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Welp, finished season 3. It is definitely a nice rebound from season 2. Vaatu being explained as a part of the Red Lotus plan along with showing up (albeit in hallucination form) gave me some ptsd though, yuck! As I mentioned before, the air nomads were the most appealing part of this show. I'm glad to see the large impact they get to have in this show. They are my favorite part of the show personally.

Man, this season definitely had more of what I like in terms of villains. As I said in the last post, I don't mind one-dimensional villains, I just hated Unalaq and Vaatu. The Earth Queen was a textbook "I kick puppies" kinda villain, and I did hate her, but in the way you should hate a villain. She reminded me more of Ozai, in that her basic one-dimensional villainy improved the overall ensemble. It's crazy that the show featured her gruesome suffocation, though. Props to the showrunners and Nick for letting it happen (I know Nick screwed this show over, but at least they did let the showrunners do things like this).

Zaheer himself was exactly what someone like Unalaq should have been. His motivations were less "evil = good" and more of a distorted view of what balance is. To be fair to him, as well, his points about how the leadership has failed was mostly true. The Avatar has long failed the people in terms of keeping them from suffering under oppressive rulership. The Firelords during the 100 year war, the Earth Queen, the Northern Water Tribe, and the president with his cowardice, has long been a major cause of people's discomfort in this world. In terms of grey villains, I feel he did it better than Amon did (who kinda fell flat in the end). Lastly, he gave me what I wanted in terms of seeing the extremes someone could go with air bending, so that was a plus as well.

His gang also gets points for actually being pretty likeable, in terms of villains, for the short amount they got to show a little personality. They were small moments, but I think they worked well. I believe the bending was at its best this season, as well, mainly because we got to see a wide range with the villains and heroes in terms of both primary and secondary powers. Also, I liked some of the new settings, the metal clan city was pretty sick. Suyin and Opal were great additions to the world as well imo. While some would have preferred if the original series was never mentioned, I'm glad to see characters like Zuko get a direct appearance, as well as the impact the former characters had on today's world.

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Doe posted...

Maybe, I'm not a brony or fan, I just find it very noticeable in 3d models. Like, they didn't even design separate models as far as I can tell, they just took the same horse and colored it different. And stuck different hair/ears on

I'm not either, but since my youngest sister watches it all the time, I have had my fair share of MLP:FiM in my life, lol.

That's exactly what they do in that show. They basically have a female pony and male pony cutout they use for each pony in terms of shape. Just like you described it, each have a different color and style, but it's still pretty apparent.

Only a few have a unique body shape.

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I mean, tbh, the gen 4 designs used a ton of copy paste.

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au_gold posted...

Im calling bullshit on this.

She's always called him a clown.


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also, Vy has never directly supported Trump. Wtf

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Ah, the ol' left-wing defense of calling those who don't 100% support their every belief a troll. It's crazy that democrats are so deluded in their beliefs that they are always right. It must be so exhausting being literally perfect.

Calling vyrulisse a troll is very... strange to say the least.


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Gobstoppers12 posted...

Hahaha...haha...yeah...there's at least one great technique that comes to mind.

Nice. Can't wait to see it, lol!


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pegusus123456 posted...

What do you think of Zaheer's gang?

I forgot to even mention them, but they are what I imagined a villain group in the Avatar-verse to be. Back in the original Avatar, we got to see all the different element-benders join together to save the day. Finally, we get to see a distinct group fight the Avatar. It is a lot more interesting than always seeing "Fire nation bad; water nation bad; earth nation bad." Also glad the third eye fire bending concept is back. That was always one of the cooler villains in concept back in the original Avatar, so I'm glad they brought that back. Lava-bending is a pretty sick extended use of earth-bending (and a good change tbh from the original where they seemed to heavily imply that would be more of a fire-bending technique since fire = hot = lava). Finally, it's cool to see how airbending can be used for a less-than-righteous purpose for once. I hope to see some creative uses of a more aggressive air-bending in the upcoming episodes.

Character-wise, I don't have an opinion quite yet. None of the characters have been deeply explored nor their motivations, so I will withhold judgement until then. I just hope they aren't as one-dimensional as season 2 villains were! Zaheer does have this zealot-tone to him, as he obviously respects the ancient air-bending masters, but obviously is an extremist with the teachings.

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Season 3 is definitely a great turnaround so far. I'm just glad to be out of the spirit-world Raava/Vaatu good vs evil nonsense. I've liked the small bits of spirit stuff seen in this season; this is better in my opinion just for reasons I've already stated.

