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TopicSo after his recent interview, its confirmed Joe Rogan is a Transphobe
cuttin_in_farm
07/22/20 4:30:03 PM
#131
hockeybub89 posted...
They don't. Transition. Quickly. Ever.

So whats the problem? Do yall want to speed things up?

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TopicSo after his recent interview, its confirmed Joe Rogan is a Transphobe
cuttin_in_farm
07/22/20 4:21:31 PM
#126
hockeybub89 posted...
"A black and white solution that helps with no drawbacks" literally does not exist for practically anything.

But...

hockeybub89 posted...
give youth amputees a prosthetic

Isnt this one?

gunplagirl posted...
You can't say you care about kids if you're thrown all trans kids under the bus to maybe protect a few kids from something THAT DOESN'T EVEN HAPPEN. Just. Fuck.

What? Transgender people dont sometimes regret transitioning at young ages? Isnt that a part of the podcasts topic? Are we talking about the same thing?

gunplagirl posted...
I have an idea. We put all kids on puberty blockers until the age of 17, to make sure they don't regret their puberty, and provide them all therapy. That would ensure ALL kids are safe. Do you have any objections to that?

Im pretty sure thats financially unsustainable. And Im not sure on the effects that has on child development. Id reckon that would have to do something to teens and kids. So I object.

That seems like a kneejerk reaction. We disagree at one core issue. You see children not being able to transition quickly as some terrible thing. I do not. So long as we disagree there, any solutions afterwards wont be likely to be agreeable.

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TopicSo after his recent interview, its confirmed Joe Rogan is a Transphobe
cuttin_in_farm
07/22/20 3:59:50 PM
#122
hockeybub89 posted...
Would you argue that children with other disabilities should suffer for 18 years before we attempt to help them? If we are going to acknowledge that it is a legitimate condition that people have in their childhood, then it makes no sense to say that all other conditions can be treated, but this one must wait until the victim is an adult and has full comprehension of medicine and the concept of pain.

If the only way to treat a disabled child was a body altering surgery that could cause major harm... then yes? Ignoring the bias way you asked, being a transgender youth is a bit of an unique case. It isnt a black and white, This solution helps them with no drawbacks like with disabilities.

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TopicSo after his recent interview, its confirmed Joe Rogan is a Transphobe
cuttin_in_farm
07/22/20 3:27:32 PM
#116
gunplagirl posted...
Honestly, I'd spit in your general direction if I had the chance.



Moving on...

gunplagirl posted...
In order to protect a few people you're throwing all those trans people under the bus.

Debatable. Blind people have to live with being blind. Deaf people have to live with being deaf. Etc. Being able to change ones sex via medical means is a massive boon from science and technology that we take for granted, imo. We should take it seriously.

gunplagirl posted...
Meanwhile, if you took the opposite interpretation, that it should be accessible and to combat societal transphobia?

I dont see the correlation. Societal transphobia wont be combatted much just because its easier for people to transition. Can you elaborate?

gunplagirl posted...
By forcing trans people to wait, you're saying that it's okay for trans people to have their bodies permanently deformed, and to likely have one or mental disorders, AND to be socially shunned for not being able to pass.

Trans children should have to do more, yea. Any negative effects from that is unfortunate, but thats the hand you were dealt. Like minorities or those with disabilities. Transgender people have the luxury of fixing their dilemma that causes hardship. Lord forbid you have to wait a little.

gunplagirl posted...
What you're doing is penalizing a vulnerable minority and setting them up for an even harder life,

Oh no. Your fixable problem has to be taken seriously and just filtered a bit better for kids. How evil

gunplagirl posted...
Is that it, you can't stand the idea of cis people getting hurt if it's as a result of them not knowing themselves as well as trans people do?

It would behoove me to agree to this. I dont really care what you are. But transitioning is not taken seriously enough for some people. And once its done, the social and physical changes in ones life can be irreversible. So... I would prefer to prevent that. Moreso than some kids having to stand in line longer. Yes.

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TopicSo after his recent interview, its confirmed Joe Rogan is a Transphobe
cuttin_in_farm
07/22/20 3:07:35 PM
#111
hockeybub89 posted...
Children are not just choosing though! Parents and, more importantly, medical experts are allowing children to transition at the recommended pace with a lot more education on the subject than you.

