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azuarc posted...

I walked into Naxx with random greens from questing

Do I dare mention that people being carried has happened for the entire lifetime of the game? I think it was an even more common occurrence in vanilla/BC

azuarc posted...

I didn't care for the dungeon finder when it was introduced in BC

Your memory is failing you! The dungeon finder wasn't introduced until late wrath- patch 3.3.0, Icecrown Citadel

Your experience of Ulduar is valid. It sounds like you personally didn't have a great time in WotLK, just because of where your life was, what your expectations for the game were, and the timing of when you were playing. I do the same thing- there have been some good expansions I just wasn't that into, and some crummier expansions that I had a blast in because my friends were active and engaged

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azuarc posted...

Disagree strongly. Beginning of Wrath was what pushed me away from the game. Naxx was a recycled dungeon. Once you cleared the outdoor zones, the instances were a waste of time because gearing for Naxx was pointless. The dungeon finder absolutely ruined the game for anyone who wanted to run instances unless you were a healer or a tank. I loved the outdoor questing in Northrend, but after that point, Lich King was pretty terrible. We'd be waiting months for an actual raid besides two one-off encounters, and when it hit, I didn't care for Ulduar. It'd be over a year before we got another *real* raid, unless you count whatever TGT was, but I'd already quit the game by that point.

Wrath certainly had its weaknesses, and while I'm nostalgic for it I certainly wouldn't call it the best. But it's respectably close.

Naxx 2.0 and Trial of the Crusader were both disappointing as 'ultimate' raids, but they were excellent, and perhaps even ideal as stepping-stone or introductory raids.

I'll even defend Naxx further- something less than 2% of the playerbase had even stepped foot into Naxx 1.0 in vanilla. It was an ultra hardcore raid released mere months before the burning crusade invalidated everything with hellfire peninsula greens.

A total of 23 guilds had killed Kel'thuzad 1.0. For literally everyone else, Naxx 2.0 was a fantastic experience. Yes, after Hellfire greens had made raiders salty, they went in the opposite direction for wrath. If you were a super hardcore TBC raider, you could use your legendary warglaives in the first tier of Wrath. And that, evidently, made a separate group of raiders salty.

If you wanted an excuse to gear up in dungeons you could aim for an Immortal run- that was certainly one of the most nerve-wracking raids in the history of wow

Some of this is up to personal taste, but Ulduar is considered by the community to be the best raid of its time, and Icecrown Citadel was also considered fairly good. Those patches, with those stepping stones, either from Naxx --> Ulduar, or Trial --> Icecrown, were halcyon times for the game.

Yes, Trial was brief, had no trash, and some of the fights were rather straightforward. But that's what you want in last tier's raid.

The first real mistake of Wrath was Trial's 4-lockout system that seemed almost intentionally designed to create burnout. I took a break then, too, and came back once ICC was released. The second real mistake of Wrath was that Blizzard didn't give Ulduar time to breathe, and released the next tier (Trial) too quickly. This meant many people didn't see much of Ulduar, and the gap between ToC and ICC was too long.

Basically, if it wasn't for the mishandling of ToC, wrath would have been much closer to the running for best expansion of the game

As an addendum, I think the Dungeon Finder was a great feature. I understand nostalgia, but nothing sucked more than spamming the chat channels for 45 minutes to find a group, hoofing it to the dungeon, then having the tank disconnect after the first boss. LFG changed the game in a way that made it less prone to producing EVE-online-esque dramatic tales, but better for actual players who weren't guild officers

LFR, on the other hand, went too far. But that's a topic for another time

Lastly... don't forget about wintergrasp! That was a great idea and well executed

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MoogleKupo141 posted...

I have a Draenei elemental Shaman I played a million hours on and then dont know... I think I level boosted a Goblin Hunter (?) to 80 or whatever during Draenor and played that some. Thats probably my second most played.

Elemental shaman has contenders for my favorite spell sound and visual effects in the game. Those instant-cast guaranteed-crit Lava Burps aren't the absolute biggest numbers in the game (chaos bolt takes the honor), but they're close and man does that sound rock. Plus, at some point they updated lightning bolt to actually clap like thunder and look like lightning. sometimes the little things are nice

not to mention, executing that thundershock knockback on eye of the storm's flag is a unique experience. I've never feared a character's silhouette more than those crystal shoulderpads from the shaman pvp set in wrath

I may be done with the game forever though. I completely skipped the last expansion for the first time ever because it sounded like a bummer and Im just not sure Ill ever go back... but part of me is sad to abandon my main dude since Ive spent so much time with him.