As I said before, part of my main interest in Korra was the reconstruction of the Air Nomad civilization, so this has been fun to watch in that regard. The episode they were trying to recruit new air nomads was pretty funny too!

Also screw the Earth Queen. She ate Bosco, wtf!!! Why did the show have to even let me know that happened! I already hated her before, but god damn, now I loathe her! Man, this is one time I wish Aang was the Avatar while this was going on because if he saw what she was doing to fellow air benders, you know he would have lost it. Remember how Roku just barged into Firelord Sozin's throne room and completely trashed his old friend along with half the palace? I wonder how Aang would have reacted finding out about the Earth Queen.

I actually didn't mind all the focus in Republic City or the Southern Water Tribe, but it is kinda nice to see some exploration again just like the old show. Also, I think Suyin vs Lin just might be my fight of the show so far. It was a damn nice earth vs earth fight. So far, outside of the Avatar final battle (as I like the fight due to seeing the elements work in conjunction with each other), I find the best battles of Avatar to be between excellent fighters of the same element. Katara vs Pakku, The Final Agni Kai, and now Suyin vs Lin are probably my favorite fights of the series. Perhaps, we can get an epic air vs air battle in the near future?

The episode I just finished is episode 7 by the way, so I'm now halfway done with this season.

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I never played Rising, but I love watching them cutscenes, lol.

Senator Armstrong is definitely my favorite villain from a game I never played.

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She doesn't really. For one thing, most sites will present the mainstream stuff before anything anyways. All "state-approved" content will do is make kids more desensitized to the tame stuff than they already are and actively search out more risque stuff.

This is coming from someone who ain't a boomer like y'all and actually remembers what it was like to be a teenager not that long ago.

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It would never work. Kinks are something that people will search for.

I'd argue this idea would only cause teens to look for hardcore stuff much earlier.

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No 3d Mario apart from direct sequels are alike. To complain Nintendo is not innovative is idiotic and shows you don't actually play the games.

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The Cubs "dynasty" of *checks notes* one World Series championship and appearance 5 years ago sure was one helluva dynasty, am I right?



Cardinals gonna shine 11 more trophies before the Cubs trophy rusts away again.

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Get as many of your friends to sign up for GameFAQs. Let's become the #1 community for gaming again!

Reward: One internet thumbs-up!!!

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I just feel like season 2 over-explained personally. I, personally, don't like when fantasy over-explains mythical origins. I've always believed in less is more, especially when the more is more results in things that felt more neutral really ending up being good vs evil.

The premise is still solid, and as I said, I just hope Raava is barely mentioned, and then I'm good with it from that point on. Still haven't gotten around to watching season 3, was about to now, but I'm just too tired, unfortunately!

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Most of the people who aren't vaccinated at this point are like the lady I heard on the radio calling it a "so called vaccine" and going on about how they know so many people in the hospital because of it.

They also say they aren't going to support businesses in mask mandate counties for following these mandates.


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People who always act like short-term relief can't help are just trying to sound smart.

It's okay to help people now and in the future you know.

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So... when are the democrats going to actually help the middle class?


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You think gen z'ers are disgusted by the millennials infiltrating tiktok?

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Air bump.

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I'm still waiting for Mushroom Kingdom Warriors.

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Bro, people defending this remind me of my time playing Dark Orbit. I never paid for anything, and god damn, that was the most miserable amount of wasted hours that I ever spent. I could grind for soooo long, and some kid with their mom's credit card could waste me an hour after they logged on for the first time, lol.

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MabusIncarnate posted...

Arrival?

Maybe..or maybe bvs!!!

Nah, it's Arrival

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Yo waddup Amy Adams.

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You stole my wife. I would like her back please.

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Cemith posted...

I once heard that re-writing some segments after having already written them, making an active effort to cut the fluff would probably make for a more engaging finale

Probably true. Of course, the thing with fluff is you have to be careful with what you cut out. Sometimes, too many things get cut, and people complain of rushed endings.

Fluff has always been a weakness of mine in particular, as I'll add a lot of things and feel they are important to the overall message of the story.

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Irony posted...

Ah the ol Attack on Titan route

I mean, finales are hard, I will admit! Finales are what I think about the most when I'm writing a story, but when you actually get there, you want to make sure it's not dragging on, but also does its job of giving the audience (even if the audience is just yourself) a sense of closure.

It's just a constant question of "Did I do enough? Did I do too much?"

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and it's like I completely gave up at the end, oops.