Transgender folk being openly accepted in medical fields is still a new thing. Its not like people didnt only just recently accept terms like gender dysphoria.

Its odd to so blindly accept the word of parents too. The same group that gets angry at teachers for giving their kid a D.

There are kids who regret it after. I would prefer to make things more difficult for kids to transition than have the issue of kids having issues after changes to their bodies.

Where is your problem with my stance? Stop appealing to higher authority and give me your opinion.

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TopicWhat was the point of Goten in DBZ?
cuttin_in_farm
07/22/20 2:57:19 PM
#14
Hercule also ended his arc perfectly in Buu saga, now that I mention it.

Buu saga actually had a great ending. With Spirit Bomb actually defeating the enemy. It just started weird and it should have had Gohan do something.

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TopicWhat was the point of Goten in DBZ?
cuttin_in_farm
07/22/20 2:55:23 PM
#13
RustyFerret posted...
Personally, I think they did that when Vegeta distracted Cell for Gohan.

That wasnt even for Goku.

Buu Saga Vegeta definitely had the best arc. Dude lets himself go back evil to try and be better, realizes that hes still not strong enough despite finally trying to copy Goku. Has a heroic sacrifice. Fails again. And finally comes to terms that Goku is stronger after he plays tank vs Kid Buu.

Vegeta was actually at his worst in Cell Saga. Randomly caring when Trunks was killed.

I thought it was generally agreed Buu Saga atleast brought peak Vegeta. Most of his most badass one liners and moments came from Buu saga.

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TopicHow do you feel about the usage of the N-word?
cuttin_in_farm
07/22/20 2:44:42 PM
#58
I dont use it (typically), but dont really care if other black people use it. Theres multiple ways it can be used by black people. Just dont pull out the -er. Its always bad.

Other races using it? Most of the time they are using it to fit in or be funny. I dont care youre reciting a song, but in general use, no. Yall have no real reason to use it.

Thats my take. I do wish it would just go away. But I digress.

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TopicIs being transgendered a psychological or physical disorder
cuttin_in_farm
07/22/20 1:34:37 PM
#47
A man is born in the wrong body. They should be a woman. Thats physical. Whether people want to admit it or not, its also a problem.

Because obviously, it gives stress to the person affected.

Trying to tip toe around it does no good. Lets toughen up a bit.

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TopicIs being transgendered a psychological or physical disorder
cuttin_in_farm
07/22/20 1:19:09 PM
#40
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Ok, so if a transgender person was born a man and they felt they were a woman they are a trans-woman, correct?

Correct.

IfGodCouldDie posted...
If they were just born a woman would they still be transgender and feel like they should be a man or would they just be comfortable as a cisgender woman?

They would be cisgendered if the were biologically a woman and had the same belief. Youre overcomplicating it.

A gay woman likes woman. If she was born a man, shes now just a straight dude. You dont have to try to over correct the terms.


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TopicIs being transgendered a psychological or physical disorder
cuttin_in_farm
07/22/20 1:12:43 PM
#35
Pus_N_Pecans posted...
It's like someone who's missing a limb; there's nothing WRONG with them, they just look a bit different.

This is a really bad example. lol. Thats literally some being wrong when you use the word missing.

You should just go with sexuality or race.

Being transgender isnt the condition. Its the gender dysphoria thing. They just often times correlate. Gender dysphoria is generally agreed to be a physical disorder nowadays I believe.

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TopicSo after his recent interview, its confirmed Joe Rogan is a Transphobe
cuttin_in_farm
07/22/20 12:01:58 PM
#82
cuttin_in_farm posted...
Trans discussion is annoying because everyone is immediately defensive, always dismissive if the point discussed isnt 100% pro-trans no matter the context, and devolves into straw manning.


Pay attention to what side is hurling insults, assumptions, and out claiming certain people dont have the authority to talk about the subject in this topic.

Everytime.

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TopicSo after his recent interview, its confirmed Joe Rogan is a Transphobe
cuttin_in_farm
07/22/20 11:55:15 AM
#76
hockeybub89 posted...
So are you this opposed to children seeing psychiatrists for other reasons? Or going through a long medical process that might culminate in surgery? Are children making random decisions alone and being humored in ALL situations, or just this one? Should be more accepting if people aren't "100% black/white in their opinions" and suggest that maybe there is something wrong with their biology?

