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TopicMission: Impossible is the best movie franchise ever.
Zithers
11/22/20 3:43:55 PM
#15
MabusIncarnate posted...
Mission Impossible is not cinema

false

Machete posted...
How many have they made? Ive seen all of them up through rogue nation

fallout came out two years ago. it is possibly the greatest action movie ever made. saw it twice in theaters. second time i saw it i moved up to the front row after realizing it would be optimal viewing experience in this particular room where the screen was a bit further away than usual. chair reclined too. damn it owned. miss going to the movies.

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TopicMission: Impossible is the best movie franchise ever.
Zithers
11/22/20 3:28:22 PM
#9
going to be a sad day when he hangs it up.

i'd argue he and denzel are the only remaining movie stars. they can both lead a movie and have a discernible personality where you more or less know what to expect when you're heading into it.

but also are there really other actors willing to swing around the outside of the burj khlaifa.... or learning to fly a helicopter and then doing a dive bomb in it.. or do a halo jump... or tie themselves to the outside of an airplane...

i don't think he even takes a paycheck for the movies bc of the insurance policies. he just takes a cut of the box office. normal actors ain't gonna do that shit. dude is out of his mind (for this and also scientology related reasons).

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TopicMission: Impossible is the best movie franchise ever.
Zithers
11/22/20 3:22:35 PM
#6
Webbernet posted...
The movies are a bastardized version of the original show. The ones I saw were all right action movies, hell the original one had some iconic bits like the classic rappelling over the security lasers bit, but it was no Mission Impossible. Just call it Tom Cruise blows shit up or whatever. The MI show was about well planned jobs, not oops plans off lets shoot things mcgee.

never saw the show

first movie definitely leans more into spy thriller stuff

then it became tom cruise risking his life for our entertainment, and i respect and appreciate that, because it is an extremely good genre

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TopicMission: Impossible is the best movie franchise ever.
Zithers
11/22/20 3:27:55 AM
#1
cuz in the 5th movie it has alec baldwin deliver this monologue

Hunt is uniquely trained and highly motivated - a specialist without equal - immune to any countermeasures. There is no secret he cannot extract, no security he cannot breach, no person he cannot become. He has most likely anticipated this very conversation and is waiting to strike in whatever direction we move. Sir, Hunt is the living manifestation of destiny - and he has made you his mission.

hell yeah

there are other reasons too i guess but its mostly this

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TopicHappy birthday, Martin Scorsese!
Zithers
11/18/20 8:04:36 PM
#44
IShall_Run_Amok posted...
But making fun of Star Wars and nerds is so fun.

you can also complain or celebrate various 4K and Blu-ray releases in our physical media channel

talk about battletoads in the video game channel

Mercilessly mock WSW with us

etc

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TopicHappy birthday, Martin Scorsese!
Zithers
11/18/20 4:18:40 PM
#42
bobbaaay posted...
That's really discrediting all the people who work in the cast and crew of those movies. They've hired on legitimately talented actors. They hire legitimately talented computer graphics artists, costumers, etc. Even if the directors adhere to certain conventions -- that's not much different than pastiche, or following the conventions of a particular genre. It's also funny if the end goal of monetary gain delegitimatizes them, when didn't Scorsese himself kind of imply that these blockbuster superhero films hurt the monetary gain of other filmmakers by monopolizing theater screens? If monetary gain wasn't the end goal in his eyes, why can't he shoot films on a smaller budget like plenty of independent film makers do? Why can't he abuse the power he's gained from decades in the industry to curtail some of his expenses? How come production companies like A24 are still doing fine and still releasing films that he could give the moniker "cinema" by his definition?

I mean blockbusters hold a monopoly over the industry. The top ten movies of the year generally hoard around 1/3 of all ticket sales in a given year. any way you cut that is bad. Im also not saying people who work on the movies arent talented or work hard. But also that doesnt really matter if the end product is ultimately benign blahness.

scorsese also does make concessions with his films by working for scale and not taking a salary since he already has more money than god probably. In addition to pouring loads of money into his world cinema project and the film foundation.

plus I think theres a difference between I need to make money so Im going to make this versus I am going to make this because I desperately want to and no one else will get it right which is generally the difference in this sort of thing. And yeah you need to make lots of money in the BO to keep getting work in the industry generally otherwise studios will lose interest in you and the kinds of movies you make

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TopicHappy birthday, Martin Scorsese!
Zithers
11/18/20 2:08:47 PM
#39
to Be fair only like six out of the fifty people in there do it every week

i mean Ive only seen three I think

i think we provide better daily general discussion than nerds arguing about Star Wars for the 80th time on the theater board tho

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TopicHappy birthday, Martin Scorsese!
Zithers
11/18/20 1:31:53 PM
#36
Pretty bad comparison bc its clear all sorts of different styles of movies, budgets, time periods, genres, etc can be considered cinema

also unironically using the word weinery seems more weinery than going yeah corporate manufactures stuff that solely exists to print money isnt comparable to movies made with a unique vision

