment the rally was pinned. That's not an assumption, the data is there.

Between this and the reddit sticky being up for about two and a half hours now, it seems clear this is gonna make an impact on a game with a vote lead of 166. Octopath absolutely could win this without the rallies, but this is assistance that can decide a winner too.

Is this rally more fun for anyone else now than the match already was? I'll deal with one this size, but I wouldn't call it more fun than before the rally either.

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I thiiiiink Rayman took the lead about 8:00 AM Eastern.

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Writing's on the wall with the trends and rally attempt. I'm rooting for Shovel Knight but OT is still doing well.

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These rally attempts by the losing games are sad. Do it for both games in a match and help GameFAQs boost its popularity up a bit more or stop trying to push unfairly for the sake of your brackets.

Good show OT.

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Weird thing to see coming ahead soon.

Top two LoZ-games from the '90s: OoT and LttP
Top two LoZ-games from the 2000s: MM and TP
Top two LoZ-games from the '10s: BotW and LBW

We are on our way to seeing a SIGNIFICANTLY bigger gap between the top two LoZ-games this decade compared to the others.

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SSBU/LoZ:LBW is the highest-quality match when combining the two games this contest...too bad the wrong game's winning between them, but both are outstanding.

I bragged on SMO last round as a Star of the Round, but this time I am not. 71% on DMC5 versus 65% on LoZ:LBW is a no-brainer to me unless you think SSBU is SFF'ing LoZ:LBW, but I don't believe that's happening here.

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I used to think OT was an indie game, but yeah, now I know they are separate games. Edited for clarity.

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So after today, it's hard to deny Octopath Traveler is legit. It's narrowly between Undertale and Shovel Knight...and I know as someone who gave Undertale Turd of the Round it's easy to diss it for not going three rounds deep like many of us expected, but we're starting to get a feel for the top ranges of our strongest indie games and Octopath is right there with the indie games. I might take two other indie games over Octopath, and if that's all then Undertale losing to Octopath be 3.29% is pretty redeeming in its own right. It still falls short to me since I thought Undertale would be the strongest indie game, but this isn't an embarrassing difference of strength -- just a surprising opponent.

And now I'm back to not ruling out Undertale beating FFXV.

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Team Rocket Elite posted...

Octopath is getting buried.

I dig this pun.

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Weird time for a rally to catch any traction. This could be repeatable, or, not -- not sure yet. That's an x-factor that could take what I thought was a real even-lookibg match next round into Bloodborne's match to lose.

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I've been interested in Edith Finch and only really know it's a well-received walking simulator. Do I need to know more or not before gambling my money on whether or not to try this soon? I adore the Stanley Parable but wasn't crazy about Dear Esther > Gone Home > The Beginner's Guide.

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Dark Souls is scary because I can be attacked from the menu screen. Eff that.

And RE7 definitely isn't VR only. My impression was that the game marketed itself largely as the first AAA VR game...so I could get the confusion here, but yeah, no VR required per say.

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How many indie games could pull off the upset Hollow Knight failed to complete against FFXV? I'd feel alright with Cuphead and Shovel Knight, and I'd feel riiiiiiiisky with Ori and Undertale.

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INDIE GAMES THAT LOST IN ROUND 2 (2):

Hollow Knight - 49.58% (versus Final Fantasy XV)
Hollow Knight - 62.81% (versus Tales or Berseria)

Bastion - 28.09% (versus Dragon Quest XI)
Bastion - 52.25% (versus The Walking Dead)

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INDIE GAMES THAT WON IN ROUND 1:

Minecraft - 75.71% (versus Dota 2)
Stardew Valley - 71.17% (versus Destiny)
Divinity: Original Sin 2 - 69.22% (versus Hearthstone)
Super Meat Boy - 68.96% (versus Slay the Spire)
Cuphead - 68.28% (versus XCOM 2)
Journey - 66.2% (versus Fate/Grand Order)
Shovel Knight - 64.4% (versus Dragon's Dogma)
Ori and the Blind Forest - 51.91% (versus Dragon Age: Inquisition)
Rocket League - 51.66% (versus Dragon Ball FighterZ)