Basically, part of the issue is that I wanted the finale of the arc to be a "3-parter" but it's becoming clear that I either have to find things to eliminate or make it into more parts. I refuse to do the latter, though, because I find overly-long finales can just drag things on way too much and aren't as effective as short and sweet finishes.

I'm just going to finish it and move on. I can always rewrite it when the entire story is finished, but trying to make it better now will only demotivate me in the short-run. As long as I get the general idea of what the conflict is and how it resolves, then I should be able to fix it later I hope.

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dj1200 posted...

pics?

Here's a picture.


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MabusIncarnate posted...

Banquet is peak level game

Alright, I'll be walking to Target tomorrow.

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MabusIncarnate posted...

Frozen food section of the grocery store, hold like 10 frozen dinners in your arms and look pathetic until one offers to cook you dinner. Then you are in.

Do they have to be a specific brand?

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BloodMoon7 posted...

Don't worry, you're free now. Go after lonely milfs.

It would be nice to go for younger women for once I suppose.

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It's clear he's better for her but you can't imagine what I'm going through.

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Shipping is life's greatest form of entertainment.

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I kinda liked pro-bending myself. I get why some would find it pointless, but it was pretty fun.

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Yep. Way way too much time

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I'd let her knock me out

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MorganTJ posted...

I could see Aang eventually being able to beat Katara in waterbending, especially since Katara was still a relatively new bender, despite being a master. I don't see Aang being able to beat Toph's eartbending, since it's more than a martial art to her, and Aang's disciplines are spread thinner than being able to just focus on earthbending. Aang could definitely take Zuko as well. I never saw Zuko as a particularly gifted firebender - he was always a better ninja/swordsman than a bender, though. Zuko canonically trained with Piendao to a high level of proficiency before his exile, and at the beginning of this series Iroh was still trying to keep him on learning the firebending basics.

Yeah, I felt bad for Zuko, but that's why I didn't include him, lol. He's definitely above-average, but it was never about his strength anyways I guess, lol. I mean, that was kinda the point that he wasn't that powerful, at least compared to his father and sister. If Aang had to pick any, I'd have my money on him beating Zuko in an Agni Kai before the other two. You do got a point about his swordsmanship, though. I sometimes overlook that since I think of him as a fire-bender first, but he won quite a few fights with those blades of his.

If there's one thing about Toph, it's that she literally immersed herself with the original earth-benders as her foundation to it all, so that definitely helps her out.

Also, I forgot, but since Korra establishes that Katara settled down to be a master healer, I suppose her fighting skills diminished at some point after the series finale of TLA.

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MorganTJ posted...

For what it's worth, I never got the idea that Aang had actually mastered all four elements by the series' end. He obviously mastered air and definitely water, but he hadn't been doing firebending for that long, and I believe Toph remarks at one point that his earthbending could still use some work later in the series. I thought that was part of the reason why they were originally going to wait out Sozin's Comet and confront the Firelord when Aang was actually prepared. I'm sure to the average layperson in-universe he would be considered a master, but not to the extent of previous Avatars that trained with the best benders in the world for years and years.

But yeah, definitely stick around for Book 3.

That's fair and true. Although, with earth, he did seem to get the seismic sight down in the end, so that's really impressive. But yeah, far from a master, and probably far from how strong he was by the time he was Korra's age.

In theory, wouldn't the Avatar be able to beat their teacher in their respective element by the time they are finished? We saw Roku able to beat his water-bending teacher in a fight and his earth-bending teacher in a race. Forget if he bested his air-bending teacher(s), but still, I assume he would have been rather impressive there too. I wasn't under the impression that Aang could beat Toph in a straight-up Earth-bending battle except if he were to use the Avatar state of course. I also don't remember him being as versatile as Katara was with water (did he even really use ice at all in the series), so I don't think he'd beat her either honestly. I mean, Katara and Toph were prodigies with blood bending and metal bending respectively but still.

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pegusus123456 posted...

Fucking agreed. It's one of the complaints I have absolutely never understood. Aang's much closer to a Mary Sue than she is and he isn't one. Korra isn't even the closest thing to a Mary Sue in her own show.

It just has to do with the time-scale of the shows probably. With Korra, we see she knows 3 of the 4 right when we see her, but then we don't see how long it takes for her to truly be good at them. Then, it only takes one season for her to finally "complete" her training (not counting the spiritual training, and actually mastering air of course). Still, she's like 18 by the time she even learns air I'm pretty sure, and probably much older before she masters it.

Aang, on the other hand, took 3 seasons to do it, but that was all jampacked in less than a year in the story's time.