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TopicHappy birthday, Martin Scorsese!
Zithers
11/18/20 12:59:27 PM
#34
Action movies can be cinema tho

haywire, mission impossible, Indians Jones (Spielberg in general really), John wick, mad Max, etc

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TopicHappy birthday, Martin Scorsese!
Zithers
11/18/20 12:15:22 PM
#31
TopicHappy birthday, Martin Scorsese!
Zithers
11/18/20 12:00:40 PM
#30
amok do you want to join the discord yet

we're about to watch akira for movie of the week

wrapping up 3 women week today

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TopicHappy birthday, Martin Scorsese!
Zithers
11/18/20 11:51:53 AM
#28
james gunn's GOTG movies (well, movie, i only saw the first one) are extremely similar to the other MCU movies except they have a soundtrack full of oldies you hear over the PA when you're at the grocery store and slightly more quips. it's also possible that you have someone start off with a promising career making something fun and memorable before they take the paychecks and just forget about being an artiste. or vice versa.

the MCU does indeed have a house style. but they choose to be visually dull, are loaded with momentum killing expository scenes, follow the same plot formula, no interesting characterization, etc. they play it as safe as possible and cater to everyone - which really means they cater to no one. to me this prevents it from being cinema. not really related to the cinema vs not cinema argument but this is unforgivable given that they have monster budgets. there's no excuse for you to not make a great movie with those kind of resources. anyway people tell me thor 3 isn't like this. maybe i'll get around to that someday.

ripping off other filmmakers and cramming their influences together like tarantino does with kung fu, exploitation, spaghetti westerns, etc. doesn't make it any less cinematic.

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TopicHappy birthday, Martin Scorsese!
Zithers
11/18/20 11:04:59 AM
#23
bobbaaay posted...


Does it need a wide release? Does it need to be within a certain budget? Can it not have green screens or a large number of people working in production? Does it need a named director? Does it need to follow a certain, measurable number of film conventions? Does it need to be advertised and marketed?

the answer to all of these is no.

a vine or tiktok could be cinema. a youtube video. a $250m blockbuster or $50k microbudget movie. a tv show even.

its all about specificity of vision. if something is focus grouped to death (like most blockbusters) i would argue that they aren't that different than any other blockbuster. or if they're some indie with a bunch of handheld soft focus stuff and people mumbling it isn't cinema either bc there's hundreds of those. it just isn't original. nothing new is happening, no unique voice shining through, etc. and this is all easier to trace if a director has a large body of work and you can see where they visit the same style, themes, etc that makes them stand out.

and of course there can be bad cinema and good cinema. like zack snyder or something who has a voice but its just a bad one.

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TopicHappy birthday, Martin Scorsese!
Zithers
11/17/20 11:00:06 PM
#20
TopicHappy birthday, Martin Scorsese!
Zithers
11/17/20 10:28:22 PM
#18
Gamerguymass posted...
Steven Spielberg has said Netflix hurts the cinema expeirence, so if it hurts the cinema experience the movies made for Netflix can't possibly be cinema. And since Scorsese makes Netflix movies now that means he no longer makes cinema.

its true that netflix doesnt compare to the theatrical experience

however cinema is not defined by where you watch a movie and is entirely about the way it is made

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TopicHappy birthday, Martin Scorsese!
Zithers
11/17/20 7:29:15 PM
#11
Gamerguymass posted...
But its not cinema if its on Netflix so therefore its not worth watching.

weird take but go off

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TopicHappy birthday, Martin Scorsese!
Zithers
11/17/20 7:18:11 PM
#6
Prestoff posted...
Let's watch a movie from the MCU to celebrate!

the irishman, mean streets, and cape fear are all on netflix!

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TopicHappy birthday, Martin Scorsese!
Zithers
11/17/20 7:10:12 PM
#2
TopicHappy birthday, Martin Scorsese!
Zithers
11/17/20 12:23:53 AM
#1
We love you, King. Also, reminder that Marvel movies are not cinema.

Also free recommendation: A Personal Journey Through American Movies with Martin Scorsese. Great essay-esque documentary where Marty talks about films that he loved and that influenced him from the silent era up until he started making movies. It's like three and a half hours long. Aired as a miniseries on BBC back in the 90s I think. His breakdowns are sublime. No one loves movies more than this guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miHgdsXVcIQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po1cvUePmf4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN73pwUW9OQ

the youtube versions are sorta heavily edited due to rights issues i guess idc. still v informative and will give you many recs on cool movies to check out :)

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Topicembarking on my quest to find a band that sounds like my fav band
Zithers
11/15/20 12:59:57 AM
#19
Topicembarking on my quest to find a band that sounds like my fav band
Zithers
11/14/20 4:28:06 PM
#17
Topicembarking on my quest to find a band that sounds like my fav band
Zithers
11/14/20 4:21:42 PM
#15
ultimate reaver posted...
slough feg is basically wholesale worship of Manilla Road, but some people cant handle that vocalist

are there any albums or records specifically to look into

i've heard some of crystal logic (supposedly their best) i think and it dont sound like slough feg at all

also have read this about thin lizzy but again no idea where to look at in a huge discog