Yeah, I honestly can't recommend coming back. It had been a bit under 2 years for me- I logged in for the free weekend to get these /played numbers and test out the new classes. Yes, I do recognize that this thread is counterproductive

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oh, and i'm absolutely nostalgic for the naxx/ulduar time period in wrath.

that felt like about the time when the game was really executing on its potential and things were coming together in terms of gameplay, lore, etc

not my top expansion, but pretty high up there when i'm wearing my red goggles

CoolCly posted...

Character list also:

Mannoroth and K'J are historically pretty serious servers iirc. Did you push PvE or PvP content?

And do you recommend classic?

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turbopuns3 posted...

But man, I loved grinding battlegrounds as disc.

Disc PvP was pretty amazing. I honestly don't keep up with things much anymore, but I assume it still is

Haven't spent much time with it since they transformed disc from 'the bubble spec' to the 'punch to heal' spec. Penance and PW:S are the 2 most satisfying healing spells in the game tho

turbopuns3 posted...

Oh and Strand of the Ancients. I loved that BG actually. I remember being really proud of getting the achievement for defending without losing any walls before they nerfed it to not be nearly impossible for the horde to accomplish.

dam son, iirc that bg was ridiculously imbalanced in favor of the alliance

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Sign me up! Assuming it really is a 26+ game

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fuming posted...

love to be lectured by people who confirm it was never said who I am when it actually was

I have the day off today and just woke up, can someone unscramble this for me?

Ok, you're saying you're a known alt... which account is it? A true town brain would put it in their sig

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lindsay graham makes my skin crawl by this point

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehA6bCn6k_0

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Peridiam posted...

My playtime ranked:

Priest (vanilla main)
Hunter (wotlk/cata main)
Paladin (tbc main)
Monk (mop/bfa main)
Demon Hunter (legion main)
Rogue (wod treasure/rep grinds)

It's neat that you're able to swap around. Do you have nostalgia for any of them?

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turbopuns3 posted...

100 Thousand Million Hours:

-Priest

Priests are glorious and were the bar other healing classes aimed for in all content

Do you have a favorite spec or expansion?

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Final fantasy

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hmm...

jojo's bizarre adventure

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CoolCly posted...

how do you feel about the class's fun to play value over the years? I know it became godlike in Wrath, not sure what it its like now.

Very good question, and oh man, do I have mixed feelings about paladin.

In General: Do not play a paladin in classic/tbc. It's boring as shit. The main reason I did so was because my parents' internet was garbage and I needed a class that wouldn't instantly die to 800 ping. Heavy armor, self healing, few active abilities, powerful auto-attacks, bubble-hearth... there's the ticket. (there's an iconic tbc era official forum meme about it that i might look up later) My first attempt was to create a troll axethrower, but after i realized that wasn't possible I ended up settling on paladin.

Ret: I don't really care about ret. It was overpowered in early wrath, but once it was toned down, the silly rotation was still fun. Then cataclysm saddled it with an awkward combo point mechanic, which wasn't tuned for fun until WoD and it's been shaky since. The spec is still okay today, but it's not my cup of tea. Utility still feels too low/passive.

Holy: Good since the creation of beacon of light (wotlk), and absolutely terrific since WoD. The niche of single/dual target healing, combined with good cooldowns and decent throughput and spot raid healing is extremely satisfying to me. There was a time when I'd say I was as good as any other non-professional paladin player in the world. My personal nadir was the period from the end of cataclysm to... I think maybe mists? Whatever period it was that they gave us "Holy Radiance"- a boring spammy AoE spell, sometimes with a HoT- to help us keep up in lame LFR. It didn't feel like paladin healing to me. I used to be envious of priest healers, but they've given paladins so many new toys over the years that I can't complain.

Protection: It's been up and down. Always functional. I think it's in a good spot now. Peak was probably Legion, but it hasn't sunk far since then. Nowadays I prefer leveling and questing as prot over ret- I feel invincible, can pull as many mobs as I want, and don't get dazed when punched in the butt. Gets me from point A to point B at the fastest possible mounted speed.

Overall, the class is always great in dungeons + raids. Healing is always solid in PvP. The class is always functional if boring while questing. The class respects your attention- it doesn't try to distract you with 500 balls to juggle when you'd rather be focusing on the fight and the rest of your team.

