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persecution complex on display itt

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lmao

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OmegaPillow posted...

Sorry I dont speak geek ebonics , enlighten me

he doesn't know



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OmegaPillow posted...

Wtf is a lolcow?

lmao


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OmegaPillow posted...

You know theres a block feature on Twitter right?

you really are a lolcow

Rowling's harassment likely begins and ends on twitter

a trans person's oppression does not end by blocking J.K. Rowling because she'd be used as a credible voice among conservative politicians to enact legislation

fucking durrrrrr

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OmegaPillow posted...

Nah , they went on Twitter wishing for her dead , that's pathetic and more harmful as someone can attempt to murder her because her opinion is different from theirs. This is America, shes allowed to say what she wish. Anyone can

yeah it's really interesting how words can actually end up leading to harm

really

makes

you

t h i n k


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Using the "ignore negativity" thing on trans people, a minority that is actively oppressed in many areas, but not the ultra wealthy billionaire is some lolcow shit

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pinky0926 posted...

A lot of bathrooms in my city are now gender neutral. There's women walking into cubicles right next to urinals.

It's odd though, I've yet to come across the inevitable horde of crossdressing rapists relishing the chance now that there isn't a nefarious gendered bathroom sign barring them from entry. When does that bit happen?

the "ur gonna get molested in the bathroom" thing is basically just this shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17u01_sWjRE

literally a 60 year old homophobic psa depicting gay men as mentally ill & predatory. no different to how social conservative commentary treats trans people. its fucking disgusting tbh


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OmegaPillow posted...

Wishing death on her is more pathetic and looks worse than she does

I don't advocate for wishing death upon J.K. Rowling. It's undeniably immature. However, what she does is significantly more harmful.

1: People send hateful comments to J.K. Rowling, a specific, highly wealthy individual who has access to whatever resources she'd ever want.

2: J.K. Rowling, a specific, highly wealthy individual engaging in anti-trans commentary being propped up by right-wing commentators & politicians with legislative power who want to make the average trans person - i.e. a vulnerable minority in many cases and areas - easier to discriminate against.

The latter is by all metrics harmful than the former even when we agree the former is petty and useless. Rowling even loses on optics here because she literally disassociated from Steven King just because he tweeted "Trans women are real women."

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OmegaPillow posted...

Shes entitled to her opinion and she said nothing wrong.

well actually yes, she's very wrong, and people are entitled to criticize her

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OmegaPillow posted...

Pyscho? Silence of the lambs ? This is nothing new.

A: yes, transphobia is old

B: those directors didn't post anti-trans screeds on the equivalent of social media months prior to the release of their movies

this isn't hard to follow

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Kastrada posted...

It also affects cis-individuals that don't fall into the cis-looking categories.

A butch woman could not "pass an eye test" and be prevented from using the bathroom. I think this happened too.

It did. A cop or a security person literally tore off someone's clothes

remember though, conservatives love "Small government"

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still have no idea how qanon acts like trump isn't in on it lmao

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Butterfiles posted...

Well you know, right now restrooms across the world famously have bouncers that prevent any would be neer-do-wells from gaining access.

what's bizarre is that bathroom bills by design necessitate genital police because otherwise it can't be enforced, making the concept of the law worthless, unless the whole point is making certain people feel unsafe

really makes you t h o n k

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for reference, bathroom laws that are being proposed would force, say, a FtM trans person to enter a woman's bathroom, even if they clearly look like a man.

the point of bathroom bills is to endanger Trans people by forcing them to break laws designed to discriminate against trans persons or force social stigmatization by having to out themselves on the spot in public if anybody asks why X gender looking person is going into Y gender bathroom.

it is literally the same type of insidious legal design as every anti-gay law that was on the book for decades

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why is it particularly relevant for restrooms


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we talk about sawing off florida

but can we yeet the dakotas to canada

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can't believe Hatsune Miku wrote such a great YA series

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Duncanwii posted...

If I say I'm not getting enough I'm not getting enough.

what ww2 vets fought for, folks

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Duncanwii posted...

