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ExThaNemesis posted...

Brees isn't 10x better than whoever's playing pickup game at your local park right now. That's one of the worst QB performances I've ever seen.

Bad game or not he is still a top 5 QB in the league right now.

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249USDollars posted...

What the fuck is Brees gonna do at this point? How are you gonna comeback with a QB who can't throw? This isn't even my hate for Brees speaking right now.

Brees is 10x better than Winston. Not even close.

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Not sure if you guys are serious with the Winston stuff.

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ExThaNemesis posted...

ur season is pretty much over right now anyway, what harm could Winston possibly do?

God I am so glad the Rams ruined the Saints best chance at a SB with that awful PI call. Horrid wretched franchise. So happy to watch them disappear into irrelevance with Pittsburgh.

They already won a superbowl

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I see my TB over Buffalo championship till looking solid

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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Actually you do assume she is innocent until it is proven.

(I am being cheeky here)

Yeah, you know what is meant lol.

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DoomTheGyarados posted...

jesus fuck LOTM

He isn't wrong. She will have her day in court to prove her innocence. You shouldn't just blindly assume she is innocent because she has said she is.

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masterplum posted...

I think pardons are like everything, good when its a good president and bad when its a bad president.

I for the most part like it, just dont elect dumbasses

Terrible regardless

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Maniac64 posted...

I'll be honest I really hadn't tried anything but ketchup and bbq sauce until like 5-6 years ago. Then I discovered Honey French and realized I should start branching out.

I dislike spicy anything...

You won't dislike it still. Trust me.

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It's pretty impossible to dislike spicy brown mustard.

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https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/01/conspiracy-theories-will-doom-republican-party/617707/

Pretty good read from Sasse.


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https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/beeler-arrest-inauguration-checkpoint/2021/01/16/8597db24-5834-11eb-a817-e5e7f8a406d6_story.html

I retract my previous statement but still give kudos to the police.

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Right

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Listen there might be a bad mustard or two in the bunch, but most mustards are good and we should respect them. We afford mustard a little more leeway based on the job it has to do with complimenting tastes. There is no reason we should be trying to get rid of mustards anytime a mustard might fail to do its job properly. Most the time mustard is doing its job as best as it can but the main culprit is the item it is complimenting actually that caused the issue. Mustard is almost always reasonable and justified.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

These are the same dudes that have been pushing an anti-lockdown narrative since the very beginning, including publishing an extremely flawed study on seroprevelance early in the pandemic where they claimed (because of their bad study design along with basic math/statistics errors) that some enormous fraction of the population already had covid and that the death rate was correspondingly super low

I would take anything they claim to have found with a mountain of salt

(Bhattacharya and Ioannidis, at least. Can't recall if the first two authors were also on that other paper).

Idk. Just see a lot of people linking to this study lately so figured I would post it.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

Probably depends on whether or not the Senate parliamentarian decides it's something that can be done through reconciliation or not

It's not spending. No idea how it could.

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TheRock1525 posted...

Honey mustard is the only good mustard.

Most are good.

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PerfectChaosZ posted...

I wonder if he'll have to distance himself to save his bacon or if he'll pardon them while continuing to call them antifa and no one will be able to do much about it

It kind of bolsters the case against him if he pardons them.

Especially since their defense is the president told them to do it.

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charmander6000 posted...

Well if you weren't already going to do it voluntarily, you aren't going to change your behavior in what is mostly a toothless lockdown. Like they may have closed restaurants, but you are still going to see your buddies elsewhere. All it likely does is convince a small group of people to begrudingly follow some steps.

Of course this minimal effect can be a difference maker. A 7% or 13% decrease can be quite significant in the right circumstances.

I think it's saying you can achieve that 7% to 13% decrease through other ways already so the lockdowns don't really have any significant effect.

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https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/16/us-capitol-rioters-donald-trump-pardons

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In case anyone doesn't wanna read the study, it basically says lockdowns either don't work or relatively have very minimal effect on spread in comparison to just voluntary methods of limiting transmission.

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https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/15/ivanka-trump-political-future-459758

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Suprak the Stud posted...

If Biden nominates any democratic senator from a state with a republican governor, he would be the dumbest person in the history of ever. So, yeah, any hopes of Sanders in the cabinet are about zero now (although he's fine in his current position tbqh!)

He already said he talked to Sanders and it wasn't happening for that reason and Sanders agreed.

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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

https://twitter.com/repadamschiff/status/1349881568429543425?s=21

Adam Schiff coming out for $2000 checks, lets goooo

He means $1400. They were talking about how he is the most profile person to say it wrong.