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Topicembarking on my quest to find a band that sounds like my fav band
Zithers
11/14/20 4:11:06 PM
#13
wytch hazel is decent but would be significantly better if their lyrics were about satan instead

god is some weak ass bullshit to sing about when youre in a metal band

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Topicembarking on my quest to find a band that sounds like my fav band
Zithers
11/14/20 4:00:13 PM
#11
also slough feg once opened for the sword i think and all their fans hated them iirc lmao

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Topicembarking on my quest to find a band that sounds like my fav band
Zithers
11/14/20 3:59:45 PM
#10
i like spirit adrift but slough feg is more specifically... rollicking fun metal. almost sort of folksy with a heavy emphasis on playing notes rather than chords. only band that sort of comes close is brocas helm who slough feg is partially worship of, i think.

spirit adrift does a lot of aping from thrash/arena metal type stuff. actually saw slough feg like a week before spirit adrift came through town but i was elsewhere by that time sigh oh well.

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Topicembarking on my quest to find a band that sounds like my fav band
Zithers
11/14/20 3:50:08 PM
#6
Mark_DeRosa posted...
Slough feg? Try skyclad

i cant deal with this fiddle shit. so corny.

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Topicembarking on my quest to find a band that sounds like my fav band
Zithers
11/14/20 3:21:32 PM
#4
ironsword is fine but gave up on them as a slough feg esque band.

then checked out twisted tower dire who appears to just be straight up power metal. not really my bag.

disappointing results so far

moving onto omen. this is fine. not like slough feg though.

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Topicembarking on my quest to find a band that sounds like my fav band
Zithers
11/14/20 3:12:36 PM
#2
Topicembarking on my quest to find a band that sounds like my fav band
Zithers
11/14/20 2:55:18 PM
#1
just booted up spotify on my computer for the first time in ages

time to find a heavy metal band that sounds like my favorite band, slough feg. bay area dad metal band.

spotify recommends some band called ironsword.

listening to a song called rogues in the house. cool riffs, nice bass thumping, vocals are a bit more gruff than expected. possibly worshiping manilla road tho i haven't listened to enough manilla road to say tbh.

anyone got any other cool trad metal recs

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TopicZithers
Zithers
11/12/20 10:25:24 PM
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Zithers
11/12/20 10:23:24 PM
#19
Drpooplol posted...
Zithers is a trash welcher.

i no longer post on NFLB

i am not a welcher

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TopicZithers
Zithers
11/12/20 10:15:05 PM
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Zithers
11/12/20 10:05:25 PM
#15
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Zithers
11/12/20 7:07:33 PM
#8
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Zithers
11/12/20 11:03:31 AM
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11/11/20 10:22:53 PM
#3
TopicWoman who lost grandma to COVID: Gods Plan, Not Trump's fault.
Zithers
11/01/20 10:30:51 PM
#57
VipaGTS posted...
Sup Zitherz. How you been?

the pull of the void becomes stronger with each passing moment

how about you

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TopicWoman who lost grandma to COVID: Gods Plan, Not Trump's fault.
Zithers
11/01/20 10:29:21 PM
#50
Topicon march 31st 2009 i was really bored and looking at CE
Zithers
11/01/20 10:29:03 PM
#23
Topicon march 31st 2009 i was really bored and looking at CE
Zithers
11/01/20 4:40:03 PM
#21
Damn_Underscore posted...
tc humblebragging about finding a female version of CE

havent posted there in like 7 or 8 years

think its about 50% dudes now too

what fun is that

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Topicon march 31st 2009 i was really bored and looking at CE
Zithers
11/01/20 3:28:27 PM
#19
Topicis there a genre/type of movie you can't enjoy/get into?
Zithers
11/01/20 1:00:31 PM
#40
g0ldie posted...


this isn't about quality, just element(s), genres, etc. that make you check out.

this also does not apply to me

can't imagine being this smooth brained

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Topicis there a genre/type of movie you can't enjoy/get into?
Zithers
10/31/20 2:18:55 PM
#30
TopicI'm a GameFAQs Moderator, AMA
Zithers
10/31/20 1:08:24 AM
#8
why does so much rampant racism, homophobia, misogyny, transphobia, etc go unpunished on this website lol

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Topicon march 31st 2009 i was really bored and looking at CE
Zithers
10/31/20 1:01:11 AM
#16
TRC posted...
I approve of TCs topic

praise man who made that topic 11 years ago

wholesome content is a balm these days

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TopicIts pretty funny that this board is an echo chamber for Biden
Zithers
10/30/20 11:55:46 PM
#15
Topicon march 31st 2009 i was really bored and looking at CE
Zithers
10/30/20 11:49:12 PM
#14
coh posted...
Don't only sexual predators use Omegle

probably

i think it took a couple weeks/months for that to happen when it first launched tho

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Topicon march 31st 2009 i was really bored and looking at CE
Zithers
10/30/20 11:33:51 PM
#10
Topicon march 31st 2009 i was really bored and looking at CE
Zithers
10/30/20 11:20:08 PM
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