I legit cannot get enough oxygen while wearing a Mask.

yes you can, shut up

i have multiple medications for asthma and i wear my mask in public like a big boy

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the fat's not the issue, it's the fucking empty carbs

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based

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the weebs won

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intensely indifferent. won't ever watch it and no matter how gross it is i doubt it'll destroy society sooooo meh

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008Zulu posted...

The Lightspeed Ram can only be bad once. The Greedo scene is bad multiple times due to all the crappy changes made to it over the years.

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Dude theres no way Im reading all of this when you havent understood a single ramification of anything youve said in this topic

okay, that's fine. i explained everything really thoroughly since i'm aware this is a long topic and some of my posts have been missed and you took every post I did make the worst way that no other person on earth would, but i'll take the goalpost shifts you've made as a concession


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shockthemonkey posted...

Look, my ideas are perfectly reasonable. No one else would ever take advantage of political parties being forcefully broken up. Just like no one will ever take advantage of ballot access being restricted.

Are you really not getting it?

Your argument would make sense if my sole suggestion was to add rules for party existence conditions being added to law and nothing else. The problem is that I'm suggesting way, way more than that to make the base system equitable. The dissolution of the GOP would involve;

-Poll location openings at community demand
-Redistricting that eliminates gerrymandering in its entirety where redistricting is done by a non-partisan entity
-The institution of ranked choice voting and instant runoffs
-Broad mail-in ballot access
-Broad early voting allowance

*these are all popular ideas that cannot be enacted as long as an agitator party seeking to create a thinning White majority while oppressing all others exists

These factors produce an environment that would likely create a number of different political parties, some of which are likely single issue, but would nonetheless impact the platforms of whatever new major parties formed in a post-reform soup.

Once this is established - like many leftist reforms - it would be very hard to actually curtail, because the populace would be actively engaged in democracy because their interests would be more regularly represented than they are now.

So the "next guy" comment necessitates a later degradation or collapse similar to our current situation. I can't tell you that'd never happen, just that it'd take a very long time, and that the three things I suggested are effective ways of ensuring a system actually lasts because they all represent the most direct threats to Democracies

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shockthemonkey posted...

You just set precedent for parties being broken up because someone said so,

No, I said parties should be broken up if they are a foreign asset, engage in fascism, or are the only major party. There's logical reasons for all of those from a national policy point of view. There's a reason terrorism is illegal and anti-trust laws exist, as obvious examples for other areas of society.

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shockthemonkey posted...

Ok and the next guy who wants to break up political parties does he have to use the exact same rules you made up tonight?

Why would "the next guy" need to break up political parties if ranked choice voting existed and fascist parties were illegal

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shockthemonkey posted...

Theres an extremely limited number of circumstances, but also those circumstances apply to every party yeah ok this is definitely a smart argument

??????????? no

There are four relevant political parties in the United States. I suggested three unacceptable conditions for parties, in my opinion.

-None of these apply to the Libertarian Party.

-None of these currently apply to the Democratic Party, but "one party rule" would apply should the GOP dissolve.

-The GOP is fascist.

-The Green Party is currently used as a foreign asset, depending on the state.

The points apply to two parties lol and it's only started to apply to two parties as of the last 10 years.

Like I've said 20 times now, if you think the GOP isn't fascist or think that's acceptable in a way that permits them to remain as a political party, address that. I wouldn't suggest broad reforms if I thought the system as it stands wasn't deeply broken.

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shockthemonkey posted...

If you think thats a refutation rather than a demonstration of what I said then I really dont know what to tell you dude.

Advocating for ranked choice voting means nothing when youre also advocating that you should be able to control what parties exist.

My only suggestion for any form of perpetual party control is to dissolve fascist institutions. If you disagree with the idea that the GOP is fascist or that fascist institutions should necessarily be dissolved by force, that's your argument to make and a discussion that can be had.