Tier lists will always go up and down, but for the last ten years paladins have always had a passing grade in tanking and healing. Rets can roll around in their wheelchairs for all I care.

I main paladin because I love both tanking and healing, love instant queues for any content, and love being good at what I do. When adding everything together paladin usually has the most fun combo of both roles. If there existed a half entertaining shockadin ranged dps spec i might not have ever leveled another class

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BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

I think people really overestimate how bipartisan supreme court judges actually are. I can't see any of them just retiring to slam through appointing a younger judge.

I used to agree whole heartedly, but I think really it comes down to the individual desires of each justice. The supreme court has/had been held together by a few justices that valued legitimacy and reputation of the court above all else.

I don't think the court is partisan in general, but they do have ideological leanings. RBG wanted to have her replacement picked by hillary for a reason. And it's impossible to call Kavanaugh non-partisan. Justice Thomas is super right wing, etc etc

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Steiner posted...

good news, shadow priest is currently the strongest dps spec in the game

This man speaks the truth! Spriests are going to be top diggity dog for the next 6 months at least.

While we're here, have one of my favorite warrior/shadow priest videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRGDcwOxBzY


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LordoftheMorons posted...

I mained a warlock the whole time I played WoW (BC through the beginning of Legion, skipping Pandaria). I mostly played destro, but also a bit of demo. I did not enjoy what little experience I had with affliction.

I've come around on warlocks. Never been a huge fan of dot-management classes, but I respect those that execute them well.

Warlocks seem to get revamped every other expansion (which is a turn-off), but when destro or demonology are powerful I get pulled back in a little. I think chaos bolt has to create the biggest numbers in the game, and that's worth something. Demonology got robbed when demon hunters stole back metamorphosis, but I like the 'summon one billion demons' thing they've got going on right now.

LordoftheMorons posted...
I also had a druid at max level (mostly cat druid).

Oh, druids. I want to like that class so badly. On paper they're perfect! The only class that can fill all 4 roles (tank, healer, ranged dps, melee dps), the best farming perks (instant flight form) and coolest aesthetics (customizable animal and tree forms). Community sense of humor is the best. I enjoyed all 3 specs in wrath, but at some point it stopped clicking for me

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foolm0r0n posted...

Mage has the most fun balance of movement, positional abilities, and big risk/reward cast attacks so I liked it a lot. You could do a lot of optimizations and tricks to beat people who have way better gear than you.

Everything you say about mages is true- they're so smooth. It feels like they design abilities for mages and then find excuses to give other classes a more awkward version. They're flavorful, functional, with many abilities but rarely complex for the sake of complexity. I leveled my first character being entirely envious of mages in battlegrounds, and once I actually played one I felt so overpowered. Completely destroyed everything except hunters. If you quit during BC you never got to experience the joy of Spellsteal. Now that's a yoink and a half.

foolm0r0n posted...

I really liked the Warrior too, so much burst DPS, but only because my friend got the best hammer and armor for him already. In general I played PvP way more than PvE, which is why I never actually leveled a character to max.

Warriors back in the day had a gargantuan toolkit that rewarded skill and gear excellently. I think that's still the case, but the ability pruning in WoD and changes to stat scaling have made it more reasonable.

I didn't play the class until wrath, and was mostly a Prot juggernaut/stunfactory, but as Arms is the forever recommended PvP spec. My favorite single moment in my history with the game is when I rocketed a flag across warsong gulch to win the game at the last possible moment using a series of Charge -> Intercept -> Intervene -> Charge combined with Spell Reflect, Disarm, Enrage, and Interrupts to keep myself moving

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Peace___Frog posted...

Imagine how much the value for homes would go up if people could actually save up for a house

Oh lordy. I've already paid off my student loans and i don't own a house

I guess i should selfishly be opposed to forgiveness, or maybe buy a house right now

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My sense of justice reflexively wants future state tuition to be free, but people who are already in debt to live with their choice

The cold, rational, "red pilled" answer is that giving money to pay off these loans would supposedly be the most efficient way to boost the economy

These are skilled, working people that would be spending their salaries in the economy if they weren't having their wages drained by their debt to the government

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I think it'd be hilarious, but I also suspect it's not possible

Just like how you can't be both senator and president

He could resign and have pence appoint him

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foolm0r0n posted...

That family is just sad af to me. I can't subscribe to these ideas that they are evil masterminds pulling all these strings. They are large gears in the machine and they play their role. They didn't win anything. There's no purpose or intrigue to any of this. It's just an out of control system that no one has the incentive to stop.

