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| Topic | on march 31st 2009 i was really bored and looking at CE |
| Zithers 10/30/20 11:10:53 PM #7 | hi devin love u too hope cam is working out well (i have not watched a single NFL game this year lol) --- |
| Topic | on march 31st 2009 i was really bored and looking at CE |
| Zithers 10/30/20 10:52:24 PM #2 | damn not even one post being happy about something good being created by CE sigh --- |
| Topic | on march 31st 2009 i was really bored and looking at CE |
| Zithers 10/30/20 10:22:51 PM #1 | never really posted on here much, mostly stuck to the movie or NFL or metal board but i guess not a whole lot was going on so i checked CE and one of the top threads was like "wow this cool new website called omegle just launched" so i clicked on it to see what that was about maybe 400 people were online and i talked to 3 who were girls from the same msg board and they all liked me and sent me a link to it. there were only like 200 users on the board and <20 were dudes. so i started posting there and got along with most of them and eventually invited my bro. he started talking to a girl on there who he lived near. they've been living together for 5 years now and he proposed today for her bday and she said yes. so just wanna give a shoutout to whoever made that omegle thread. no i do not know why i remember the specific date. --- |
| Topic | disney sucks big butt. pivoting to focusing on streaming content. |
| Zithers 10/13/20 12:09:42 AM #1 | https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/walt-disney-structural-reorganization-media-entertainment-business-1234801683/ The Walt Disney Company announced a broad structural reorganization of its media and entertainment businesses Monday, in a move to ramp up and streamline its direct-to-consumer strategy. That involves the creation of the new Media and Entertainment Distribution group, which will oversee all content monetization and streaming operations. Kareem Daniel, most recently president of consumer products, games and publishing at Disney, will lead the unit. Daniel, who has been at Disney for 14 years, has a history of leadership roles across the company. Outside of consumer products, games and publishing, he has also spent time in studio distribution and Walt Disney Imagineering prior to his most recent role, Daniel served as president of Walt Disney Imagineering operations, production creation, publishing and games. There, he oversaw the transformation of IP into parks and resorts properties such as Star Wars: Galaxys Edge at Disneyland and Walt Disney World, as well as Toy Story Land at Diseny World and Shanghai Disneyland. "Managing content creation distinct from distribution will allow us to be more effective and nimble in making the content consumers want most, delivered in the way they prefer to consume it. Our creative teams will concentrate on what they do bestmaking world-class, franchise-based content." love how a guy who ran amusement parks is now in charge of movies and shows. sorry, not movies and shows. "content." --- |
| Topic | One year ago, Martin Scorsese declared Marvel movies as not cinema |
| Zithers 10/11/20 3:39:00 PM #206 | Webbernet posted... Ive just realized he means something different than just the medium by cinema. An action film isnt an art house film, I cant really deny that. I cant even get mad if someone feels there are too many popcorn flicks out there; they do tend to dominate the box office. doesnt have anything to do with genre --- |
| Topic | One year ago, Martin Scorsese declared Marvel movies as not cinema |
| Zithers 10/11/20 3:19:26 PM #203 | amok join the discord challenge we finally got kastrada yesterday --- |
| Topic | One year ago, Martin Scorsese declared Marvel movies as not cinema |
| Zithers 10/11/20 2:48:52 PM #200 | |
| Topic | One year ago, Martin Scorsese declared Marvel movies as not cinema |
| Zithers 10/09/20 7:27:46 PM #196 | |
| Topic | One year ago, Martin Scorsese declared Marvel movies as not cinema |
| Zithers 10/09/20 3:45:22 PM #193 | tommybel89 posted... Yeah back then, you can have a 3+ hour epic becoming box office smash hits. I guess you still can. Titanic did it. But even since 1997, it's harder. yeah my fav period for movies is classic hollywood era 1930s-50s. moody b&w or retina-searing colors, more interpersonal relationship stuff that's character based and isn't heavily reliant on tons of plotting/exposition. everyone looks glamorous and there's a romantic/idealized look at ways of life. that's way better escapism to me than "powerful group of people have to save the world/galaxy again". i think people also severely underestimate craftsmanship of older movies because to them some cgi landscape and showy long takes are impressive cinematography (ew). they think they're super stagey and have bad camera work for some reason (maybe they saw some bad examples of old movies, i dunno). plus, if you like scorsese or tarantino or paul thomas anderson or the coen bros or whoever... who do you think they're ripping off? ppl gotta give old movies a shot sometime!! thankful for youtube tv since it has turner classic movies and unlimited dvr capabilities. --- |