Like, when it came to earth-bending, Aang's greatest struggle, it took him a single episode to start making progress. Whereas with Korra, as mentioned, it took her the entire first season to start being able to do air! Let's not forget, Aang was the youngest air-bending master and only 12 when he did all of this. I love Aang, and think the Avatar should be powerful, so I don't mind this at all. It kinda is the point that the Avatar is powerful! It feels like Korra is not that, lol.

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Master Kazuya posted...

Wan is only good cause most of Korra sucks. As a random ass sideplot, it's better than whatever S2 was doing.

Now that you've finished season 1, I feel like I can talk about Amon. I thought he was one of the coolest villains ever and his role was a PERFECT fusion of TLA lore with modern age LOK political tension. It addressed the question that s1 Legend of Korra introduced, do we need the Avatar, really?

It seemed entirely plausible that a non bender would see equality as a righteous political cause and do so by removing all bending, developing a secret technique to remove bending, having a following, and actually having a point. Who is this guy? The fact that he's an older guy, so skilled, and clearly has some sort of resentment means maybe he's linked to TLA in some abstract way but grew into his own character.

And what was he?....Just a fucking bloodbender political narc generic bad guy. It was such a fucking letdown, especially the fact that he was a bender at the end of the day and had dumb ulterior motives.

He was the only reason I kept watching S1. I felt like Mako and Bolin started off strong but eventually degraded into 1 dimensional characters. Bolin was the Sokka wannabe but he was ONLY the doofus and comic relief and not any of the other things Sokka was in addition to that role. Mako went from independent fighter taking care of his bro semi-Zuko to "hmm do I wanna fuck Korra or Asami".

Yeah, I'd have to agree there. Ty Lee established chi blocking in the original, so yeah, people developing this technique would make sense over time. Also, I still stand by blood bending being something that can be done outside of the full moon being something that devalues it too.

I do think the murder-suicide was a pretty cool move though for the end of the season. I think season 1 was overall okay, and Amon was alright when it was said and done. If season 1 was it, though, it would have been a little strange as an ending, but I still think it was decent.


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Oh yeah, with all that, I forgot to share one more gripe I had.

Maybe it changes from this point on, but I'm absolutely baffled that people call Korra a Mary Sue. She loses sooooo much that I honestly have gotten annoyed at this point. Aang actually was a pretty big winner for the most part where it was actually shocking the times he flat out loses (end of season 2 and the Day of the Black Sun). Shoot, you know the early episode on Kyoshi Island where it feels like Aang will have to accept his defeat and let Kyoshi Island burn to the ground in order to continue fighting another day? If this was Korra, that'd be the end of it, I'm sure, but he actually was able to save the island at the last second.

Even their Avatar state, it felt like GG when Aang was in his, whereas with Korra, it feels very minimal in terms of an upgrade (with the exception of her trapping Vaatu in the elemental ball before she was interrupted). Aang lost against Azula, but that was more of a sneak-attack and if he was all ready, he would have wiped the floor with her.

In LoK, it feels like Korra has to lose in order for the plot to advance, which I wish she wouldn't have to lose so much actually. Even in the finales, she had to get bailed out by others, which is a stark contrast to Aang. I mean, perhaps that's the point, part of the show's point is to express the difference between her and Aang, but still! I guess, I just don't see how you can call her a Mary Sue unless you think her being able to move a rock a foot up in the very beginning to be the definition of a Mary Sue.

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I have finally completed season 2 of LoK and... I kinda really hated it. I really tried to have an open mind and like it, but I honestly can say without a doubt that I had a lot of problems with it. The big thing that happens, that Korra loses her connection to the past Avatars was something I already knew and was preparing for, but I still ended up really hating that too. Believe it or not, that wasn't what I hated the most, though.

I really do think Raava and Vaatu were the worst decision the showrunners came up with in all of Avatar. I kinda already said my piece even before they were officially revealed after I finished 6, but it basically applies to that but tenfold. I always liked the idea that the Avatar was the spirit of the world, here to create balance in the world. I mean, it possesses the ability to bend the natural elements of the world, so it only made sense to me that would be the case.

To find out, the Avatar literally is just the spirit of "good" is just really unsatisfying. I know Avatar takes a lot from Eastern Philosophy and thought, but they turned what I thought was a unique concept and made it into a generic spirit realm to me. It really felt like I was watching a generic anime about evil spirits and I have to agree that Vaatu feels very out of place in the Avatar world. I see what an earlier posted mentioned about LoK feeling more "black and white" compared to the original series with its villains even though this show was supposed to be the more mature show.