Why are we still pretending transition is a 4 year old or their parents telling someone the kid held a doll, and then a penis being cut off?

Everyone wants to make gender issues these weird situations in no way comparable to other medical problems or other bigotries, yet no one can rationalize it beyond "But I disagree with this one".

I disagree with letting all children choose to make any surgical changes that are permanent without sufficient prepping.

I dont work in extremes. A portion of transgender children turn out okay. Thats fine.

But to my understanding, theres still a lot that have issues of remorse after transitioning. Just like a kid getting plastic surgery (I know transgender surgery isnt cosmetic, chill the fuck out), or in my example tattoos. Kids can go years thinking something that will change once theyre older.

In an attempt to be as permitting as possible, were creating a new problem for youths. Just on the post-transition end instead of pre-transition.

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TopicSo after his recent interview, its confirmed Joe Rogan is a Transphobe
cuttin_in_farm
07/22/20 11:19:58 AM
#44
hockeybub89 posted...
Replace trans with a race and suddenly you're making an extremely questionable argument. Weird how socially accepted certain bigotries are. "But the world is so accepting! There is no systemic anything!"

No, hes right. Trans discussion is annoying because everyone is immediately defensive, always dismissive if the point discussed isnt 100% pro-trans no matter the context, and devolves into straw manning.

A kid cant even get a tattoo that they dont regret a year later. Surely kids transitioning isnt so black and white as people think.

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TopicIs being transgendered a psychological or physical disorder
cuttin_in_farm
07/22/20 2:28:09 AM
#17
Be careful TC. Instead being helpful, people will accuse you of concern trolling and scoff that you didnt Google common knowledge.

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TopicAre you still social distancing and staying home?
cuttin_in_farm
07/21/20 11:10:06 PM
#16
Ive been out to eat and to malls.

Im still wearing mask and distancing. But that doesnt mean you shut yourself in.

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TopicCan Bra go Super Saiyan?
cuttin_in_farm
07/21/20 4:32:57 PM
#14
ThePrinceFish posted...
What really pisses me off is that present Trunks should at least start to resemble Future Trunks, but he and Goten never actually age.

Oh lord, this.

Isnt Future Trunks when hes with Future Gohan the same age as kid Trunks in Super?

Atleast GT aged the brats.

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TopicHow many jobs have you worked in your life?
cuttin_in_farm
07/21/20 4:29:35 PM
#6
TC, you should have grouped the options up like 1-3, 2-6 etc.

Not everyone here is 15.

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TopicUbisoft leadership: "Women don't sell"
cuttin_in_farm
07/21/20 4:01:56 PM
#74
darkbuster posted...
Regardless of what you want to call it, the point is that it's easier to relate with a character that is more like oneself, & sharing traits such as race & gender makes that easier.

Again, I disagree with this notion. For the obvious reason that sharing a gender or race does not equal similar experiences. At all.

Youre referring to representation which has very little to do with how you personally relate to a character.

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TopicZelda Williams donating $69.69 to several homeless shelters for Robin's birthday
cuttin_in_farm
07/21/20 3:41:51 PM
#15
Truly the great uniter!

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TopicUbisoft leadership: "Women don't sell"
cuttin_in_farm
07/21/20 3:20:48 PM
#61
darkbuster posted...
truth is that more often than not, most people find it easier to relate with a character that is the same race, gender, etc. as themselves, otherwise the issue from lack of female leads would mostly not exist.

This is something else I disagree with. Its just another point people bring up without thinking. Anyone can relate to a character with abandonment. Anyone can relate to a character with social issues. Etc etc.

What youre trying to highlight is representation which is different than who you can relate to. Lack of representation causes subconscious influences when people dont see themselves in media. See: homosexuality and how every couple is heterosexual.

If a little girl is new to her school and is having trouble fitting in because her home life is dysfunctional and she has low self-esteemed, Im not suddenly going to find it hard to relate to her just because shes a girl.

The issue is that female characters often times just arent given compelling characters. Or are given cliche story arcs like woman in predominantly male field.