I dunno man. GWB certainly wasn't the only mastermind but he wasn't an innocent. He decided to go into Iraq even though he knew the evidence was a lie.

He went back there to finish his daddy's Gulf War and make a ton of money for himself, Cheney, and the rest.

He quite possibly also thought it was the right thing to do in a twisted way, but he was absolutely jonesing for an excuse to do it

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azuarc posted...

Literally zero since they didn't exist at the time
T11. Demon Hunter
T11. Monk

Both of those classes are worth playing. Demon Hunter in particular is a joy. I'm also partial to Brewmaster, and Windwalker has a couple of very satisfying buttons.

azuarc posted...

Characters I've leveled to 60 at least three times each, and played as my main at different points
2. Priest
1. Hunter

You have good taste. Which specs did you like, and when? Cataclysm-era Discipline and Survival are among my favorite MMO classes of all time

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Anagram posted...

What class gets the most success in PUGs?

this is a good question, and one I could talk about for too long

the answer (as it is for any good question) is that it depends. it depends on how you define success- being desirable to groups? success in accomplishing your task? personal convenience? or something else? do you value lower stress roles? do you care more about the class's skill floor or skill ceiling? What level of intensity are you looking for?

in typical 5-man PvE content, being a tank instantly finds you groups and you're immediately in charge, for better or for worse. as GF implied, rogues do have an ability- "shroud of concealment"- that is uniquely useful to highly competent PUGs in the highest "mythic plus" tiers of content, but I'd still say that tanks have more success in general.

in raids, healers are always in demand- every group always has 2 dedicated tanks already

Other classes have their perks- but those go up and down from patch to patch.

I've played the game on and off since 2007, and little to no advice has been consistently true from TBC all the way through Shadowlands.

I'd say that ranged DPS usually has a better quality of life than melee dps, and "pure" dps classes are often better supported.

On the other hand- we're talking about PUGs. Paladins, hunters, mages, and rogues have the premier 'get of of fuckin dodge when the pug goes south' abilities in the game, in that order.

That's how I define success in PUGs

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UshiromiyaEva posted...

Mmmmmmm, imagine if Trump has severe dirt on, like....MOST of the Senate. Like forced special election tier shit.

Mmmmmm I'll be happy to read/hear him say shit for the first time in my entire life.

That's a really good point. I always wondered if trump had any sort of real "dirt" or leverage on people, aside from "you can't win re-election without my support"

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#12: Demon Hunter (12 hours, 43 minutes)
#11: Warlock (1 day, 16 hours, 38 minutes)
#10: Monk (3 days, 16 hours, 43 minutes)
#09: Rogue (4 days, 6 hours, 11 minutes)
#08: Priest (6 days, 6 hours, 6 minutes)
#07: Shaman (9 days, 7 hours, 16 minutes)
#06: Death Knight (13 days, 17 hours, 53 minutes)
#05: Hunter (13 days, 28 hours, 10 minutes)
#04: Druid (14 days, 22 hours, 33 minutes)
#03: Warrior (19 days, 14 hours, 9 minutes)
#02: Mage (27 days, 34 hours, 55 minutes)
#01: Paladin (118 days, 12 hours, 10 minutes)

AMA about WoW

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if the neocons are actually gonna tackle the coronavirus, climate change, health care, etc seriously i don't see the problem

i think bernie & co have done a good job of bringing these issues to the forefront

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Everyone's pretty much already said what I was going to, but I'll add a little bit of trivia.

One: I think AP/FOX called arizona WAY too early and they were too embarrassed to retract calling it

This is because they assumed the mail-in ballots would trend the same way as in other states.

They were wrong because Arizona has a 'permanent early voting list' you can register for. This means you automatically get mail-in ballots for every election. So republicans in arizona got their automatic mail-in ballots they had registered for years ago and used them. and since historically republicans were more prone to registering for mail-in ballots, the race is getting closer instead of more decisive

Two: Florida was counted so quickly because they allow mail-in ballots to be counted at the same time as in-person ballots

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I was not around, but people i know were.

Baby earthquakes compared to the west coast, but it's still remarkable

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Projected Republican nominee is nikki haley

It's hard to imagine the DNC competing against its incumbents, so it's down to whether Biden is up for the task

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It was finally explained to me why Arizona is different

They have a system where you can sign up as a permanent absentee voter, and mostly Republicans use it

But fox and ap assumed arizona was like every other state, which sees mail in votes coming in as overwhelmingly democratic

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i'm behind on the times. what did JKR do that was bad? did she says trans women shouldn't compete in womens weightlifting or somethin

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quick question for you all- which country or state do you think trump will physically be in on march 1st, 2021?