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind a pure evil villain at times, but usually I like when they are surrounded by a great ensemble of villains that the pure evil develops. LIke, Ozai was pretty generic evil, but I could see how he created all the more developed villains. Speaking of Ozai, I didn't know it was possible to create a more 1-dimensional villain than him, but Unalaq and Vaatu both take the cake there. I guess if I accept Vaatu as the embodiment of evil, that makes sense, but I can't believe how underwhelming of a villain Unalaq is himself. If Ozai was a villain that believed in Sozin's philosophy of showing the world the superiority of the fire nation, Unalaq literally is just a villain that I'm constantly waiting for him to truly explain his motives but falls short. He mentioned that Wan was wrong to close the spirit world, but honestly, it felt half-baked, and like he was going to show the positives of it, but it never came to be. I suppose season 3 might support his goal, but considering this is more of an anthology of different stories due to the nature of the show at the time, I really feel like each season should be able to stand on its own.

And the final fight, jeez, if each season might have been the last due to potential cancelation, this would have been a god-awful series finale in all regards. The story already I have talked about why I hated it, along with the villain, but that final fight, it's like, how is this the team that gave us the Ozai/Aang and Final Agni Kai battle? A show based around bending, and we get a poorly-made kaiju wannabe battle. Like, this is what the god of darkness brings to the table? The Final battle between Aang and Ozai was a great showcase of all the elements, and it felt like what you would think an Avatar finale would be. Even if you hated the deus ex machina or thought Ozai was generic, I think the battle itself stood up to the premise of a show about element-benders. Just again, knowing this could have been the series finale, it honestly leaves me with an empty pit knowing they thought this was the perfect conclusion to the Avatar saga.

Finally, the Avatar genocide we saw, as I said, I did hate it. Reincarnation is a thing brought up in many different stories, but I believed Avatar had a very unique use of it. I thought it was great that, as an Avatar, you would not only reincarnate in this specific cycle, but that you could talk to your past lives for guidance or more. It is the strangest thing to me, that some people think this is a forward-making move and I've seen others say this was the best move that LoK could make. This was a huge characteristic of the Avatar itself and one of the better parts I do say, and getting rid of it feels anything but. Avatar can be a power-fantasy story, but the reincarnation aspects of the Avatar makes it feel like it's more than that, and that the Avatar is a living breathing growing number of spirits in one.

Now, the reason I don't think that is the worst part of this season is that, I'm aware this is permanent within the show, but that doesn't mean it can't be reversed in another time. A future show could have that Avatar decide that Korra's (the character) failure was never being able to restore this connection and seek to fix it. Simple as that, they could find a way. Raava and Vaatu on the other hand... you can't get rid of that and how they influenced the spirit world and the Avatar itself. What they did there, that is permanent, and to me, it's a shame all future Avatar series have to build off that.

Unlike many, I also didn't really like the Wan storyline tbh. In my humble opinion, as I said in the OP, I am a firm believer in less is more for mythical things. While I said I liked the idea of the Avatar being the spirit of the world, I would rather, other than small little tidbits of lore that aren't really that deeply explored, not have it explained at all. I feel like season 2 of LoK really ruined a lot of the magic of the show, which is ironic considering this is the most we have seen of the spirit world in the shows thus far.

I was always under the impression that people said the love triangle bogged this season down, but I actually did not see that at all, so maybe I'm mistaken. Still, this was the kinda season that makes me really not want to watch the show anymore, but supposedly, season 3 is the gem that makes season 2 worth enduring, so I'll continue on. I just hope to never hear of Raavas or Vaatus again, yeesh.

Sorry for the long post, I just couldn't stop typing, lol.

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Strider102 posted...

Nah, the aliens brought us here.

See on our original planet we polluted and caused so much damage to it it was inhabitable. The aliens gave us another chance, hoping we learned something from the experience.

In fact, the aliens redirected the asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs. They tried a trial run, but the dinosaurs ate the volunteers.

So, after the asteroid impacted the Earth the aliens realized it'd be awhile before we could inhabit it. So they divided all of us and put us on multiple different planets in different galaxies. Then returned later to discover that there was an ice age. Not wanting to make another trip they just dumped us off and left us to our own devices.

That leaves only one question. How are our fellow brothers and sisters faring throughout the cosmos.

Bro, you should expand this into a story.

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Cremia

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Kobe Bryant posted...

I agree. I had to cut down a tree the other day and this guy in his 20s started tearing up and said "it broke his heart" that I had to cut down the tree

That was me bro.

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