"Control what parties exist" is another bad misinterpretation of what I'm arguing and it's a huge goalpost shift on your part. I evidently agree with the existence of parties whose policy platforms I disagree with, so now you're acting like this is some vague control attempt when I've made it clear that there's an extremely limited number of circumstances in which I support the dissolution of political parties, that being

-they've been bought by foreign influence and aid in destabilization
-they engage in fascism
-they are the only major party

Only the middle one necessitates any form of long term policies because the former cannot effectively exist in ranked choice voting and neither can the latter


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shockthemonkey posted...

Its hard to keep track of where your random rants are at any given moment, given how they started with allowing a few Greens on the Texas ballot will lead to fascism and ended up at we should only have political parties I agree with.

I don't even agree with this sentiment. My argument was that the GP as it stands should nationally be dissolved because it's a foreign tool. I don't actually believe this matters if states have ranked choice voting because the GP cannot operate as a spoiler in those states (Maine as an example.)

I literally posted this

i'm actually speaking more broadly here in case it wasn't clear

In response to the idea that this was exclusively over the Texas Green party. It's not. Obviously they won't lead to a rise of fascism, I was using the thread as a jumping off point to discuss my grievances with the practices of the modern Green Party as a whole at the national level where it IS an effective spoiler and has been on multiple occasions. Me referencing Nader's GP and even discussing broader electoral reforms should've been an obvious tip off to this but the thread is long so if you didn't follow that, that's fine

also to address this nonsense

we should only have political parties I agree with.

1: I suggested that the GP should be dissolved because of its status as a foreign asset, not because I disagree with the Green party's stated policies. I am a Socialist

2: I suggested the GOP should be dissolved because it is an increasingly open fascist party and you must aggressively attack fascism. That's not "Because I disagree", it's because fascists kill people they don't like.

3: I suggested the Democratic party be dissolved because under the above scenario it'd otherwise become a one party entity and I don't think that's good in a post-GOP system that's reforming itself from all the damage done by McConnell and Trump.

I never once mentioned entities like the Libertarian party even though a post-fascist reform America where the GOP is dissolved into smaller parties would likely be very beneficial to the Libertarian Party since it's already seen as a GOP alternative. It shouldn't be dissolved.

Finally, I never suggested curtailing the existence of would-be conservative parties. I feel like my now multiple-times stated support of ranked choice voting should've made that clear but you've reached for the single worst way to interpret everything I've said in this thread so maybe I should've specified (or maybe you shouldn't accuse me of being anti-democracy in a post where I suggest electoral reforms that include ranked choice voting.)

jesus christ man

Now if you want to disagree with those individual points, go ahead and explain why you think the GOP isn't fascist or why we should allow the platforming of fascists, or explain why you think the GP isn't a foreign tool or why they should be allowed ballot access in spite of this. I'm not being rhetorical or snide on this, these are all actual discussions that could reasonably be had.

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shockthemonkey posted...

Is this all you have left? Comparing the Green Party to Nazis because your argument is that you dont like democracy and believe that only political beliefs you agree with should be allowed to exist?

No, Im not. Hes anti-democracy. Hes advocating that only political parties he agrees with should he allowed to exist, while arguing that allowing the Greens to get on the Texas ballot will bring in fascism. Its absolute batshit insanity that lacks any intellectual thought.

what the fuck are you talking about. i'm comparing the GOP to nazis

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For reference, even if you want to ignore the embrace of Qanon, border camps, the increased use of white supremacist slogans & talking points, the gross negligence in the COVID response that disproportionately affects minorities, the threats of increasingly conservative SC justices that would be openly partisan in favor of all of these things, the GOP is still way worse that the Democratic party in this extremely narrow and thin context.

The Texas GOP has done mid-decade redistricting with the expressed purpose of using it as a gerrymandering tool and the vast majority of polling place closures have been in locations with the most accelerated growth of Latino and Black populations.

It's perverse to even compare the two. You'd have to have some kind of enormous chip on your shoulder to even think the awful shit the GOP does on voting rights alone is even comparable to removing green party ballot access, especially in this narrow-ass context of them not paying fees that dem/Rep parties have to pay.