| Topic | One year ago, Martin Scorsese declared Marvel movies as not cinema |
| Zithers 10/09/20 3:25:55 PM #190 | tommybel89 posted... That's also because distributors were not touching a 3+ hour drama movie with a 10 foot pole. Today's movie theatre market hardly allows for it. The budget was also over 100 million bucks. That's insane for a drama movie. You can't compare Marvel / DC (movies striving for all demographics) to Scorsese movies (usually gangster / drama movies). remember when the godfather and its sequel were both top five in box office those were the days now the entire top ten is movies for kids and nerds --- |
| Topic | One year ago, Martin Scorsese declared Marvel movies as not cinema |
| Zithers 10/09/20 3:18:53 PM #187 | DeadSite posted... It is absolutely hilarious that Scorsese would bash Marvel movies as not cinema when he said this while literally promoting his "dream film" that he sold to literally one of the largest contributors of the death of cinema: Netflix. Absolute hypocrite and now he's making movies for apple tv :pensive: --- |
| Topic | One year ago, Martin Scorsese declared Marvel movies as not cinema |
| Zithers 10/09/20 2:55:59 PM #185 | tommybel89 posted... Post-credit scenes f***ing suck. I'm going there. yeah i don't think there's any artistic merit here. they're commercials for the next movie. fans just forget about them instantly and move on to speculating about the next thing. plus making a lot of money is bound to happen when you're marketing budget is higher than most movie's production budgets. disney is basically more powerful than god right now. who cares if it makes a lot of money. is it good? i've bought tickets to DOZENS of movies and as i sat there in the theater, i realized they were bad. making money isn't synonymous with being good. furthermore, RDJ barely even has a career outside of the MCU. i think he's done some middlebrow oscar bait since becoming iron man and that's it. the soloist, the judge, uh.... doctor doolittle... how is any of this good for cinema, exactly? very confused by that dude's post. --- |
| Topic | One year ago, Martin Scorsese declared Marvel movies as not cinema |
| Zithers 10/09/20 2:32:17 PM #183 | SwayM posted... Honestly this is literally a case of old man angry at thing he doesnt understand definitely the worst post of the topic, excellent work --- |
| Topic | I've watched 394 feature length movies this year, I think I need a break |
| Zithers 10/08/20 11:22:37 PM #2 | |
| Topic | One year ago, Martin Scorsese declared Marvel movies as not cinema |
| Zithers 10/08/20 9:35:02 PM #180 | sylverlolol posted... I'd be bitter too if something as widely popular as the MCU made more than double the box office gross of my entire career in film. it's insane that people think scorsese cares about money. says more about them than it does him. this guy worked for scale on silence and i'm p sure he worked for scale on the irishman too. he's loaded. he doesn't care about money. he cares about cinema. --- |
| Topic | One year ago, Martin Scorsese declared Marvel movies as not cinema |
| Zithers 10/08/20 2:34:31 AM #174 | |
| Topic | One year ago, Martin Scorsese declared Marvel movies as not cinema |
| Zithers 10/06/20 10:57:09 PM #173 | g0ldie posted... I wasn't arguing for the MCU being cinema, or not, just saying that if cinema is supposed to be GOAT for certain qualities but something else has those same qualities, but to a higher degree, then doesn't it make that something GOAT instead ideally the GOAT is actually good --- |
| Topic | One year ago, Martin Scorsese declared Marvel movies as not cinema |
| Zithers 10/06/20 10:38:30 PM #169 | g0ldie posted...
there's no doubt marvel is a force to be reckoned with. given that its capitalistic warmongering copaganda it makes sense that its so popular in the world. doesn't mean it's cinema tho. --- |
| Topic | One year ago, Martin Scorsese declared Marvel movies as not cinema |
| Zithers 10/06/20 10:20:25 PM #167 | g0ldie posted... if an MCU movie makes more money than a Scorsese film, for example, and due to its bigger audience, is able to spread more propaganda, have more imitators, etc., is it the better product (cinema, or nah)? i said cinema is the GOAT so i'm not sure i'm seeing the relevance of the MCU here... ? --- |
| Topic | One year ago, Martin Scorsese declared Marvel movies as not cinema |
| Zithers 10/06/20 10:18:31 PM #166 | MedeaLysistrata posted... Fassbinder is alright i dunno just get a free 2 week trial on criterion channel and watch whatever, they have lots of fassbinder and godard and adjacent filmmakers (i have never seen fassbinder lol and can't stand godard) i have seen all that heaven allows, though, which is the source material for ali. great movie. --- |
| Topic | One year ago, Martin Scorsese declared Marvel movies as not cinema |
| Zithers 10/06/20 10:10:34 PM #162 | g0ldie posted... how has cinema been established as "the GOAT", IYO? generates a lot of money, best propaganda type, everyone tries to rip it off, its my opinion (aka fact), etc. --- |