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INDIE GAMES THAT LOST IN ROUND 1 (20):

Celeste - 49.55% (versus Rayman Legends)
Undertale - 46.71% (versus Octopath Traveler)
The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth - 43.47% (versus Nioh)
Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night - 40.9% (versus Borderlands 2)
Terraria - 32.31% (versus BioShock Infinite)
Disco Elysium - 31.94% (versus Kingdom Hearts 3)
Slay the Spire - 31.04% (versus Super Meat Boy)
Crypt of the NecroDancer - 28.47% (versus Final Fantasy XIV)
VVVVVV - 28.28% (versus Fallout 4)
Dead Cells - 27.49% (versus Metal Gear Solid V)
What Remains of Edith Finch - 25.35% (versus Final Fantasy XV)
The Witness - 22.61% (versus Yakuza 0)
FTL: Faster Than Light - 22.23% (versus Persona 4 Golden)
Baba is You - 20.73% (versus Grand Theft Auto V)
The Stanley Parable - 20.6% (versus Fallout: New Vegas)
Night in the Woods - 18.04% (versus Pokemon HeartGold/SoulSilver)
Hotline Miami - 17.01% (versus Dark Souls)
Subnautica - 16% (versus Skyrim)
INSIDE - 13.94% (versus DOOM)
Return of the Obra Dinn - 12.75% (versus Super Mario Galaxy 2)

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REmake 2/Bloodborne is gonna be a good match next round. I can see FE:A getting 55% or so on DOOM, but I also can't see Resident Evil fans letting this one drop in a wave of REmake 3 fans coming to the site. I expect that one to be competitive.

Hell of a show by ME2, too (especially if FO 4 was constant which lol it's not, but just imagine the reactions if it beat The Witcher 3 by just a little less than this). I've got REmake 2 > ME2 in my bracket but I'm inclined to think this puts ME2 into favorite-status.

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NFUN posted...

gonna go with SMB vs Slay the Spire. Incredible that Indie games got 100% of the votes in that match. Truly a stomp

I laughed more than this deserved. Good job.

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Also, now that we're at the finish line...FF7R saved FFXV.

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SB just announced 400 votes for FFXV were rallies, wow.

...

Psyche...but could you imagine. When was the last entrant to have votes removed anyway?

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CT probably beats LoZ:OoT that year, the argument is legitimately there...but that doesn't mean I'm taking that pick post-Switch.

We're gonna need an announcement of something like Chrono Ages: Episode 1 to get me back on board.

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Cool job, thank you for trying this out! I didn't realize how different the lists could look like in comparison, wow.

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I knew people liked Bloodstained enough, but I didn't know people were so into it to get into a contest, break 40% on a former GotY (even if it's just Borderlands 2), and have so many people recommend it here.

I've had a stream of it on in the background today -- looks cool.

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That's fair.

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Lightning Strikes posted...

Its the goat contest run because it was all unrallied. Tifa vs. Mega Man X was an all-timer too.

I mean, should these two sentences be together? Tifa was pretty uniquely rallied.

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More seriously, 2016 wasn't a great year for games being strong here:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6575-best-of-2016-game-of-the-year-final-vote

FF15 ended up winning GotY here, but it did lose this poll to a Pokemon game before doing that so that'll question its ceiling in a contest. We also saw Uncharted 4 drop its match again Mario Kart 8 easily.

If we go back one poll to the first overall GotY that year:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6574-best-of-2016-game-of-the-year

I wasn't impressed with Overwatch's win over Death Stranding. DOOM crushed INSIDE and Stardew Valley smacked up Destiny, definitely, but those matches might not mean that much. We'll learn more about Overwatch/DOOM/SV when they face Xenoblade/REmake 2/SMG2 this round.

Meanwhile, Hollow Knight's exceeding expectations and is another game from 2017 that has been looking good in the meanwhile, however, so it's impressing me more than FF15 is failing me.