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TopicScenario: You wake up tomorrow to discover it's 1954 and you're a black guy
cuttin_in_farm
07/21/20 1:41:26 PM
#7
UnfairRepresent posted...
You see your reflection in the mirror and despite being the same age and roughly the same body size, you look like a completely different person.


So... Im white...?

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TopicDo you use love to girls to get her to fuck you
cuttin_in_farm
07/21/20 1:34:53 PM
#4
Sunhawk posted...
That topic adds nothing to CE.


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TopicUbisoft leadership: "Women don't sell"
cuttin_in_farm
07/21/20 1:29:17 PM
#40
eston posted...
Tbqh I'm not sure how one would determine that as the reason for poor sales

I agree. So why do people keep bringing up this?

Even kids cartoons get this pushback. Nickelodeon didnt want Korra to be agirl because they felt a male protagonist would sell better.

But this logic is just... grandfathered in at this point. Wheres the proof of this?

Weebs loved Edelgard the most in Fire Emblem.

MMORPGs are filled of dudes playing girls.

GTAOnline and RDR2 online have dudes playing girls.

Dudes like Metroid and Tomb Raider.

People were excited for TLoU2.

Who still thinks this?

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TopicUbisoft leadership: "Women don't sell"
cuttin_in_farm
07/21/20 1:25:38 PM
#37
Legit question. Has there been a recent game that failed largely due to a female protag?

Isnt this an outdated belief? By old white dudes?


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TopicVal Venis: I dont understand how facts are offensive.
cuttin_in_farm
07/21/20 12:28:32 PM
#4
You have a small penis

That woman is hairy

Your child is a liar

etc etc etc.

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TopicIs a meadow of flowers the best place for a final battle?
cuttin_in_farm
07/21/20 9:36:18 AM
#1
I cant think of a time where a final battle took place in a meadow of flowers and it wasnt badass or emotional.

This has to be the best setting for a conclusion, yes?

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TopicNotice how nobody says 'I'm spiritual' anymore
cuttin_in_farm
07/20/20 11:38:29 PM
#16
coh posted...
Because it was a cringe way of saying "look at me, I'm special"

All it means is that they may not agree with church or believe in biblical stories. But still believe in a higher power.

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Topiccan someone help me understand how 'mechanical time' is specific to 'whiteness'?
cuttin_in_farm
07/20/20 4:18:52 PM
#34
Keep in mind, I do think theres a difference between scheduling a meeting at 1pm, and having consequences when youre five minutes late.

Too many places have very strict policies on tardies for no real reason. Especially when the actual event or meeting doesnt even immediately start or ends early.

I had a school professor that would give quizzes in the first ten-five minutes of class and if you show up late, you just fail the quiz.

Her quizzes were easy as shit, but I wasnt going to rush trough traffic if I was running late. Just let me take the quiz later. Who cares.

If someone shows up to a meeting late, who cares? They will fill themselves in. So long as its not habitual or by a large margin.

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Topiccan someone help me understand how 'mechanical time' is specific to 'whiteness'?
cuttin_in_farm
07/20/20 4:11:14 PM
#17
Giant_Aspirin posted...
so it's cultural and not racial?

Different races tend to have different cultures, yes.

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TopicCE, on a scale of 1 to 10, how appealing do you think I am to girls?
cuttin_in_farm
07/19/20 2:05:55 AM
#14
PIG_B0SS posted...
It's hard to be confident when you're born with **** genes

No its not.

Fat people are some of the most confident acting people.

How old are you?

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TopicCE, on a scale of 1 to 10, how appealing do you think I am to girls?
cuttin_in_farm
07/19/20 1:49:10 AM
#9
All of your pros and cons are materialistic things.

Your mannerisms and attitude are probably weak, passive, and self deprecating.

So not favorable.

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TopicFavorite of the remaining Avengers *Endgame spoilers*
cuttin_in_farm
07/19/20 1:33:50 AM
#12
LethalAffinity posted...
I really hate what they did with Hulk

This. Avengers 1 Hulk is still the best.

Engame Thor is ok, but Infinity War Thor is still the best easily.

Tbh, the remaining members are meh.

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TopicWhat is your favorite Disney animated movie of all time?
cuttin_in_farm
07/18/20 4:15:11 PM
#8
Easily Mulan.

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