| Topic | One year ago, Martin Scorsese declared Marvel movies as not cinema |
| Zithers 10/06/20 10:06:55 PM #160 | i would have thought some edgy philosophy bro would have an appreciation for the seventh art --- |
| Topic | One year ago, Martin Scorsese declared Marvel movies as not cinema |
| Zithers 10/06/20 10:03:48 PM #156 | MedeaLysistrata posted... Pick up a book and find out! pretty cop out answer cinema is the GOAT until proven otherwise --- |
| Topic | One year ago, Martin Scorsese declared Marvel movies as not cinema |
| Zithers 10/06/20 9:55:04 PM #154 | amok do you want to join the discord yet --- |
| Topic | One year ago, Martin Scorsese declared Marvel movies as not cinema |
| Zithers 10/06/20 9:54:54 PM #153 | MedeaLysistrata posted... TC needs to read a book and realize film is not the height of culture what are the heights of culture --- |
| Topic | One year ago, Martin Scorsese declared Marvel movies as not cinema |
| Zithers 10/06/20 9:15:18 PM #150 | Venger2112 posted... Nah man theres just a definitive line between campy popcorn flicks and "quality cinema" do people think marvel movies are campy.... ? --- |
| Topic | One year ago, Martin Scorsese declared Marvel movies as not cinema |
| Zithers 10/06/20 9:12:33 PM #149 | found some good examples of cinema just now. that dude skateboarding to fleetwood mac in that tiktok for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7LpEMqMtCw this youtube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrxPuk0JefA also twin peaks: the return which is actually a tv show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IKUeIEdRMY all cinema. but the winter solder is not cinema. --- |
| Topic | One year ago, Martin Scorsese declared Marvel movies as not cinema |
| Zithers 10/06/20 1:05:53 AM #85 | coh posted... You literally think The Last Jedi is cinema yeah its probably the best star wars movie. rian johnson is cool. too bad theyre shafting him and he's more than likely not getting that trilogy. --- |
| Topic | One year ago, Martin Scorsese declared Marvel movies as not cinema |
| Zithers 10/06/20 12:39:19 AM #82 | https://news.brandawareness.in/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/mission-impossible-7-1200.jpg https://twitter.com/LaFamiliaFilm/status/1312846995963490305 the new mission impossible movies are going to fucking rip btw --- |
| Topic | One year ago, Martin Scorsese declared Marvel movies as not cinema |
| Zithers 10/06/20 12:36:10 AM #81 | wish more people preferred cinema to marvel movies sigh --- |
| Topic | One year ago, Martin Scorsese declared Marvel movies as not cinema |
| Zithers 10/05/20 11:25:50 PM #64 | cuttin_in_farm posted... Lmao why? i haven't seen it but its my understanding that its actually treated like a comic book movie and tries to have fun instead of being po faced and full of expositional gobbledygook --- |
| Topic | One year ago, Martin Scorsese declared Marvel movies as not cinema |
| Zithers 10/05/20 11:10:34 PM #61 | IfGodCouldDie posted... This is actually a definition of "cinema" that I could get behind. Like once the MCU got to a point certain movies were going to get made regardless. But I think it also can be an argument for some of the Marvel movies being "cinema." feel like ragnarok is the only one i see people mounting defenses for, really cinema is certainly possible in blockbusters but its just seen more and more infrequently as everything is focus tested to death and made as palatable as possible to everyone. which is not conducive to cinema being produced imo! the last jedi, fury road, and the mission impossible series are recent examples of blockbuster cinema. --- |
| Topic | One year ago, Martin Scorsese declared Marvel movies as not cinema |
| Zithers 10/05/20 10:01:34 PM #52 | AlisLandale posted... Id love to see these people salty over Scorsese try to explain why they feel Marvel flicks would be considered cinema as per his understanding of it, rather than complaining about gatekeeping and clinging on to semantics <_< it isn't enough to be the most expensive, most marketed, most watched movies they also have to be the most acclaimed by filmmakers and cinephiles to gain a sense of legitimacy very weird imo! --- |
| Topic | One year ago, Martin Scorsese declared Marvel movies as not cinema |
| Zithers 10/05/20 9:07:50 PM #45 | plot isnt important guys cmon --- |
| Topic | One year ago, Martin Scorsese declared Marvel movies as not cinema |
| Zithers 10/05/20 8:59:59 PM #43 | saw i heard you paint houses in theaters masterpiece --- |
| Topic | One year ago, Martin Scorsese declared Marvel movies as not cinema |