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Yes.

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And I'm taking Cuphead. It landed a doubling in his first match, it very well could take down a one-seed and be one of the few indie games to reach the third round, and we've been seeing other games from 2017 lob grenades this contest too.

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Thought this would be relevant:

ROUND 1 INDIE WINNERS (11):

Minecraft - 75.71% (versus Dota 2)
Stardew Valley - 71.17% (versus Destiny)
Divinity: Original Sin 2 - 69.22% (versus Hearthstone)
Super Meat Boy - 68.96% (versus Slay the Spire)
Cuphead - 68.28% (versus XCOM 2)
Journey - 66.2% (versus Fate/Grand Order)
Shovel Knight - 64.4% (versus Dragon's Dogma)
Hollow Knight - 62.81% (versus Tales or Berseria)
Bastion - 52.25% (versus The Walking Dead)
Ori and the Blind Forest - 51.91% (versus Dragon Age: Inquisition)
Rocket League - 51.66% (versus Dragon Ball FighterZ)

ROUND 1 INDIE LOSERS (20):

Celeste - 49.55% (versus Rayman Legends)
Undertale - 46.71% (versus Octopath Traveler)
The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth - 43.47% (versus Nioh)
Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night - 40.9% (versus Borderlands 2)
Terraria - 32.31% (versus BioShock Infinite)
Disco Elysium - 31.94% (versus Kingdom Hearts 3)
Slay the Spire - 31.04% (versus Super Meat Boy)
Crypt of the NecroDancer - 28.47% (versus Final Fantasy XIV)
VVVVVV - 28.28% (versus Fallout 4)
Dead Cells - 27.49% (versus Metal Gear Solid V)
What Remains of Edith Finch - 25.35% (versus Final Fantasy XV)
The Witness - 22.61% (versus Yakuza 0)
FTL: Faster Than Light - 22.23% (versus Persona 4 Golden)
Baba is You - 20.73% (versus Grand Theft Auto V)
The Stanley Parable - 20.6% (versus Fallout: New Vegas)
Night in the Woods - 18.04% (versus Pokemon HeartGold/SoulSilver)
Hotline Miami - 17.01% (versus Dark Souls)
Subnautica - 16% (versus Skyrim)
INSIDE - 13.94% (versus DOOM)
Return of the Obra Dinn - 12.75% (versus Super Mario Galaxy 2)

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Hug. Sorry to hear -- your cat looks a lot like my first cat as an adult.

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Taaaaaaaaaaaaaag.

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LoZ:SS may be the weakest Zelda game, but in 2011 it still beat Batman: Arkham City and Portal 2 and those two games are still favored to reach the third round. We see LoZ:LBW still looking like a game with legitimate strength too, so...barring abnormal contest draws, I think LoZ:SS would have been fine.

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Don't know much about a game featured today? Well we're past the first round now, so we're got sixty-four remaining games we probably ought to know something about. Come share something cool about the hits in question today -- some of us ain't played them and could stand to see what makes them worth noticing!

(trying to make GameFAQs's favorite games more accessible, ya'll)

Today's games:

LoZ:BotW
Halo: Reach
FFXV
Hollow Knight
Monster Hunter World
Sekiro
Bastion
Dragon Quest 11

I'll start: Bastion has this cool song that sounded like nothing I ever heard before, and it was its battle music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPWmrwF4MOI

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Heropon_Riki posted...

Oh also Xenoblade Chronicles X is an underappreciated masterpiece that deserved better than the Wii U's small player base could give it. It got snubbed by not even making the list at all. It's every bit as good as Xenoblade and Xenoblade 2. Better even, and that's coming from somebody whose username is based on the original Xenoblade.

Literally didn't realize X and 2 were different games.

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Just taking a moment to vouch for:

Celeste
Life is Strange
Night in the Woods
The Stanley Parable
Undertale

MechanicalWall posted...

Damn, there's a LOT of my favorites that lost R1. LiS, Bloodstained, Celeste, Undertale, these are like half of my top 10 right there

I kinda feel this way about my to ten too -- Binding of Isaac, Undertale, The Stanley Parable, Life is Strange, The Witness...all gone in the first round. Oh well.