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Wanglicious posted...

and sure enough, i look at the tweet, scroll down, and eventually see the source.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/16/us/politics/biden-administration-executive-action-legislation.html

relevant parts:
"...issuing a mask mandate for federal property and interstate travel..."

"As with many of Mr. Trumps own executive actions, some of them may sound more meaningful than they really are. By imposing a mask mandate on interstate planes, trains and buses, for instance, Mr. Biden is essentially codifying existing practice while encouraging rather than trying to require broader use of masks."

yeah, he can control that.
similarly, that's also what's already being done by public and private companies. it doesn't actually do anything except sound forceful. 99% rhetoric since everything it wants to do and everything it can do is already happening.

Yeah, that's what I was telling Chris.

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https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/eci.13484

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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

For the record, I was being super sarcastic.

I thought you were serious actually so thanks for clearing it up.

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DoomTheGyarados posted...

It's the reverse actually. Trump can't override public health safety laws, but Biden is likely enforcing ones here.

The context matters.

(I will look as there is a difference between law and mandate but pretty sure that difference is massive)

I don't think it will withstand legal challenge. They will just with hold federal funding of they don't comply tho

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DoomTheGyarados posted...

That has really never held up in court to my knowledge.

It is literally what happened with the lockdowns. Remember Trump couldn't force them to open up? States issue.

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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

A federal mask mandate sounds like a thing that will be simple.

You can't mandate it. It supercedes states rights. You can recommend it and enforce it whenever in regards to federal lands and threaten to withhold funding in a pandemic if you don't capitulate to it, but you cannot mandate it yourself across the nation


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Suprak the Stud posted...

Also what the fuck is the progressive agenda on infrastructure? That we have some?

Isn't it burning it down whenever convenient? Har har. I made a funny.

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masterplum posted...

I really dont get the agenda of you guys arguing with Corrik. What are you trying to accomplish here? Corrik may be wrong, but after the first few rebuttals he shrugs off it should be obvious you arent going to convert him.

Maybe there is still hope they can see the light, plum!

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Jakyl25 posted...

Never mind, the NBA has ended racism

https://twitter.com/atlhawks/status/1350128045781348352?s=21

I mean, you argued it is racist against non-African Americans so maybe that's just another feather in your cap, eh!

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PerfectChaosZ posted...

I think it's because you suck basket balls Corrik.

Nice. It's okay. I still have warm wishes for you regarding the pandemic and your unemployment issues and such and hope the best for you always. <3

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UshiromiyaEva posted...

Couldn't see more than like a 1/3 of the last 100 posts of that topic but I'm sure it was all pointless.

This poor guy. He wants his medal of courage for being scared of messages on a message board.

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Jakyl25 posted...

Do you support redistribution of this wealth directly to disadvantaged Americans?

Nope. I support giving everyone a relatively fairer start. I do not support handing from one to another. I support a UBI that all receive. A Universal Healthcare all receive. I support a seizure of all assets barring a maximum allowed inheritance to eligible persons that allows there to not be an insanely large gap between starting places and over time will make the gap miniscule at all.

Is what I support realistic? I suppose not. But, it is what I would argue for if I believed it could be.

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I thought we were gonna argue about basketball. Sad.

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Forceful_Dragon posted...

The existence of poor white people does not disprove racial inequality.

Poor white people were not literally slaves. Your analogy sucks.

White people have been slaves in the past. Obviously It is immaterial though. The poor African-Americans today have not been literally slaves. They are poor African-Americans. Same as poor Americans of any race. It isn't any more fair they are poor than it is fair that another American of any race is poor. Neither of them did anything to deserve what they were born into. Just like someone did not deserve to be born rich either and have that head start. It is why we should eliminate this via a better taxing of estates upon death.

What caused you to possibly be poor has no matter on the fact that you were born poor. It sucks regardless of the reasons.

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Forceful_Dragon posted...

This.

The analogy I really liked about this involves a game of monopoly between two players.

Player 1 gets to take 100 turns while player 2 sits on start.

So for 100 turns player 1 is accumulating wealth and property. After this player 1 probably owns most of the board.

Then player 2 is allowed to start, and the two players take turns as normal.

And they play, taking turns, for 100 more turns. But this only widens the disparity between the two players because player 1 was holding most the cards by the time player 2 was allowed to participate. So for most of the turns player 2 is just landing on player 1's property and paying rent.

Player 2 complains this is unfair.

Player 1 says "of course it's fair, we've both been following the same rules for 100 turns now"

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Even if we assume black people are being treated completely fairly now relative to white people (which is not a given) the disparity in their starting positions has still created systemic inequalities. The analogy is a bit over simplified, but it should be easy enough for all but the most obtuse to understand.