| Zithers 10/05/20 8:35:28 PM #36 | IfGodCouldDie posted... Can you define cinema in your own words? i like steven soderbergh's definition from 2013. not my own words, w/e, he puts it p well. First of all, is there a difference between cinema and movies? Yeah. The simplest way that I can describe it is that a movie is something you see, and cinema is something thats made. It has nothing to do with the captured medium, it doesnt have anything to do with where the screen is, if its in your bedroom, your iPad, it doesnt even really have to be a movie. It could be a commercial, it could be something on YouTube. Cinema is a specificity of vision. Its an approach in which everything matters. Its the polar opposite of generic or arbitrary and the result is as unique as a signature or a fingerprint. It isnt made by a committee, and it isnt made by a company, and it isnt made by the audience. It means that if this filmmaker didnt do it, it either wouldnt exist at all, or it wouldnt exist in anything like this form. this differs from scorsese's version actually... For me, for the filmmakers I came to love and respect, for my friends who started making movies around the same time that I did, cinema was about revelation aesthetic, emotional and spiritual revelation. It was about characters the complexity of people and their contradictory and sometimes paradoxical natures, the way they can hurt one another and love one another and suddenly come face to face with themselves. It was about confronting the unexpected on the screen and in the life it dramatized and interpreted, and enlarging the sense of what was possible in the art form. --- |
| Topic | One year ago, Martin Scorsese declared Marvel movies as not cinema |
| Zithers 10/05/20 8:09:23 PM #29 | rexcrk posted... Obvious bait topic. you can like marvel movies. no one's saying you can't. that would be ridiculous. they just aren't cinema. --- |
| Topic | One year ago, Martin Scorsese declared Marvel movies as not cinema |
| Zithers 10/05/20 7:57:28 PM #19 | Zikten posted... so if it's not cinema, what is it? movies not all movies are cinema not all cinema is movies only cinema is cinema --- |
| Topic | One year ago, Martin Scorsese declared Marvel movies as not cinema |
| Zithers 10/05/20 7:43:07 PM #1 | |
| Topic | modern musicals vs old musicals |
| Zithers 09/29/20 12:58:19 AM #35 | |
| Topic | modern musicals vs old musicals |
| Zithers 09/28/20 7:27:25 PM #34 | god kelly in his singin in the rain followup. tap dancing in fuckin roller skates. what a badass. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=th1PfgT09-g --- |
| Topic | modern musicals vs old musicals |
| Zithers 09/27/20 2:44:18 PM #32 | |
| Topic | modern musicals vs old musicals |
| Zithers 09/27/20 12:23:19 AM #31 | the polka dot polka is the GOAT --- |
| Topic | modern musicals vs old musicals |
| Zithers 09/26/20 10:46:20 PM #26 | i dont even think that opening number is good --- |
| Topic | modern musicals vs old musicals |
| Zithers 09/26/20 5:23:42 PM #18 | g0ldie posted... if film culture is "going downhill", I don't think it's for the reason I'm inferring from your post; but more because there's an "oversaturation" of access to movies that might make people more apathetic towards the medium, regardless of whether movies might good or not. yeah people think the mega blockbusters and whatever netflix is dumping onto its platform are the best that movies have to offer cuz they have the largest marketing budgets and/or its convenient. lots of conflation between convenience and quality. pretty dumb imo. but also people do have extremely bad taste in movies since their brains are being rewired by the above. its like the thing with the dogs drooling at the ring of a bell. whats that called again. googled it. pavlov. people see ugly cgi and green screen and rapid cutting and lots of exposition dumps where every plot detail is explained. then they go watch an old movie or indie movie or foreign movie and none of this happens and theyre like "wow this is boring i dont get it." when in reality their brain has been trained to hate that which is different (original). sad! --- |
| Topic | modern musicals vs old musicals |
| Zithers 09/26/20 5:13:46 PM #16 | g0ldie posted... I feel like, the examples that you posted in favor of older musicals aren't better than La La Land, at all yeah there's a reason why film culture is going downhill --- |
| Topic | modern musicals vs old musicals |
| Zithers 09/26/20 5:03:25 PM #14 | la la land will only become a classic because it is a full blown masterpiece compared to other modern musicals (which are extremely bad). and also because the vast majority of people refuse to watch old stuff and will miss out on the goods. --- |
| Topic | modern musicals vs old musicals |
| Zithers 09/26/20 5:01:34 PM #13 | |
| Topic | modern musicals vs old musicals |
| Zithers 09/26/20 4:38:59 PM #10 | nah but it was directed by the guy who partially directed bohemian rhapsody so i can only imagine that its completely putrid dog shit --- |
| Topic | modern musicals vs old musicals |
| Zithers 09/26/20 4:34:42 PM #8 | YookaLaylee posted... The problem with modern musical movies is that they all feel way too streamlined and sanitized. Everyones voices are auto tuned so it doesnt even feel like theyre actually singing. It would be better if they used live audio of the actors singing on set instead of having them record all the songs in a studio couldnt care less about it being live or not filmmakers need to learn how to do good choreography and not do a ton of cuts and just let us watch the beautiful movie stars do their thing --- |
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