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Well, before Remake.

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Appreciate the cred on Ori/Rayman -- know your platformers! Also though, I picked Destiny/Witness/Hearthstone this contest, so I'm really not sure I've earned much cred so far.

I've been most impressed with those who called for Octopath > Undertale.

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LeonhartFour posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3285-division-5-round-2-ryu-h-zero-snake-vivi

I once remember BT saying that if Solid Snake got the 43% in this match I predicted he would, he'd leave the board forever

and then backpedaled afterwards because we never "officially" made a bet

This was the same contest I had my only account bet on, where I predicted Solid Snake would beat Mega Man and BT predicted otherwise. Our stipulation was that Zero couldn't be in the poll.

Zero made the poll.

It was pretty disappointing we didn't get that match...but the last time this topic came up in here, to BT's credit, he owned Mega Man was gonna lose that match as we originally bet on with or without Zero.

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ROUND 1 INDIE WINNERS (11):

Minecraft - 75.71% (versus Dota 2)
Stardew Valley - 71.17% (versus Destiny)
Divinity: Original Sin 2 - 69.22% (versus Hearthstone)
Super Meat Boy - 68.96% (versus Slay the Spire)
Cuphead - 68.28% (versus XCOM 2)
Journey - 66.2% (versus Fate/Grand Order)
Shovel Knight - 64.4% (versus Dragon's Dogma)
Hollow Knight - 62.81% (versus Tales or Berseria)
Bastion - 52.25% (versus The Walking Dead)
Ori and the Blind Forest - 51.91% (versus Dragon Age: Inquisition)
Rocket League - 51.66% (versus Dragon Ball FighterZ)

ROUND 1 INDIE LOSERS (20):

Celeste - 49.55% (versus Rayman Legends)
Undertale - 46.71% (versus Octopath Traveler)
The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth - 43.47% (versus Nioh)
Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night - 40.9% (versus Borderlands 2)
Terraria - 32.31% (versus BioShock Infinite)
Disco Elysium - 31.94% (versus Kingdom Hearts 3)
Slay the Spire - 31.04% (versus Super Meat Boy)
Crypt of the NecroDancer - 28.47% (versus Final Fantasy XIV)
VVVVVV - 28.28% (versus Fallout 4)
Dead Cells - 27.49% (versus Metal Gear Solid V)
What Remains of Edith Finch - 25.35% (versus Final Fantasy XV)
The Witness - 22.61% (versus Yakuza 0)
FTL: Faster Than Light - 22.23% (versus Persona 4 Golden)
Baba is You - 20.73% (versus Grand Theft Auto V)
The Stanley Parable - 20.6% (versus Fallout: New Vegas)
Night in the Woods - 18.04% (versus Pokemon HeartGold/SoulSilver)
Hotline Miami - 17.01% (versus Dark Souls)
Subnautica - 16% (versus Skyrim)
INSIDE - 13.94% (versus DOOM)
Return of the Obra Dinn - 12.75% (versus Super Mario Galaxy 2)

At the end of Round 1, I'm predicting Cuphead's the strongest here...but ya know, Ori beat a GotY runner-up and Hollow Knight might beat a GotY winner, so nothing's set in stone yet.

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I'm sorry, I meant to say costume instead of character. Editing now.

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Ranticoot posted...

At the time of that indie 2017 poll, Hollow Knight had not yet gotten a Switch port which gave it a HUGE boost in popularity

Still good news for Cuphead though.

Yeah, I don't think Cuphead was on Switch right away either. Also, SSBU wasn't out yet which recently added Cuphead as a costume. In addition, Cuphead is the only indie game that I can buy themed socks for at Spencer's.

THE SPENCER'S FACTOR

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Also, I sure wish I would have seen how FFXV would do here before taking Uncharted 4 to win two rounds. Oof.

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O P E R A T I O N O U S T : Nominate SHEIK!
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