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FL81 posted...

The GOP is doing literally the exact same thing, denying ballot access to Libertarians

Well, if that was the only thing the GOP was doing, I'd agree it's pretty same-y. But it's not. And you know that.

don't engage in verbal diarrhea

That was a very coherent sentence that clearly got the point across. He's refusing to engage with literally anything I say and accusing me of things I am explicitly not while implying, to the benefit of the GOP, that the Democrats removing GP ballot access = what the GOP is doing. Leftist infighting has historically benefited conservative or fascist establishments.


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this honestly should've been biden's campaign slogan

it's so bad it circles around to being funny

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also

anti democracy: people shouldn't vote

me: modern political parties should be dissolved and reformed and voting should actually matter so we should abolish the EC and institute ranked choice voting to ensure this never happens again


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shockthemonkey posted...

Bro you already went full anti-democracy, no one is taking you seriously anymore

Were democracies that continue to exist in 2020 from post-WW2 reconstructionism that barred the formation of Nazi parties "anti-democracy" or was that just common sense because Nazis infiltrated and destroyed democracies


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shockthemonkey posted...

Ok so you think a picture of Jill Stein should disqualify all Green Party members from being allowed on the ballot?

it's more the fact that she met and spoke with Vladimir Putin and Michael Flynn, two important figures in the objective case of the Russian government actively interfering with the 2016 election and attempting to infiltrate the Trump campaign, per the Senate, and the Mueller investigation, and common sense

And you think that removing parties from the ballot is the best way to prevent fascism?

well, yes, removing openly fascist parties like the Republican party would be a great way at preventing fascism, but i know unity Dems would never back that even though Republican officials openly endorse neo nazi figures like Loomer

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NinjaWarrior455 posted...

SHOCKED to see the neolib Dems applauding this decision. Absolutely SHOCKED.

also i love that im being called a neolib dem when i support tons of broad reforms that neolibs would literally never support and i actively mock users like broseph on here/261

very cool

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*i also believe post-Trump reforms should include the forced dissolution of the Republican party similar to the barring of America First/Nazi parties, the Democratic party splitting into a liberal & progressive party, the abolishment of the electoral college, and universal ranked choice voting so actual third parties can exist in a way where, for example, the Green Party would never be capable of being a spoiler

so if you're wondering what my broad beliefs are, there, but these things aren't happening any time soon, and frankly, neither is the nationwide removal & investigation of the Green Party, so you can sleep well I guess

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shockthemonkey posted...

Do you think the Green Party should be legally forced to disband or disallowed from being on any ballots? Do you think that Greens in Texas getting a handful of votes will be the thing that ushers in fascism or something? Like literally what the fuck is your argument beyond fuck democracy, only candidates I approve of deserve ballot access?

well if we're talking what I should should happen i actually believe in pretty significant electoral reform, but yeah the party whose candidate was a foreign asset should probably be investigated thoroughly and thrown off ballots

for the same reason Kanye shouldn't get ballot access

i'm actually speaking more broadly here in case it wasn't clear

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like uh



jill stein was 100% a foreign asset lmao

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NinjaWarrior455 posted...

Is this a fucking joke post?

no? Nader definitely was a spoiler and it's really obvious just looking at the vote totals

like I said I don't really hold it against Nader. He's done great things and I think he had earnest intentions, but I do not believe the green party is even remotely similar now

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shockthemonkey posted...

No

Im arguing that all of it is bad

How is this difficult? You want bad precedent because youre only concerned with who it is happening to, so youve come up with some absolutely insane scenario where the Green Party getting 40 votes is going to elect Tom Cotton.

It's not insane to suggest the Green Party is, can be, and has been a spoiler party. I don't have any actual negative feelings towards the '00 Green Party or Ralph Nader, but it's pretty much undeniable that Nader was a major factor in Gore not winning. There were massive consequences as a result of this.

Now imagine a party that's actively operating on the notion it can exploit infighting to benefit the Republican Party. That's what Stein did in 2016.

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the quarterpounder lmao

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