Now make the analogy correct.

You have 8 monopoly players. You have 1 monopoly player take 100 turns first. Then 7 other players get to play for 100 turns with the 8th player. The 8th player is even more rich. The other 7 players are poor but vary some. 4 of those players were White. 3 of them were African-Americans.

Was the issue race? Or economic?

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Jakyl25 posted...

When there are teams that wont draft them because of the stereotype, I disagree

I fail to think of many amazing talents that the NBA misses on, in comparison to many players who are taken a chance on and are busts.

I still remember the bucks drafting Yi Jianlian or whatever and him sucking ass. Darko. I mean the list relatively goes on. They take chances all the time on foreign talents. You have a problem with scouting reports, not the NBA system.

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Jakyl25 posted...

Its like how some teams in MLB accepted black players earlier than others. It was a slow adoption over time

Heres an article about anti-Euro bias in the NBA from 2018 that explains what Im trying to better than I am
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2802775-luka-doncic-has-the-goods-to-crush-the-nbas-euro-bias-once-and-for-all

This basically says they have to overcome not being as good as advertised. This is, of course, because they generally are playing in lesser leagues with lesser competition. Competition has been improving lately which is why this moniker is going away. Nothing to do with racism. Again. I told you this was going to be the wrong word.

These teams didn't simply tank their world teams versus us for how long because they were doing so to keep up the narratives. Like, I am pretty sure we sent amateurs all the time against their best players regularly for awhile. China doesn't restrict foreigners to certain numbers in China league because they are racist. They restrict those numbers because otherwise no Chinese would ever likely get to play in their own league. I mean, you could make debate there.

There is a reason guys who can't crack rosters are even are close to can go to other countries and be the stars of their leagues.

This isn't a systemic racism. It is that other countries are severely far behind us in talent right now. If the best players could be something else, they would be the people that are the stars of the league. The best players play. Having a stereotype and having to prove it wrong doesn't mean there is systemic racism.

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Jakyl25 posted...

But they WERE, very recently

No. They weren't. You argued they stereotype play some. Not that they restricted players.

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If you are going to argue anything systemic in the NBA, it would likely be in regards to height. There is a lot of good players who don't get much of a chance due to height and measurements. But, I mean, it's a pretty good indicator and the chances still exist.

The problem with your argument is that they aren't restricting foreign or non-Black involvement to keep a status quo. If you want to see that, go back to sports in the past where keeping black players down was a real issue, see Glory Road or The Express or so on for some media representations of it. Black players simply turn out to be better basketball players. Foreign nations have lagged behind us tremendously due to lack of engagement with the sports that has been Increasing steadily over time.

You could maybe argue that lower economic households tend to encourage more outside play which in turn leads to people being more athletic, I suppose. I don't know how that supports your narrative of systemic racism in the NBA though. I feel you painted yourself into a corner here on a relatively dumb argument.

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MoogleKupo141 posted...

remember when we all went Linsane because there was an Asian dude who was competent at basketball

whatever happened to that guy?

People realized he sucked, just had a small sample size decent run, and he hung around the league as a back up til I think last year or so until going poof.

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HeroicCrono posted...

semantic

Told ya. This was easy to avoid.

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Jakyl25 posted...

Non-black players are stereotyped, typecast, and undermined because their success threatens the status quo.

And, I seriously don't get your argument regarding this but what do you consider your points in favor of this?

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Jakyl25 posted...

Like didnt you study history?

Did you somehow come away that its just a series of independent unrelated events?

Yes, but you are comparing different ages as if they are the same. There is an evolution. You are claiming systemic racism exists in the NBA, a league where they scour the world for the best talents all the time.

The problem is your word racism almost undoubtedly.

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Jakyl25 posted...

Firstly, Im talking about within the past 20 years

Secondly, of course we talk about the past when discussing current issues! Its ignorant not to examine the history of bias, especially when the SAME PEOPLE have been in power the entire time

What is your exact argument? Within the last 20 years, you are claiming what?

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Jakyl25 posted...

This is just historically not true

And we are talking about now. We don't talk about 50 years ago when discussing current issues.

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Jakyl25 posted...

Do you NOT think there is inherent bias and stereotyping of white players or European players or Asian players?

Its gotten better but damn son

What?

I think players clearly delinearate themselves as more capable players based on their skills and the best players play assuming no outside factors. Race doesn't matter. If Steve Nash is the best, he plays. If Michael Jordan is the best, he plays. It's great to see when sports has been marred, like much of America with racism for far too long.

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