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absolutely.

i'm skeptical she could win a general election in the america we live in but i won't let that stop me in this theoretical poll

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google says he sued a newspaper that called him a wifebeater and lost. could that be it?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-54779430

he isn't found guilty of anything but maybe the bad press was enough

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we might disagree on the specifics but we're all working towards improving america. arguing differently is unamerican

when a foreign country invades the nation, our military doesn't only protect the people that voted for the current leader

trump actively worked to harm those that voted against him. that is unamerican. no president should do that

i hope you can agree

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iirc you live out in wyoming or something. it's just really lonely out there. not much you can do about it and you're not the only person experiencing this

i think the path to happiness is to start loving yourself. then, you love your friends. then, you love the people that treat you well.

for the next cool person you meet, aim to gain a new friend circle, rather than a romantic partner. we're social animals, and people like that energy. the original person may not feel the connection you're looking for, but you'll get along with their friends and probably enjoy their company. having friends means having even more total positive social connections and you'll hit it off with someone eventually

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Well, i bet $500 on Georgia being the closest state at 10 to 1

I guess I'm winning 5k minus taxes

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_stingers_ posted...

FFX

i thought of this, but i dont think fake final/victory lap bosses should count

we all know the real final boss is BFA (making this spoiler for a 20 year old game longer for some reason)

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see that's the problem with being spiderman

a bad guy can just put on the mask and everybody thinks you did it

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It bears repeating that you all should use the ignore button

The only voter fraud I'm aware of is a republican dickhead that votes in both their winter (Florida) and summer (new England) homes, according to their drunken boasting

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LordoftheMorons posted...

https://twitter.com/JimVandeHei/status/1324324844645863424

In "shocking" news, Mitch is already signaling that he's not going to give Biden discretion to pick his own cabinet without interference

If that's the case, I'd prefer Biden pull a trump, not fill the positions, and have a bunch of "acting" cabinet members

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Kernels of Truth

9/11 was an inside job - government agencies had intel on it but weren't competent enough to act
Moon landing was faked - nasa released promotional material with photos of astronauts 'floating' in a studio
Earth is flat - ???
Aliens are in Area 51 - something's in area 51, and the government tests flying stuff and won't say what it is
Something something 5G towers - capitalist technology companies don't care about our health
Pizzagate - rich people are pedophiles, too, and epstein is real
Climate change is a hoax - ???
Vaccines are bad, don't take them - pharmaceutical companies are scumbags
COVID is a hoax, don't wear masks - people die every day and life goes on
JFK assassination was an inside job - lots of people wanted him dead, including the mob


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WazzupGenius00 posted...

If you mean DrDisrespect we still dont know

right, we don't know for sure. at this point it seems very likely twitch wanted out of his overpriced contract and arguably illegally terminated it

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SantaRPidgey posted...

Let me have a fucking 4 year break from people thinking the country is going to die every week

if you wanna keep the fear alive you can just start worrying about the supreme court flipping the table

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nevada only has 67% reporting. i'm impatient, what's the holdup?

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i still think the flat earth documentary 'behind the curve', while not actively about trumpers, goes to show how people can get behind someone or something that's just objectively false

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that makes sense, he's a great person. it's too bad he wasn't able to do much of anything, good or bad

it's similar to how it seems every democrat's favorite republican is bush sr, because he lost

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regardless of this election's outcome, we have learned today that 2016 was not a fluke

we still live in the same america that blames migrant children for being locked in cages, that marched with tiki torches chanting about blood and soil and jews at charlottesville, that voted for the mexican border wall, that resisted the civil rights movement, that held nazi rallies in 1939, and endorsed slavery

the question is- what are we going to do with that knowledge?

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You did indeed stab me in the back. However, you are only level one, whilst I am level 50. That means I should remain uninjured.

when 37% of the country is out of sync with reality i don't blame anyone with being "out of step" with the crazies.

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You did indeed stab me in the back. However, you are only level one, whilst I am level 50. That means I should remain uninjured.

wang, the best thing you ever did was that zeratul clown nose writeup for mercs

you've been wrong ever since

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You did indeed stab me in the back. However, you are only level one, whilst I am level 50. That means I should remain uninjured.